Twins Sign Jamey Carroll

The Twins have signed Jamey Carroll to a two-year deal to be their everyday shortstop.  The team announced the deal today.  Carroll's contract will guarantee him $6.75MM and includes a $2MM mutual option for 2014. The option vests if Carroll makes 401 plate appearances in 2013, though he can choose to turn it down.  SI's Jon Heyman has further contract details. The Millenium Sports Management client drew interest from multiple teams this offseason before signing with the Twins, who are operating under interim GM Terry Ryan.

Carroll

The 37-year-old infielder played shortstop and second base for the Dodgers in 2011, posting a .290/.359/.347 line in 510 plate appearances. He hasn't posted an on-base percentage below .355 in any of the past four seasons and he has a career mark of .356 after a decade in the Major Leagues. Carroll, who also has experience at third base and in the outfield, stole ten bases without getting caught this past season. He is not a ranked free agent and won't cost his new team a draft pick.

Carroll spoke with MLBTR's Tim Dierkes in June and you can check out the interview here.

ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reported the deal, with Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, SI's Jon Heyman, La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports adding details.  Photo courtesy of Icon SMI.


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233 Comments on "Twins Sign Jamey Carroll"


3 years 8 months ago

This puts them over the top clearly..

3 years 8 months ago

Ya. If only the mariners had signed him. World Series!

3 years 8 months ago

Carroll = Counsell without the ring.

Silence
3 years 8 months ago

Congrats Minnesota, you made Philly look smart compared to you.

G20pork
3 years 8 months ago

Nailed it!

3 years 8 months ago

Giving a multi-year contract to a 38-year old with no power

Clearly, this solves the Twins offensive problems

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
3 years 8 months ago

Does it matter if you have power and you play in Target Field?

3 years 8 months ago

It matters to Joe Mauer

Carroll is just another “scrappy” yes men Gardenhire can throw out there.

Yawn

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t see what Mauer has to do with this.

But if Carroll has an OBP similar to the last 4 years, you are correct.  He will help with the Twins offensive problems.

mypoorbuccos
3 years 8 months ago

While I agree COMPLETELY with the underlying message of your post, this might be a scrappy MI who can actually GET ON BASE now and then.

That said, I’m not too keen on him being the everyday SS. The infield D stays weak, the hitting gets slightly better. But 7 mil, guh

leachim2
3 years 8 months ago

you take off the s you get crappy

3 years 8 months ago

do you like your grapes sour??

marlinsfan210
3 years 8 months ago

like the twins have ever had a power shortstop in the last 5 years. hes better than Punto or Everett and he gets on base alot

Guest
3 years 8 months ago

At least they paid him $4m too much…

3 years 8 months ago

Cool.

55saveslives
3 years 8 months ago

What does theis mean for Nishioka?

3 years 8 months ago

Backup infielder, Bench player, or traded/released. Or they can just send him to the minor leagues. I just don’t want to see him starting.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Was he (Nishioka) really that bad?  Sure his numbers weren’t good in the end, but the broken fibula and transition to the U.S. shouldn’t affect him this year.  I doubt he’ll be a star, but he at least deserves a chance still.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

He looked like he’d never played baseball in his life, especially defensively

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Fair enough, I’ll defer to you since you probably watched more Twins games than I did and UZR isn’t reliable enough for such a small sample size.

Though from the games I watched, Casilla looked lost, as well.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, Casilla wasn’t great either except for a stretch of games (can’t remember how long). Just imagine Casilla being about three times worse than he was, because that would equal how bad Nishioka was.

Bryz
3 years 8 months ago

Casilla’s WAR last year was 1.4, while Nishioka’s was -1.4. ‘Nuff said.

Also, twins33 is right, Nishioka looked like he had never played baseball before. If anyone looked lost, it was him.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Fair enough, I’ll defer to you since you probably watched more Twins games than I did and UZR isn’t reliable enough for such a small sample size.

Though from the games I watched, Casilla looked lost, as well.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

He looked like he’d never played baseball in his life, especially defensively

3 years 8 months ago

He was a poor defender, and he looked lost when he was as hitting. Not exactly the next Ichiro.

Bernaldo
3 years 8 months ago

Yes, he really was that bad!  Can’t bunt, can’t drive the ball, no power and excels only at hitting 2-hoppers to the SS or 2B – when he makes contact at all.  Defensively: can’t backhand balls, limited range because he has a painfully slow first step and a mediocre arm.  The broken leg healed just fine by August but he was dreadful.  Maybe a couple of years at AAA would help but right now, he isn’t close to being an MLB player.

Bernaldo
3 years 8 months ago

Yes, he really was that bad!  Can’t bunt, can’t drive the ball, no power and excels only at hitting 2-hoppers to the SS or 2B – when he makes contact at all.  Defensively: can’t backhand balls, limited range because he has a painfully slow first step and a mediocre arm.  The broken leg healed just fine by August but he was dreadful.  Maybe a couple of years at AAA would help but right now, he isn’t close to being an MLB player.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Backup/competing for a spot…

I wish he was just gone completely

3 years 8 months ago

Personally I hope it means a trip to Rochester.

Keep Hughes on the big league roster.

3 years 8 months ago

I agree. Hughes is the better player, and some team will take a chance on him if he is sent through waivers. 

3 years 8 months ago

Personally I hope it means a trip to Rochester.

Keep Hughes on the big league roster.

CommissionerBart
3 years 8 months ago

What does this mean for Nishioka, you ask?

Nishioka will be a middle infield backup who plays infrequntly but will have regular daily responsiblities for the newly insituted post-game clubhouse sushi buffet

Joey E
3 years 8 months ago

twins fans will love Jamey Carroll. I know I loved him as a Dodger. peace Jamey

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

No doubt. I was not happy about the Dodgers signing him originally, but he grows on you quickly. He’s awesome.

3 years 8 months ago

Solid Sign.

monkeydung
3 years 8 months ago

going to miss him on the doyers, but wouldn’t want him as an everyday SS – especially on a team that could be playoff caliber team. interesting signing by the twins.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Definitely not a playoff caliber team…

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Your talking about the Twins right? Please. I want to believe.

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Haha, yes, I was

3 years 8 months ago

I don’t know. For some reason this whole thing reminds me of when they signed Mike Lamb.

3 years 8 months ago

why?? Lamb had no track record of ML success, Carroll does.  This isn’t anything like that.

3 years 8 months ago

Its a little like that. The Twins are basically signing a veteran who never really was an everyday player to be an everyday player. Just like Lamb was when he was in Houston.

Its not a bad thing for now because it takes care of one of the Twins problems for the time being at a decent price. But will we be saying the same thing during the 2012 season?

3 years 8 months ago

No it’s not. Lamb was terrible in all facets – bad D and shaky with the bat.  He was only good at hitting right handers.  Just compare the amount of AB’s each player had before being signed.  Carroll had 500 at bats last year and hit .290.  That’s hardly a fill in player.  At 2/7 how can you possibly say this is a bad sign? Bad comparison, do some research. 

3 years 8 months ago

I get the sense that you are not reading my comments fully.

First off, its not a bad sign for now. It just has the POTENTIAL to end up like the Mike Lamb signing. Remember, a lot of people liked the Lamb signing at first, but he just could not adjust and ultimately failed.

Jamey Caroll can only be considered an everyday player in two seasons of his career. I doubt that he will be able to handle being an everyday shortstop. He does have one thing going for him that Lamb didn’t though. He has experience in the AL Central. But it ultimately would not surprise me if they turn to Casilla or Plouffe later in the season because Carroll couldn’t cut it.

3 years 8 months ago

I can read, I’m telling you the comparison is not apt. 

3 years 8 months ago

I can read, I’m telling you the comparison is not apt. 

3 years 8 months ago

To me Jamey Carroll is a better hitting Nick Punto type player.  If Nick Punto hit like Jamey Carroll he would have started for the Twins – agree?  I think the Twins are just trying to find a stabilizing infield veteren presence and Jamey Carroll is that to a T.  If Nishioka and Casilla can put together a full year of solid steady production then Carroll can easily spell almost anyone on any given day as a super utility role a la Nick Punto.  To immediately compare him to one of the worst most regrettable reach signs in Mike Lamb is simply not fair – they aren’t the same type of player.  I get the whole, utility into a starter thing but do they really compare in any other way?? No.  So that said, bad comparison – Jamey Carroll will be just fine for the Twins. 

3 years 8 months ago

To me Jamey Carroll is a better hitting Nick Punto type player.  If Nick Punto hit like Jamey Carroll he would have started for the Twins – agree?  I think the Twins are just trying to find a stabilizing infield veteren presence and Jamey Carroll is that to a T.  If Nishioka and Casilla can put together a full year of solid steady production then Carroll can easily spell almost anyone on any given day as a super utility role a la Nick Punto.  To immediately compare him to one of the worst most regrettable reach signs in Mike Lamb is simply not fair – they aren’t the same type of player.  I get the whole, utility into a starter thing but do they really compare in any other way?? No.  So that said, bad comparison – Jamey Carroll will be just fine for the Twins. 

3 years 8 months ago

i agree, it did remind me of the lamb signing right away.

3 years 8 months ago

No it’s not. Lamb was terrible in all facets – bad D and shaky with the bat.  He was only good at hitting right handers.  Just compare the amount of AB’s each player had before being signed.  Carroll had 500 at bats last year and hit .290.  That’s hardly a fill in player.  At 2/7 how can you possibly say this is a bad sign? Bad comparison, do some research. 

HerbertAnchovy
3 years 8 months ago

Carroll isn’t an everyday player. It seems like after last season, with a move like this, The Twins are already giving up.

3 years 8 months ago

you should give up commenting. 

HerbertAnchovy
3 years 8 months ago

You should give up your feeble attempt at sarcasm and humour.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 8 months ago

He played in 146 games for LA last year. That’s pretty darn near every day. He’s already proved that he can be a front line player, even at his age, but I can see why the Dodgers weren’t going to get him back if the Twins wanted him for a starting role.

daveineg
3 years 8 months ago

You are correct.  His 146 games played last year is deceiving.  He started 111.  In fact he’s never started more than 111 in one season.   To think he’s suddenly at 38 going to be physically able to play everyday and still be as productive is wishful thinking on the Twins part.

They better have somebody else ready to start 50 or 60 games.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
3 years 8 months ago

Over 500 PAs. Very deceiving, because half of them were actually his twin brother, Lewis.

sherrilltradedooverexperience
3 years 8 months ago

he was signed as a backup on a team that had the oft injured rafael furcal…so he played a lot because of injuries to furcal (ss) and also uribe (2b).  it’s not like he was unable to play for stretches and needed rest.

With no Casey Blake at third base it would seem the dodgers could have re-signed him and give him almost full time play like he got from the injuries–i guess it depends on whether one sees a younger mark ellis for a few million more as an upgrade over an aging carroll…which is definitely debatable.

3 years 8 months ago

Typical Tigers fan.

Get one playoff appearance in 5 years and you think you run the division for good.

Well the Sox fans thought the same thing after 05 and look what happened there.

3 years 8 months ago

Sorry that was meant for Conebone.

Lousy Disqus.

3 years 8 months ago

Difference between the Twins and the White Sox, Tigers and Indians is that Minnesota’s only objective is to win the division.

Thus, why they have continued to flame out in the postseason year after year after year

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
3 years 8 months ago

Instead of flaming out in the playoffs once every 5 years, like Detroit?  Your rebuttal was very solid.  

3 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t call winning one playoff round(at least) “flaming out”

“Flaming Out” would be the Twins postseason record since 2003.

3 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t call winning one playoff round(at least) “flaming out”

“Flaming Out” would be the Twins postseason record since 2003.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Admittedly, the Twins have had more success over the last 10 years than the Tigers.

Twins recent playoff history:
2002: Defeated A’s first round (3-2), lost to A’s second round (1-4)
2003: First round loss to Yankees (1-3)
2004: First round loss to Yankees (1-3)
2006: First round sweep by the A’s (0-3)
2009: First round sweep by Yankees (0-3)
2010: First round sweep by Yankees (0-3)

Tigers lost to the Cardinals in the World Series in ’06 and lost in the ALCS in ’11.  I commend the Twins for repeatedly winning the division all those years, but saying the Tigers “flamed out” in the playoffs is laughable.

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
3 years 8 months ago

You are correct.  “Flamed Out” is a bit over dramatic.  And I actually respect the Tigers, but I don’t think Tigers fans have that much to brag about either.  

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

No team in the AL Central has much to brag about.  It’s been a competitive, cyclical division since ’98, except for the Royals.

NordeastMPLSTwinsFan
3 years 8 months ago

You are correct.  “Flamed Out” is a bit over dramatic.  And I actually respect the Tigers, but I don’t think Tigers fans have that much to brag about either.  

3 years 8 months ago

So you’re saying the Twins both defeated and lost to the Oakland A’s in 2002 playoffs? Interesting trick.  Joe Buck would have gotten this right. 

3 years 8 months ago

Yeah because as a Tigers fan, you know all too well what another team’s objective is.

And I am sure you will look on that beating by the Rangers fondly when the Tigers next make the playoffs in 2016.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Tough words for a team that finished 32 games back.

3 years 8 months ago

No, tough words for a team that has won 6 division titles in ten years.

If you want to talk about teams with bad finishes, lets talk about the 2003 Tigers, shall we? 47 games. Wow.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

The Tigers were horrible in 2003, and just about every year for the 15 years prior to that.

I said above that the Twins have been a much better team recently and have shown the ability to have continued success.  I hope the Tigers can have 6 division titles in 10 years.  But Jelly bean makes no sense.  No Tigers fan thinks we own the division.  I don’t know where that claim came from.

mmwatkin
3 years 8 months ago

Twins fan talking smack about the Tigers is absolutely hilarious. The Tigers could sign zero Free Agents this offseason and still have a team that will finish 20 games better than the Twinkies in 2012. 

3 years 8 months ago

God help you if something happens to Verlander though. Then your first place Tigers probably become third place Tigers.

How does it feel knowing it only cost $115 Mil per year to erase the stench of 2003?

mmwatkin
3 years 8 months ago

Same could be said for any team if you take away their best player. 

Also, I enjoyed having the third highest opening day payroll in the division and winning it by 15 games. Also helps when you are able to shed non-factor players like Ordonez and Guillen while re-investing that money in keeping guys like Verlander.

3 years 8 months ago

You’re right same could be said about any team losing their best player.

Sort of like how you could say the same for the Twins losing Joe Mauer for most of a season, like last season, right?

mmwatkin
3 years 8 months ago

Mauer was out half of the season. Also, I wasn’t aware he also pitched. 

3 years 8 months ago

I believe your quote was “best player” not “best pitcher”.

And last I checked, not every team’s best player is a starting pitcher.

Now apologize for your stupidity.

mmwatkin
3 years 8 months ago

My point was that the Twins had the 2nd worst pitching staff in all of MLB. To say they sucked because Mauer was out half of the season is absurd. Their problems go way beyond him

3 years 8 months ago

I believe your quote was “best player” not “best pitcher”.

And last I checked, not every team’s best player is a starting pitcher.

Now apologize for your stupidity.

IHateJoeBuck
3 years 8 months ago

Many Tigers players exceeded expectations last year, while the Twins and White Sox fell off the map.  I expect all three teams to regress toward the mean and we’ll see another competitive 3 team race like 2008-2010.

Not sure what you mean though by $115M…

mmwatkin
3 years 8 months ago

Twins fan talking smack about the Tigers is absolutely hilarious. The Tigers could sign zero Free Agents this offseason and still have a team that will finish 20 games better than the Twinkies in 2012. 

TheHotCorner
3 years 8 months ago

It’s a nice signing (depending on terms of the contract).  The Twins had no middle infield this last year so this will help.  Gives them a little time to determine the long term fix. 

3 years 8 months ago

Wish the Jays got him, good for the Twins

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

I like the sign, but hate the price.

3 years 8 months ago

cuz you’d like it to be more money then??

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Should be less. Maybe 5 million tops.

3 years 8 months ago

wrong. 

twins33
3 years 8 months ago

Such a strong, fact based answer you gave there….

He’s 38, he’s going to decline eventually.  Carroll has made 11 million in his entire career and we just added 7 more to that.  Plus, he’s a much better second baseman than he is a SS.  Upgrade for sure, in either spot, but that’s how sad the Twins have become. 

Nothing he has done has said that he should earn over half of what he has already made in his entire career…in two years.  Not smart.

3 years 8 months ago

wrong again. 

3 years 8 months ago

cuz you’d like it to be more money then??

craigkimbrelfan
3 years 8 months ago

2 yrs 7 is too high.

3 years 8 months ago

And 0-2….dang I suck!

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Me too! *High-five

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Me too! *High-five

CAD_Monkey
3 years 8 months ago

0-3 when you take into account Ryan Madson probably isn’t going back to Philly.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Well that’s okay, I picked Madson to the Red Sox. Hopefully Cherrington doesn’t see Bard as a legitimate closing option and just swaps closers with the Phil’s. But now that I think about it, I don’t really see that happening.

Quacktastic_Duck
3 years 8 months ago

Multi-year deal and a good fit for a quality player. Well done by his agent. If a top shortstop falls in their lap within the next two years, he makes an excellent utility player. Nice work.

3 years 8 months ago

Jose Reyes will fall into their lap — waiting —

3 years 8 months ago

reyes? bwahahahaha. sorry but the twins will not get a big name player on that team until mauer’s contract is up. or mauer decides to call it quits. they messed up signing him to that big contract.

3 years 8 months ago

there it is, found someone who doesn’t get sarcasm.

stroh
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t get it .  The guy is a utility player who is 37 years old.   Do the Twins really think this is going to make a difference?   I would have thought after last year they would be looking to fill holes with players with a future, not journeymen.

Pavilionbum
3 years 8 months ago

He’s a solid stopgap in the infield, but a two year deal at the price is just too much.

nick1538
3 years 8 months ago

I thought the same thing about 2 years for Pavano, but he did what was expected of him in 2011.  He threw 200 innings of quality pitching and should do the same in 2012. 

If Carroll can hold down a .350 OBP and play solid defense it is definitely worth it.  

Pavilionbum
3 years 8 months ago

compared to guys like Bloomquist this is a better use of money, but right now everybody is getting overpaid.

Pavilionbum
3 years 8 months ago

compared to guys like Bloomquist this is a better use of money, but right now everybody is getting overpaid.

nick1538
3 years 8 months ago

I thought the same thing about 2 years for Pavano, but he did what was expected of him in 2011.  He threw 200 innings of quality pitching and should do the same in 2012. 

If Carroll can hold down a .350 OBP and play solid defense it is definitely worth it.  

stroh
3 years 8 months ago

Agree.   1 year at about $2.5M may have been right.   Also, they could have gone after someone younger like Clint Barmes or Ronny Cedeno who have much more range as shortstops as a stopgap.

3 years 8 months ago

You can even add Ramon Santiago to that mix.

This is not a slap at Carroll but at his stage, he is better suited for 2B.

3 years 8 months ago

The twins shot them selves in the foot and ruined the team for years with the big contract they gave to mauer. the guy sits on the couch more then he plays, and he has the last laugh because he has 180 million dollars lol.

SunsetStripper
3 years 8 months ago

You should be thankful the Twins didn’t sign Yuniesky Betancourt.

3 years 8 months ago

actually Betancourt has always been aTwins killer would’ve loved to seen him as utility guy for us.

wrestlingcritic
3 years 8 months ago

So it wasn’t any of like 10 teams MLBTR guessed at before they got it? Nice call(s) guys…

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

They weren’t guessing… They were reporting what they heard from journalists, which happened to simply be the teams that weren’t going to get him.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

They weren’t guessing… They were reporting what they heard from journalists, which happened to simply be the teams that weren’t going to get him.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

$7M?!?!?!

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

YES!!!!!

Pavilionbum
3 years 8 months ago

We got a draft pick for losing Barajas but not Carroll?

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Barajas was a Type B??

Pavilionbum
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah. Free draft pick!!!!

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Hell yea! Good thing he signed early. Don’t know if Ned would’ve offered arb. I don’t understand how Carroll wasn’t ranked though. Home Runs and RBI’s must mean even more than I thought, since he doesn’t do anything in those categories.

MannyBeingMVP
3 years 8 months ago

The Dodgers had already hionted that they would not have offered arbitration so that Pirates signing of Barajas was the Dodgers best move of the off-seasion.  Surely better than signing Juan Rivera, I would rather have gambled on one last year with Loney than signed Rivera at a comparable cost.  Carroll will do fine as a starting shortstop, and I would expect him to hit .290-2-30-11.  I would have offered Carroll, three million for the first year and 2.5 million for a second year, so I think they slightly overpaid.  I hope that Jamey Carroll eventually becomes a minor league coach because he has a great attitude and plays 100% every time.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Hell yea! Good thing he signed early. Don’t know if Ned would’ve offered arb. I don’t understand how Carroll wasn’t ranked though. Home Runs and RBI’s must mean even more than I thought, since he doesn’t do anything in those categories.

Gumby65
3 years 8 months ago

Surely these ratings are compiled by the same Mensanomiacs that invented the BCS.

Gumby65
3 years 8 months ago

Surely these ratings are compiled by the same Mensanomiacs that invented the BCS.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
3 years 8 months ago

Barajas was a Type B??