AL East Notes: Yankees, Pineda, Red Sox, Rays

We've already rounded up some Orioles and Red Sox items this morning, but those aren't the only updates out of the AL East. Here are a few more:


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45 Comments on "AL East Notes: Yankees, Pineda, Red Sox, Rays"


Guest
3 years 5 months ago

I’m really looking forward to Pineda in pinstripes. I hope he does well. I’m going to miss Montero a lot, but at least they traded high on him and not for Danks or Gonzalez like some people had suggested.

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TophersReds
3 years 5 months ago

But, since Mat Latos is a product of Petco according to you in “Madson to sign with Reds,” wouldn’t that also make Pineda a product of Safeco?

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist. :P)

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3 years 5 months ago

Blah blah blah, I was wrong. First mistake I’ve ever made in my life. I think Pineda will be a very good pitcher. I sure hope Cashman made the right move. It’s okay, though. We will just sign Montero when he’s 28 after Tex’s deal is up.

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slider32
3 years 5 months ago

Don’t you think that they Yanks have charted every fly ball out at Safeco off of Pineda and projected that to Yankee stadium? All teams are doing this when signing pitchers. The problem is that pitching is the biggest variable in sports, so it is not an easy thing to analayze.

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diesel2410
3 years 5 months ago

I agree that he’s a product of Safeco. I thought it was foolish to trade your best hitting prospect for a pitcher in a hitter’s park. Pineda will struggle…like 4+ ERA

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3 years 5 months ago

15-7, 3.87 ERA, 202 IP, 203 ks.

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diesel2410
3 years 5 months ago

I think it will be around 14-11, 4.08 ERA, 185 IP, 198 Ks. Don’t get me wrong, still a solid line, and he still is very young

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

I’ll take that anyday from a 23 year old pitcher in Yankee Stadium. I’d take that from any pitcher on the Yankees’ staff not named Sabathia, lol.

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

you’re posting these numbers and saying that he would not improve. he’s only what? 22-23 yrs old? what makes you think that every pitcher that used to play in safeco or petco arent good enough? really? so what you’re saying is that if you’re a mariner pitcher then ou’re no good enough to play in any other team? please

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diesel2410
3 years 5 months ago

Woah woah woah, where did I say he wouldn’t improve? My point is that he WILL improve but not in his first year in the AL East. Yankee Stadium is much different than Safeco, as is the AL East

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Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 5 months ago

Pineda probably won’t improve unless/until he learns a 3rd above-average pitch. Two-pitch SP don’t do well for very long, i.e. Burnett (not to compare).

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JacobyWanKenobi
3 years 5 months ago

Burnett has like 6 pitches, they just all look the same on their way to the backstop.

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MB923
3 years 5 months ago

Burnett has more than 2 pitches

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diesel2410
3 years 5 months ago

Woah woah woah, where did I say he wouldn’t improve? My point is that he WILL improve but not in his first year in the AL East. Yankee Stadium is much different than Safeco, as is the AL East

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suhiscrazierthanyou
3 years 5 months ago

How about talking about his numbers vs. the AL East?

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MB923
3 years 5 months ago

How about talking small sample size

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SteelchucK
3 years 5 months ago

Pineda gonna be tough

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slider32
3 years 5 months ago

Let’s by real hear, all Yankee pitchers have to do is pitch to a 4.00 ERA and they will win, with there pen you give up 3 runs in 5 innings you win most of the time.

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YanksFanSince78
3 years 5 months ago

yeah but we expect more than someone who keeps us in the game. 

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

Cashman, the deal is done so you can stop hyping up Montero. Even if Montero becomes a star and Pineda doesn’t become the eventual #1 starter, I still don’t think it’s a loss for NYY. Pineda comes into a hitter’s ball park, Montero isn’t a lefty (which the park favors), and you already have somewhat young catcher (Russell Martin) that hits well and most importantly, is great with the pitchers. If you didn’t have Russell Martin and slotted Montero into the catcher’s role, you’d be risking your pitching on a young catcher with defensive liabilities. And if you have Montero in the DH role with Martin as C, you’d be handcuffing your team by not having a roster spot for your aging financial burdens (A-Rod, Jeter). 

You can’t acquire arms like Pineda and you’re going to pay more for free agent pitchers and get less.

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

What’s with all the hate on Jeter still? My God. He can still hit. He hit .300 last year. I guess stars can’t have bad years. Only time will tell who the deal works for.

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GoAwayNow
3 years 5 months ago

I think the knock was on his defense.

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

“Montero isn’t a lefty (which the park favors)”

Montero (like A-Rod) drives the ball to right center and that’s why it doesn’t matter that he’s a righty in Yankee Stadium.

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

Good point, but his power will be easier to find than Pineda’s performance. 

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jjs91
3 years 5 months ago

Its not hype its the truth

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

So, what is the clearer indication of a player’s future: Montero’s 61 MLB ABs in 2011 (.328/.406/.590) or Pineda’s 171 IP in 2011 to the tune of 3.74 ERA and a K/9 of 9.1? 

Yankees need a strikeout pitcher in that ballpark. Not only to wow the fans, but to give the best shot of keeping the ball in the park. Pineda’s one of the best young arms that can do that that isn’t named Felix Hernandez. Considering NYY made a strong pitch for Hernandez again this year that supposedly included Montero, Betances, and Banuelos and didn’t land him…”settling” with an underpriced Pineda for Montero and NOT Banuelos or Betances is incredible. No, he’s not King Felx, but if you watched the first third of the 2011 season, Pineda looked better than Hernandez. Let’s just see what this 22-year-old can do with a better offense, a bigger platform, and a year of MLB experience under his belt.

You have more to go off of with Pineda than Montero at the MLB level.

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UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 5 months ago

Considering what Gio, Latos and Jimenez fetched for the previous teams.  Cashman stole Pineda.  Whether he settles in to be a solid #2 remains to be seen but whatever happens being able to acquire a not yet 23 year old with Pineda’s upside for even a very good DH (who let’s be honest has yet to prove himself in the field of battle) pretty much straight up doesn’t come along very often.  Montero will be missed sure, just like I’m sure Pineda will be missed in Seattle.  But the reality is Montero was pigeon holed with the Yankees.  There was/is place for him to play all he was ever going to be was a DH with the Yankees.  This way both players satisfy a need their new teams had.  It doesn’t get much better then that when 2 teams make a trade.

Guest
3 years 5 months ago

I’m really anxious to see how the meeting with Sternberg and Foster is going to go. Would love to have the Rays on this side of the bay, and possibly bring another spring training team to St Pete.