Rangers To Sign Yu Darvish

THURSDAY, 10:41pm: Jeff Wilson of The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has the year-by-year breakdown of Darvish's contract. The right-hander will earn $5.5MM in 2012, $9.5MM in 2013, $10MM annually from 2014-2016, and $11MM in 2017.

WEDNESDAY, 6:41pm: Even if they’d had a relatively quiet offseason, the two-time defending American League Champions could have been a playoff-caliber team in 2012. Yet they spent aggressively on one of the top available arms and became a little scarier in the process. The Rangers have agreed to sign Yu Darvish to a six-year deal in the $60MM range. Agents Don Nomura and Arn Tellem represent the 6'5" 25-year-old and negotiated for bonuses that could be worth another $10MM. 

Darvish can opt out of the contract after the fifth year, Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram tweets. However, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports adds (on Twitter) that Darvish must hit certain "high-end award levels" to be able to opt out of the contract. The deal is worth just $56MM guaranteed, Wilson tweets. Wilson says the deal includes $4MM in bonuses with the potential to reach even more incentives by winning Cy Young Awards. 

GM Jon Daniels liked what he saw when he watched Darvish pitch in June, and the Rangers committed a record-setting amount for the right to negotiate with the right-hander. The Nippon Ham Fighters obtain a $51,703,411 posting fee from the Rangers, who topped the $51.1MM Boston paid for the rights to speak with Daisuke Matsuzaka five years ago.

Darvish posted a 1.44 ERA with 10.7 K/9 and 1.4 BB/9 in 232 innings this past season and he hasn't posted an ERA above 2.00 since 2007. He'll join a Rangers rotation that looks considerably different than it did a year ago. C.J. Wilson is gone, but Neftali Feliz will move to the rotation and Colby LewisDerek HollandMatt HarrisonScott Feldman and Alexi Ogando provide manager Ron Washington with an abundance of alternatives for the rest of the rotation.

The Angels finished ten games behind the Rangers in both 2010 and 2011, but GM Jerry Dipoto has signed Wilson and Albert Pujols, so the Angels are considerably more threatening entering the 2012 campaign.

Prince Fielder may have lost a suitor this afternoon. It's been reported that the Rangers are unlikely to sign both him and Darvish, so agent Scott Boras may turn elsewhere as he looks to find a deal for the 27-year-old free agent. ESPN.com's Jayson Stark tweets that the Rangers feel "less urgency" to sign Fielder, though a deal is still possible.

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first tweeted news of the agreement, Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News tweeted the value of the deal and Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweeted news of the incentives. The Rangers have confirmed the deal.


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425 Comments on "Rangers To Sign Yu Darvish"


Marktown
3 years 7 months ago

Go Rangers.

3 years 7 months ago

Halos fans are very upset that Rangers were 1st in the AL west the past 2 seasons… its funny the comments they leave on here

Marktown
3 years 7 months ago

It’s cause they know they have a 3 year window and a 7 year albatross of a contract with Mr. Pujols. Colby Lewis is the veteran of our rotation followed by nothing but guys under 30. The Angels should be desperate because they know they can’t compete with the greatness of Jon Daniels.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 7 months ago

3 year window?  Because we won’t shed any payroll in the future or be able to sign any more great offensive players with a $3B television contract… right.  Pujols will never prevent us from signing additional talent, and will bring in major dollars with marketing revenue and ticket sales alone.  Get over the contract length argument already, it’s tired, dull and baseless.  Even if he falls off completely in five years and becomes useless in the field, he’s in the land of the DH. 

I guess paying $110M for a guy that’s never thrown an MLB pitch isn’t risky at all though.  And since when does under 30 equal good?  Your rotation has a lot more question marks than the Angels. 

The Rangers are a great team, I’m not delusional.  But I would say things are about even right now as far as chances to win the division go.  Especially if Morales can contribute in a meaningful way.

3 years 7 months ago

The Rangers have not done their homework. I trust you know way more than the Rangers front office. Thank yu for your very helpful information.

3 years 7 months ago

Pujols and CJ are not over paid at all…

3 years 7 months ago

sarcasm?

3 years 7 months ago

CJ signed a very reasonable deal..

Marktown
3 years 7 months ago

C: Napoli/Yorvit > Ianetta/Conger
1b: Pujols > Moreland/Young
2b: Kinsler > Kendrick
SS: Andrus/Aybar is a wash (Aybar may have had the better WAR last year, but I prefer Andrus’s potential)
3b: Beltre > Trumbo
OF: Hamilton/Cruz/Murphy/Gentry > Hunter/Abreu/ Bourjos/Trout/Wells
DH: Young/Morales is a wash (if Morales produces to his ’09 potential, this is an Angels win, but that’s a big question mark based on his fragility)
Angels rotation > Rangers rotation
Rangers bullpen > Angels bullpen

Rangers won the division by ten games last season. Angels haven’t made up ten games on a Rangers team that is better than last year.

Daniel
3 years 7 months ago

The Rangers may be better than last year, but you are forgetting that the Angels are definitely better than last year.

The Angels add Pujols, Wilson, Hawkins, and Ianetta who have 2011 Fangraph WAR of 5.1, 5.9, 0.7, and 3.3.
Morales will also return, and at a modest estimate he adds 1.7 WAR, which is half his 2009 WAR.
The Angels lose Pineiro, Mathis, and Chatwood which add -1.3, 1, and -0.5 WAR based on 2011.
This total change adds up to +15.9.

The Rangers add Nathan and Darvish. I will get back to Darvish, since he is the question mark. Fangraphs fans project Nathan will have 1 WAR, which is fairly reasonable.
They also get full seasons of Uehara and Adams. This could add 0.65 and 0.9 WAR respectively to the team, which is a very generous estimate based on half their 2011 seasons.
The Rangers also lose Oliver, which adds -1.3 WAR from his 2011 season.
This totals to a net change in WAR of +1.25.

Yes I know I missed some other statistically insignificant transactions, and I know WAR is not the greatest stat for pitching. This does provide a reasonable estimate, however, because we are making predictions anyway.

If you subtract the Rangers change in WAR (1.25) and the 2011 GB (10) from the Angels change in WAR (15.9), you wind up with the Angels being better than the Rangers by 4.65 wins before Darvish. If Darvish pitches for 4.65 or better WAR, he would have a better season in 2012 than Lincecum in 2011.

Now, do not get me wrong. I do not think that additions/subtractions in baseball are as simple as WAR. However, I disagree with your and anyone else’s insistence that the numbers show that the Rangers are unquestionably better than the Angels. I think the WAR system is flawed simply because it does not predict a team’s value or outcome (i.e. a lineup, an outfield, an infield, a rotation, a bullpen). There are many more factors that come into play in the team sport of baseball. In fact, adding two scary hitters in Pujols and Morales into the lineup of aggressive but not very intimidating hitters will make everyone’s individual WAR go up.

3 years 7 months ago

Congratulations to both the Rangers and Darvish, hope he lives up to the hype! Should be fun to watch.

chico65
3 years 7 months ago

Yu’ve gone and done it now Nolan!

Terms?

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Maybe the Jays can try and trade for Matt Harrison, the Rangers have so much depth in starting pitching now, I would think one of them in expendable

Marktown
3 years 7 months ago

Who on the Blue Jays do you think would be a good fit in Texas?

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Probably just prospects, I don’t think Texas really needs that much lol, other than a first basemen, but we hardly have one.

3 years 7 months ago

They’ll need some of that money back when Hamilton comes back with an offer on the table at the end of the season.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Which Money? The Darvish money? I am sure that the Billionaires who own the Rangers can afford Hamilton.

coolstorybro222
3 years 7 months ago

or maybe they take their remaining money and get fielder instead?

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Where did I talk about money?

cyberboo
3 years 7 months ago

Not happening.  Harrison would be the sixth starter on the Jays and he is no better than the first five, making a trade for him useless.  The Jays also have four guys with huge upside ready this year or next, making Harrison a liability.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Ummm, what? Other than Romero and Morrow, I would say he is the best, Alvarez might be better in the future, but he is only 21, and needs polishing, Harrison is better than Cecil, and Drabek (unless Drabek gets control).

3 years 7 months ago

Doug Drabek maybe. Definitely not the son.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

If you watched Drabek last year, you can see how lost he was, no confidence, no control, every start was a snow ball effect, getting worse by the inning.

Not saying I would rather have Harrison over Drabek, I would obviously rather Drabek, he has amazing stuff. Just at this point, I would rather have Harrison in my rotation. 

Lunchbox45
3 years 7 months ago

I agree.. however Drabek will be fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation. An uphill battle at that.

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah I’d rather keep Harrison. He’s going to be a good one in Texas. I’d say trade Ogando, but teams may be wary of his lack of experience as a starter do far and I see it being a huge hole in our bullpen if he’s traded. Maybe Feldman?

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

I would love Ogando, even if he doesn’t work out as a starter, I would put his 99 MPH fastball in my bullpen with no problem. 

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Which is the exact reason I’d like to keep Ogando as well. I see him as a possible closer next year of Adams leaves. I know we have Nathan but at his age, I think Nathan would be a better 8th inning guy. Feldman regained a cutter that was better than ever last season, which is the pitch that makes him good, so I could see him being traded to the Jays for some lower (preferably pitching) prospects with high potential.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Not a fan of Feldman, I don’t see him as an upgrade over Cecil really.

3 years 7 months ago

problem with feldman is that hes not remotely interesting as a trade candidate. theres almost no point in the jays acquiring a back end starter. they’re far more likely to fill the rotation internally, and theres probably a good chance that two of mcgowan, cecil, drabek and also hutchinson and mcguire later in the season could out-produce feldman anyways.

NWDC
3 years 7 months ago

Fielder to Nats for 6/$125 with a 3 year player opt out.

Natsfan89
3 years 7 months ago

Nats won’t give him an opt out.

NWDC
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah they will.  Maybe a 4 year opt out.  What’s the big deal — if he’s done so well as to want to opt out, then it was a good signing.  Yeah we lose that upside but you can always renegotiate.  As a Nats fan, I want Prince from his 27-31 years anyway, not his decline.

CommissionerBart
3 years 7 months ago

Fielder to Nats for 5 years guarenteed @ 26.5 annually (subject to weight and fitness clauses), mutual options for following 2 years.  No no-trade clause. No player opt out in 5 guarenteed years.  He seems to be lacking in incentive to be in the very best shape possible so team gamble needs to be limited.

NWDC
3 years 7 months ago

Did Scott Boras write that contract?  26.5m annually plus no-trade plus opt out after 5?  Too rich.  But I like your head on the fitness clauses.

redsx968
3 years 7 months ago

They key word there was “no.” He said NO no-trade clause and NO player opt out. 

NWDC
3 years 7 months ago

So you mean a yes-trade clause?

NWDC
3 years 7 months ago

Did Scott Boras write that contract?  26.5m annually plus no-trade plus opt out after 5?  Too rich.  But I like your head on the fitness clauses.

Wrek305
3 years 7 months ago

Fielder is not going to Yellowstone park and play for the Nats. He’s much better off in Texas or back in Milwaukee on a short term deal.

leachim2
3 years 7 months ago

Rangers fans are all saying thank Yu.

3 years 7 months ago

yu serious?

faceforest
3 years 7 months ago

I take a “I’ll believe it when I see it” attitude to players coming from Japan. I get the feeling this may backfire and end up limiting their ability to resign some of their upcoming FA’s. But if it pans out, congrats to both of them.

nzmrmn
3 years 7 months ago

I think he’s going to get destroyed by AL hitting in that launching pad.

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah I don’t. Like its been said over and over again, the guys has insane fitness, a huge frame, a TON of plus offspeed pitches, he’s a good ground ball and strikeout pitcher, and for the people that think the heat will get to him, if Holland (an Ohio guy) can do it, Darvish can do it.

nzmrmn
3 years 7 months ago

But can he throw the offspeed stuff while gripping an adult sized baseball??

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Have you ever seen this guy? He’s huge. If you really think he’ll have a problem holding a bigger ball, you’re insane. The only thing that might be a problem for him is pitching on shorter rest. But as stated before he’s in great shape and only 25. He will adapt.

3 years 7 months ago

It is not the fact that the baseball is a different size but that the seam’s are different, they are said to be eaiser to grip. Also the mound over there is flat compared to the pitchers mounds over here,also shorter rest and the fact he can’t throw an 80 pitch bullpen session the day before his starts. Oh and the heat yeah that will all just be easy peasy!

blurnandez
3 years 7 months ago

You mean that same sized baseball that he used all of last season? I’m sure he’ll be fine.

PWNdroia
3 years 7 months ago

Kind of like Matsuzaka WAS.

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah I don’t. Like its been said over and over again, the guys has insane fitness, a huge frame, a TON of plus offspeed pitches, he’s a good ground ball and strikeout pitcher, and for the people that think the heat will get to him, if Holland (an Ohio guy) can do it, Darvish can do it.

A_Shoe
3 years 7 months ago

You’re right. Apart from Ichiro and Hideki Matsui, none of them have come close to living up to the huge amount of hype that surrounds them.

legaryd
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think that’s a fair comparison.  Most Japanese stars come here in their late 20’s, early 30’s, or in the case of Dice-K, after they’ve thrown about 1200 innings.

Until I see a few young Japan League stars come to the US for their age 25-28 seasons, the comparison between leagues is really just a lot of speculation.

oz10
3 years 7 months ago

I like the deal but you have a few facts wrong. Darvish has 1268 innings under his belt compared to 1402 for Dice-K when he came over. That is only 134 inning difference or about 2/3 of a season. Dice-k was also 26 when he came over. But that is where it ends. Yu had a full run less ERA and a much better winning percentage. 

legaryd
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think I have any facts wrong, I’m lumping Yu into the pile of used up Japanese stars.  I think Yu will struggle after a year or two also.  Dice-k and Yu may be young, but their arms are all used up by the time they get here.

I believe acquiring Japanese talent is like acquiring talent on the free-agent market.  In that acquiring talent on the free-agent market is usually not worth it.

oz10
3 years 7 months ago

I thought you were saying that comparing Yu to Dice-K was not a fair comapirson based on Dice-k having more innings and being much older. I have reread your post and take back my “you have a few facts wrong” part.

Kurisu Rg
3 years 7 months ago

You were doing great, until you wrote “winning percentage”. Uugh

oz10
3 years 7 months ago

I ususally would not bring this up (I do understand how misleading that stat can be) but the disparity is big enough to where it does matter and combined with his full run lower ERA.

Andy
3 years 7 months ago

Nomo would like a word with you. He was a CY candidate.

Victor Kipp
3 years 7 months ago

Threw a no hitter, won a rookie of the year award and was very reliable.

ILikeStake
3 years 7 months ago

Not just Nomo but Daisuke got a ring. If Darvish helps Rangers get a ring I think its all worth it.  People can complain about Daisuke all they want but that one year was worth the investment.

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

Then I guess for the Yankees, AJ Burnett was a good investment too?

oz10
3 years 7 months ago

As a Ranger fan I think he was a great investment because he has locked up money that could have been used by the Yanks elsewhere.

MB923
3 years 7 months ago

Oh well, we will have that 1 memory, just like the Sox fans with Dice-K. We shall see how Darvish does.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

RIGHT…..he kept the yanks from signing others. 

psssttt….despite AJ’s $16.5 mil per the Yanks managed to find $150 mil in the couch cushions to offer to Cliff Lee.

Kurisu Rg
3 years 7 months ago

Cushions? I think they were just doing their laundry that day and put together all the money they found in it.

3 years 7 months ago

There really haven’t been that many examples, theres only been a couple top notch guys who didn’t come over during the twilights of their career. Daisuke wasn’t a failure until his second season, and it was mostly because of his failure to adjust to the MLB not his stuff. Igawa wasn’t that good to begin with. It’s not fair to generalize yet, considering how many failed can’t miss prospects come from everywhere else, they come in huge numbers but for far smaller dollar amounts, You can throw a handful of skittles at someone but only a couple will get in the mouth.

Lyndsey Stuart
3 years 7 months ago

Kaz Sasaki, Hasegawa, and Johjima all lived up to their contracts.

nymets4581
3 years 7 months ago

Agreed, they did live up them. And by “living up,” I mean they were alive through the duration of their contracts

Nicholas Stuart
3 years 7 months ago

Sasaki won a ROY and 2 all star selections in his 4 year MLB and averaged 38 saves a year as a closer.  Seems like a good deal to me

Ron Miller
3 years 7 months ago

Being a Boston fan, I can only point to the enormous hype that surrounded DiceK when he came to Boston 5 years ago. He too was a can’t miss pitcher with A+ stuff, but he never ever lived up to it. He was a good # 4 or 5 starter and sometimes not even that. I’ll believe Darvish is worth more to the Rangers than CJ Wilson when I see him perform. Until then I remain cautiously skeptical.

Andy
3 years 7 months ago

Wasn’t he like 18-3 his first year?

Yankees420
3 years 7 months ago

He went 18-3 his 2nd season, but that record is just another example of what’s wrong with evaluating a pitcher with W-L record.  He walked over 5 per 9, while averaging less than 6 IP per start.  His 2.90 ERA that season was helped tremendously by a .258 BABIP and an 80.6 LOB%. 

Dice-K has never really put up a stellar season in the MLB, but if it weren’t for the posting fee, he’d probably be worth his contract if he could stay healthy.  

Ron Miller
3 years 7 months ago

Exactly, he was wildly inconsistent and every start (with the exception of a few beauties) was an adventure. He often was up to 60 or 70 pitches by the 3rd inning. I agree though. If it were just the salary, he was probably worth it, but with the posting fee, definitely not.

thegrayrace
3 years 7 months ago

Nomo, Saito, Kuroda… and that’s just the Dodgers.

Kurisu Rg
3 years 7 months ago

All pitchers in one hell of a pitchers’ park.

3 years 7 months ago

I love this! I can’t wait to see Darvish pitch and I really hope he succeeds! Already looking forward to baseball!!

HolaAmigas
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah! I really want to see him vs Ichiro haha.

3 years 7 months ago

that could be his 1st match up. rangers play the m’s the 4th game of the season

3 years 7 months ago

I’ve been looking foward to baseball since October 30.

Raymond Holguin
3 years 7 months ago

good go somewhere else fielder please thanks

3 years 7 months ago

Good. I can’t wait to see what this kid can do. Now go get Fielder!

3 years 7 months ago

bwahahaha, they cant afford fielder. hence the reason it was said that they are likely out of the fielder chase. unless fielder will take a 50 million dollar contract and a dozen hotdogs. i doubt the rangers are going to get him now. especialy since they just paid 102 million for an unproven pitcher. yeah yeah he was so great in japan. lets see what he does against bigger ball players

Andy
3 years 7 months ago

The Rangers, like many other teams, are not strapped for cash. If you do your homework, you’ll see that they most likely CAN afford him. But they won’t necessarily sign someone just because they have the money. They’re more prudent with their money than, say, Miami. Not that there’s anything wrong with that; we are who we are.

Suggesting that the Rangers definitely will, or definitely won’t, sign Prince is wrong. Nobody knows what they’ll do.

$1742854
3 years 7 months ago

Question about posting fees: what parameters are used to come up with an exact posting fee like $51,703,411?

3 years 7 months ago

11 and 34 are numbers for Nolan Ryan and Darvish or something like that. I forget though.

3 years 7 months ago

Oh, right. That too.

3 years 7 months ago

None. The teams just toss out what they think is fair. The Rangers must have been using the “The Price is Right” method–trying to outbid their opponents by as little as possible by using a very specific number.

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

They used Nolan’s number and Yu’s number for the last 4 digits (according to reports). Kinda creative I say.

nzmrmn
3 years 7 months ago

Front offices use regression analysis in their bids on high value players like these. Computer spits it out, F.O. fills out the check.

nzmrmn
3 years 7 months ago

Front offices use regression analysis in their bids on high value players like these. Computer spits it out, F.O. fills out the check.

3 years 7 months ago

Can Yu believe it????

Wes9825
3 years 7 months ago

Only a Rangers fan would get excited about someone who has never pitched in the Show…sad really. At least the Halos knew who they were spending that wad on…
Kon-ichiwa beyotches! Welcome to the Show, Meat.
 

inleylandwetrust
3 years 7 months ago

God you Angels fans sure have become annoying

Wes9825
3 years 7 months ago

haha, that’s rich coming from a Detroit person. 

inleylandwetrust
3 years 7 months ago

Which means….?

 C’mon Wes, step your trolling game up.

3 years 7 months ago

The annoying Angel fan was birthed in 2002. Nothing new here.

VegasANGELSFan
3 years 7 months ago

Agreed.  I am just excited for the race in the AL West, should be a good rivalry for years to come.

3 years 7 months ago

Poor, poor A’s and Mariners…

Actually, I hope they start getting better, too. I want the AL West to be a place where players want to play and where competition is fierce. 

VegasANGELSFan
3 years 7 months ago

That’s true.  The AL West will still be bad other than the Rangers and Angels.  The Mariners should be bad for awhile, but I like their future prospects better than the poor A’s.  The A’s will be a doomed franchise without a new stadium, theirs is TERRIBLE.  And then the Astros join the AL West.  I am not sure which team will be worse moving forward, the A’s or Astros… 

gnats
3 years 7 months ago

A 31 year old that the Rangers let walk because they knew he wouldn’t be worth what he wanted?

Yep.  You got us there…

Wes9825
3 years 7 months ago

funny how you never let anyone talk trash about Wilson and always stuck up for him, but now that Daniels gives the $$ to an unknown MLB commodity, suddenly Wilson is crap??

Texas, you DEFINE the word “BANDWAGON” in the dictionary.