Rangers To Sign Yu Darvish

THURSDAY, 10:41pm: Jeff Wilson of The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has the year-by-year breakdown of Darvish's contract. The right-hander will earn $5.5MM in 2012, $9.5MM in 2013, $10MM annually from 2014-2016, and $11MM in 2017.

WEDNESDAY, 6:41pm: Even if they’d had a relatively quiet offseason, the two-time defending American League Champions could have been a playoff-caliber team in 2012. Yet they spent aggressively on one of the top available arms and became a little scarier in the process. The Rangers have agreed to sign Yu Darvish to a six-year deal in the $60MM range. Agents Don Nomura and Arn Tellem represent the 6'5" 25-year-old and negotiated for bonuses that could be worth another $10MM. 

Darvish can opt out of the contract after the fifth year, Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram tweets. However, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports adds (on Twitter) that Darvish must hit certain "high-end award levels" to be able to opt out of the contract. The deal is worth just $56MM guaranteed, Wilson tweets. Wilson says the deal includes $4MM in bonuses with the potential to reach even more incentives by winning Cy Young Awards. 

GM Jon Daniels liked what he saw when he watched Darvish pitch in June, and the Rangers committed a record-setting amount for the right to negotiate with the right-hander. The Nippon Ham Fighters obtain a $51,703,411 posting fee from the Rangers, who topped the $51.1MM Boston paid for the rights to speak with Daisuke Matsuzaka five years ago.

Darvish posted a 1.44 ERA with 10.7 K/9 and 1.4 BB/9 in 232 innings this past season and he hasn't posted an ERA above 2.00 since 2007. He'll join a Rangers rotation that looks considerably different than it did a year ago. C.J. Wilson is gone, but Neftali Feliz will move to the rotation and Colby LewisDerek HollandMatt HarrisonScott Feldman and Alexi Ogando provide manager Ron Washington with an abundance of alternatives for the rest of the rotation.

The Angels finished ten games behind the Rangers in both 2010 and 2011, but GM Jerry Dipoto has signed Wilson and Albert Pujols, so the Angels are considerably more threatening entering the 2012 campaign.

Prince Fielder may have lost a suitor this afternoon. It's been reported that the Rangers are unlikely to sign both him and Darvish, so agent Scott Boras may turn elsewhere as he looks to find a deal for the 27-year-old free agent. ESPN.com's Jayson Stark tweets that the Rangers feel "less urgency" to sign Fielder, though a deal is still possible.

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first tweeted news of the agreement, Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News tweeted the value of the deal and Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweeted news of the incentives. The Rangers have confirmed the deal.


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  1. Marktown 4 years ago

    Go Rangers.

    • Halos fans are very upset that Rangers were 1st in the AL west the past 2 seasons… its funny the comments they leave on here

      • Marktown 4 years ago

        It’s cause they know they have a 3 year window and a 7 year albatross of a contract with Mr. Pujols. Colby Lewis is the veteran of our rotation followed by nothing but guys under 30. The Angels should be desperate because they know they can’t compete with the greatness of Jon Daniels.

        • Nick Sossamon 4 years ago

          3 year window?  Because we won’t shed any payroll in the future or be able to sign any more great offensive players with a $3B television contract… right.  Pujols will never prevent us from signing additional talent, and will bring in major dollars with marketing revenue and ticket sales alone.  Get over the contract length argument already, it’s tired, dull and baseless.  Even if he falls off completely in five years and becomes useless in the field, he’s in the land of the DH. 

          I guess paying $110M for a guy that’s never thrown an MLB pitch isn’t risky at all though.  And since when does under 30 equal good?  Your rotation has a lot more question marks than the Angels. 

          The Rangers are a great team, I’m not delusional.  But I would say things are about even right now as far as chances to win the division go.  Especially if Morales can contribute in a meaningful way.

          • The Rangers have not done their homework. I trust you know way more than the Rangers front office. Thank yu for your very helpful information.

          • Pujols and CJ are not over paid at all…

          • sarcasm?

          • CJ signed a very reasonable deal..

          • Marktown 4 years ago

            C: Napoli/Yorvit > Ianetta/Conger
            1b: Pujols > Moreland/Young
            2b: Kinsler > Kendrick
            SS: Andrus/Aybar is a wash (Aybar may have had the better WAR last year, but I prefer Andrus’s potential)
            3b: Beltre > Trumbo
            OF: Hamilton/Cruz/Murphy/Gentry > Hunter/Abreu/ Bourjos/Trout/Wells
            DH: Young/Morales is a wash (if Morales produces to his ’09 potential, this is an Angels win, but that’s a big question mark based on his fragility)
            Angels rotation > Rangers rotation
            Rangers bullpen > Angels bullpen

            Rangers won the division by ten games last season. Angels haven’t made up ten games on a Rangers team that is better than last year.

          • Daniel 4 years ago

            The Rangers may be better than last year, but you are forgetting that the Angels are definitely better than last year.

            The Angels add Pujols, Wilson, Hawkins, and Ianetta who have 2011 Fangraph WAR of 5.1, 5.9, 0.7, and 3.3.
            Morales will also return, and at a modest estimate he adds 1.7 WAR, which is half his 2009 WAR.
            The Angels lose Pineiro, Mathis, and Chatwood which add -1.3, 1, and -0.5 WAR based on 2011.
            This total change adds up to +15.9.

            The Rangers add Nathan and Darvish. I will get back to Darvish, since he is the question mark. Fangraphs fans project Nathan will have 1 WAR, which is fairly reasonable.
            They also get full seasons of Uehara and Adams. This could add 0.65 and 0.9 WAR respectively to the team, which is a very generous estimate based on half their 2011 seasons.
            The Rangers also lose Oliver, which adds -1.3 WAR from his 2011 season.
            This totals to a net change in WAR of +1.25.

            Yes I know I missed some other statistically insignificant transactions, and I know WAR is not the greatest stat for pitching. This does provide a reasonable estimate, however, because we are making predictions anyway.

            If you subtract the Rangers change in WAR (1.25) and the 2011 GB (10) from the Angels change in WAR (15.9), you wind up with the Angels being better than the Rangers by 4.65 wins before Darvish. If Darvish pitches for 4.65 or better WAR, he would have a better season in 2012 than Lincecum in 2011.

            Now, do not get me wrong. I do not think that additions/subtractions in baseball are as simple as WAR. However, I disagree with your and anyone else’s insistence that the numbers show that the Rangers are unquestionably better than the Angels. I think the WAR system is flawed simply because it does not predict a team’s value or outcome (i.e. a lineup, an outfield, an infield, a rotation, a bullpen). There are many more factors that come into play in the team sport of baseball. In fact, adding two scary hitters in Pujols and Morales into the lineup of aggressive but not very intimidating hitters will make everyone’s individual WAR go up.

  2. Congratulations to both the Rangers and Darvish, hope he lives up to the hype! Should be fun to watch.

  3. chico65 4 years ago

    Yu’ve gone and done it now Nolan!

    Terms?

  4. Shawnthemon 4 years ago

    Maybe the Jays can try and trade for Matt Harrison, the Rangers have so much depth in starting pitching now, I would think one of them in expendable

    • Marktown 4 years ago

      Who on the Blue Jays do you think would be a good fit in Texas?

      • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

        Probably just prospects, I don’t think Texas really needs that much lol, other than a first basemen, but we hardly have one.

        • They’ll need some of that money back when Hamilton comes back with an offer on the table at the end of the season.

          • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

            Which Money? The Darvish money? I am sure that the Billionaires who own the Rangers can afford Hamilton.

        • coolstorybro222 4 years ago

          or maybe they take their remaining money and get fielder instead?

          • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

            Where did I talk about money?

      • cyberboo 4 years ago

        Not happening.  Harrison would be the sixth starter on the Jays and he is no better than the first five, making a trade for him useless.  The Jays also have four guys with huge upside ready this year or next, making Harrison a liability.

        • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

          Ummm, what? Other than Romero and Morrow, I would say he is the best, Alvarez might be better in the future, but he is only 21, and needs polishing, Harrison is better than Cecil, and Drabek (unless Drabek gets control).

          • Doug Drabek maybe. Definitely not the son.

          • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

            If you watched Drabek last year, you can see how lost he was, no confidence, no control, every start was a snow ball effect, getting worse by the inning.

            Not saying I would rather have Harrison over Drabek, I would obviously rather Drabek, he has amazing stuff. Just at this point, I would rather have Harrison in my rotation. 

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            I agree.. however Drabek will be fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation. An uphill battle at that.

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Yeah I’d rather keep Harrison. He’s going to be a good one in Texas. I’d say trade Ogando, but teams may be wary of his lack of experience as a starter do far and I see it being a huge hole in our bullpen if he’s traded. Maybe Feldman?

      • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

        I would love Ogando, even if he doesn’t work out as a starter, I would put his 99 MPH fastball in my bullpen with no problem. 

        • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

          Which is the exact reason I’d like to keep Ogando as well. I see him as a possible closer next year of Adams leaves. I know we have Nathan but at his age, I think Nathan would be a better 8th inning guy. Feldman regained a cutter that was better than ever last season, which is the pitch that makes him good, so I could see him being traded to the Jays for some lower (preferably pitching) prospects with high potential.

          • Shawnthemon 4 years ago

            Not a fan of Feldman, I don’t see him as an upgrade over Cecil really.

          • problem with feldman is that hes not remotely interesting as a trade candidate. theres almost no point in the jays acquiring a back end starter. they’re far more likely to fill the rotation internally, and theres probably a good chance that two of mcgowan, cecil, drabek and also hutchinson and mcguire later in the season could out-produce feldman anyways.

  5. NWDC 4 years ago

    Fielder to Nats for 6/$125 with a 3 year player opt out.

    • Natsfan89 4 years ago

      Nats won’t give him an opt out.

      • NWDC 4 years ago

        Yeah they will.  Maybe a 4 year opt out.  What’s the big deal — if he’s done so well as to want to opt out, then it was a good signing.  Yeah we lose that upside but you can always renegotiate.  As a Nats fan, I want Prince from his 27-31 years anyway, not his decline.

    • CommissionerBart 4 years ago

      Fielder to Nats for 5 years guarenteed @ 26.5 annually (subject to weight and fitness clauses), mutual options for following 2 years.  No no-trade clause. No player opt out in 5 guarenteed years.  He seems to be lacking in incentive to be in the very best shape possible so team gamble needs to be limited.

      • NWDC 4 years ago

        Did Scott Boras write that contract?  26.5m annually plus no-trade plus opt out after 5?  Too rich.  But I like your head on the fitness clauses.

        • redsx968 4 years ago

          They key word there was “no.” He said NO no-trade clause and NO player opt out. 

      • NWDC 4 years ago

        Did Scott Boras write that contract?  26.5m annually plus no-trade plus opt out after 5?  Too rich.  But I like your head on the fitness clauses.

    • Wrek305 4 years ago

      Fielder is not going to Yellowstone park and play for the Nats. He’s much better off in Texas or back in Milwaukee on a short term deal.

  6. leachim2 4 years ago

    Rangers fans are all saying thank Yu.

  7. faceforest 4 years ago

    I take a “I’ll believe it when I see it” attitude to players coming from Japan. I get the feeling this may backfire and end up limiting their ability to resign some of their upcoming FA’s. But if it pans out, congrats to both of them.

    • nzmrmn 4 years ago

      I think he’s going to get destroyed by AL hitting in that launching pad.

      • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

        Yeah I don’t. Like its been said over and over again, the guys has insane fitness, a huge frame, a TON of plus offspeed pitches, he’s a good ground ball and strikeout pitcher, and for the people that think the heat will get to him, if Holland (an Ohio guy) can do it, Darvish can do it.

        • nzmrmn 4 years ago

          But can he throw the offspeed stuff while gripping an adult sized baseball??

          • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

            Have you ever seen this guy? He’s huge. If you really think he’ll have a problem holding a bigger ball, you’re insane. The only thing that might be a problem for him is pitching on shorter rest. But as stated before he’s in great shape and only 25. He will adapt.

          • It is not the fact that the baseball is a different size but that the seam’s are different, they are said to be eaiser to grip. Also the mound over there is flat compared to the pitchers mounds over here,also shorter rest and the fact he can’t throw an 80 pitch bullpen session the day before his starts. Oh and the heat yeah that will all just be easy peasy!

          • blurnandez 4 years ago

            You mean that same sized baseball that he used all of last season? I’m sure he’ll be fine.

        • PWNdroia 4 years ago

          Kind of like Matsuzaka WAS.

      • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

        Yeah I don’t. Like its been said over and over again, the guys has insane fitness, a huge frame, a TON of plus offspeed pitches, he’s a good ground ball and strikeout pitcher, and for the people that think the heat will get to him, if Holland (an Ohio guy) can do it, Darvish can do it.

    • A_Shoe 4 years ago

      You’re right. Apart from Ichiro and Hideki Matsui, none of them have come close to living up to the huge amount of hype that surrounds them.

      • legaryd 4 years ago

        I don’t think that’s a fair comparison.  Most Japanese stars come here in their late 20’s, early 30’s, or in the case of Dice-K, after they’ve thrown about 1200 innings.

        Until I see a few young Japan League stars come to the US for their age 25-28 seasons, the comparison between leagues is really just a lot of speculation.

        • oz10 4 years ago

          I like the deal but you have a few facts wrong. Darvish has 1268 innings under his belt compared to 1402 for Dice-K when he came over. That is only 134 inning difference or about 2/3 of a season. Dice-k was also 26 when he came over. But that is where it ends. Yu had a full run less ERA and a much better winning percentage. 

          • legaryd 4 years ago

            I don’t think I have any facts wrong, I’m lumping Yu into the pile of used up Japanese stars.  I think Yu will struggle after a year or two also.  Dice-k and Yu may be young, but their arms are all used up by the time they get here.

            I believe acquiring Japanese talent is like acquiring talent on the free-agent market.  In that acquiring talent on the free-agent market is usually not worth it.

          • oz10 4 years ago

            I thought you were saying that comparing Yu to Dice-K was not a fair comapirson based on Dice-k having more innings and being much older. I have reread your post and take back my “you have a few facts wrong” part.

          • Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

            You were doing great, until you wrote “winning percentage”. Uugh

          • oz10 4 years ago

            I ususally would not bring this up (I do understand how misleading that stat can be) but the disparity is big enough to where it does matter and combined with his full run lower ERA.

      • Andy 4 years ago

        Nomo would like a word with you. He was a CY candidate.

        • Victor Kipp 4 years ago

          Threw a no hitter, won a rookie of the year award and was very reliable.

          • ILikeStake 4 years ago

            Not just Nomo but Daisuke got a ring. If Darvish helps Rangers get a ring I think its all worth it.  People can complain about Daisuke all they want but that one year was worth the investment.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            Then I guess for the Yankees, AJ Burnett was a good investment too?

          • oz10 4 years ago

            As a Ranger fan I think he was a great investment because he has locked up money that could have been used by the Yanks elsewhere.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            Oh well, we will have that 1 memory, just like the Sox fans with Dice-K. We shall see how Darvish does.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            RIGHT…..he kept the yanks from signing others. 

            psssttt….despite AJ’s $16.5 mil per the Yanks managed to find $150 mil in the couch cushions to offer to Cliff Lee.

          • Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

            Cushions? I think they were just doing their laundry that day and put together all the money they found in it.

      • There really haven’t been that many examples, theres only been a couple top notch guys who didn’t come over during the twilights of their career. Daisuke wasn’t a failure until his second season, and it was mostly because of his failure to adjust to the MLB not his stuff. Igawa wasn’t that good to begin with. It’s not fair to generalize yet, considering how many failed can’t miss prospects come from everywhere else, they come in huge numbers but for far smaller dollar amounts, You can throw a handful of skittles at someone but only a couple will get in the mouth.

      • Lyndsey Stuart 4 years ago

        Kaz Sasaki, Hasegawa, and Johjima all lived up to their contracts.

        • nymets4581 4 years ago

          Agreed, they did live up them. And by “living up,” I mean they were alive through the duration of their contracts

          • Nicholas Stuart 4 years ago

            Sasaki won a ROY and 2 all star selections in his 4 year MLB and averaged 38 saves a year as a closer.  Seems like a good deal to me

      • Ron Miller 4 years ago

        Being a Boston fan, I can only point to the enormous hype that surrounded DiceK when he came to Boston 5 years ago. He too was a can’t miss pitcher with A+ stuff, but he never ever lived up to it. He was a good # 4 or 5 starter and sometimes not even that. I’ll believe Darvish is worth more to the Rangers than CJ Wilson when I see him perform. Until then I remain cautiously skeptical.

        • Andy 4 years ago

          Wasn’t he like 18-3 his first year?

          • Yankees420 4 years ago

            He went 18-3 his 2nd season, but that record is just another example of what’s wrong with evaluating a pitcher with W-L record.  He walked over 5 per 9, while averaging less than 6 IP per start.  His 2.90 ERA that season was helped tremendously by a .258 BABIP and an 80.6 LOB%. 

            Dice-K has never really put up a stellar season in the MLB, but if it weren’t for the posting fee, he’d probably be worth his contract if he could stay healthy.  

          • Ron Miller 4 years ago

            Exactly, he was wildly inconsistent and every start (with the exception of a few beauties) was an adventure. He often was up to 60 or 70 pitches by the 3rd inning. I agree though. If it were just the salary, he was probably worth it, but with the posting fee, definitely not.

      • thegrayrace 4 years ago

        Nomo, Saito, Kuroda… and that’s just the Dodgers.

        • Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

          All pitchers in one hell of a pitchers’ park.

  8. I love this! I can’t wait to see Darvish pitch and I really hope he succeeds! Already looking forward to baseball!!

  9. Raymond Holguin 4 years ago

    good go somewhere else fielder please thanks

  10. Good. I can’t wait to see what this kid can do. Now go get Fielder!

    • bwahahaha, they cant afford fielder. hence the reason it was said that they are likely out of the fielder chase. unless fielder will take a 50 million dollar contract and a dozen hotdogs. i doubt the rangers are going to get him now. especialy since they just paid 102 million for an unproven pitcher. yeah yeah he was so great in japan. lets see what he does against bigger ball players

      • Andy 4 years ago

        The Rangers, like many other teams, are not strapped for cash. If you do your homework, you’ll see that they most likely CAN afford him. But they won’t necessarily sign someone just because they have the money. They’re more prudent with their money than, say, Miami. Not that there’s anything wrong with that; we are who we are.

        Suggesting that the Rangers definitely will, or definitely won’t, sign Prince is wrong. Nobody knows what they’ll do.

  11. $1742854 4 years ago

    Question about posting fees: what parameters are used to come up with an exact posting fee like $51,703,411?

    • 11 and 34 are numbers for Nolan Ryan and Darvish or something like that. I forget though.

    • None. The teams just toss out what they think is fair. The Rangers must have been using the “The Price is Right” method–trying to outbid their opponents by as little as possible by using a very specific number.

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      They used Nolan’s number and Yu’s number for the last 4 digits (according to reports). Kinda creative I say.

    • nzmrmn 4 years ago

      Front offices use regression analysis in their bids on high value players like these. Computer spits it out, F.O. fills out the check.

    • nzmrmn 4 years ago

      Front offices use regression analysis in their bids on high value players like these. Computer spits it out, F.O. fills out the check.

  12. Can Yu believe it????

  13. Wes9825 4 years ago

    Only a Rangers fan would get excited about someone who has never pitched in the Show…sad really. At least the Halos knew who they were spending that wad on…
    Kon-ichiwa beyotches! Welcome to the Show, Meat.
     

    • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

      God you Angels fans sure have become annoying

      • Wes9825 4 years ago

        haha, that’s rich coming from a Detroit person. 

        • InLeylandWeTrust 4 years ago

          Which means….?

           C’mon Wes, step your trolling game up.

      • The annoying Angel fan was birthed in 2002. Nothing new here.

        • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

          Agreed.  I am just excited for the race in the AL West, should be a good rivalry for years to come.

          • Poor, poor A’s and Mariners…

            Actually, I hope they start getting better, too. I want the AL West to be a place where players want to play and where competition is fierce. 

          • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

            That’s true.  The AL West will still be bad other than the Rangers and Angels.  The Mariners should be bad for awhile, but I like their future prospects better than the poor A’s.  The A’s will be a doomed franchise without a new stadium, theirs is TERRIBLE.  And then the Astros join the AL West.  I am not sure which team will be worse moving forward, the A’s or Astros… 

    • gnats 4 years ago

      A 31 year old that the Rangers let walk because they knew he wouldn’t be worth what he wanted?

      Yep.  You got us there…

      • Wes9825 4 years ago

        funny how you never let anyone talk trash about Wilson and always stuck up for him, but now that Daniels gives the $$ to an unknown MLB commodity, suddenly Wilson is crap??

        Texas, you DEFINE the word “BANDWAGON” in the dictionary. 

        • Yeah, and I’m one of the Halos fans who hated Wilson as recently as six months ago. Now that he’s donning the real AL West red, I love him as one of my own.

          Plenty of hypocrisy (read: being a fan) to go around.

        • gnats 4 years ago

           Wilson’s not crap. He’s good. He’s just not worth what he wanted.

          And, being that the Rangers have been one of the best scouting teams over the last 4 years, I have complete faith that Darvish will succeed. 

          • “Darvish is not crap. He’s good. He’s just not worth what he wanted.”

          • Wes9825 4 years ago

            Only someone from Texas would take pride and gloat in having a great ‘scouting’ team. Didn’t really help in the ninth inning last two years now did it? 

          • $3513744 4 years ago

            So because they didn’t do well in the 9th, suddenly their scouting sucks?  Wow, would really like to know what that makes every other team in the league.

          • oz10 4 years ago

            You’re a funny one. And the ranger’s scouting department has gotten us to where we are. Granted we sucked forever yada yada, whatever. We are good now. The Angels are good. The past is fantastic and counting rings are great but it will all come to a head this year and will make for some great baseball.

        • Jon Melton 4 years ago

          Actually every real Rangers fan was doubting Wilson for 2 years,  he CHOKES in post season so enjoy him and that 100,00 mile cuban sports car.

          • Tko11 4 years ago

            Lebron chokes in the 4th does it make him a bad player?

          • tdot32 4 years ago

            it makes him ringless.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Tide makes him ringless. 

          • MB923 4 years ago

            Speaking of Lebron, did you hear about him bumping into Jeff Loria? (Literally bumping into)

          • Tko11 4 years ago

            He didnt even know who it was lol

          • Wes9825 4 years ago

            Actually, your bullpen and right fielder choked more than Wilson ever did. 

            TWICE. 

          • Wes9825 4 years ago

            “every real fan”….you mean all six of you! 

            Zing!

          • oz10 4 years ago

            I think we scared the Angel fan. He has turned to elementary school jokes.

        • ha halos fans are funny

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          he’s hot garbage now. he’s no longer their darling. same will be said toward montero, if God forbid, he stuggles early.

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      Actually, there are lots of fans who are eager to see what he can do.  There’s a whole country who’ll be watching.  I’m sure you’ve never gotten excited about seeing one of your top prospects who has never played in the majors.  There’s really no reason for them not to be excited until he flops.

      • Wes9825 4 years ago

        haha, a whole country?? Yeah right dude, every baseball fan is just itching to see Texas and a Korean pitcher.

        Keep yourself sleeping at night, does it? 

        • $3513744 4 years ago

          I guess your world only revolves around the US then.  Maybe you haven’t heard, but there’s other countries across that big body of water.  Maybe you should’ve turned on the tv the last few times one of these guys came over here to play.  But you’re right anyhow, there’s no reason to get excited about someone until they’re a proven star here.  We should all be so lucky to live under your rock. Thank you so much. We don’t know what we would do without you.

          • NathanielS 4 years ago

             “…there’s no reason to get excited about someone until they’re a proven star here.”

            Agreed!

        • NickinIthaca 4 years ago

          That’s a pretty massive fail for such a short post.

        • redsx968 4 years ago

          I’m assuming your intentionally being ignorant with the Korean comment, and to be honest it sucks to see that. First off no one thinks its funny, so you made a racist joke that’s not funny. Also, having spent 3 years in Japan and experiencing Yu-mania firsthand, I can tell you that an extremely significant portion of the population will be following his first start (at the very least). 

          So get your head out of the gutter and in the real world. It’s not WWII anymore- there are multiple countries over there, and believe it or not, America (apparently with the exception of you) doesn’t hate their occupants. 

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          Korean? Isn’t he Iraniapan (half Iranian and half Japanese)?

          • Yankees420 4 years ago

            Wouldn’t that make him Iranianese? 

        • Could you be more of a tool?

    • Joshua S. 4 years ago

      Yes, much better to know you’re throwing money at someone who completely wilted in the post-season…

    • jwsox 4 years ago

      you do realize that Yu darvish pitched against the japanese players who are typically GREAT hitters(the person with the most homeruns in the world is from japan with over 800) also yes the japanese league is much different then the MLB but this past season they switched to an MLB regulation ball and he still put up numbers that would give him a Cy young and MVP and possibly make an argument to change the name to the Yu Darvish award…..the strike zone is really the only difference…..yes the rangers spent in total 110 mill on a guy who has never pitched in the bigs but they will be paying on average Darvish less than Wilson will make per year. Darvish who is also 7 year younger than Wilson and has put up number albeit in a differen league wilson can only dream about.

      Also dont talk trash to the rangers when your team is paying 21 mill over the next 3 years to Vernon wells and will be paying albert 20+ mill a season in his late 30’s (34 being the typical age of decline) also paying albert 29 mill at age 40 and 30 mill at 41    i know i know i know its albert and he very well could beat the stats and continue to hit as he does or simply slump down to below average

      the angles paying 77 million for 5 players…..

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        Payroll expenditure has almost zero to do with forecasting a teams decline. They simply have to do a great job of constructing the rest of the team. I mean, just as they might be paying AP tons of money at 40 they will also have a bunch of vets off the payroll too and a farm system that has produced some good players.

  14. Madman2TX 4 years ago

    Congrats to the Rangers and Darvish. I’m still hoping for the double whammy of an offer soon to Fielder from the Rangers.

  15. Joe Costner 4 years ago

    fielder to the nats then morse to the rangers for harrison and andrus.

    • … Andrus won’t be dealt for Morse

    • gnats 4 years ago

       Who’s going to replace Andrus? That makes no sense.

      • El_Bobo 4 years ago

        Would be Profar I’m guessing in that situation.

        • gnats 4 years ago

           Profar, the guy who has never played a game above A-ball?

          Won’t happen…At least for a year or 2.

    • 95isOver 4 years ago

      Andrus + for Morse!?  LOLOL

    • i actually really like the sound of that morse + a 2 prospect for harrison and andrus,,,,,,,,but i think what is more likely is larouch to the rays for a few prospects

  16. The Nippon Ham Fighters recieved more for Darvish than the Padres team in 2008 and 2009 recieved, excluding Brian “.159″ Giles

  17. nzmrmn 4 years ago

    “The Nippon Ham Fighters obtain[ed] a $51,703,411 posting fee from the Rangers.” LOL JLEAGUE BASEBALL MAFIA!!!11!!!

    • Tko11 4 years ago

      They must feel like Pokemon trainers. Level 90 Yu for $51 million! 

  18. 95isOver 4 years ago

    Hold that thought

  19. Liam Gallagher 4 years ago

    can’t wait to see him pitch! Congrats to the Rangers and YU

  20. Mike1L 4 years ago

    Fielder to the Yankees on a one year deal for $7 million to “reestablish his value.”  Boras takes early retirement. 

  21. Fielder…. Welcome to Washington. They have been expecting your call.

  22. Great news for Angels fans- TX when all said and done will have spent well more than $100mill on what amounts to a really good prospect.  Next year is gonna be a fun one in the West.  

    • Andy 4 years ago

      As long as you’ve got that hotline to the future, can you tell us who the next president will be?

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        Ummm…he’s actually right, isn’t he? He didn’t say Yu would fail, but right now, he’s a prospect.

    • oz10 4 years ago

      Great news Rangers. The Angels are still paying Vernon Wells $21 million a year and will be paying Pujols $30 million when he is 41.

  23. Great news for Angels fans- TX when all said and done will have spent well more than $100mill on what amounts to a really good prospect.  Next year is gonna be a fun one in the West.  

  24. Commander_Nate 4 years ago

    Been a fan of this dude since 2009 and waiting for him to make it to MLB. Now I gotta root for Pujols, Trumbo, Morales, Hunter to go yard off him. This is like when Anakin Skywalker turned on Obi Wan.

  25. El_Bobo 4 years ago

    Uh, he’s actually Japanese. Japanese-Iranian to be exact.

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      Oh, don’t bother correcting him.  There’s no room for reason in here.

  26. Korean? Lol. Whatta troll…I mean loser…I mean troll

  27. Nathan 4 years ago

    Pssh, he ain’t no Jack Cust.

  28. Nathan 4 years ago

    Pssh, he ain’t no Jack Cust.

  29. start_wearing_purple
    start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

    Somewhere, in a dark land, at the top of a high evil looking building, sitting on a chair made of the skin of former GMs, Scott Boras is petting a cat saying “I’ll get you next time Jon Daniels!”

  30. Korean? Lol. Whatta troll…I mean loser…I mean trolling loser

  31. $3828999 4 years ago

    It’s obvious from the Darvish signing that Fielder lands in Houston as a member of the Astros.  He and Cust in the middle of that lineup is nothing short of sickeningly frightening.  

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      No way.  He’ll be the new Yankees SS when Jeter’s hip breaks.

      • $3828999 4 years ago

        He could platoon between ss and 3b for the yankees.  He’d also play 3b exclusively against the M’s during games at Safeco so that Pay-rod wouldn’t have to endure the boos and be melancholy over the  “Who let the dog in?” signs.  

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      No way.  He’ll be the new Yankees SS when Jeter’s hip breaks.

  32. TDKnies 4 years ago

    No matter whether he flops, shines, or just gets by, this is going to be fun.

    • nzmrmn 4 years ago

      Agree, I’ve only seen YouTube highlight clips and never seen him pitch a full game but it will be fun to see what he can do in the Show. This is Good For Baseball.

    • nzmrmn 4 years ago

      Agree, I’ve only seen YouTube highlight clips and never seen him pitch a full game but it will be fun to see what he can do in the Show. This is Good For Baseball.

  33. LanceKlein 4 years ago

    Lol all of the Angels fans…

  34. MB923 4 years ago

    6 years, $60 million. I’d say that’s…….

  35. Stark2k 4 years ago

    6 years 111.7 million dollars for a 25 year old,  6″5′, mid 90s throwing four plus pitch having, good commanding Japan dominating pitcher with a great work ethic.

    Its risky because all pitching prospects are risky, but not any more so because hes Japanese.  But a 25 year old ace under contract for 6 years is pretty much the single most valuable thing to have in the major leagues, so Ill gladly take the rare chance to get one.  Could end up being a mediocre disappointment, could be a steal.  For a contender who can support the money, do it.

    • Tko11 4 years ago

      Why count the posting fee? It doesnt go towards the payroll… 

      • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

        While it doesn’t count toward the payroll for luxury tax purposes, they are still paying the money…

        • They also get to amortize the posting fee over the life of the deal, which saves them on taxes each year.  If he gets the bonus, it works out to a 6 year/$103.72M contract.

          Then depending on how much Japanese revenue he might bring in, the contract gets better and better.

          $1M/year=$98.07M
          $2M/year=$92.42M
          $3M/year=$86.77M

          While they will “pay” more money than CJ Wilson got, the overall value of having Darvish could work out in the Rangers favor financially.

          • VegasANGELSFan 4 years ago

            I was not aware of the amortization aspect of the posting fee.  That is interesting. 

            It will be interesting to see who does better between CJ and Darvish.  With CJ, you should theoretically know what you are getting as long as he can keep with his last two years’ numbers.  Moving from Texas to Anaheim’s park should only help his numbers, but I don’t know that I believe his ERA can get much lower.

            From what I have read, Darvish has the possible making of a true ace in MLB, which CJ is not.  But, he is moving to a much tougher league and a poor pitcher’s park, so I am interested and excited to see the way things play out.

            I agree with you regarding things possibly working out in the Rangers’ favor better this way.  So many people only look at the amount a player signs for and don’t factor in the additional revenue a player can bring.   

        • It’s just oil money from the owners…plenty more where that came from

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        Because they still have to pay it? It may not count towards lux tax or payroll but that’s still the cost of obtaining him.

  36. Stark2k 4 years ago

    6 years 111.7 million dollars for a 25 year old,  6″5′, mid 90s throwing four plus pitch having, good commanding Japan dominating pitcher with a great work ethic.

    Its risky because all pitching prospects are risky, but not any more so because hes Japanese.  But a 25 year old ace under contract for 6 years is pretty much the single most valuable thing to have in the major leagues, so Ill gladly take the rare chance to get one.  Could end up being a mediocre disappointment, could be a steal.  For a contender who can support the money, do it.

  37. lefty58 4 years ago

    100 Mil+ for a guy who has never thrown a pitch in MLB and has never even thrown a MLB size ball. Brutal.

    • His best season came after the league switched to MLB-sized balls.

      • lefty58 4 years ago

        Not true, the balls are still slightly smaller and the seams are 3 to 4 times larger than MLB’s. 

        • $17867741 4 years ago

          In
          recent years, the NPB started using a new type of baseball. I’ve heard
          comparisons that the current Japanese baseball is a near-perfect clone
          to its American counterpart.

          Dice-K never got a chance to pitch with the ‘clone’ before coming to
          America. On the other hand, Yu Darvish has pitched with the ‘clone’ and
          still put up his monster numbers.
          However, there are a few other noticeable differences:1) The mound in Japan is slightly lower when compared to America.2) Culturally, Japanese pitchers will take a bullpen practice session the day before a scheduled start. In that ‘practice’ session, pitchers will often throw 80 or more pitches at full strength. Obviously routine in America is much different.
          link to mlb.mlb.com

    • JimBaily 4 years ago

      The balls used in Japan Baseball have grown slightly over time, but are substantially different than the kind used in US baseball. The heavy seams used in Japan if brought here would be like raising the mound by 8 inches it is estimated. There is no question he will lose break, as any pitcher who plays overseas will tell you, but he may have a better chance than many if his hands are as big as most 6’5 people’s are, if not it will be tough on him to pitch in hot weather and with these balls.

  38. lefty58 4 years ago

    100 Mil+ for a guy who has never thrown a pitch in MLB and has never even thrown a MLB size ball. Brutal.

  39. This is what ron washington is doing right now with this news…..

  40. Great deal for Texas. 

  41. Now prince can wait till McCourt sells and then he’ll sign with the dodgers!!! Oh joy!

  42. safari_punch 4 years ago

    I guess I was wrong. Darvish has no taste in teams and will go play in Texas.

    • Stark2k 4 years ago

      Yes, who would want to be on the two time defending AL champions with a good clubhouse, front office and minor league system.  I bet he was rooting to go to the Astros.

    • You have no taste and no knowledge of the Rangers and the DFW area.

    • Maybe he didn’t want to play in front of D-bags like you.

  43. Brandon Smith 4 years ago

    Cheaper than I thought…Fielder next? DO IT

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      Yeah, no kidding.  I can definitely see it if that’s all they signed him for.

  44. $3513744 4 years ago

    He was pretty good in MVP Baseball, so he’ll likely be nothing short of the greatest player who ever lived.

  45. geauxbraves2000 4 years ago

    Wow, what a colossal waste of money.  Paying in excess of $51M just to have the rights to a $10M/year pitcher?

    • LanceKlein 4 years ago

      Yeah because you know exactly how he’s gonna turn out

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      That’s just how the system works.  They’re paying the guy 10 mil a year. He could potentially be an ace.  That’s a pretty good risk to take if you got the money.

  46. Justanotherfantoo 4 years ago

    Great move for the Rangers!  I expect Darvish to be an absolute beast.  If he pitches like I expect he will, other teams, especially the Yankees, will be kicking themselves for not bidding more aggressively for him for years.  Kudos to the Rangers!

    And they’re paying him the equivalent of less than $20 million per year with only $10 million per year counting against the luxury tax calculation!?! Wow! Again, if he pitches like I think he will, the Yankees will rue the day they passed on him.

    They probably know something (make that LOTS of things) that I don’t know. So I’m probably wrong. But that’s sure the way it looks to me given the things that I do know today.

  47. slider32 4 years ago

    It will be interesting to see if Darvish is the ace the Rangers have been missing. He will have to be for the Rangers to stay ahead of the Angels this year. The Angels have two of the top ten pitchers in baseball in Haren and Weaver according to most experts on the MLB network. I would agree that the Phillies and Angels have the best starting staffs in baseball.

    • JimBaily 4 years ago

      You mean like the one they just let go?

      • Like, he wasn’t an ace! He bombed in the postseason! Never mind what he did in the regular season!

      • CJ is a big game playoff choking chump–Texas suckered the Angels into taking him so they could trade up for YU

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          Did they hire a young hottie to whisper “you must sign CJ Wilson” in Moreno’s ear while he slept? 

      • slider32 4 years ago

        Wilson was not a #1 pitcher, he will be a #3 or 4 for the Angels.

    • Andy 4 years ago

      2 of the top 10? Ehh…not sure about that. Best starting staff in the AL? Yeah. Hard to argue with that.

      Very interesting year, I think.

  48. Daisuke Matsuzaka Version 2

    • Stark2k 4 years ago

      If there was a Daisuke V2 who was half a foot taller, in much better shape with better stuff and better command.. sign me up for that.

  49. BooJays33 4 years ago

    congrats to rangers fans…your front office is clearly willing to do what it takes to win…which is more than we can say up in toronto

    • start_wearing_purple
      start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

      Wow… it took one missed opportunity for AA to go from genius to unwilling to do what it takes.

      • BooJays33 4 years ago

        no not at all AA is doing a bangup job.  but he’s handcuffed financially thats pretty obvious. anyways this has been beaten to death simply congratulating a fanbase on rooting for a team whose ownership puts their money where their mouth is.

        • slider32 4 years ago

          I thought the Rogers group was the richest in baseball. The problem is the fan base is weak. Check their attendence the last few years.

      • slider32 4 years ago

        AA, you snooze, you lose.

  50. and a coach who does this

  51. yeah and a coach who does this lol….

  52. god dangint post my picture…..

  53. and if he is a complete bust, Nolan ryan will by Ron washington and Josh Hamilton a line of coke while the rest of team is smoking weed and drinking tequilla in the clubhouse. hey maybe they can invite the redsox out to join them? they seem to be very good at the drinking aspect

  54. JimBaily 4 years ago

    It’s going to be tough for an Asian kid to move to a place that is widely considered the most racist place in America. I hope it works out for him, but it will be very difficult.
     

    • Stark2k 4 years ago

      Oh please, Texas is a very big place.  Whatever posh neighborhood/apartment he lives in and around the Ballpark is hardly some backwoods country town with some 80 year old racists. 

      You actually think a Japanese guy going into a nice restaurant in DFW gets racist stuff said to him?  What, that on his first start the fans will boo him for being Japanese/Iranian? Sigh.

      Hes going to be (already is actually) a millionaire young athlete, he will live it up with no problems. Not that your random Japanese guy in DFW has any problems either.

      • NathanielS 4 years ago

         “Oh please, Texas is a very big place.”

        America gets it. Texas is big. 

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        now if he was black…then…watch out. avg black guy doesn’t stand a chance in hang ’em land.

        joking….sort of.

      • McYankee84 4 years ago

        I agree with Stark on this one… I lived down in Texas with my gf(who was asian) a year back… Texas is big… and has a huge asian population.. it won’t be that difficult for him

    • Texas is the most racist place in America???  You must not get out much. 

    • Yea, DFW is so racist that we’re one of the most culturally diverse areas in the country. Why don’t you get out of your room and get a life.

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        culturally diverse doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of racism. not banging the drum that it IS the most racist but the make up has zero to do with it. NYC is THEE most diverse city in the world probably, yet it didn’t keep a dude from getting a broom stick shoved up in him from the cops or from another guy being shot 40 times when he pulled out his sandwich (not that I can understand why he would choose that time to take a bite out of his sandwhich though).

        • oz10 4 years ago

          That couldn’t be more wrong. Manhattan yes but there are 4 other burroughs. I found it to be such a segregated area where the Italians only hang out with Italians, Mexicans with Mexicans, Jews with Jews, Russians with Russians, etc. Even look at Boston where if you are not of the culture of a neighborhood, you don’t go there. It is not this way in Texas and a lot of this is because of the civil rights movement and people being conscientious of this. AS a country we still have major issues with this but it is not just specific areas of the country that deal with it. Now go out to the back country areas and it is a bit different. Similar to upstate NY.

  55. thebigbangdito 4 years ago

    $51 million posting fee
    $60 millon contract
    $10 potential bonus

    $121 mill for a unknown in a very hitter friendly ballpark….decent signing (if he some how proves himself not to be a dice-k 2.0) 

    And to those saying dont count the posting fee… you should count it.. yes it doesnt go toward the rangers payroll, however that still is 51$ million the team could have been using elsewhere (fielder?/hamilton/etc)… so it does affect the team and should be totalled into everything.

    • slider32 4 years ago

      I would think the biggest factors for Darvish are, the heat in Texas, the hitters ballpark, and the fact he has never played in the majors.

      • thebigbangdito 4 years ago

        oh ya.  When it hits those summer temps he isnt going to be used to that at all….he is going to get tired quickly and start leaving balls where they shouldnt be and they will be launched out of that park

        • Have you even ever been to Texas or are you just regurgitating the same excuses everyone says to try to hate on Texas? 

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            it’s not hate but does anyone need to live in dallas to know it gets extremely hot a humid in the summer or that your ballpark serves up a lot of hrs? I mean I can go online and figure that out. also, it’s basic physiology that the more exposed to the heat you are, even when not performing anything athletic, then the more you sweat, the more electrolytes you lose and the more of a toll it takes on your body and it’s level of endurance.

    • oz10 4 years ago

      It does count but the extra 10 mil is only if he is the real deal so it is only a $111 mil risk. That is still a crap ton of money but sounds better than $121. If it ends up being a $121 mil deal it means that this was all worth it.

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Yeah Texas easily has enough money to extend Hamilton, Napoli, Adams, Kinsler, etc. They could possibly even have enough to offer a competitive offer for Fielder on top of all that (they’d probably offer below what he’s asking in the hopes his price finally comes down).

  56. And cue Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports writing a new article calling the Rangers the  World Series favorites.

  57. wickedkevin 4 years ago

    Who’s on the mound?
    Yu.
    Me?
    Not you, yu.

    Time to bring back that joke of who’s on first.

  58. Tired_OF_FakeRumors 4 years ago

    The Rangers are gonna make some money on publicity.

  59. if darvish ends up being as good as he is in Japan, this deal is a huuuuge bargain. 10M per year? even with the posting fee, this might be a bargain.

    • lefty58 4 years ago

      Seriously? There is almost no scenario where this could end up being a bargain at 20 mil per yr. If he’s a top 3 MLB pitcher, it’s not a bad deal, but other than that, bargain is beyond highly unlikely.

      • Stark2k 4 years ago

        Top 3 MLB pitchers are worth far more than 20 million per year in their prime seasons.  Signing in their 30s usually stops anyone from giving it to them.

  60. cardsfan209 4 years ago

    Finally, the madness is over! 

  61. jwsox 4 years ago

    considering that the posting fee typically does not count towards the budget/ “cap”(luxury tax) this is a great deal…10 per move up to what 11.5per if Yu gets all the incentives. They should have enough money if they wanted to to go out and get fielder as well. Their cable contract 3 bill a year over 20 years which is 150 million a year. thats already even with Darvish 40+ mill more than their payroll. Considering they could use just the cable contract money for their payroll(use ticket sales, merch, vendor, ad space sales to pay employees) they could easily afford Fielder too and still have money left over. 

    with Darvish and arb raises their payroll for 2012 projects to 115 mill..leaving 35 mill a season left over from just the cable contract for 2012. also their boost in revenue because of the back to back world series there is more than enough money

     also 2013 young and his 16 mill are off the books nathan and his 7 mill are off in 2013(assuming his 2014 option is not picked up) feldmen is probably gone after his contract so there is another 9 mill so in 2013 alone assuming options are not picked up for nathan thats 32 million dollars off the books…yes hamilton, kinsler, napoli need to be extended but there is enough money there for them and fielder to be signed

    • OCAngels 4 years ago

      The rangers aren’t close to the cap first. Second, their tv contract ain’t 150 million per. It’s under 100 million per.

      • jwsox 4 years ago

        I know they are not close to the cap…also there is no such thing as a cap its the luxury tax And i know they are no where near it..their payroll last season was only 91 mill adding darvish to that its only 101 mill before arb raises…which is why i said there is more than enough money to sign fielder….also I have heard reports that yes its 80 mill but i have also read that its in the 100’s.  i mean 3billion divided by 20 years is 150 a year….even if its 80 mill….devote that entire 80 mill to the payroll and they can still have a ton of extra cash to spend

        • nicolasville96 4 years ago

          All the reputable networks, including one of Fox’s own executives, state that the deal is 80 million per. They aren’t a particularly rich team, and definitely not within the Angels’ ballpark of 115-150 million per year. 

          • I believe you mean to say they haven’t been a particularly rich team in the past.

            This isn’t your father’s Rangers.

          • nicolasville96 4 years ago

            No, I simply mean to say they don’t have the ridiculous income of 150 million per year via a TV deal. They certainly have some economic clout, but don’t have “tons of extra cash to spend.”

          • No, but it certainly seems to be there when they need it.

          • oz10 4 years ago

            It has since been reported that the deal is closer to $150 mil a year again.

      • oz10 4 years ago

        google “bbtia rangers tv deal” and there is a report there from Dec 20 showing that the deal is in the $3billion range.

  62. Ryan The Braves Fan For Life 4 years ago

    Now the Rangers have there world series

    • Slage8 4 years ago

      wouldn’t you rather have Fielder and a guy like Oswalt instead of an unproven yet highly-skilled foreign player? Heck, even if Oswalt’s body doesn’t hold up you have a good backup plan with a guy like Ogando or Harrison.

  63. rockies own

  64. Blago 4 years ago

    Theo is on fire

  65. Disgustedfan 4 years ago

    Everybody always talks about texas and the angels and rightfully so but what if the A’s won the division. How funny would that be?

    Moneyball 2 baby

    • OaklandFan22 4 years ago

      hahah ya i know thats what i was thinking

    • $3513744 4 years ago

      It wouldn’t be funny.  It would be pretty cool because of how unlikely it is.  But it’s just not going to happen.  The A’s suck.

    • NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

      The A’s have no weapons to compete in this division. Next 3-5 years they will be bottom dwellers alongside the M’s and Astros. Out of these three teams I would say the Mariners look like they have a brighter future. 

  66. KeithLawSucksInStl 4 years ago

    Rangers in a state of Yuphoria.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      that might be the best YUphemism i’ve heard so far.

  67. Guest 4 years ago

    I hope Scott Coolbaugh makes him pay to wear #11.

  68. Wrek305 4 years ago

    Yu and Fielder will lock up the extremely weak AL West. I hope they go after Fielder. That would be awesome. If they claim they have no money they are full of it. They could lock up Hamilton, Cruz and sign Fielder if they wanted to. Hamilton is an Injury risk and Cruz will be the only one they lock up anytime soon of course they need to lock up Napoli as well though.

    • Nicholas Stuart 4 years ago

      How do you figure the AL West is weak?  Pujols, Wilson, and Darvish all signed with AL West teams.  It may *may* be the best division in the AL.

      • b/c that division is locked up to have three 100 loss-teams at Seattle, Oakland, and Houston?

        • Drew Tweedie 4 years ago

          Houston not until next year, but yeah. Huge gap in that division.

        • Stark2k 4 years ago

          In terms of locking up a division, one other good team is all thats needed to make it difficult…. and the Astros arn’t in the AL West yet.

      • Wrek305 4 years ago

        It’s a two team race. That’s why. And next year it will still will be a two team race. Speaking of which it makes no sense for the Astro’s to move to the AL West. When it should be the KC Royals and then the Brewers could go back to where they belong in the AL Central. With the scenario. There would be no need for interleague play throughout the entire season. People act like the Cubs and Brewers are a huge rivalry and the fact of the matter is they really are not. RedSox/Yankees or Cubs/Cards that’s a real rivalry. RedSox/Yankees have some of the longest and most boring games ever as well.

      • Nope. The AL East is the best division in the MLB.

    • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

      I think the Angels would still be as good as Texas even if they got Yu and Fielder.  Angels will still have far better starting pitching with Weaver, Wilson, Haren, and Santana. The bullpen and lineup edge goes to Texas, but with Pujols and a healthly Morales the lineup gap might be surprisingly small. I expect Hunter, and Wells to bounce back a little where is I see Napoli, and Young coming down a bit. Without Fielder I would bet on the Angels beating out Texas. Pitching wins championships. 

      • The Rangers still have a much better lineup, without Fielder, than the Angels do.
        You killed your point when you said you expect Wells to bounce back after years of mediocrity, yet you trash the Rangers by saying Napoli and an ALWAYS great Michael Young will regress…

        • Adam R 4 years ago

          The Rangers are sooo much better, yet the Angels outscore them on the road? The Angels have such a pileup of bats now that you’ll probably see Wells only against lefties where he hit .284/.320 /.531/.851 against them

        • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

          I didn’t trash anyone. Michael Young is always great no argument here, I just see his stats coming down a bit because it’s gonna be hard to beat last seasons career best batting average at the age of 35. So while it could happen I don’t think you can just pencil in a career year for the guy, he is more likely to be around his career averages which is still very good. Napoli I expect to go down much for similar reasons. I could see him repeating his power but the average he put up was way over his head last year. Wells I could see hitting better because he played below his career averages and he got in less games last year than the previous two seasons. If he has a healthy year I could see him matching Napoli with something around 260’s around 30HR. Just my opinion, nobody got trashed. And I already said the bullpen and lineup go the Rangers way. I just don’t think it will be as far a gap as you might think. Angels bullpen might not be amazing but I think it will end up being solid. As for the rotation with Yu the Rangers are still not even close to the Angels. For one thing as much as I think Yu will pitch well you can’t just pencil him in as a strength until you know. And just like everybody is doing with Bard you can’t assume Feliz is going to a great starter either. Holland looks like he could be a very good pitcher. Lewis is solid to above. But again the rest are not that great (Harrison) or unproven. So if everything goes right for their rotation I still would take the Angels. In the playoffs they are likely to be much harder to beat.

          • Harrison was our 2nd best starter last year. Colby had an off year because of hip issues. He was still money all postseason.
            Nobody will argue for the Rangers rotation to be ahead of the Angels, but the Rangers lineup (without Prince) is still superior.
            If pitching was definitively what decided championships then the Phillies would have made it. You have to have a balance. Which the Rangers have. The Angels have it now too, but at the same time, people can just walk Pujols. Nobody is going to be scared to face Wells, Hunter, or Trumbo.

          • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

            The Rangers lineup is superior and I have said as much and although I also acknowledge that they have a very solid rotation I still would bet on the Angels above average lineup and far superior pitching. And yes sure they can walk Pujols sometimes but if Morales is healthy they will have someone who can really make em pay for it. The rest of the lineup is still pretty good with Kendrick, Trout emerging at some point, Hunter, Wells ect. Just my opinion though.

  69. KennyPowers11 4 years ago

    i would rather have texas trade for garza and sign fielder. Why waste 110 mil when you could of sat a year until he hits FA and offer him 90 mil and sign him them

    • nestleraisinets 4 years ago

      because more changes that he will not sign with the Rangers if he will be a FA. 

      Rangers want him that badly and they should pay the price

  70. Leonard Washington 4 years ago

    Mystery is always involved in these posting obviously but at the parameters that are being alleged it seems fair for Texas. The guy wants to see if he can swing another pay day after this deal is done so if he can meet the alleged criteria power to him. If he reaches those bench marks throughout the contract he probably was quite the bargain. By then Texas might not need him, or someone else might be available anyway so its not exactly a loss to have to give him that contract language to possibly prevent the 6th year. I very strongly doubt he repeats those godly ERA years he had in Japan, especially because its the American league and its Texas. I do expect some bumps as well, but even still with his repretoir and frame I could see him striking out 200 batters with a respectable ERA. 

  71. fitz 4 years ago

    Anybody know how hot it gets in Japan? I wonder how he will handle pitching in those 110 degree days in Arlington. 

  72. Pujols and CJ are WAY TOO MUCH over paid..

  73. MB923 4 years ago

    Cowboys #1? No. They are actually #5. It’s ManU, Yankees, Lakers, Real Madrid and then Cowboys.

  74. MB923 4 years ago

    Darn you Disqus.

  75. I still think $100MM is a lot to commit to a guy who’s never thrown a pitch. Realistically, you’re probably getting somebody who’s better than league average but not a superstar. More money is tied up in him than Roy Halladay. I don’t get it.

    • Stark2k 4 years ago

      Roy Halladay wasn’t a free agent.  The Phillies gave up significant value to get him beyond the dollars, although Drabek looks like a bust.

      Bottom line: the age 25-31 season of an ace caliber pitcher is probably the #1 commodity in baseball.  The Rangers scouted Darvish extremely heavily, and decided on their own that he had the talent and makeup to be that kind of guy.  With the rangers evaluation of Darvish, 6/110 is not unreasonable at all.  Is their evaluation correct?  We’ll see, but if you watched one of his complete Japanese starts you wouldn’t just be ruling him probably a bit above league average.

  76. May 10-13 Angles @ Texas. Hopefully Yu pitches against Wilson. 

  77. I have a feeling Fielder ends up in Detroit. I doubt the Tigers could get him without a no trade clause. Just picture the Tigers this season if Cabby should get hurt too. You have basically no offense at all. I love V-Mart, I really do, but who would you rather have hitting behind Cabby, V-Mart or Fielder. If V-Mart does come back in 2013, just think what the Tigers could get for Cabby in a trade!

  78. JohnnyX77 4 years ago

    with the posting fee, it is going to be interesting to see if yu is worth all this money.  I am interested in seeing him pitch this year. 

    Spring training and openning day can’t come soon enough. 29 days tills Phillies spring training starts.

  79. Toadkiller 4 years ago

    Am I missing something?  Is $10 mil a year too much to take a chance on Yu?  The $51 million posting fee will have been earned back with the million new merchandise buying fans in Japan before Yu probably even hits the field.  Even with revenue sharing the Rangers made money by signing Yu. 

    • Not necessarily. My understanding is that the Rangers organization will see very little of the Darvish merchandise $$$ and international television $$$. Not nearly enough to recoup the posting fee, even with new in-park Japanese advertising.

  80. neoncactus 4 years ago

    What I found interesting is the first year salary of $5.5 million.  So they could potentially sign Fielder this year and then after this year, either let Hamilton go, or re-sign him and clear up money by trading Cruz, Murphy or Young.  At the same time, they have to lock up Kinsler and Napoli also.

  81. What’s the big deal with the ball? Based on my reading, the baseball used in NPB and in MLB are basically the same size. Does anyone have any circumference/weight dimensions for the two different baseballs?

  82. chico65 4 years ago

    Yu were blindsided by this too?

  83. chico65 4 years ago

    Spoken like a true Yankees fan

  84. gnats 4 years ago

     Says the team that hasn’t made it the last 2 years.

  85. Madman2TX 4 years ago

    They’ll win one before the Yankees ever do again.

  86. leachim2 4 years ago

    Says Yu.

  87. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Well good luck losing in the ALDS again this year.

  88. RocknRollFan77 4 years ago

    Neither will your Yank Me’s!

  89. MB923 4 years ago

    I’m not defending his comments by any means, but you’re speaking as if the Rangers have championship experience. The facts remain, you are still without a title. So I think we should all hold back on guaranteeing who will win one before who. Of the 2 teams, the Rangers last made the WS, the Yankees last won the WS.

  90. dont count your chickens on that one buddy! Rangers still have to figure out how to finish a world series before claiming that they will win one before the yankees every do again.

  91. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Based on your opinion. Look, both good teams, but let’s get past this “my dad can beat your dad” stuff.

    BUT..until you walk in our shoes and actually do something, stay humble. 

  92. MB923 4 years ago

    What a long drought that is.

  93. MB923 4 years ago

    What a long drought that is.

  94. MB923 4 years ago

    Says the fan of a team that has never made it ever (assuming you’re a Nats fan that is). If you’re not, forgive me on that one.

  95. chico65 4 years ago

    Oh, they have championship experience all right.  Experience losing championships.

  96. nelson cruz misread the ball….

  97. redsx968 4 years ago

    As much as I don’t like the Yankees, every other fan base makes themselves looking like idiots trying to diss the Yanks. “Rangers made it more recently than the Yanks! HA!” “Have fun making the playoffs again and losing! LOL!” The Yankees are a fantastic team. As I’ve heard time and time again, kiss the rings. 

  98. MB923 4 years ago

    And good luck losing in the WS again

  99. MB923 4 years ago

    And good luck losing in the WS again

  100. We didn’t lose in the ALDS. Its called the World Series.

  101. thekoshow 4 years ago

    Go Rockies.

  102. MB923 4 years ago

    Yu better watch out, Yu better not cry. 

  103. MB923 4 years ago

    Yu better watch out, Yu better not cry. 

  104. MB923 4 years ago

    Must have took Yu all night for that.

  105. your rangers are almost as big of a playoff bust as the buffalo bills. make it two more world series and lose em both and you will be right there with the bills.

  106. Stark2k 4 years ago

    Obviously his homerun rate will go up a lot in the MLB in Arlington, but hes not a guy who gives up homeruns so its not going to exploit a weakness or anything.. just be something he has to deal with.

  107. Tko11 4 years ago

    Waited for what? If he didnt sign, he would lose a year in the majors. He gets his money either way now that he signed and in the end I assume thats the biggest factor for him coming over. 

  108. LanceKlein 4 years ago

    There’s no such thing as press in Texas…

  109. Casor_Greener 4 years ago

    I’m sure you were alive to witness all 27….

  110. Disgustedfan 4 years ago

    Nobody likes the yankees and their arrogant fans. Especialy trolls like yourself.

  111. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Wow, try reading the conversation again.

  112. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    Hmmmm… Losing in the ALDS, or playing in a 3rd World Series in 3 seasons. I’ll take the World Series.

  113. Sorry, misread the commenter. I thought it was someone trying to attack the Rangers. Disregard that comment.

  114. tdot32 4 years ago

    2001 world series ring a bell?

  115. You’re an embarrassment.  I’m proud of the Yankees and like the moves they have made thus far, but it never helps to talk crap BEFORE the season even begins.  Rangers have a good team, show some respect.

    Then people wonder why us Yankee fans get a bad rep. Oh and they had a pretty good World Series and that Game 6 was freaking EPIC.

  116. At least, the Rangers were in the world series…..

  117. oz10 4 years ago

    your team choked in the first round…….

  118. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    So is Texas.

  119. Andy 4 years ago

    Yes. If nothing else, didn’t 2011 teach us that anything is possible? Last day of the season alone did. Nobody knows what’ll happen.

    Pineda should do well for NY, and Darvish should do well for Texas. It should be an exciting year. Looking forward to it.

  120. yu dont who will win crazy kid

  121. oz10 4 years ago

    Stop it, both of yu.

  122. These Yu jokes are getting annoying.

  123. MB923 4 years ago

    ^This

  124. oz10 4 years ago

    Thank you John. You have had several Yanks fans today making you guys look bad.

  125. Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

    This man is a good man.

  126. MB923 4 years ago

    Well hey when you win all those titles, a choke or 2 is to happen at some point :p

  127. vtadave 4 years ago

    Yu bet they are.

  128. MB923 4 years ago

    Yu serious?

  129. MB923 4 years ago

    Agreed. Let’s hope for a good upcoming season.

  130. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Really? Not bashing at all, just curious.

    Are you ready to say that Yu will ABSOLUTELY be better than Darvish? 

    Meanwhile, the Angels won what, 85-90 games and just added Wilson, Pujols and will probably have Morales for most of 2012 or be able to trade him (or someone) to add another piece probably?

  131. tdot32 4 years ago

    the 20’s and 30’s can hardly be called competitive by today’s standards. today’s game has some of the better players from all around the world; they wouldn’t even allow black players to play in the 20’s and 30’s.

  132. Stark2k 4 years ago

    Lose division by 10 games two years in a row, their division to lose the next.  Lol.  The two rosters as they stand hardly scream “Angels to lose”.

  133. kurtits 4 years ago

    sorry dude, out of the top  7 AL offensive teams (runs scored) there are 4 AL east teams (1st, 2nd, 5th, and 7th respectably)(and only texas was top 7), and of the top 4 AL pitching (team era) two are from the AL east (while two are from the AL west). AL west two worst teams are Seattle and Oakland, while the two worst in the east are Toronto and Baltimore. I’d still rather play in the AL west than east.

    Lol pretty pointless to type this up tho, I got bored

  134. I think it’s the reigning AL Champs to lose.

  135. Tired_OF_FakeRumors 4 years ago

    Well they signed arguably the best player of the game. And the ACE of the Rangers.

  136. tdot32 4 years ago

    who’s to say the rangers won’t win a fair amount of titles themselves in the future?

  137. MB923 4 years ago

    I never said they weren’t going to.

  138. slider32 4 years ago

    Darvish looks great on tape, but he still is a small gamble not ever pitching in the states.

  139. Stark2k 4 years ago

    The Rangers were +178 runs last year to the Angels +34.  Thats a huge gap.  Albert and CJ certainly help a lot, and they upgraded catcher quite a bit… but if you simply look at the rosters side by side its a stretch to say the Angels are better yet alone enough so to make it their division to lose.

    Then if the Rangers still add Fielder or anyone else significant….

  140. oz10 4 years ago

    STOP CALLING CJ A FREAKING ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. ouch the bills… thats football.. different sport

  142. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    wow that was a brutal comparison dude. kid gloves are off.

  143. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    No.

  144. what?

  145. cardsfan209 4 years ago

    No disrespect to you or any angels fans but the Rangers have made it to the world series 2 yrs in a row. I think even though they only have added Yu, they are still the favorites. Btw i hope you enjoy Albert Pujols. He’ll always be my favorite player even though he banished the Cardinals for the Angels

  146. Disgustedfan 4 years ago

    WOW Iannetta and Hawkins the baseball world trembles in fear.

  147. oz10 4 years ago

    We also signed Joe Nathan who showed in the last half of last year that he is healthy.

  148. tdot32 4 years ago

    right, but yanks12025 did, so i was trying to get my point across to him that even his own team has choked in the world series, but it doesn’t mean that they won’t be able to win the world series this year.

  149. MB923 4 years ago

    And Bill Buckner did that once too.

  150. MB923 4 years ago

    Shame on yu for interrupting. 

  151. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    do you feel better about yourself when you say things like this?

  152. oz10 4 years ago

    ummmm, 4th largest media market…………

  153. oz10 4 years ago

    We will gladly let you pay 17mil for a # three starter. lol Good luck with him. He will rock you gently into a false sense of calm before crushing your heart.

  154. You also forgot that almighty Astros..

  155. oz10 4 years ago

    At least you are already accepting being the wild card.

  156. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    True about the absence of Negro players but bottom line is, there were about 16 teams back then which means the talent wasn’t AS diluted now. 

  157. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Not all Yankee fans are arrogant but I bet the Yanks are both the most loved and the most hated team in SPORTS not just baseball. 

  158. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    In the world of baseball, 2 years is a blip on the radar. Anyone remember how good the Astros were in the late 90’s? How dominant the M’s and Indians were in the mid 90’s? The Brewers in the early 80’s? Exactly, not many outside of those cities. 

    In the context of 130 years of baseball history, those teams are the equivalent to “remember that fat girl, on the 2nd floor of our dorm, who was roommates with that chick Samantha? You know she did that thing with her tongue?” I mean you remember them….but not really.

  159. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    That’s like being proud that you got to third base with a Victoria Secrets model but couldn’t “perform” and didn’t squeeze one off. Yeah, I mean I GUESS, you can be proud you got that far, but you really shouldn’t brag about it.

  160. nyr4life 4 years ago

    your not gettin there this year,chief

  161. nyr4life 4 years ago

    your not gettin there this year,chief

  162. Yankees420 4 years ago

    Unfortunately, that comes with the territory.  

  163. Drew Tweedie 4 years ago

    Or conversely, that there were less playing spots available for all the talent.

  164. Yankees420 4 years ago

    Twice? And within 2 minutes of each other?

  165. MB923 4 years ago

    Yu mad?

    Jokes aside , who said my feelings were hurt about what someone on the internet says about the Yankees?

  166. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    How? They just replaced the only major loss they had (CJ).

  167. Whatever makes you feel better.

  168. Yankees420 4 years ago

    It’s gonna be hard for Yu to be better than Darvish, he’s tough competition…. 

  169. Casor_Greener 4 years ago

    naw probably Cowboys

  170. MB923 4 years ago

    Lakers too

  171. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    More countries play baseball than football (or at least what American’s call football as opposed to soccer).

  172. Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

    Yup. Worldwide it’s Cowboys, MannU, and then Yankees.

  173. nicolasville96 4 years ago

    And we will gladly let you pay over 101 million for a player who has never thrown a major league pitch. Good luck with him.

  174. 12DenoEbel12 4 years ago

    no he’s not Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, or Justin Verlander, but on his team he was the ace, therefore called an ace

  175. Angels fans didn’t consider CJ an ace until the day he signed with them.

  176. Oliver was a situational lefty. And give me a break with the bragging of the signings of Iannetta and Hawkins lol.

  177. oz10 4 years ago

    we lost him to a noncontender and will be adding Ogando to the pen so we are actually stronger in the pen. Oliver is good but not worth the $4.5mil (says the guy who is happy that we just signed an unproven player to a $111 mil total deal) Had to poke a little fun at what could be construed as absurd.

  178. Congrats on slightly upgrading an extreme weakness to just a weakness.

  179. lol as a “fan” you should care about what your players are getting paid. It’s what’s going to cripple your team in the coming years.

  180. lol as a “fan” you should care about what your players are getting paid. It’s what’s going to cripple your team in the coming years.

  181. *you’re

  182. No, it’s more like we didn’t pull out.

  183. Kurisu Rg 4 years ago

    I’ll tell you where you went wrong: Trying to get your point across to a homer yankees fan.

  184. Watashiwa naaigaeshi mas Joe des

  185. these yu jokes suck

  186. MB923 4 years ago

    I’m sure you not referring to me because I am not being a homer anywhere. Then agian, Yankee fans aren’t the only fans who have homers, but since they probably have the most fans in baseball, they probably have the most homer fans too.

  187. MB923 4 years ago

    Losing a series isn’t necessarily choking.

  188. chico65 4 years ago

    I don’t think he was.  tdot responded initially to yanks-whatever, an obvious homer.  You’re one of the better ones on here (along with East Coast Bias, Yanksfansince78, 420, and a few others) .  The homers sure are coming out of the woodwork though.

  189. chico65 4 years ago

    Go ahead, I know you’re just dying to say it…

    …coughing up a 9-game lead to make it to the playoffs is

  190. oz10 4 years ago

    It was in reply to yanks12025 and not the Yanks in general. He was being an annoying troll. The Yanks have nothing to be ashamed of but after losing our first 3 trips to the post season to the Yanks and winning a combined 1 game during those three trips there is a certain level of wanting to beat the Yankees that Rangers fans hold dear. The Yankees as a whole get beat up for being as good as they are and I can understand the hatred as we feel it as Cowboys fans.

  191. MB923 4 years ago

    That didn’t even come to mind actually, therefore you said it not me lol.

  192. chico65 4 years ago

    A merciful Yanks fan?  You are a rare breed.

    That being said, one series in 2004 proved to be quite the choke job.

  193. MB923 4 years ago

    I have no denial 2004 was a choke, but as I said when you win a bunch of titles and make it to the playoffs a bunch of times, every team shoudl expect a choke at 1 point in another.

    Look at the city of Boston the last 10 years. Every professional team has won a title but every one of those teams has also choked one way or another.

    Red Sox 2011 choke

    Patriots 07/08 Super Bowl

    Boston Bruins blew 3-0 lead just like the Yankees

    Boston Celtics blew a 14 point 2nd half lead in Game 7

    Combined, they have 7 championships. If I was to tell you you would have more championships the last 10 years than chokes, would you take it? I certainly would.

  194. chico65 4 years ago

    No arguments there.  At least they’ve been playing for something.  Can’t say the same about the Mets, Knicks, Rangers, or Islanders.  I hope those other NYC area clubs get it turned around in time for some more epic playoff clashes before our teams cycle back down (C’s are looking old, Timmy too recently- thank god for Tuukka). 

  195. oz10 4 years ago

    I will take Napoli and Darvish for 30 a year over CJ and Wells for 38.

  196. Rangersfan32 4 years ago

    You won’t be calling CJ a “monster” when he bails once September rolls around.

  197. Weaver took way less than he could have received on the open market to go ahead and get locked up. You can’t compare that to a guy that has no ties to Texas, therefor giving no discount. That’s a dumb arguement. Also, what y’all are paying Haren is what he was paid by Arizona. He will be gone once he hits FA.
    I wouldn’t really call Santana a “monster” either.

  198. You’re right, we’ll be calling him our no. 3.

  199. Stark2k 4 years ago

    What is 2.29 supposed to be?  Hes replacing Feliz, who was 2.76. 

    Last year was the only year in his career Nathan had an ERA over 3 as a reliever, often under 2…  and he looked like he was rounding back into form.  He has probably lost a step, but he could definitely replace what Feliz did last year.

    Its quite unlikely Darvish beats CJ’s 2011, but it was very unlikely CJ would match it himself.  Or will as an Angel.  Going forward Darvish could definitely have better stats than CJ. 

    And the Rangers two deadline relievers will be here for an entire year.

    Rangers as of now are at worst equal to last year. Angels are obviously significantly improved, but they finished 10 games back in consecutive years and have more players on the decline than the Rangers so they had to significantly improve to get on the Rangers level.

    Now, if the Rangers get Fielder…

  200. MB923 4 years ago

    The Islanders and Mets struggles don’t bother me at all. Rangers are a 1st place team as of now, and the Giants are a win away from the Super Bowl. Hope to see a Super Bowl 42 rematch (with the same result lol)

  201. How did that work out for them?

  202. Daniel 4 years ago

    The whole time I was doing it I knew I was going to forget.

    So that means a deficit of 10.55 for Darvish to make up.

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