Marlins In Lead For Cespedes, Cubs Focused On Soler

The Marlins are exchanging contract figures with 26-year-old Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes, and two National League sources tell MLB.com's Joe Frisaro that the Cubs are no longer seriously in the mix. Chicago has apparently shifted its focus to 19-year-old Cuban outfielder Jorge Soler, though he is not yet eligible for free agency.

Upon his recent visit to Miami, the Marlins made Cespedes an offer that was initially reported to exceed $40MM. That number has since been denied, and Frisaro confirms that the offer was under $40MM, saying the Fish are comfortable with a number in the $30-35MM range.

The Cubs, meanwhile, are willing to spend as much as $27.5MM to land Soler, though Frisaro's sources are unclear on the number of years they'd offer. New Cubs president Theo Epstein and GM Jed Hoyer have already made one significant international splash this offseason, signing 18-year-old Cuban Gerardo Concepcion to a $7MM contract with another million dollars of incentives.


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134 Comments on "Marlins In Lead For Cespedes, Cubs Focused On Soler"


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baseball52
3 years 4 months ago

Jorge looks like a stellar player. Hopefully, he can sign soon.

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3 years 4 months ago

The Cubs would be doing the smart thing by going after Soler instead. Higher ceiling and a lot younger.

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LordD99
3 years 4 months ago

He’s younger, which means he has more time to adjust to pro ball in the States than Cespedes, but questionable if he has a higher ceiling.

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Snoochies8
3 years 4 months ago

a’s, whatEVER it takes, sign soler. by any means necessary!

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green_and_gold
3 years 4 months ago

I really hope the A’s can swoop in and get Soler.  I hope that they can sell him on the farm system and how things will look as a whole for when he is MLB ready.  

The A’s desperately needs bats in the farm system.  They are stacked with pitching prospects, but not nearly enough offense…where have I heard that one before?

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

So the A’s are becoming the Giants across the bay. But hey, the Giants won a WS two years ago with mostly pitching and lucky at-bats from Cody Ross, so…

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Snoochies8
3 years 4 months ago

the a’s went for lucky at bats from josh willingham and david dejesus last year, and that backfired (to put it lightly)

now, for the most part, they’re looking to build their outfield from within (reddick being the exception, if he can stick, with seth smith being traded off if he performs well and a contending team is desperate this year or next)

a future outfield containing green, choice, reddick, and soler looks quite appealing.

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

Also looks like it has four outfielders

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Snoochies8
3 years 4 months ago

HAHA i know, meant green on the bench or platooning with one of the others

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3 years 4 months ago

to everyone saying he wouldnt sign with miami what you gotta say now?

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inleylandwetrust
3 years 4 months ago

Thank god 

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GOTIGERS24
3 years 4 months ago

Did he sign with them? Last time I checked this was a report and not a done deal. and if you think 30-35 million over 6 years is going to land him your dreaming hes looking at upwards of 50 million. Unless the marlins offer another contract I don’t see them getting him

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$1529282
3 years 4 months ago

Sure he’s looking for it, but if he doesn’t get that offer in another couple weeks, and $35M is what’s on the table, you better believe he takes it. That’s still an ENORMOUS amount of money. He’s not going to hold out until midseason and wait for $50M.

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GOTIGERS24
3 years 4 months ago

I’m not saying he will get it but that’s what he is looking for I see him getting 40-45 million, if he signs with Miami he will try to pry out every penny he can get from them, I just dont see him getting less than 40.

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3 years 4 months ago

unless the marlins bid against themselves right now, he can sit and wait as long as he wants…

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Ptk123
3 years 4 months ago

The season is a little more than a month and a half away. He can sit,wait, and eventually be watching.

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3 years 4 months ago

Exactly

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3 years 4 months ago

there arent other suitors out there for him to start besides the Cubs and Orioles. So he is going to have to settle for less than 50-60 million so him earning 6 million per year is that big of a risk.

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thekoshow
3 years 4 months ago

Miami is making a big mistake.

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3 years 4 months ago

Its a mistake worth making here in Miami Idk if your from Miami or not bro but I am and I know for a fact man you bring a cuban here the support for him will be through the roof. And also we love headlines here in Miami so getting all these big names make fans want to buy tickets jersey’s etc so its worth it.

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Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

So, people in Miami will support the Cuban, yet they haven’t supported their team for..  how many years now?

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3 years 4 months ago

tv ratings are in the top percentage.  we support the team.  there are a lot of variables for the stadium not being filled.  i have been rained out of multiple games, sat in 95 degree stands, etc.  the new park will have no rain outs, no heat, and a better view of the game.  

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

so you’re saying they don’t need to sign a cuban in order to attract more fans?

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

You’re saying the Yankees didn’t need to sign CC to attract more fans? The Red Sox didn’t need to sign A-Gon to attract more fans? The Cubs, well, they can sign pretty much anyone and still keep fans. You’re saying the Angels didn’t need to sign Pujols to attract more fans?

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

Those are all good players, who help their team win..

how is that comparable to Cespedes?

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3 years 4 months ago

How is not signing a player popular to the region a plus

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

It is a plus.. if the player is good.

simply signing a cuban, japanese or any other non american player isn’t enough to raise ticket sales, atleast past his first game.

Ichiro has a solid following of japanese fans across the league because he is awesome and japanese, not just because he is japanese. 

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Snoochies8
3 years 4 months ago

hideki matsui from last year agrees with your statement

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jigokusabre
3 years 4 months ago

 Not showing up to a ****hole stadium is not the same as not supporting your team. Just ask Twins/Mariners/Giants fans.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

you signed jose reyes, mark buerhle and heath bell..

and you think some mid 20’s cuban kid that most people have never even seen play is going to attract jersey and ticket sales?

 

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3 years 4 months ago

yes

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

solid argument, I concede 

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3 years 4 months ago

dont get me wrong reyes, bell and buerhle will make fans happpy. But when you can relate to the player like cubans would with cespedes its something special. You see he wont just be cheered he will be beloved in Miami.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

I fail to acknowledge that a persons nationality means anything until they prove to be a good player on the field.

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3 years 4 months ago

well us here in Miami are like that bro.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

no you’re not

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Will M
3 years 4 months ago

Dude, it’s like Jeremy Lin. He had an asian-american following even before he broke out this past week. Miami literally consists of 70% Cuban-Americans; the majority of which are sympathetic to Cubans leaving Cuba and trying to re-establish their lives in America, like many of their families have. They would be at least “excited” that the Fish signed a Cuban player that they can empathize with. 

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

 you just proved my point..
how many people were following Jeremy Lin when he was a bench player?

he has to prove something on the court first. No one is going to games as an asian american, with signs and jerseys for some guy who sits on the bench .

like c’mon seriously, this isn’t even an argument.

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3 years 4 months ago

Wasn’t arguing, just answered your question. For some reason Cespedes is super popular here (Cuban connection), and that’s just the way it is. Personally, I think I’d stay with boni and save the money. I’m ecstatic with the offseason as is for the marlins.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

agreed, it was nice to have to have them invest in the on field product . should be an exciting year for miami 

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

Reyes caused season ticket sales to spike. Buerhle and Bell are there to make it a winning team.

Cespedes will almost certainly start in the minors. If ticket sales start slipping mid-season, they can bring him back up for an instant boost. If he makes an immediate impact the way Stanton did when he came up, the jerseys will fly off the shelves in Little Havana.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

jersey sales are shared.

winning is the best solution for increasing ticket sales. regardless of nationality.

how you can’t see this is beyond me

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3 years 4 months ago

Agreed, but you included jersey sales in your original statement. That’s probably why he included that in his argument.

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LordD99
3 years 4 months ago

Revenue from jersey sales sold regionally go almost entirely to the team.  If someone buys a Joe Mauer jersey in Minnesota, it’s the Twins who realize the gain.  If a Mauer jersey is sold in another market, then there is a split.  Yet the bulk of all jersey sales are regional, meaning the Marlins are the ones who will profit from Cespedes.  Makes sense, since they’re the ones paying for and marketing him.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

pretty sure thats false. 

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TyMxx
3 years 4 months ago

The support wont be there for long if he doesn’t produce. Marlin fans aren’t exactly known for sticking it with their team  threw thick and thin. 

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

Yeah, the Cubans will love the Cespedes signing, but the amount of hate for a white guy like Logan Morrison is unbelievable. Maybe if he learns Spanish you’ll like him a little more.

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3 years 4 months ago

Huh? Lomo is loved down here.

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LordD99
3 years 4 months ago

Those who said he wouldn’t sign with Miami were right.  He didn’t.

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BitLocker
3 years 4 months ago

I would rather get the 19 year old then the 26 year old. I’ve seen his video and Cespedes swing is terrible.

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$1529282
3 years 4 months ago

Yeah it’s so terrible that dozens and dozens of MLB scouts that are paid to analyze swings (rather than comment about them on blogs) have told their teams to bid tens of millions of dollars to win his services.

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BlueCatuli
3 years 4 months ago

And all of them say his hit tool is his weakest.

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BitLocker
3 years 4 months ago

 Actually they are saying he can’t hit off-speed pitches. The reason why he’s hyped up was the workout video and him running a 100 meter dash. Again, by the time he becomes MLB ready and adjust to the MLB he’d already be nearing 30. I’d rather get the 19 year old and hopefully he’ll be ready by the time he’s 25.

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GOTIGERS24
3 years 4 months ago

Have you seen him hit off-speed pitches? Reports are saying that he can’t, but you can’t believe everything you hear.

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Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 4 months ago

Have you seen him hit off-speed pitches?

Nope, which would seem to agree with these scouts.

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3 years 4 months ago

 i’m not exactly sure how a scout would benefit from lying about his ability to hit offspeed pitches

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

credible scouts are the ones saying their is an issue with his swing, mechanics and pitch recognition..

if we don’t go off the word of professionals, then what do we go off of?

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GOTIGERS24
3 years 4 months ago

Then why would anybody give him anywheres close to 40 million if he can hit off speed pitches, cubans throw changeups and breaking balls too. Scouts are just saying he’s going to have trouble with curveballs like verlanders but then again who doesn’t have problems with that hence the MVP award.

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

Who says he’s going to get 40 million though? its all speculation at this point..

And they felt that he would have trouble with mlb quality breaking pitches, not just verlanders.

The reality is, that if he was a young prospect things can be learned.. but in many ways he’s a finished product.

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

“if we don’t go off the word of professionals, then what do we go off of?”

-Grady Fuson, moments before he was fired by Billy Beane

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Lunchbox45
3 years 4 months ago

comparing casual fans to professionals now are we?

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baseball52
3 years 4 months ago

God forbid people try to analyze things and come to conclusions on their own.

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rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

“I’ve seen his video and his mechanics are terrible.”

-Mariners scout passing on Tim Lincecum