Red Sox Close To Acquiring Marlon Byrd

2:23pm: The deal remains probable but timing issues remain, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter).  The Cubs are likely to pay most of Byrd's remaining $6.5MM salary and Red Sox pitcher Michael Bowden is in play.

2:19pm: The structure of Byrd's deal could help the Red Sox' payroll for luxury tax purposes, writes Alex Speier of WEEI.com. If the Cubs sent $5.5MM to Boston to offset the outfielder's salary, then it would actually decrease the Red Sox' payroll number that sum would be subtracted from Byrd's $5MM average annual salary.

The veteran is set to earn $6.5MM in the final year of a three-year, $15MM deal.

1:34pm: Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine acknowledged to reporters that the club's talks with the Cubs are advanced, writes Scott Lauber of the Boston Herald“The talks have been good talks, from what I gather,” Valentine said. “Ben [Cherington] will try to get as good a player as he can get.”

12:17pm: The Cubs have been actively attempting to trade Byrd according to WEEI.com's Rob Bradford. A trade with the Red Sox is not final, but Bradford hears that it is "probable." Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter) that Boston has looked at other outfield options as well.

10:59am: The Red Sox are close to acquiring Marlon Byrd from the Cubs, reports Nick Cafardo of The Boston Globe. Boston has been actively exploring the outfield market following Jacoby Ellsbury's shoulder injury.

Byrd, 34, has just three singles and one walk in 47 plate appearances this season, resulting in a .070/.149/.070 batting line. He hit .276/.324/.395 in 482 plate appearances last season while missing time with multiple fractures after taking a pitch to the face, an injury that occurred in Fenway Park. Byrd is in the final season of his three-year, $15MM contract and will earn $6.5MM this year. He is not in Chicago's lineup this afternoon.

Ellsbury's subluxed his right shoulder last week and there is still not timetable for his return. Carl Crawford is also on the shelf with wrist and elbow problems, leaving the Red Sox with an outfield of Jason Repko, Ryan Sweeney, Cody Ross, and Darnell McDonald. Byrd has played center field exclusively during his time with the Cubs, though he has experience in all three outfield spots.

If completed, this will be the first real trade between the two teams since Theo Epstein left the Red Sox to take over as Chicago's president of baseball operations. The two sides did work out the compensation package for Epstein, however.


115 Responses to Red Sox Close To Acquiring Marlon Byrd Leave a Reply

  1. Collusion!

  2. chris_synan1 3 years ago

    he is not the answer….maybe we can throw Starlin Castro in that deal 

    • Tyler 3 years ago

      ^ Probably the funniest joke Ive heard in a long time. Thanks for helping my weekend start off on a laugh. 

  3. That awkward moment when Marlon Byrd and Alfredo Aceves meet in the dugout…

  4. chico65 3 years ago

    Can’t say I’m a big fan of the move, but as long as nothing valuable goes back the other way I’m ok. I’d rather see Lin though.

    • Devern Hansack 3 years ago

      Free Lin!

      • johnsilver 3 years ago

         You are the man Davern and you post that enough?? Somebody will eventually take notice :-)

    • MaineSox 3 years ago

      My guess is Bowden is involved.  There has to be a reason he has gone through waivers yet, and my guess is they are trying to work out a trade, so I think this would probably be it.

      • cubs223425 3 years ago

        That’s a good observation, you might be right.

        • MaineSox 3 years ago

          Hearing it might be a left handed reliever +1.  Miller and Bowden maybe, with the Cubs picking up the majority of Byrd’s contract.  With Hill almost back I don’t see a need (or a roster spot) for Miller, and they would likely lose Bowden for nothing anyway (DFA’d).

          • johnsilver 3 years ago

            Miller + Bowden even would work. It would give Miller a job to boot, Hill will be back soon. Just hope it also means Thomas isn’t on the roster an extra day too long and the Cubs still pay most of his (Byrd’s) contract.

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            I’m guessing Thomas only has a job until Hill comes back.  And if they are getting two guys who can pitch for their ML team, right now, I would have to think that they would be picking up a big chunk of the salary.

  5. kevinfoley46 3 years ago

    You gotta be kidding me

  6. johnsilver 3 years ago

    This is out and out desperation.. Refuse to play Sweeney full time and won’t give Lin a chance, but stick with useless mcDonald and repco and now go out and look for old geezer Byrd? What major mistake is next?

    IF they had to get someone, why not someone who could actually be of use like crisp, rather than this washed up guy?

    I just hope if they do get him that Epstein pays 85% plus of his 6.5m and they send him nothing, cause that’s what he is worth.

    • baseball52 3 years ago

      No, that’s not what he’s worth, but thanks for trying.

    • melonis_rex 3 years ago

      Ryan Sweeney career v. LHP: .229/.301/.284  .586 OPS
      Darnell McDonald career v. LHP: .277/.340/.437 .777 OPS

      That’s almost a 200 point difference in OPS.

      Career stats are far more relevant than 15 games in 2012.

      Sweeney should almost never see PAs vs. LHP and rightfully belongs on the bench against them.

      • johnsilver 3 years ago

         Darnell McDonald flat out doesn’t belong on a MLB team period is the difference, along with Jason Repco.

        What you handily left out is that Sweeney can play very good defense and mcDonald is pathetic.

        • InLeylandWeTrust 3 years ago

          MacDime*

        • melonis_rex 3 years ago

          in an ideal situation with ellsbury/crawford healthy, you’re right: repko and mcdonald should be cut.

          however, when your available options are ross, sweeney, mcdonald, repko, and lin, the best outfield you can put together with that bunch is Ross in LF, Lin in CF, and a Sweeney/McDonald platoon in RF with repko dfa.

  7. Bones 3 years ago

    Matt Garza, your up next!

  8. baseball52 3 years ago

    Oh Yea!!!! (kool-aid man style)

  9. chris_synan1 3 years ago

    More bad decision making by Ownership…..All they care about is money..and the best part is they know that people will keep going so they don’t have to make big moves…they made Fenway into an attraction to make money…I feel bad for Ben that he can’t spend

    • Tyler 3 years ago

      Im pretty sure they arent going to give a first time GM full signing ability when it comes to the checkbook. 

      • chris_synan1 3 years ago

        no, I just can’t believe Lucchino, Warner, and Henry stood there yesterday at the anniversary like everything was OK

        • Tyler 3 years ago

          They stand there like Tom Ricketts does and see’s all the suckers fill the seats no matter what kind of garbage they send out on to the field. All they see is $$$$$$

        • wolf9309 3 years ago

          did you expect them to not attend the anniversary because the team is playing terribly?

        • jwsox 3 years ago

          small sample size

    • MaineSox 3 years ago

       “All they care about is money”  That’s why they are trading for an overpaid backup outfielder?  Makes perfect sense.

      • chris_synan1 3 years ago

        no, they care about making money and they know they don’t have to make big moves because they know the seats will be filled everyday…

        • MaineSox 3 years ago

          They know they don’t need to make big moves because Crawford will be back in a couple weeks, and Ellsbury will be back in a few weeks after that.  They know they don’t want to make big moves at this point because it would take some serious talent to make them happen (their best prospects, the ones they are counting on later this year and next year to contribute here).  They know they can’t make big moves right now because those guys aren’t available right now.  They know they shouldn’t make big moves right now because you never know what those prospects might get you at the deadline, when more players become available.  They also know they shouldn’t make big moves right now because once players start coming back they wont have any place to play all of them, so the trade would have been a waste.

          • BoSoxSam 3 years ago

            And lastly, they know they shouldn’t make big moves cause you don’t want to be tied up money-wise for next offseason, when they will have a better chance to actually sign some players.

          • chris_synan1 3 years ago

            even if they had the Astros roster they still will have the seats filled…that’s what I mean

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            That’s fine, but that doesn’t say anything about the Red Sox ownership, that just speaks to the loyalty (or obliviousness) of the fans.  The Ownership hasn’t acted like (or taken advantage of the fact that) the fans would show up no matter what.

          • Dc21892 3 years ago

            Don’t count on Ellsbury being back so soon. His long term value supersedes his value in 2012.

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            6-8 weeks was the prognosis and if he’s deemed ready by then there’s no reason he wont be back.  If he’s ready it wont hurt his long term value.

          • elclashcombo 3 years ago

            Ellsbury and Boras will be the ones making the decision for his return; not that Sox. You can absolutely guarnatee that which is why I suspect his return to be longer than the projected 6-8 weeks.

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            First of all, the Red Sox and Ellsbury will decide when he comes back, and as far as Ellsbury and Boras are concerned the sooner he comes back the better.  He needs to show that he isn’t fragile, and last year wasn’t a fluke, so they want him out there playing, not sitting on the DL.  I’m sure Boras sees the dollar signs flying out the window every day Ellsbury sits on the bench not playing.

  10. chris_synan1 3 years ago

    they don’t need offense, they need starting pitching…Sweeney has been playing well, Ross is good in the outfield….what about Garza or Dempster

    • Tyler 3 years ago

      I’ve got a feeling the Cubs will be holding on to Garza. 

      • chris_synan1 3 years ago

        no crap, the red sox dont need bats they need pitching that’s all im sayin

        • MaineSox 3 years ago

          What they really need is for the players currently on the team to actually play the way they are capable of playing.

          • johnsilver 3 years ago

             Most relevant post here and to the point.

            That and some correct roster moves of players the team already possesses and they could.would be much better and you have to wonder who (Lucchino/Valentine/Cherrington??) is responsible for keeping people like Thomas and Repco on the roster at all while Bowden and Lin are not.

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            Yeah, I still don’t get Thomas being on the roster at all.  While I didn’t like the choice of Repko over Lin, it was at least defensible.  I also think Valentine’s in-game management has been absolutely terrible so far.

            But what it all boils down to is guys underperforming.  Youkilis is way better than he’s played so far, Pedroia is better than he’s played so far, Gonzalez is better than he’s palyed so far, Lester Beckett and Buchholz are all way better than they’ve play so far.  The only players who have played as well as they are capable of playing (or better in a couple of cases) are the role players/back ups, and Ortiz.

          • chris_synan1 3 years ago

            ya, I know lol

      • melonis_rex 3 years ago

        They’re not going to compete until after Garza hits free agency.

        If someone offers them a nice package, hands down they should trade him.

  11. DT Flush234 3 years ago

    Byrd hasn’t been the same ever sense he got hit on the head last season.

  12. BitLocker 3 years ago

    I guess any hard feelings for the Theo trade has been squashed already. 

  13. EarlyMorningBoxscore 3 years ago

    Troll Theo at it again…first he gets us to take an injured pitcher for him…now this….Ben needs to learn to just say no. 

    • chris_synan1 3 years ago

      we should give him Melancon and sign JD Drew to a big contract and trade Drew with him for payback

  14. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Thanks Disqus

  15. MaineSox 3 years ago

    What the eff

  16. LanceKlein 3 years ago

    Byrdman!!!

  17. Matt Manzella 3 years ago

    Not the Chicago team I expected them to be trading with.

  18. Cosmo3 3 years ago

    Jeez Theo, talk about selling low

  19. kevinfoley46 3 years ago

    He’s 3/43  and has 10 hitless games already. And April has historically been his best month. If this happens, I’m gonna be pretty angry.

  20. soxin10 3 years ago

    Sorry to say but I think Ben is no match for Theo. What, or whoever we send to the cubs for Byrd is a bad move. Byrd is hitting less than Repko or MacDonald, and Theo already took Ben to the cleaners once, why would Ben go back for more abuse.UNLESS, we send Lackey for Byrd plus 5 mil!!

  21. MB923 3 years ago

    Can he pitch?

    • Cosmo3 3 years ago

       If he could, he’d already be pitching for the Cubs

  22. imagine how bad byrd will be in the AL east

    • 1980CHAMPS 3 years ago

      Ughh that makes no sense.  Byrd isn’t a starting pitcher.  Virtually every hitter that plays in the AL East improves their numbers.

  23. Encarnacion's Parrot 3 years ago

    The real compensation for Epstein.

    • johnsilver 3 years ago

      HAHA. If that is the case and they just give up the DFA’d Bowden, plus the Cubbies even pay most of his salary? Boston still loses. LOL

  24. ugotrpk3113 3 years ago

    I’m fine with the trade. Byrd is so overrated it’s scary, but it will be nice to see someone not named Repko/McDonald starting…

    PS – Man will it be awkward with Aceves..

    • chris_synan1 3 years ago

      i like McDonald, he proved he can be a good player…Repko no

      • ugotrpk3113 3 years ago

        If McDonald was released tomorrow, I would celebrate. Preferably by throwing a ball in the air and then dropping it. It only seems right.

        • chris_synan1 3 years ago

          yeah….there are way better options in the minor league system

          • MaineSox 3 years ago

            Than McDonald? Yeah, there probably are.

  25. Dylan MacKinnon 3 years ago

    If Marlon Byrd is traded to the Red Sox does Brett Jackson get called up? 

  26. chris_synan1 3 years ago

    What’s next alfonso soriano

  27. Getting ugly already, they should have signed Byrd 2 years ago instead of Cameron, but it’s not enough of an upgrade over anyone they already have to give up anyone.

  28. sportsnut969 3 years ago

    WOW how the MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN boy look at the Red Sox now Byrd how laughable is that what the The Bloody Sox OOOOOOOO sorry the Red Sox are not even capable of obtaining a player who even has a sliver of talent left ROTFL.

    I guess they should have not traded all there better prospects away again ROTFL.

    • MaineSox 3 years ago

      Ridiculous.  The Red Sox have the talent to trade for a top outfielder, but they don’t have the need, and there wouldn’t be any available at this point in the season anyway.

      Not that I expect you to understand or accept anything I say…

      • lefty177 3 years ago

        ROTFL, agree with you though, where will he play when CC & Ells gets back? Bench or RF & have Ross on bench?

        • MaineSox 3 years ago

          There’s going to be a roster crunch in the OF come mid-season, that’s for sure.  Ellsbury in CF, and Crawford in LF are locks; that leaves Ross, Sweeney, Byrd (assuming the deal goes through), McDonald, and Kalish in AAA possibly/probably knocking at the door.  My guess is that the best OF would be Crawford, Ellsbury, Ross (or Kalish if he is healthy and playing well), the question becomes what do you do with the rest of them?

  29. MB923 3 years ago

    Guys, haven’t you heard, the word? 
    Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the word

  30. Who would be the centerfielder for the Cubs once Byrd leaves?!?!

  31. MaineSox 3 years ago

    ” If the Cubs sent $5.5MM to Boston to offset the outfielder’s salary,
    then it would actually decrease the Red Sox’ payroll number that sum
    would be subtracted from Byrd’s $5MM average annual salary.”

    Now this is starting to make sense.

  32. Poor Marlon. Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

  33. asovermann 3 years ago

    The deal is Byrd for Bowden and a PTBNL w/the Cubs eating most of Byrd’s salary.

  34. chris_synan1 3 years ago

    I would like this deal if they traded Youk

  35. Tyler 3 years ago

    We’ll gladly take Youk off your hands for Marlon Byrd. Get that deal done Theo!

  36.  Youk is going to be fine. He’s just off to a slow start. Valentine messing with him and pinch hitting for him a bunch isn’t helping anything either. I’ve never wished Gene Lamont were my manager more than now. (And I don’t want Lamont but compared to Bobby V, anybody is an improvement.)

  37. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Why do you want to get rid of Youkilis so bad?  You do realize that Youkilis has been one of the best hitters in the game the last four years, right?  And you do realize that he was one of the top 3 3rd basemen in the game last year despite missing over a month of the season, playing hurt, and not having played the position in several years, right?

  38. johnsilver 3 years ago

     What is your take on Byrd Maine? Sure, it’s an improvement over Laurel & Hardy currently on the roster, but if they end up having to pay him even half the 6.5m.. Do you see Boston giving them even a remote prospect back?

    I’d like to see Boston ship Bowden over and THEN Epstein pay almost all if they end up with him and I might be satisfied, or maybe give Epstein back McDonald…

  39. cubs223425 3 years ago

    Wait, what was he top-3 in? He was below-average defensively, and he was behind Longoria, Beltre, Sandoval, Young, and Ramirez offensively. Overall, of 3B with 400+ PAs, Youkilis was 6th in WAR.

  40. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Yeah, my guess is it’s Bowden (or at least Bowden is involved).  I’m not a huge fan of Marlon Byrd, but he’s considerably better than Jason Repko, so assuming the deal to get him is a reasonable one I’m okay with this going through.

    I’d like to see Lin on the team, and see what he can do, but Byrd is probably a better option for this year (again assuming the deal they make with Chicago is a reasonable one), Byrd wont be as good defensively as Lin, but he’ll be a better offensive player (especially for this year) and will be reasonable defensively.

  41. Cosmo3 3 years ago

     Byrd is a lot better than the way he’s playing now…and it’s kind of annoying that Theo is selling so low on him. He plays a solid center field, and is usually good for better than a .275 average with some pop and some speed. It looks like he’s been swinging the bat better lately too, just having some bad luck, so I expect his numbers to turn around soon. If you’re gonna get this guy, your ownership actually couldn’t have picked a better time to get him, as his value is at its lowest right now.

  42. Cosmo3 3 years ago

     Are you seriously quoting his numbers from the FIRST THREE WEEKS this season to indicate his value? That 3 yr $15 mil contract was actually a very good sign by Hendry, and Byrd has outplayed that over the course of his contract.

    You are correct, though, that his value will never be lower than it is right now.

  43. jb226 3 years ago

    Would that be the $15MM deal that that his performance earned in the first year alone?  He’s been worth $26.5MM the fist two years of the contract by FanGraphs.  If you think they overvalue defense, as I do, you can use B-R’s 4.2 WAR over the past two years for a value STILL in excess of his contract.

    Byrd is off to an undeniably bad start, but the reality is this was a good contract.

  44. BoSoxSam 3 years ago

    Lin doesn’t impress me, but if this losing streak continues for much longer, I wouldn’t mind seeing someone like him play. At least give the young guys some exposure if this is going to be a down year.

    The worst part about this year so far is not the team, or Valentine, or the front office, but the Boston media. I’ve had to even mute Don and Jerry a few times while watching the game cause I just don’t want to listen to more people freaking out from a few rumors or a few bad games. It may not be a great year for Boston, but the media has the opportunity to make it a terrible one.

  45. kevinfoley46 3 years ago

    While he’s not going to finish hitting .070, he’s not looking good and the past three years, April has been his best month. He currently 3rd worst in average ahead of only Rod Barajas and Pedro Alvarez (min 30 AB)

  46. Sour Bob 3 years ago

    Which part do you not understand : the unreliability of small sample sizes, Byrd’s history over the past few years as a 3 WAR+ OF… let me know and we’ll start there.

  47. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Defense.  Byrd is a considerably better defender than Darnell McDonald.

  48. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Lin’s offense isn’t going to impress anyone (ever), but he’s like the CF version of Iglesias defensively.  If you ever get a chance to watch him play the outfield it really is something to see.

  49. jwsox 3 years ago

    theo isnt selling low, this porbably has something to do with the theo thing in the first place it also opens up the roster spot for jackson, who is a vastly better player than byrd and people in chicago have been wanting to start for months ..

  50. Ptk123 3 years ago

    Really, have you been watching any cubs games? He is lucky if he hits it hard enough to only bounce twice to the SS or 2b.

  51. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Most prospect guys who have seen Jackson play agree that he isn’t ready for the big leagues yet, so I wouldn’t be sure that he ends up taking Byrd’s spot at this point, or that he will be all that much better right now if he does.

  52. melonis_rex 3 years ago

    He may or may not be selling low. If the OF market at the deadline is flooded, his early season deal may end up being better than what he could get at the deadline, even if Byrd is hitting to career averages then.

    (and, I doubt any GM takes 15 game sample sizes seriously).

  53. BoSoxSam 3 years ago

    Guess that’s why I don’t want to see him yet, then. With Ellsbury/Repko/Ross all rating pretty well defensively out there, bringing a young glove-only guy doesn’t seem to really be any improvement. Well, except over Repko, probably. Yeesh.

  54. jb226 3 years ago

    I agree.  I don’t think Jackson gets the call right now.  I think it will be Campana for the roster spot, with Reed Johnson getting most of the starts.

  55. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Well, I was going by WAR, but it wasn’t showing guys who didn’t play enough games at 3B to qualify there (not sure what the cutoff is to qualify though).  Didn’t notice that it cut out guys like Sandoval and A-Rod.

  56. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Ellsbury can’t play, and Repko and Ross do not rate pretty well in CF.  And from what I’ve seen Repko doesn’t hit much better than Lin either, so having him on the roster instead of Lin doesn’t make sense to me at all (unless it’s to get Lin consistent playing time because they still think he can make something of himself).

  57. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Even if you don’t consider Lester an Ace – he’s a top 10 pitcher over the last 4 years, and was a better pitcher than anyone in the Ranger’s staff over that time (Beckett and Buchholz were also better than anyone currently in the Ranger’s rotation over that time – obviously can’t say for sure about Ranger’s starters who weren’t in the big leagues/weren’t starters over that time) – but let’s pretend he’s only a #2 pitcher, the Red Sox still have three #2 pitchers (and Bard has the potential to be a fourth #2 according to Ben Badler of Baseball America).

    Youkilis is off to a poor start this year, but it’s WAAAY too small of a sample size to draw that ridiculous conclusion from – he was a top 15 overall player from ’08-’11 and a top 5 hitter in the game over that same period.  Yeah, clearly done after three weeks though.

    Gonzalez’s splits against most competitive teams are way too small to draw any sort of conclusion from, but he hasn’t hit terribly against the Yankees (3HR and 13 RBI in 22 games), Detroit (2HR and 6 RBI in 12 games), LAA (5HR and 19 RBI in 29 games), Tampa (4HR and 11 RBI in 29 games), and he has destroyed Texas and Philly (7HR and 13 RBI with a 1.057 OPS in 18 games against Tex, and 13HR and 29 RBI with a 1.075 OPS in 36 games against Philly).

    Crawford doesn’t need to be worth the contract to be a good player (and he was a great player in his time in Tampa), and Ellsbury may not hit 30 home runs again but you’ve got no reasonable explanation as to why he’s a “one and done” other than you irrationally want him to be because it fits your narrative.

  58. MaineSox 3 years ago

    There are plenty of guys in the system who are better defensively, but most of them either can’t hit at all (Lin) or aren’t ready for the majors.  I’m by no means excited for them to get Byrd, but it is a deal that makes sense, assuming they don’t give up a lot to get him.

  59. Ptk123 3 years ago

    Campana is already up, went in the game today.

  60. jb226 3 years ago

    Yeah, I saw that.  I guess it means they didn’t bring Wells up yet for Dempster (who went on the DL).  They must be pretty sure this trade is going to happen soon, they need that roster spot for the start tomorrow.

  61. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Well, as Speier says, under the right circumstances (and they are fairly likely circumstances) it will also actually reduce the amount of money they are charged toward the luxury tax, so it could actually give them more money to spend at the deadline.  And the chances are, it will be pieces that aren’t really going to help them anyway (I’m still guessing Bowden and Miller).

  62. Rangersalchamps 3 years ago

    Just admit this is a pretty bad team for 180mil. Beckett is inconsistent, Lester was nowhere to be found last Sept when the RS most needed him. Lester doesn’t strike me as a leader. Bucholz is a #4/5 on a good team. Your 4th and 5th starters leave much to be desired compared to other playoff caliber teams(Tex, Det, Angels, Rays).

    Bucholz is not a #2. In the one good year he had(2010?) he outpitched his stats by a wide margin.

    I still don’t understand how Pedroia is better than Kinsler? So far in their respective careers they are neck and neck in stats. Going forward I would take Ian. Pedroia has not sniffed 30 sb or 30 homerun and Kinsler has gone 30/30 twice. Kinsler is a wizard on D. Both play in hitter parks. Pedroia has all that coverage on the East coast.

  63. MaineSox 3 years ago

    Beckett has been the same pitcher every year since ’07 other than ’10, so I’d hardly call him inconsistent.  Buchholz has only had one full season in Boston, but he was the same pitcher to start last year (before he got injured) as he was in ’10 (his great year).  Lester not being a “leader” doesn’t mean anything, he’s a top ~10 pitcher.

    I never said anything about Pedroia being better than Kinsler, but now that you bring it up, there is a pretty good case to be made that he is.  Since 2008 he has been worth ~2 more WAR, has been a slightly better overall hitter (.374 wOBA vs .372 for Kinsler), and a considerably better fielder.  Kinsler definitely has more power, and runs better, but Pedroia’s OBP is ~20 points higher while his SLG is only 8 points lower.

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