AL East Notes: Yankees, Gonzalez, Red Sox

The Yankees topped the Mets last night 4-2 behind a solid showing from Phil Hughes.  Here's more on the Bombers and the AL East..


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johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

Typical Boston writer.. Trade the future for patchwork(rental SP) on a team that isn’t quite good enough.

Ban the Globe writer, or take away their typewriters for 2 weeks until they cease this nonsense.. They have lester and beckett, Bucholz looking better coming off of a 4H complete game shutout.. Don’t move the future (prospects) on 3 month rentals of Hamels/grienke…

Somebody wants Ellsbury? Send him along his merry way.. Tool up for next season and play this season as it was dealt…

NorthOf49
3 years 2 months ago

Who exactly are these prospects anyway? 

I don’t think a Middlebrooks/Bogaerts package would have been enough, and that would have completely gutted their entire farm system. The A’s wanted power arms, and the Red Sox don’t really have any.

Havok9120
3 years 2 months ago

 I guess Lava and Barnes would’ve been involved. Some combo of them all.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

I am guessing Middlebrooks would have been involved in a Gio trade. Beane has wanted him for at least 2 seasons.

There was talk of expanding the deal when boston got Bailey even.. Maybe they had talks earlier (before Gonzalez was moved) regarding a large package swap and beane, we can almost guarantee was after Middlebrooks and probably Ranaudo at that time to be included.

Edit:

Future prospects are numerous.. the lower (High A and down) is loaded with possible impact talent

Matt Barnes
Jackie Bradley
Brandon Jacobs
Garin cecchini

Just a few..They have many more..

NorthOf49
3 years 2 months ago

Those guys aren’t anywhere near the guys the A’s got from the Nationals, and they couldn’t have traded Bradley or Barnes in the offseason anyway.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 Exactly on people taken last season.. Way your post was worded sounded as who they had and they are 2 of the best.

Middlebrooks might be of quality, if not as good as anyone DC sent over and plays a position that has been a sore spot with Oakland for years..

Upper level is what Oakland was after.. Why they took Reddick in the Bailey deal.. The people Boston has at AAA right now is pretty much limited to Lavarnway and iglesias.. The brunt of the talent is at A ball, with only some in 2012 at AA

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

“Who exactly are these prospects anyway?”

According to Baseball Prospectus’ preseason 101 the Red Sox had 3 prospects better than anything the Athletics got for Gonzalez.  Bogaerts at 32, Jacobs at 46, and Middlebrooks at 55; AJ Cole was at 60, Peacock was at 64, Norris was at 96, and Milone wasn’t ranked.  So the problem wasn’t that the Sox didn’t have the talent, the problem was that Boston wasn’t willing to give Oakland what they were looking for (that should have been evident by the fact that there was a package suggested by the Athletics that Boston rejected).

NYPOTENCE
3 years 2 months ago

The Red Sox just don’t seem like the team that everyone fears anymore. Make no mistake about they could turn it around and prove everyone wrong but they should go out there trade and Youkilis for some prospects and set themselves up for the future instead of giving up the farm. 

ColonelBoston
3 years 2 months ago

It’s not that people don’t fear them (they do have 1/2 an All Star team on the DL). It’s that they have no heart & no identity — the Sox teams that won in 04 & 07 were all heart & carved out their own identities. This Sox team is just blah.

EdinsonPickle
3 years 2 months ago

Usually I don’t like these posts about teams not playing with heart since I think that any team in a playoff race (maybe with the exception of a maverick here and there) will be playing their butts off. With this comment though, I completely on board with you. I don’t know what it is, but I watch the Red Sox now and I see none of the fire in their play that existed in 2007 or 2004. I get the feeling of a last place team 40 games out just trying to play the season through. It’s really strange because they still have a good team even with some of the injuries they’ve suffered. 

Havok9120
3 years 2 months ago

They need to “land a number 1 starter”? Eh, wot?

I mean, even if you want to say Lester/Becket don’t truly fit the mold (and that argument CAN be made rather easily), who are they going to target. What No. 1 is available? Silly sportswriters are sill.

BradyAndersonsSideburns
3 years 2 months ago

 Seriously.  I’d take Lester over all but a handful of starters in the league.  That may be biased though since I have seen him completely own the O’s over his career.

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

Hopefully you have big hands, as there are quite a few SPs I’d take over Lester right now.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 He wrote was based on dominance vs a team..

At one time, Wake was like 25-3 vs the Rays, but nobody would have considered him the best SP in the league..

Lester does have the best W-L of any active SP over 50 starts, but he is not the best around, does dominate certain teams however.

3 years 2 months ago

Whats makes them think Grienke or hamels for that reason will come to boston and be a ACE. No way i would trade Middlebrooks for either when both are set to become a FREE AGENT. Ask Milwaukee if they would trade lowrie for marcum again?

grant77
3 years 2 months ago

Lol, how can you balk at a prospect haul you don’t even come close to having? The A’s likely just laughed and hung up when Boston inquired.

Fangaffes
3 years 2 months ago

“consistent Daisuke Matsuzaka”

oxymoron

EdinsonPickle
3 years 2 months ago

 I don’t know what that guy is talking about when he says they need a
consistent Daisuke. He’s one of the most consistent pitchers I’ve ever
seen. Who else will consistently nibble at the strike zone until he
loads the bases with walks AND THEN consistently fall apart and give up
several consecutive extra base hits?

When it comes down to it though, the Sox aren’t going to be getting any
help from anyone but themselves. They don’t have the prospects needed to
swing a Hamels or Marcum or Greinke deal, and even if they did, there’s
the debate as to whether or not they should trade those pieces for a
rental. The Sox and all of their writers need to face it, Beckett,
Lester, and Bucholz all need to improve and remain at a their expected
levels of performance. That’s the only way the Sox are going to have a
shot at punching their ticket to the PS.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

a few years ago*

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

He was dominant a few years ago, but the last two years he’s pitched more like a #2-3 starter than the #1 we (I) thought he was or would be.

PileOfSandwich
3 years 2 months ago

Oakland? 

rainyperez
3 years 2 months ago

The Giants? The Phillies? The Marlins? The Nationals? The Braves? 

Havok9120
3 years 2 months ago

 Heck, even the Yankees have managed to do well on that front recently.

Havok9120
3 years 2 months ago

 This. At this point, I fear Beckett again more than I do Lester. Significantly more. I would have never said that 2 or 3 years ago.

I think he’ll turn it around, but I’ve been thinking that for so long that its starting to look like I’m jumping at shadows.

Havok9120
3 years 2 months ago

Typo, he meant Brett Lawrie.