Blue Jays Remain In “Buy” Mode

Despite sitting in last place in the AL East and losing three starting pitchers to injury within the last week, the Blue Jays remain in "buy" mode according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Toronto is scouting the Major Leagues heavily and are in obvious need of pitching.

Kyle Drabek (Tommy John surgery), Brandon Morrow (oblique), and Drew Hutchison (elbow) all hit the disabled list recently, forcing the Jays to turn to Jesse Chavez and Joel Carreno for spot starts. They've recently spoken to the Rockies about Jeremy Guthrie and reportedly had someone on hand to watch Wandy Rodriguez's start last night.


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81 Comments on "Blue Jays Remain In “Buy” Mode"


john12121212
3 years 2 months ago

I’m getting tired of this cliche every year. Stop talking about it and do it!!

DerekJeterDan
3 years 2 months ago

 Last year the Blue Jays acquired Colby Rasmus and the year before that Yunel Escobar was brought in. Alex Anthopolus is one of the best GM’s in the game and know how to swing a deal. If they remain in buy mode, I’m sure he will bring in someone to help. The injuries that Toronto has had to go through in the rotation are severe, but it does show that you can never have too much starting pitching. Young arms like Hutchinson, Morrow especially, and Drebek are not a dime a dozen. The Jays will just have to wait it out until all are healthy again. Wandy Rodriguez would be a great get for Anthopolus and I can see him looking pretty neat in a Blue Jays uniform, forming a nice 1-2 lefty combination with Ricky Romero.

3 years 2 months ago

Livan can be had cheap…

ChefR
3 years 2 months ago

Losing pitchers to the DL? What better way to get rotation security than Guthrie?!

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

he’s not looking for an ace in guthrie. he’s looking for a #3 for the price of a #5

ChefR
3 years 2 months ago

 I’m talking about how fragile Guthrie is

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

??  Guthrie has pitched 200+ innings each of the last three years and 190 the year before that.

East Coast Bias
3 years 2 months ago

details details

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

but he did it really fragiley

ChefR
3 years 2 months ago

 oh hmph, I’m thinking of Bedard for some reason

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

That makes more sense.  I was thoroughly confused.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

made me squint

Runtime
3 years 2 months ago

Nevermind. I read your post wrong.

Liam Kearns
3 years 2 months ago

no point throwing away prospects for “innings eaters” like Guthrie. Makes absolutely no sense

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 months ago

It does if you’re not giving up anybody usefull. 

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

it also hasn’t been suggested. if guthrie is acquired, it’ll be for something less than “prospects”

a winning team is not made by one huge move but a series of small, smart ones. i mean you guys have heard of “buy low, sell high” before right? sometimes i wonder

Sniderlover
3 years 2 months ago

Sure it does, since they won’t cost you much and it saves your arms and saving the arms is kinda huge, whether that’s your veteran arms or young arms. Saving these arms will help out a lot in the long run as well.

If the price is asking for a legitimately good prospect, then obviously you just pass but if it’s some marginal prospect that won’t be much or might not even reach the major leagues? I’ll do that.

Guthrie salary and his performance doesn’t make him too desirable so he will pretty much bring back nothing.

NYPOTENCE
3 years 2 months ago

Blue Jays have not arrived yet.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

there’s too much of a gap between the onfield talent and the minor league talent. Especially with the arms.

jenkins and mcguire really set things back.

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

True, but I do like Marisnik and Gose, the latter of whom could contribute this year. Too bad their best arms are at the A-ball level – Syndergaard, Nolan, etc.

Morley C
3 years 2 months ago

 They have however arrived at a place called “needing pitching”.

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

do the Jay have any expendable high lvl prospects that Luhnow might bite at for Wandy. He will be in High demand at the trade deadline. The Yankees, Dodgers, Giants and Red Sox also had scouts watching Wandy pitch yesterday, and he pitched very well. Luhnow is a little smarter then Wade was.

johnsmith4
3 years 2 months ago

Blue Jays have some guys in AA who probably won’t find a spot on the 40-man roster next year and face first time exposure to the Rule 5 draft.

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

“A little”?

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 I was being nice :)

Kev
3 years 2 months ago

Grab a pitcher. Half, or nearly half, of the Jays top 10 prospects are pitchers. I’m not following their minor leagues, so I have no idea which ones are dong well or imploding, but if Luhnow can grab one of their top 5 pitchers and some organization filler, the Astros need to do it. If Luhnow can’t (and I’m skepical – interesting chess match between Luhnow and AA), then he needs to move on to some NL club that will hand over a legit pitching prospect (not some BoR, inning-eater ceiling guy) from their system. 

Roll Fizzlebeef
3 years 2 months ago

Wandy just doesn’t seem like an AA type of target. He’s due a good chunk money for a guy who probably doesn’t have much of a impact on the long term. That, and scouts are skeptical of him thriving in the AL.

I’m no expert, but I would guess an offer would probably be a couple of B-prospects with maybe a org guy thrown in. So, probably nobody in the top 5, but maybe one of them comes from the Top 20 area. This is all dependent on how much of Wandy’s contract Toronto has to eat, mind you.

formerdraftpick
3 years 2 months ago

I think the experiment with Chavez as a starter may work out in the long run.  He was looking pretty good at AAA as a starter earlier this year.  The last start was too small of a sample size to make a decision. Good luck Jess.

frank_costanza
3 years 2 months ago

Hamels for Gose!

CalgaryJaysFan
3 years 2 months ago

The Jays are not one mediocre pitcher away from contending.  Time to sell anyone who is coming up on free agency (Encarnacion, various bullpen pieces) and really tank this season in order to get a strong first round pick next year.  And let the auditions of Gose and d’Arnaud start asap. 

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

if you are going to do that, you might as well trade bautista too.

3 years 2 months ago

 Much better to try and re-sign E5. 

Morley C
3 years 2 months ago

 He doesn’t play 3rd base anymore dude.

mozelpuffski
3 years 2 months ago

great thing about nicknames: once you got it, it sticks. Forever will Edwin be E5, sorry dude.

Matthew Mueller
3 years 2 months ago

I have seen a lot of sell EE on the internet lately.  how about extending him just in case this new swing is legit a la Bautista a few years back.

3 years 2 months ago

Hmmmm, the Phils have 3 pitchers on this team that could interest some teams: Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee, and Joe Blanton. Halladay isn’t going anywhere, and Worley isn’t either. Blanton really wouldn’t get much back for the Phils. Lee could get a substantial return, it just depends on how much salary you eat up. The same goes with Hamels, but his problem is knowing whether he will sign an extension or not.

Morley C
3 years 2 months ago

 “A more realistic trade would be Hamels for Gose, McGuire, and D’ Arnuad?”

So…basically the Halladay package back to Philly?

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

For 2 months of Hamels, we only wish it was that easy….

iains
3 years 2 months ago

No team will trade for a high end impending free agent and give up anything like they did previously.  Since you can’t get any compensation for a player traded mid year, the only way a team will get anything significant in trade is if an extension is negotiated as a prerequisite to the trade.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

thats way more than the doc package.

Gose is a much better prospect now and darnaud is a much much better prospect

plus they are also both a lot closer

Wes Whitenack
3 years 2 months ago

I’d give them Millwood and League for a toolsy teenaged player.

3 years 2 months ago

Don’t think Millwood would be the answer, but the Jays certainly have lots of toolsy teeangers.

3 years 2 months ago

Jake Westbrook for Kelly Johnson 

brock golden
3 years 2 months ago

I wonder if Ross Detwiler could be had for Snider?  Nats have some pitching depth and good use some offense, seems like a good trading partner

3 years 2 months ago

no.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

i think Sniders back up with the big club within the week. he’s been on a power tear lately, usually the first sign the wrist is okay

3 years 2 months ago

I say the Blue Jays will be the ones who key in on Wandy . How does Wandy and Carlos Lee ( Maybe the Astros eat 6 Mill or so ) for Daniel Norris , Aaron Sanchez , Noah Snydergaard , and Drew Hutchison sound ?

Matt_P102
3 years 2 months ago

Sounds like the Blue Jays are getting ripped off.

3 years 2 months ago

Astros would have to eat literally all the money and stock the vending machines for the next 1000 years.

Steelslayer
3 years 2 months ago

How about adding in Lawrie and D’Arnaud with what you suggest…I am sure the Jays front office would go for it.

boxcar8
3 years 2 months ago

Not to mention that Drew Hutchison might be better than Wandy on his own.

mozelpuffski
3 years 2 months ago

drugs are bad for you…

iains
3 years 2 months ago

Hutchison’s trade value is nil right now.  You don’t trade injured players

3 years 2 months ago

 LOL please go dig a hole and put your head in it

3 years 2 months ago

The Blue Jays need an outfielder and Carlos Lee doesn’t sound like one of the sexier names out there , but he’s been there and he has the leadership to be able to guide a team .

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

“Outfielder” and “Carlos Lee” don’t belong together…

dassauIt
3 years 2 months ago

Matt GarzaGose,Syndergaard,Aaron Sanchez?

mozelpuffski
3 years 2 months ago

wont happen – drop gose and put in someone like sierra, drop sanchez for someone like mcguire, and maybe leave syndergaard in the equation.

3 years 2 months ago

inventing trade scenarios is fun.  1.5 years of Garza isn’t worth three big prospects. It’ll be one big prospect and two middling ones, if historical precedents mean anything.

3 years 2 months ago

 LOL doubt I’d trade any of those 3 let alone the latter 2 for Garza.

3 years 2 months ago

Gose is pretty much  untouchable unless an ace is coming back.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

same with d’arnaud…

if you move them too quick, then when an ace does become available you  blew your chance.

Gose, D’arnaud, if they go its for a bonafide ace… if we went a fringy starter JPA could bring it back.

boxcar8
3 years 2 months ago

Why would Gose be untouchable? His trade value is at an all time high, Rasmus is blocking him in Toronto and Marisnick is on the way. This is the perfect time to sell high on Gose, especially when his K-rate continues to be a problem.

iains
3 years 2 months ago

 Everyone should cool it with the pie in the sky trade situations.  Any player approaching free agency is not going to bring back much in a trade, unless there is a contract extension associated with it.  Under the new agreement, any player traded mid year in their final season of a contract is not eligible to be offered a qualifying offer.  So unless they sign a contract extension, at the end of the season, no matter who they are, they walk with no compensation going to the club.  This is going to greatly reduce the value of what will be offered in the way of prospects.  The other thing to consider is clubs have an increased perception of the value of prospects now that the market has corrected itself with regards to journeymen.  Clubs are no longer willing to pay millions for mediocrity when they can play a prospect at MLB minimum instead.

I expect the trade market will go along thee lines.  Big name players who do get traded will go with an extension on their contracts.  Middling players will likely go for a low to non-prospect as the originating club will attempt to get something for the player before free agency since they will not be willing to make a qualifying offer.  The real blockbusters are going to involve players with controllable years.  More like the Rasmus deal.

3 years 2 months ago

Blue Jays give JP Arencibia + low level pitching prospect
Angels give Ervin Santana

Vogelscheuche
3 years 2 months ago

The Ervin Santana who currently owns a 5.16 ERA and is a free agent after the year? Amazing.

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 well he won’t be a Blue Jay then. I almost Guarantee the Dodgers, Giants will trade better talent for him. Dodgers have new Ownership and will spend money at the trade deadline and if the Giants Ace keeps struggling they will be looking as well. With both those teams in  the Same Division as well as Yankees/Red sox the competition could tough to keep any decent starter from the competitors.

 Dempster is Hurt and there is no Guarantee what other starters will be available. Maybe Greinke (but doubtful) but the Astros might trade before the deadline and other teams will wait. The Blue Jays will be long gone before that with 60% of their rotation gone.

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

Yeah Dempster isn’t that good. He has only had 3 really good seasons since 2008, a bad one last season but has by far rebounded this year.

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 I was referring to tim lincecum. The two time CY young winner, He was the Ace and still would be if his season so far was so forgettable. Wandy might be more suited for the National league, but he does have the third lowest era among all mlb left handers since 2008. So calling him not that good is a little inaccurate.

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

Better season in 09 and 10 than anyone on your roster except Romero, plus he pitched over 200 innings each season. So I guess pretty much your whole starting staff is below average at best.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 months ago

dempster would be a welcome addition, he’s just an impending free agent. it just doesn’t make sense for the jays to acquire anyone who is a win now move.

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

Wandy might not even be among the Dodgers’ top five starters if he were traded to them. Dempster on the other hand…

And yeah, if you’re referring to Lincecum there, he’s the team’s fourth best starter now.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 2 months ago

You do know that Brandon Morrow has accumulated more WAR, and has a lower SIERA than Dempster in the last 3 seasons, while Dempster pitched roughly 100 more innings in that time, right?

Judging from the way you’re throwing ERA and WHIP around like they’re incredibly important, I’d say no.

EDIT: Was a reply to Ptk123. You can disregard jeffy :/

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 Wandy has not had an era above 3.60 since 2007. No I wasn’t suggesting getting Gose back. Not sure The Blue Jays have anyone the Astros would really even want. The Giants have some good depth.

tmengd
3 years 2 months ago

 I was not sure why the Dodgers had scouts watching him yesterday to be honest. I thought they had good pitching depth. The Red Sox either (although after getting Lowrie from them I am sure Luhnow would love to trade with them again)

Kev
3 years 2 months ago

 As an Astros fan, I tend to agree that Toronto is not the team that Luhnow will eventually deal with. I like Wandy – I think he’s a decent #3 on a contending team – but his stuff just doesn’t play in the AL very well. This isn’t Toronto’s year anyway, so I don’t see AA paying a premium for a guy who doesn’t figure to be around for much longer.

I think Luhnow and AA could probably work something out, and it would probably be a fair trade, as both are sharp guys who are good and sussing out a player’s true value, but it wouldn’t be enough to satisfy most Houston fans. Maybe that won’t stop Luhnow – no one saw him taking Correa, after all – but I imagine the team that buys Wandy will be an NL team desperate for a good, but not great, durable lefty. I just can’t see it happening with the Jays.

3 years 2 months ago

I don’t know from which side it is a “gross” trade proposal? I mean Kelly Johnson isn’t tearing it up right now, but he’ll hit better than any option the cardinals have at second base. Plus Carp. is coming back form the DL soon, so it would make room for him in the rotation. Idk just my two cents

boxcar8
3 years 2 months ago

“Not sure The Blue Jays have anyone the Astros would really even want.”

Yeah, you’re right, a team in total rebuild wouldn’t want anyone from a top 5 farm system in baseball and #1 for great young pitching.

suhiscrazierthanyou
3 years 2 months ago

how about Gose for one (who your Astros gave up for Brett Wallace)

mozelpuffski
3 years 2 months ago

how about jays keep their prospects, go for sheets as a filler, grab another mediocre pitcher that wont cost lots (guthrie who was a career era sub 3 at skydome) and forget about the potential 30+mil for rodriguez and his ok stuff

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

Where exactly did I throw ERA and WHIP around at?