Red Sox Intensify Efforts To Trade Youkilis

The Red Sox have intensified their efforts to trade Kevin Youkilis over the past 24-48 hours, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. One high-ranking National League official told the FOX Sports duo that Youkilis is being "shopped everywhere." The Red Sox are willing to include cash to facilitate the acquisition of better players in return.

Rosenthal and Morosi list the Diamondbacks, White Sox, Dodgers, Indians, and Pirates as teams with interest in Youkilis. They also note that the Reds are not interested, despite Youk's Cincinnati roots.

Scouts are expected to be on-hand this weekend to watch Youkilis and the Red Sox take on the Marlins. The 33-year-old corner infielder is in the midst of a 1-for-21 slump and has seen his triple slash line plummet to .215/.301/.345. He'll earn more than $7MM over the remainder of this season, and an acquiring team would have the option of picking up a $13MM option or paying a $1MM buyout.

Recently, it was reported that D-backs GM Kevin Towers was "reluctant" to pursue Youkilis.


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197 Comments on "Red Sox Intensify Efforts To Trade Youkilis"


dc21892
3 years 2 months ago

Not happy about this, but it’s probably best for the team if Youkilis can’t get enough consistent playing time to get on a roll.

wickedkevin
3 years 2 months ago

Oh yeah, that’s the problem.  He needs MORE playing time.  No thanks. 

dc21892
3 years 2 months ago

If he’s not playing, he clearly isn’t happy. This probably has something to do with reports of an unhappy locker room.

Rabbitov
3 years 2 months ago

It’s not good for his morale for the GM to act in a way that shows that he wants Youkilis gone ASAP.  Playing time won’t change that.

wickedkevin
3 years 2 months ago

He’s always been a sourpuss.  Are we really going to pretend like his attitude is something new and a direct result of playing time?

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 He has been a sourpuss because he grinds out every AB.. Plays the game with as much/more intensity as anyone in the game and some/many fans and especially the TV broadcast media of other teams dislike him for that?

I wish half the Red Sox roster would play the game with as much intensity as Youk so the arr9gant announcers of a few (not named) teams would have even more to complain about.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

 he is a great player…but when he sucks right now and you have a kid like Middlebrooks MLB ready…the time is here to trade him for pitching

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

before he breaks down even more

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

If you trade him right now you’re trading him at his lowest possible value.  Bad idea.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

and you actually think he is gonna get better….he is obviously gonna get traded

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Yes, yes I do.  I prefer to work with sample sizes large enough to actually draw conclusions from, not sample sizes just large enough for sports writers to boost ratings with.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

Touche…

melonis_rex
3 years 2 months ago

Because Middlebrooks is 100% guaranteed to not regress or struggle mightily like rookies oftentimes do, right? 

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

this is youk’s first bad season in six years. imagine how quickly they’ll turn on the rookie when he inevitably slumps

wickedkevin
3 years 2 months ago

If the rookie is taking up the playing time of the future (and current) performer, then yes.  This hurts Middlebrooks’ situation too.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Middlebrooks should be in AAA playing everyday, and trying to work on his K/BB issue.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

Maybe he should, but Youk is obviously getting traded so this kid can slide in

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Maybe he is, but if they are giving Youkilis away for spare parts just to insert a kid who isn’t 100% ready, it’s a bad move.

kevinfoley46
3 years 2 months ago

I’m just curious how skinny this text box can get.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

how is brett lawrie doing this year?

a hot stretch does not necessarily mean a player is ready or would be harmed by getting extra time in the minors

3 years 2 months ago

Lawrie? How is 35 runs, 18 XBH, 27 RBIs, 14 BB, 9 SB and a line of .288/.335/.412 not good for a second year player?  Baseball nowadays no longer is dominated by the veterans.  There are many young players that come in right away and produce.  These kids get babied too much nowadays. 

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

A .747 OPS isn’t good, and it’s even worse given what expectations were for Lawrie.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

which one of us is babying him if you’re saying a league average performance is a good performance?

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

ya that’s part of development, he is gonna produce more than Youk…Youks career is coming to an end very soon

melonis_rex
3 years 2 months ago

Soon he’ll probably produce more, yes. Not necessarily this year. 

And last I checked, the Sox are trying to make the playoffs this year.

wickedkevin
3 years 2 months ago

Granted, he grinds out at bats, and plays as hard as he can all the time.  But, he’s never been known to be a good locker room presence. 

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

true

Karkat
3 years 2 months ago

For what it’s worth, Youkilis has long commented to the media that while he doesn’t care what position he plays, he wants to play a position consistently, which hasn’t been happening. I fully expect that some regular time at 1B would see Youk’s numbers return to what we have come to expect.

3 years 2 months ago

Agree 100% Middlebrooks should be playing over Youk, because he is simply better

harmony55
3 years 2 months ago

The ZIPS rest-of-season projections have Will Middlebrooks with a .253/.291/.420/.711 line in 306 plate appearances and Kevin Youkilis with a .257/.362/.451/.813 line in 279 plate appearances.

Baseball America had never ranked the 23-year-old Middlebrooks among the Top 10 Red Sox prospects until a .285/.328/.506/.834 minor league line in 2011 catapulted Middlebrooks to the top of the Red Sox prospect list. A .328 on-base percentage — in a minor league breakout season — will be hard to translate into an MLB on-base percentage above the Mendoza-equivalent line of .300.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

I’ve said it multiple times before, but I’m still not convinced that they wouldn’t be best served by trading Middlebrooks instead.  I am convinced that Middlebrooks is going to be a good player, but I doubt that his value will ever be higher than it is right now.

tdw815
3 years 2 months ago

I don’t want to see him go either.  I always hate when a favorite player gets traded but a trade to bring pitching might be worth it.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

oh no….ownership is sucking people like you in just like they want to do….he is the main problem in the clubhouse….i would like to see a lot of trades( but winning most of the deals) and more prospects coming up who have the will to play like the Lavarnways and Andersons of the world…get rid of Youk and Beckett and most of the problems will be gone…

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

youkilis doesn’t have the will to play now? you want lars anderson instead? boston fans are the worst

– a boston fan

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

im just saying, im not saying them in particular…the prospects in general are gonna have more will to play….Lars Anderson a future prospect and if ownership doesn’t make some moves they might have to consider bringing up the Iglesias’s, Lavarnways etc….

Ben_Cherington
3 years 2 months ago

“Lars Anderson a future prospect”

to:

“Lars Anderson a former prospect”

Fixed!

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Lavarnway is a maybe catcher, and is far from guaranteed to come in and immediately produce even as well as Salty, let alone better.

Anderson is a has been who barely ever was, so I don’t know why you even mention his name.

Who do you propose they replace Beckett with?  He’s been one of the better starters on the team this year, and starting pitching is what they need to add; removing a guy like Beckett doesn’t help.  And just because the EEI radio jokers wanted to make a big deal out of the whole golf thing doesn’t mean Beckett is actually a problem, don’t listen to their nonsense.

Youkilis is one of the better hitters in the game when he’s healthy, and a <40 game sample this year doesn't change that fact, so trading him while his value is at it's absolute lowest point of his career is a ridiculous idea.  Middlebrooks' stats suggest he is due for a pretty major regression, so it's far from certain that he will out-produce Youkilis for the remainder of the season.  I'm still not 100% convinced that it wouldn't be a good idea to move Middlbrooks instead of Youkilis.

There are guys on the team who could reasonably be traded and replaced by prospects, but guys who you would be selling extremely low on, and guys who play a position of major need (starting pitchers) are not the guys you should be trading – despite what Massarotti is telling you.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

yes, when healthy…Youk is good…3rd base has obviously torn him down…this whole situation is a mess…im just mad that we are horrible….we do need starting pitching…we don’t have to trade beckett for more pitching but who would you trade for it…obviously not prospects….and yes Felger and Mazz has brain washed my mind…I would stick Youk at first base in a heartbeat if we did not have Gonzo….and it is too bad Ortiz is doing good…so Youk can’t be a DH….and sadly third base is wearing him down…

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Sure, he should be at 1B at this point in his career, and he would quite likely be more productive playing 1B, but he was on pace for 5+ WAR for the fourth straight season playing at 3B last year, so I don’t believe for a second that his struggles this year all stem from him playing 3B (not to mention the fact that he has played at least as much 1B since coming off the DL as he has 3B, and is still struggling).  He’s in a slump, and maybe he’s still not 100% healthy, but he proved last year he can be a valuable player even playing 3B everyday.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

 I don’t understand people’s problem with Beckett. It’s time to let the beer/chicken and golf incident go. As long as he pitches well, I have no problems. And he’s pitched well so far.

stl_cards16
3 years 2 months ago

A trade for pitching? Ha. I have a feeling you’ll be complaining about the trade after it happens of you think you’re getting a pitcher that will male it worth it.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

yes, obviously we aren’t gonna get good pitching straight up for Youk….

kevinfoley46
3 years 2 months ago

Well with Beckett, Lester, Buchhols, Dice K, Felix, Bard able to start and Lackey on the books, it’ wouldn’t even make sense if we could get a SP.

Upset Voter
3 years 2 months ago

Just because he got injured, doesn’t mean he won’t get his game on. I believe if he is traded, the BoSox will go down hill.  He is a great batter with great stats. Give him some time to get back to normal. He has been a strong addition to the BoSox. I really hope he doesn’t get traded. He is a strong asset to our team.

Bernard McDaniels
3 years 2 months ago

The Baltimore Orioles could use him but that will not happen, 1. the Dead soxs are in our division. he my not want to come here. 2. he is in his prime, 3. I like him because he is a winner. 4. everybodys talking about him and knowone mentioned us if we get him we will shock the world because no one exspect  us to win the division or a playoff spot. so I say Be Surprised.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

that’s not a very good idea, bros

Devern Hansack
3 years 2 months ago

I’ll sum up the comment section:

“Youkilis has no value!””Yes he does!”
“Please trade him!”
“Herp derp team chemistry!”
“Injuries!”

stl_cards16
3 years 2 months ago

I think the “yes he does” crowd is gone by now.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

heavier on the derp than anticipated

tomymogo
3 years 2 months ago

Braves? If Freeman can’t get healthy

diesel2410
3 years 2 months ago

Rays? Longoria just had a setback and they really need a hitter. They have an abundance of pitching too. It’s only a rental move, and wouldn’t be such a bad idea

3 years 2 months ago

They aren’t going to trade him within the division.

Devern Hansack
3 years 2 months ago

At this point, we’re 8 out and we’d be weakening their farm system…so I wouldn’t be reticent to do that.

GoAwayNow
3 years 2 months ago

 Yes please

Karkat
3 years 2 months ago

 The 2011 World Series champions were 8.5 games out last year. On September 1st. People need to stop acting like this is an insurmountable deficit all of a sudden. Heck, the **2004** Red Sox fell to 10.5 games out on August 15 of that year, and they still came within 2 games of New York right near the end. There is a lot of baseball left to play.

East Coast Bias
3 years 2 months ago

What happened last year was an exception, not the norm. It won’t happen every year, as much as I wish it did. Exciting times!

Karkat
3 years 2 months ago

 Well… if we’re still 8 games out 2.5 months from now, I’ll concede the point 😛

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

What happened last year might not be the norm, but coming back from 4 games out of the wildcard with 3 1/2 months left is pretty much the norm.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 months ago

Why would the Red Sox help out a division rival?

… and if they were willing to trade Youkilis to them, that would be a huge red flag for me.

Rabbitov
3 years 2 months ago

Help a brotha out. 

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 Man I wish they would swap him to the orioles if he has to go someplace.. There WAS a time when if either the O’s/Boston was out, or on the ropes..etc.. They would try and help each other, or make deals.. The goal was to ALWAYS knock off the NYY and don’t trade to NY was all, but I doubt that philosophy stands with ownership changes and all now on both sides.

Rabbitov
3 years 2 months ago

It would make sense in theory, but I’m worried about Youkilis’s morale this season and if he’s really there physically.  I think we are better off looking elsewhere. 

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

not that it’s a real possibility, but his schtick would be better appreciated in baltimore right now. boston is spoiled

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

This, so much.  When things were going well everyone loved Youkilis’ act; he was intense, and he cared, and he was passionate, etc…  Now, because they’re losing and/or he’s struggling, he’s a problem and a clubhouse cancer, and he needs to go because his attitude is making them lose.

East Coast Bias
3 years 2 months ago

What the heck is going on in here?! It’s maddening! And when did this new breed of Boston fans that don’t understand baseball come to this site? Never seen any of them before this thread.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Who knows?  WEEI probably posted a link to this article or something…

Wilsonl
3 years 2 months ago

Ehem Rays/Yankees last game in 2011.

Devern Hansack
3 years 2 months ago

We’re 8 games out and behind three very good teams and a team that is due for massive regression. I think it’s prudent to make the best trade for the Red Sox moving forward. The way Youkilis has played this season, he wouldn’t help them much anyway.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

no one is going to give up anything helpful for a slumping youkilis

if he were playing well, this discussion would make sense. right now it doesn’t. you’re selling low on a player with a huge ceiling

Paul Shailor
3 years 2 months ago

With his slash line he would bat cleanup in the rays lineup! Their lineup is pretty bad atm. They need longo.

3 years 2 months ago

 i think a red sox phillies trade is what needs to be done. the red sox can use some of the phillies pitching.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

Cole Hamels???

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 months ago

If the Phillies traded Cole Hamels to Boston, it’d be for Middlebrooks.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

 No thanks! Hammels contract is expiring….and I sure don’t want another 7 year 100+ million pitcher on the staff!

vtadave
3 years 2 months ago

Another?

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

Well another meaning another long term deal, not specifically a 7 year 100+ million deal.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

sounds better than giving away youk for nothing

i’d prefer greinke, though, since i’m pretty sure cole is about to get paaaid

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

He can’t handle the pressure though!!

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

it’s just different. miller stadium is nice and quiet and everybody looks away during his windup

dylanp5030
3 years 2 months ago

I don’t think he’s worth a good prospect even at 2 million. But, if he is, that’s good news for the Phillies and a potential Polanco trade.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 months ago

Youk’s a power bat though when he’s healthy.

Polanco’s value really only comes in his batting average and defense. I don’t think he gets traded simply because he’s not going to get anything beyond organizational filler.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

“Youk’s a power bat though when he’s healthy.”

that’s what I’ve always argued for…but I’m becoming less and less convinced now. Youk is supposedly healthy and still playing poorly. Same with the beginning of the season. Perhaps he is not 100%, but I do believe he is truly declining.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Regressing?  Probably.

Worthless?  No way.

If you told me that the norm for Youkilis at this point was about the pace he put up last year, I would probably buy it, but if you were to try to tell me that what he’s doing now is the “real” Youkilis at this point of his career I might just laugh in your face.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

By no means is he useless, especially if he moves back to 1B. That may help him stay healthy.

But for the Sox, it is time to trade him. Middlebrooks has shown enough, and the WMB/Youk/AGon rotation is not viable. Last thing I wanna see is AGon getting hurt in RF. Some people argue that down the road, Middlebrooks may struggle and we’ll be wishing we had Youk back. While that may be, how can you be sure that Youk will not also be struggling? Or even on the DL? Given Youk’s recent history, DL or not being 100% would not be a surprise at any given time.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

It’s no guarantee that Youkilis will be more valuable than Middlebrooks, or vise versa, but you don’t trade Youkilis for spare parts just to play a guy who has shown that he really wouldn’t be hurt by a little more time in AAA.  And like your point about Youkilis getting hurt, who’s to say that Middlebrooks or Gonzalez can’t get hurt?  If you trade Youkilis and one of those two gets hurt you’re stuck with Nick Punto starting at a corner infield spot.  That sounds like fun, right?  If you stick Middlebrooks back in AAA and Youkilis (or Gonzalez) were to get hurt you have him available to come up and play, and you wouldn’t have to watch Punto out there every day.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

Yes, my preferred solution was always to do that, Middlebrooks back in AAA and hold on to Youk. But Sox front office clearly doesn’t seem to be heading that direction. The current situation with AGon in RF is a mess. If they’re set on playing Middlebrooks and letting Youk go, do it sooner rather than later so that Middlebrooks and AGon can have some stability.

If they’re looking for Youk to build his value before they trade him, then send Middlebrooks to AAA temporarily and let Youk play full-time without the messy rotation going on.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

They may not be dead-set on trading Youkilis; they could be willing to trade him and trying to gauge what the interest is before they have to make a move with sending Middlebrooks down.

As you point out, they can send Middlebrooks down to AAA regardless of what they intend to do with Youkilis (unless they trade him in the next day or so); they can see if someone is willing to give them what it would take to send Youkilis away and bring Middlebrooks up if they find someone, and if they don’t they can leave Middlebrooks in AAA to work on his plate discipline.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 Cleveland needs someone even halfway capable of power numbers right about now.. I wish they could convince them to take Youk for Masterson back 😉

Maybe they will all of a sudden hire Hart back as the GM, then no telling what would happen in that organization..

Seriously.. Maybe some chance they could package something together and reacquire Masterson.. Not big on trading for pitchers, but with his moved arm slot..he is interesting.. Forget Jimanez.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

” Polanco’s value really only comes in his batting average and defense”

You know.. A guy the LAD gave up on and became somewhat appreciated finally in Boston fits that “bill” also.. Goes by the name of Billy Mueller.. He just played terrific defense and slapped the ball all over the place.. Kept this young kid at Pawtucket also a wee bit longer (2 seasons) by the name of Youkiliis..

toptimrubies
3 years 2 months ago

Mueller played in LA after Boston, not before.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 Thanks.. I looked Mueller up after the post and saw he was with the Cubbies right before and LAD after (memory failing?LOL) but just didn’t feel like editing the post.. Cheers on the correction :-)

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

I would put Youk at DH in a heartbeat…at least there he would stay healthy and not have to face the wear and tear of 3B…but of course Ortiz is there so

3 years 2 months ago

Redsox include Ryan Lavarnway and trade him to the cubs for Matt Garza or offer him to the brew crew with Lavarnway and another stud for Zack Greinke. Makes a lot of sense to be honest.

3 years 2 months ago

The Brewers have Lucroy, they won’t need Lavarnway.

wickedkevin
3 years 2 months ago

If the Red Sox trade Lavarnway, I will definitely invest in a Lucchino dart board.

johnsilver
3 years 2 months ago

 LOL Who needs to trade anybody for that??

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

Yes, it makes a lot of sense to trade another big part of our Farm System, especially when we messed it up in the Gonzalez deal….Also, I don’t think bringing in a kid with Social Anxiety Disorder will help the clubhouse 

stl_cards16
3 years 2 months ago

What the heck does social anxiety disorder have to do with the clubhouse? Jeez.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

the clubhouse has enough problems, that’s all i’m saying..it won’t be a good environment for Zach or the Red Sox

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

 Not exactly the clubhouse…but think about the market. Social anxiety disorder + Boston media is just doomed for failure.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

ya….that too

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

Yeah the Cubs are really going to trade Garza for a package including a 33 year old that is hitting .215! Truly does not make any sense at all to be honest!

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

i mean it is possible they could if the Red Sox spice things up with a couple of prospects….

mwagner26
3 years 2 months ago

But isn’t the purpose of trading Youk to GET prospects? 

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

The Cubs aren’t taking on money in any trades.

3 years 2 months ago

what is the love fest with Garza. just because he use to pitch good against the red sox doesnt mean he is going to pitch good for the red sox. the guy has been okay and nothing special this season. i wish more sox fans can egt off the garza badwagon.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

haha…it is like the John Lackey signing, he could only pitch well against the Red Sox

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

Cool proposal…but that makes no sense for the Cubs. Why would rebuilding team acquire an expensive, aging, injury-prone player whose contract is expiring?

3 years 2 months ago

Like i said, the red sox would pay his salary and give them Lavarnway also since we have ZERO use for him this year or next. And even 2 years from now he is a backup C and DH. He is most likely top prospect to get traded. Ill put money on that.

3 years 2 months ago

Its to bad because i really like Youkilis but in the end im all for whats best for the RED SOX. If Ben does trade him, hopefully it will be to a NL team like cause idont want to see youk bat against the red sox but if it mean trading him to a al team gets you  a better return then just do it.

Gumby65
3 years 2 months ago

Keep him in the city, he’s been working it and is now ready for 2nd (3rd? 4th?) fiddle with the Boston Pops.

nscrfan88
3 years 2 months ago

This should have been done right after last season ended…now owners are letting him start even though he doesn’t deserve to, just to try to build trade value…i say send him to AAA and let him build trade value there then package him with Beckett and get the cancer out of Boston…and to reply to above comments..did someone really say package him with Lavernway? wow you must be a pink hat because Lavernway IS our future catcher OR DH

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

haha….that person really is a Pink Hat

Steven M. Smith
3 years 2 months ago

Seriously? You can’t just “send” Youk to AAA. Their options are to keep him, trade him, waive him, or designate him for assignment. The latter would require him to clear waivers before he could be assigned to AAA. Otherwise, can’t be assigned to AAA without giving veteran’s consent. Oh, and it’s Lavarnway, not Lavernway. Perhaps you’re the pink hat.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Actually, Youkilis has one option year left, so they could technically send him to AAA.  They aren’t going to though, no way.

Steven M. Smith
3 years 2 months ago

Actually, no he doesn’t, since he has more than 5 years of major league service time.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

He still has the option, it’s just that he would have to clear revocable waivers first (which is considered a formality in this situation – guys never get claimed under those circumstances and even if they do the claim can be revoked) and because he has the option year left he doesn’t have to okay being sent to the minors (no veteran’s consent needed).

thegrayrace
3 years 2 months ago

Dodgers, please. Despite how bad he’s been, he’s unlikely to be worse than Uribe or Loney.

TommyL
3 years 2 months ago

 Agree. He’s a great fit for Dodgers and Mattingly and his mix-and-match style.

Jorden
3 years 2 months ago

 I don’t see him being a great mix-and-match style player considering that is what he’s doing now in Boston and tanking.

TommyL
3 years 2 months ago

 He needs out of the melodrama that is Boston. And if he has anything left, he’d get every chance to play regularly. 1B vs. lefties, 3B vs. righties with Loney/Uribe/Hairston platooning.

bigpat
3 years 2 months ago

He just has to go there’s no other way around it. He’s been a good soldier for a while but for whatever reason, I think his struggles and the off the field issues are taking their toll on him too much.

I know it’s popular thought here to say that locker room chemistry is overrated, but right now the Sox have an unhappy player on their hands. And unhappy and unproductive is the worst combination you can have. I also don’t think Gonzo signed on to be their right fielder, so they just need to move on and get everyone back to their right positions. There’s still a bit of a chance that they can get hot and salvage the season. 

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

 For Youkilis too, I think a change of scenery will do him well.

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

Kevin Youkilis for Billy Beane….

Snoochies8
3 years 2 months ago

Beane doesn’t do it unless he’s pretty much free. Especially since, for whatever reason, Brandon Inge decided it’s 2004 again.

chowdah219
3 years 2 months ago

Is it me, or did the Sox really start sliding again after Youk returned and they started this ridiculous musical chairs with WMB, Gonzo, and Youk?
I think Youk has been great all these years. I also think the FO shoulve done this over the winter and just trusted WMB to do the job. But it is what it is and I hope they can move Youk somewhere so this team can get back to normal…
If they eat some $$ and maybe throw in an a prospect (or not) they can get back another prospect in return. I wouldnt give away a future piece if theyre not getting anything decent back in return…
Just get everyone back to where they should be playing, and WMB needs to play everyday…

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

Agreed. This WMB, Youk, Gonzo rotation is not a long term solution. Youk needs to go to allow Middlebrooks and Gonzo to settle in.

They would definitely be selling low on Youk right now, but it is what it is.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

it’s just you. they were 21-22 when he came back and are 33-33 now

Jorden
3 years 2 months ago

As much as I want a replacement for James Loney, I’am not a fan of Youkilis’s attitude, injury history, or performance the entire year.

This is a perfect move for Ned Colletti if it was 2010, but it’s not. The Dodgers should set their sites on Morneau or Carlos Lee.

Like Youkilis, Carlos Lee won’t cost much more than money alone, but at least his numbers are decent.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 2 months ago

 what exactly are you referring to when you say his attitude?

Jorden
3 years 2 months ago

Hearing he’s a bum in the clubhouse…Which is somewhat understandable being he is waiting to be shoved out the door, while his replacement rolls on.

Still has to be the 14m a year professional he is.

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

do you know who was mentoring will middlebrooks last year and in spring training, openly talking about how great the kid was and how he was the future for the team? rhymes with shoukilis

there’s no grudge. the guy has always been furious with himself when he and/or the team has not played well. he flips out after a strikeout when he’s gone 4-for-5 for the night. that’s the kind of player he is

he’s slumping this year, the team is losing, and boston has never been a more melodramatic place

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 months ago

i don’t like the way he cares about succeeding n stuff

M.Kit
3 years 2 months ago

With Cody Ross returning Tuesday, it has to be done. He’s done a lot for the Red Sox, and we appreciate that, but Will Middlebrooks has to be in the lineup every day.

melonis_rex
3 years 2 months ago

If Middlebrooks’ 0.19 BB/K doesn’t improve fast, major league pitching will adjust to him and it won’t look pretty.

Jeff Snedden
3 years 2 months ago

Red Sox fans are being set up for a massive disappointment when they see the return for Youkilis after this type of revelation.  Think less “prospect” and more “player to be named later + cash”.  Sounds like they just want him vanished, and they might get a bucket of balls back now.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

“The Red Sox are willing to include cash to facilitate the acquisition of better players in return.”

chris_synan1
3 years 2 months ago

they wanted Gerardo Parra and they can’t even get him…

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

Youkilis doesn’t make sense for the D’Back regardless of the cost, so you can’t necessarily conclude from that that he’s not worth Parra.

3 years 2 months ago

They could cover his entire salary and the Dbacks still wouldn’t trade them Parra.

If someone gives anything of value for Youk, I’ll be very surprised.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

I don’t know if he’s worth Parra or not (I guess it depends on whether you buy into his one good offensive year, and think he is a starter, or if you think his three poor offensive years are more “real” and view him as a 4th outfielder), but that wasn’t really the point.  The point was that he doesn’t really make sense for the Diamondbacks regardless of the cost, so you can’t really draw conclusions from them not wanting to give up Parra for him; to a team where Youkilis would be a good fit he might be worth a guy like Parra.

sherrilltradedooverexperience
3 years 2 months ago

 Hopefully for sox fans he pulls a David Ortiz and still has something left in the tank.

ritz51
3 years 2 months ago

With the way WMB has been playing lately and his questionable K/BB rates, I think it would be prudent to send him down and allow him to see time everyday. Play Youkilis at third consistently (and allow Gonzalez to move his GG caliber defense back to his natural position) and hope that he gets hot. At that point you can make the decision to either sell high or continue to have one of the best hitting 1B in the league in your lineup.

This Gonzalez/Middlebrooks/Youkilis rotation has to stop. End the madness.

With Ross and hopefully Crawford coming off the DL soon, the only other option to that is to trade Youk for next to nothing. Any Sox fan who has paid any attention the last few years knows how valuable a healthy Youkilis is.

MaineSox
3 years 2 months ago

With 1700 outfielders on the DL I don’t think playing Gonzalez in RF and keeping Middlebrooks around was the worst decision, but with guys coming back it’s making less sense, so they are forced to do something.  I’m with you though that that something should be sending Middlebrooks back to AAA to work on some stuff that obviously still needs work (in reality they are things that could be worked on at the major league level, but when the choice is either give Youkilis away for nothing, or send him to AAA to work on them, it really shouldn’t be a difficult decision).

Ptk123
3 years 2 months ago

Yeah hopefully he learns to catch line drives so Cubs fans don’t boo Soriano for not running. Cause we are so close to 1st and that made all the diffrence in that game!

ritz51
3 years 2 months ago

I don’t think it was a bad idea at all, in fact, I applaud management for thinking outside the box with Gonzalez in right. At this point though, you’ve got one of Youkilis/Gonzalez sitting every other day…it makes sense that the two of them are struggling without consistent playing time.

I agree with the Middlebrooks assessment as well. His current approach has worked at every level so far and I think the Travis Fryman comparison offered by SoxProspects is spot on. His ceiling, if he could fine tune his approach at the plate even a little, is probably higher than that. A 3-4 WAR 3b is pretty valuable.

I just really don’t want to see Youkilis given away for nothing, especially considering how underrated (his OPS. during his peak seasons was just under that Pujols/Votto/Cabrera type production) he has been the last few years. At his age he’s probably not a 6 WAR player anymore but I refuse to believe that we’re seeing the real Kevin Youkilis right now.

DempseyK
3 years 2 months ago

I think Youk would be a great fit in Pittsburgh.  He fills our need for a right hand hitting power bat at first base, and we have enough major league ready pitching at Triple-A to give the Red Sox what they need as long as they are willing to pay the majority of the contract.  Jeff Locke or Justin Wilson would be a good deal for both clubs.  Even if the Pirates needed to add mid tier prospect to get the deal done, so be it.  Obviously Youk wont warrant any of our top prospects, so it seems like a win/win for us, and no matter which Triple-A starter Boston winds up with, they will not be dissapointed.  The Indianapolis staff is dominating their league this year.