Reds, Blue Jays, Rangers Eyeing Matt Garza

The Cubs agreed to two significant deals today, and they might not be done yet. They sent Paul Maholm and Reed Johnson to Atlanta in one trade and dealt Geovany Soto to Texas in another. Meanwhile, Matt Garza continues drawing interest despite a fluid buildup in his triceps that will keep him from pitching until after the trade deadline passes. Here are the latest rumors surrounding the right-hander…

  • The Reds are talking to the Cubs about Garza, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports. A team such as the Reds could complete a deal if it determines the injury is relatively minor.
  • The Cubs have tried to trade Garza to the Reds, but it's doubtful the sides will complete a deal, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter).
  • The Blue Jays remain interested in Garza despite his current condition, Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star reports.
  • There's a "very high chance" Garza gets traded, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports (Twitter links). The Blue Jays have been bearing down on him. The Cubs are still trying to move Garza, Stark writes.
  • The Rangers and Blue Jays are interested, Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com reports.
  • The Cubs are fielding calls on Garza and working on a Ryan Dempster deal, David Kaplan of CSNChicago.com reports (on Twitter).


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71 Comments on "Reds, Blue Jays, Rangers Eyeing Matt Garza"


Adam Roy
2 years 11 months ago

Why must there be so much juicy action on the trade front tonight. I want to go to bed…..

Jake Willock
2 years 11 months ago

I was thinking the samething!

Adam Roy
2 years 11 months ago

yeah I usually stay up like 30 hours straight monitoring this thing

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

because its 16 hours until the dead line, its like xmas eve for baseball,,,,, deadline eve!

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

Imagine being Jed and Theo, let alone every other GM in the league being woken up by those two

2 years 11 months ago

The Reds do NOT need Garza, period. Why would Jocketty help the Cubs rebuild and get stronger? We have Cueto, Latos, Bailey, Leake and Arroyo. The ONLY move the Reds need to make is, when Votto gets off the DL next week, DFA Cairo and keep X Paul as the LH OF and bench bat. Overbay doesn’t make sense either.

2 years 11 months ago

I think we do. Look at his previous stats..he won 15 games in 2010, and has a near mid 3 ERA for his career. Look at Leake..a guy who has an ERA in the mid 4’s. I like Leake alot. He’s young, and definitely has potential to be a solid starter in the future..but he isn’t reliable…when your in the playoffs you NEED reliability…and I think someone like Garza brings this to the table..just my 2 cents.

QCCubsPerspective
2 years 11 months ago

Garza will be a solid pitcher for your team. As a Cubs fan, though, he sometimes seems to be mentally lacking focus.

mlbscout6
2 years 11 months ago

your point about Leake is well taken, but considering the Reds look like they have the division, how many time do you suppose their #5 starter will need to start in the playoffs? My guess is zero. Now if they feel they need Garza to lock down the division that would make more sense, but I don’t think it’s worth giving up prospects interdivisionally.

Rex_Chestington
2 years 11 months ago

Hoyer clearly trying to use the Jays to raise the price Texas has to pay. 0% chance he ends up in Toronto

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

Jed you mean?

throwitback85
2 years 11 months ago

Come on. This is Theo’s show.

rikersbeard
2 years 11 months ago

Doubt his “ploy” would work at all if you, as an uninformed outsider, can tell there is absolutely zero chance of his going to T.O.

Rex_Chestington
2 years 11 months ago

I never said it would work, only that the attempt is being made.

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

I hope it doesn’t happen, but I doubt its 0%

and i doubt daniels falls for that.

2 years 11 months ago

Getting Garza might be the final piece of the puzzle for the reds to be a “true” playoff threat…Granted, I like Leake, he’s young, and he’s shown to be a good road pitcher than a GABP Bandbox pitcher..that said he’s a weak link. Playoff teams shouldn’t have weak links…Hopefully a package of Corcino + Henry Rodriguz + Leake should get things done.

throwitback85
2 years 11 months ago

The Rangers aren’t going to get far unless they add another pitcher. I’m not sure Garza is a good fit in that ballpark, though.

rikersbeard
2 years 11 months ago

really? They seem to have a pretty decent team as is.

throwitback85
2 years 11 months ago

I don’t see them advancing deep in the playoffs again with their current starting staff.

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

Get it done Jed, you know youre going to trade Garza this winter at worst so why not get one more prospect in trading him now!!

Irishpitviper
2 years 11 months ago

if we cant get a decent return for demp, i say put him in the pen and step on his neck like he did us

jayrig5
2 years 11 months ago

That sends a great message to potential free agents and other players.

Steve Keasling
2 years 11 months ago

not as great a message as throwing $$ at them when it is time to compete…..the greatest message athletes listen to is the $$$$.

jayrig5
2 years 11 months ago

No. Dempster has been with the Cubs for almost ten years, and is as well-respected among other players as there is. If players see an organization deliberately and spitefully mistreat a player like that, just for exercising his no-trade clause, that absolutely sends a message around baseball. And trust me, I wasn’t happy with the vetoed Braves deal either, but you have to think about the future. What would you gain from making an example out of Dempster? Objectively and tangibly, nothing. Whereas there is a lot to lose by doing it. Just a foolish suggestion.

MountainsofMadness
2 years 11 months ago

Dempster did all that himself.

jwsox
2 years 11 months ago

remember how your name is patientcubsfan…?

baseball52
2 years 11 months ago

There are reasons you’re not in baseball.

2 years 11 months ago

theo pitting the rangers farm system vs the blue jays? aww yeah

cyberboo
2 years 11 months ago

Don’t get too excited. The most Chicago could get from the Jays would be a Jenkins, McGuire, plus a couple of nobody prospects, if that. Garza would be a fourth starter on Toronto, even with the injury problems and Romero having a bad year. In 2013, it is Morrow, Romero, Alvarez, then Garza, if Hutch doesn’t pass him too, making him the fifth starter. You don’t give up anything special for Garza to be a fifth starter. In the AL, Garza wins in pitcher friendly parks, but he gets blasted in hitters parks, which is backed up by his 5.43 ERA – 12 – 27 record against Boston, New York, Texas, Anaheim, Detroit and Chicago.

laffingrass
2 years 11 months ago

Are you serious?

Romero and Garza might be close, I’d be willing to give the edge to Garza because he’s never pitched as horribly as Romero has been.

Alvarez is nowhere near Garza, he barely reaches 3.0 k/9.

Morrow could be better, if he weren’t hurt every 2 months.

2 years 11 months ago

Lol Right…

Michael Nguyen
2 years 11 months ago

Lol@ Anaheim and Detroit being hitters’ parks. Consistency + durability + stats vs. AL East = Garza > Any Jays pitcher mentioned.

chrisenvy
2 years 11 months ago

Mike Olt please? haha.

Dwight
2 years 11 months ago

I wanted Greinke. Can Nolan save the season?

2 years 11 months ago

It’s Jon Daniels, Thad Levine, and AJ Preller that handle this. Nolan is just a face who’s opinion they respect.

baseball52
2 years 11 months ago

So… Billy Hamilton…

2 years 11 months ago

lets not get carried away..this is Matt Garza..not Cole Hamels ..

2 years 11 months ago

Right, Garza, who is under team control next year and will net a comp pick and the draft cash that goes along with it. Garza has always been the most valuable starter available due to the changes to comp picks in CBA. Not saying the Reds should give up Hamilton, but your comment is upside down regarding values.

2 years 11 months ago

Billy Hamilton ain’t going anywhere, lol.

2 years 11 months ago

I don’t know what Walt is thinking. I kind of like it though. You know someone is going to wear down and after seeing Leake struggle tonight maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to see whats out there. Plus when playoff time comes you need 3 starters Cueto Garza Latos/Baily makes a lot more since.

Tommy Meyers
2 years 11 months ago

Don’t know much about the Reds system, but looking at Cingrani’s numbers, he would be a good start

2 years 11 months ago

Corcino, Cingrani, Hanilton, Gregorius, HRod, untouchable. Sorry, the Reds GM has said so.

Tommy Meyers
2 years 11 months ago

Then the Reds will not get Matt Garza, especially with the Rangers and the Blue Jays being the other 2 teams involved

TophersReds
2 years 11 months ago

Walt said nothing about Corcino, Cingrani, Gregorious, or HRod being untouchable. Sorry, the Reds GM said only Hamilton was ‘untouchable’ and that doesn’t even mean much if we’re blown away by an offer (i.e. something for Justin Upton).

Tommy Meyers
2 years 11 months ago

Exactly, Hamilton will not being go back for Garza because the Cubs need pitching. If they trade for Garza, one or two of Cingrani, Corcino, and Stephenson have to be coming back (most likely one of the three)

2 years 11 months ago

Cingrini is probably our number 1 pitching prospect..behind Corcino, and Stephenson…I do think if a deal occurs one of those prospects will have to be in the mix..unfortantly..

WrigleyTerror37
2 years 11 months ago

Just a joke but if the Cubs get Billy Hamiltion the cubs can race him and Campana during BP it will be a track meet on the baseball diamond!

2 years 11 months ago

Reds will NOT trade Billy Hamilton…..keep dreaming Cub fans errr losing Cub fans

Robert McCuaig
2 years 11 months ago

Hilarious how much Reds fans overvalue this Hamilton kid. So what, he’s fast?! Doesn’t mean he can hit ML pitching– you can’t steal 1B!
And Hamilton doesn’t even have a true position, he is NOT a major league SS, not close and even the Reds will admit this… So what, he’s another fast CF prospect… ooooh, aaaah, gimme a break…

Jason McNeely
2 years 11 months ago

So I’m guessing if the Reds were to get Garza, then the rotation would be Cueto, Latos, Arroyo, Garza, Bailey? Or flipflop Garza and Arroyo. And I would assume Leake goes to the minors. Also, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Reds pick up Overbay for a PH/1B backup plan.

Gunner65
2 years 11 months ago

Unless Leake is part of the trade package

bluejayspwn
2 years 11 months ago

snider has just been taken out of the game and said his good byes to farrel wonder who hes been traded too ?

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

it wont be enough :(

2 years 11 months ago

pittsburgh pirates

sean triplett
2 years 11 months ago

snider just left the game for the jays vs mariners.. i bet he’s gone to the cubs for garza

bluejayspwn
2 years 11 months ago

lets hope

Jamie Sayer
2 years 11 months ago

Snider just got of field and shook everyones hand. Wheres he goin MLBTR!?

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

im so upset

Jamie Sayer
2 years 11 months ago

Same here, just when I thought he had broken through and solidified himself in LF.

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

unless its for justin upton i’m upset.

Jamie Sayer
2 years 11 months ago

Brad Lincoln… No way….

Lunchbox45
2 years 11 months ago

wow
officially off the AA bandwagon, thats absolutely brutal

ice_hawk10
2 years 11 months ago

there have been plenty of breakthrough moments in the past with snider. i’m uneasy about the trade, but i’m not going to form an instant opinion of it either. i’ll take my snider coloured glasses off first, cause he was one of my fav’s too.

sean triplett
2 years 11 months ago

pirates according to the mariners announcers.. brad lincoln coming to toronto.. whoever that is

bluejayspwn
2 years 11 months ago

Brad lincon really ? gonna have to google that

2 years 11 months ago

Cant believe AA just traded Travis Snider to the pirates !!!!…for who Brad Lincoln ,..so AA your telling me that Eric Thames is better than Snider … :( not happy

2 years 11 months ago

Thames is also gone..

you really see the future of the jays as Bautista, Rasmus and Snyder? Guy has a toothpick for a wrist and was once again starting to show he has no plate control, they get Lincoln who is having a break out year as a reliever who they can control until 2018.. what’s not to like about this deal ?