Pirates Interested In Ike Davis, Mitch Moreland

7:28pm: The Pirates spoke to the Mets about trading for Davis, a source told Travis Sawchik of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

3:48pm: The Pirates have seen a pair of first base candidates come off the board in the past week with the Rays re-siging James Loney for $21MM over three years and the Mariners acquiring Logan Morrison. However, they're still looking at the trade market and currently have their sights set on Ike Davis and Mitch Moreland, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (Twitter link).

Davis' name has been most frequently connected to the Brewers in the past week, but Pittsburgh also has a hole to fill at first base. Davis batted .242/.334/.434 overall in 2013 but was strong against right-handed pitching, as can be seen in his .256/.356/.471 slash line. That would seem to make him an ideal platoon partner for Gaby Sanchez, who roughed up lefties at a .333/.438/.539 clip in 2013.

Moreland offers similar platoon issues, having batted just .236/.295/.362 against left-handers in his career. Both he and Davis can be controlled through the 2016 season, though Moreland is projected to earn just $2.7MM in 2014 (per MLBTR's Matt Swartz), while Davis is projected to earn $3.5MM next season. It's not known at this time what the Rangers would be looking for in return for Moreland. New York is said to be asking the Brewers to part with right-hander Tyler Thornburg.


148 Responses to Pirates Interested In Ike Davis, Mitch Moreland Leave a Reply

  1. N.K.T. 2 years ago

    They need to do something. Would rather have Moreland than Davis personally

    • Joseph 2 years ago

      They definitely need to do something, either of the two would be great with Sanchez hitting against lefties.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      Not sure they really do, why not find out about Lambo then adjust? Projection systems seem to like Lambo only slightly less than these guys. They are all in the 1-1.5 WAR range. Of course this presumes that Lambo can learn how to play 1B well in a short time period.

      • Being a Ranger Fan, I can tell you this…

        Mitch Moreland is a very good defensive first baseman. He’s streaky, but I think he’s the type of player that would benefit greatly from a change of scenery (kind of like Chris Davis). I think the Rangers have put too much pressure on him over the last couple of years and he’s always had to look over his shoulder at first base. I think playing for Hurdle would do him some good.

        He does struggle against lefties, but before he got injured last year, he looked like he was just about to figure it all out. He’s good for 20+ HRs and solid defense. He’s slow on the bases, but he’s a good player and I’m sure the Pirates could do worse.

        • Erik Christensen 2 years ago

          I think a change of scenery would do Ike a lot of good too

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            I think Ike needs to get out of NY period. A change of scenery would really benefit Ike.

          • Erik Christensen 2 years ago

            I’m sure it would. I think most of his problems is he’s putting too much pressure on himself. If he went to a team where he wasn’t looked at as their main power hitter, he’d be able to turn his career around.

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            I don’t think it’s only that,but the constant booing from the fans has lowered his confidence,along with the managing,and FO. The lack of effective coaching has been a problem too

        • $6544906 2 years ago

          “Being a Mets Fan, I can tell you this about Davis, ditto to everything you stated about Moreland, and I mean Ditto!!!

      • BucSox 2 years ago

        Lambo is playing there in winter league and he has MiLB experience there as well so 1B isn’t going to be that hard for him to adjust to.

      • Brad 2 years ago

        As a mets fan I can tell you this…

        Ike Davis doesn’t have what it takes to hang around major league pitching.

        • SeanE 2 years ago

          I’m a Mets fan,and former Mets sportswriter also. Ike is a player who plays solid defense(not great). A change of scenery really could help him. He needs to get away from the coaching,the Mets fans,and the managing. 80% of his career has been constant booing by the Mets.

        • paqza 2 years ago

          Maybe you should put on your glasses when watching the game then. As a Mets fan, I can assure you your opinion is not valid at all. He may never be a Major League great but he looks to be good enough to stick around on a 25 man roster somewhere.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      Not sure they really do, why not find out about Lambo then adjust? Projection systems seem to like Lambo only slightly less than these guys. They are all in the 1-1.5 WAR range. Of course this presumes that Lambo can learn how to play 1B well in a short time period.

    • paqza 2 years ago

      Davis has the better career numbers. Your comment basically makes zero sense.

  2. Taylor 2 years ago

    Is Lambo asking too much?

    • Rico Carson 2 years ago

      For which player? The Pirates might not have room for Lambo if they acquire one of these guys.

      • Taylor 2 years ago

        Thinking moreland. Im just thinking out loud the rangers need an OF/DH

    • Joseph 2 years ago

      He isn’t proven

  3. Pei Kang 2 years ago

    As a Met fan: please take Ike! And, I don’t mind what kind of prospect my team receives.

    • Joseph 2 years ago

      Gladly!

    • rct 2 years ago

      I’ll never understand this reasoning. He’s better than Duda, has way more upside than Duda, and the Mets don’t figure to contend next season. He’s shown plenty of positive signs and should be on a team who has the time/ability to give him another shot. How is that not the Mets?

      • Chris Koch 2 years ago

        money. 3.5mil for potentially a bench player who doesn’t at anything to the team aside from PHs. And if he struggles batting now, how awful will he struggle when not playing regularly? 3.5mil now becomes 4-6mil next season while still having the same issue. Duda or Davis at 1b.
        I don’t understand how money can be an issue for a NY team…but they certainly seem to run a tight budget.

        • Pei Kang 2 years ago

          money is an issue for any team when their ownership are tightwad worthless-and supposedly broke cheapstakes.

          • paqza 2 years ago

            Not tightwads until Madoff hit. The Mets were consistently in the top 5 and often #2 in Major League payrolls between the time the Wilpons bought out the team from Doubleday and Madoff breaking.

            They spent their money poorly but that’s a different argument. The fact is they spent pretty much more than any other team other than the Yankees and occasionally the Red Sox/Phillies.

      • Pei Kang 2 years ago

        sure, he has more potential than Duda, but he has regressed terribly and has low OBP even when good. I wouldn’t MIND giving him another shot, to be honest, but….another poor year or half year, his value would plummet to zero. Right now, it’s almost zero.

        Duda has plate discipline, and some power and is a decent first base guy defensively. We KNOW he can put up 18-20 homers in a decent full season.

        • rct 2 years ago

          Can Duda play a full season, though? The most he’s ever done is 121 games. And is he a ‘decent’ first baseman? He’s only had 80+ games there in the majors.

          Just for fun, Duda’s second half last season (in only 39 games) was .196/.348/.359.

          • Pei Kang 2 years ago

            yeah, true enough. But, there’s only one way to find out, right? Plus, Ike’s struggles with the bat last season afflicted his fielding….meh. they both aren’t great options.

          • rct 2 years ago

            It’s a shame one of them isn’t right handed, would make a serviceable platoon. Although there’s Satin. Meh.

          • paqza 2 years ago

            Ike’s second half last season (in only 38 games): .286/.449/.505

        • paqza 2 years ago

          Incidentally, Ike has never had a “poor year”. He’s had two horrific first halves but in both cases, his second halves were among the best hitting lines in the entire game. Love it when people make stuff up to fit their perceptions.

          Also, you say that Ike has a low OBP and that Duda has “plate discipline” – Davis has a higher career walk rate (12.1% to 11.3%) and a higher 2013 walk rate (15.1% to 14.3%).

        • paqza 2 years ago

          Incidentally, Ike has never had a “poor year”. He’s had two horrific first halves but in both cases, his second halves were among the best hitting lines in the entire game. Love it when people make stuff up to fit their perceptions.

          Also, you say that Ike has a low OBP and that Duda has “plate discipline” – Davis has a higher career walk rate (12.1% to 11.3%) and a higher 2013 walk rate (15.1% to 14.3%).

      • paqza 2 years ago

        He’s got a higher ceiling than Duda but a lower floor. Their batting lines are pretty similar and their defense is pretty similar too, now. Ike was a better fielder before his ankle injury but now it’s a wash.

      • paqza 2 years ago

        He’s got a higher ceiling than Duda but a lower floor. Their batting lines are pretty similar and their defense is pretty similar too, now. Ike was a better fielder before his ankle injury but now it’s a wash.

  4. MadmanTX 2 years ago

    Moreland for Andrew McCutchen–don’t think about it, Pirates…Just say YES!

    • Daniel Franklin 2 years ago

      So many down-votes, some people don’t get humor… I feel sorry for them.

      • bob 2 years ago

        except it has to be funny…

        • Daniel Franklin 2 years ago

          Thank God you aren’t in charge of comedy.

          • bob 2 years ago

            I get that you are the guy at parties who laughs at your own jokes but no one else does

    • bob 2 years ago

      Josh Harrison for Darvish, Profar, and Choice….Just say YES

      • Daniel Franklin 2 years ago

        Proof: copycat gets a much higher 4:1 up-to-down vote ratio. Thanks for proving my point

  5. Kevin Chen 2 years ago

    The mets will need maybe one of the following from the pirates for Ike davis : Josh Bell, Glasnow, or heredia!

    Davis has a lot of power potential and still and a least 3 more years of his contract left!

    • Rico Carson 2 years ago

      They are going to get Jeff Locke and be happy with it.

      • mikefichera 2 years ago

        Mets won’t take Locke. No spot for him on the team. We have at least 3 guys that can put up his numbers in our minors right now.

    • TL 2 years ago

      Probably more along the lines of Jeff Locke

    • Brian 2 years ago

      Disagree, I think the best fit is actually Nick Kingham. Heredia and Glasnow are too far from the majors and the Mets are known to prefer pitching in return for Davis.

      • Rico Carson 2 years ago

        Kingham is a prospect similar to the Mets Zack Wheeler or Noah Syndergaard. If the Brewers said no about Tyler Thornburg, the Mets are not getting Kingham.

        • Brian 2 years ago

          Kingham is not rated nearly as highly as Wheeler or Syndergaard. The arms in the Pittsburgh system that are on that level are Cole and Taillon. Glasnow is the next best arm and then comes Kingham but they are not at the same level as Wheeler or Syndergaard at all.

          • Rico Carson 2 years ago

            Glasnow is only rated higher than Kingham because he is a teenager who is 6’7″ and already touching 100 MPH. Kingham throws his fastball in the 93-98 range consistently and is developing his offspeed pitches nicely. I imagine that Syndergaard is probably a better prospect than Wheeler was, but Kingham is a lot like Wheeler. Taillon’s talent level is close to Harvey, and better than either Syndergaard or Wheeler.

          • Brian 2 years ago

            I think you’re inflating some of the Pirates prospects’ values just a bit. Most prospect lists have Taillon and Syndergaard about equal. Glasnow is typically in the middle of top 100 lists. I don’t think I’ve seen Kingham on a top 100 list at all. It’s entirely possible I missed something in my reading but I doubt the Pirates have 4-5 arms (Cole, Taillon, Glasnow, Kingham, Heredia) in their system that are Wheeler caliber or better.

          • Rico Carson 2 years ago

            So you think Heredia is a top 100 prospect? as of right now, I would have Kingham on a top 100 list over Heredia, but the Pirates have a strong group of big right handed pitchers who command some serious heat.

          • Destry 2 years ago

            Taillon and Syndergaard are usually ranked pretty close to each other, Glasnow and Montero are both in the back half of the top 100 lists. Glasnow usually ranking a bit higher, but I haven t seen Kingham on a top 100 so I would think Kingham would be ranked closely to Steven Matz or Michael Fulmer, if that high.

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            It’s a constant battle between who gets ranked #3,or #4

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            Glasnow still has a while to go. He has touched a 100 mph,but he has issues which he needs to settle out in the minors. He will be top 30,and maybe 20-30 next year if he gets his issues settled out.

          • Chris Koch 2 years ago

            But yet they do. Of course you’re thinking caliber as it stands today. Not potential caliber, which is what all 5 of them have a potential to be Wheeler caliber. You can’t go strictly by numbered rankings as their level and age is going to affect it.
            Glasnow/Kingham are both 2 years away. Watch by mid-season this year they both are in the top 100. And if they both show up the hype they are creating now, then maybe even a jump to the towards the top 50 by season’s end.
            See Syndergaard was a guy with 2pitches when drafted. Kingham/Glasnow are guys with 1pitch when drafted and if learned a secondary pitch become Syndergaard. The hype being raised on both is they are seeing success with the new pitches they are learning.

          • paqza 2 years ago

            “See Syndergaard was a guy with 2pitches when drafted. Kingham/Glasnow are guys with 1pitch when drafted and if learned a secondary pitch become Syndergaard.”

            Well, yeah, but if it were that easy, we’d have a lot more Verlanders and Kershaws in the big leagues. Most prospects flame out.

          • Chris Koch 2 years ago

            You don’t get the point. The reason there is hype behind these Pirates Pitchers is that their secondary offerings are showing signs of being really good. Plus pitches as the scouts call it. Before they weren’t. No it’d be different if Glasnow and Kingham were drafted in the 1st round because of having 95+MPH heat with average secondary stuff that if improved makes them #2/3 pitchers. But instead the secondary stuff stays just that, average. Those are the guys you are referring to. Or they have 2Pitches but have to find the strike zone and never do.
            And in case you hadn’t noticed, Baseball is becoming a Pitchers paradise again, we are seeing more Verlanders/Kershaws nowadays…Wheeler/Harvey being a couple of them.

          • mikefichera 2 years ago

            Consistently in the 93-98 range huh, sounds inconsistent to me.

          • Chris Koch 2 years ago

            It’s the difference of a 2seam or a 4seam fastball. Which one the Pitcher/Catcher stick with is how the number will become more consistent.

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            Wheeler was more highly praised then Syndergaard. The reason Noah isn’t as praised is ,because he lacks a strong offspeed pitch. His changeup is still in development,and has + potential,and his curve has potential to be average. Both are slightly below average now.Syndergaard has excellent control though that Wheeler doesn’t have,and both have + fastballs with ++ ceiling fastballs.
            Tailion still has control issues though,same with Cole. His ceiling is Matt Harvey though. I think Archie Bradley is the most talented in the pitching class,but with Walker slightly trailing him. Syndergaard has the Harvey ceiling definitley as well. A underatted prospect with that ceiling too is Gilioto.

          • paqza 2 years ago

            Giolito’s quite young as well. If he reaches his potential and Cecchini is a bust, Mets fans will not be happy.

          • paqza 2 years ago

            No, Rico. Not at all. Wheeler and Syndergaard were comparable to Cole/Taillon (Cole being the best of the 4 prospects). Kingham is not in the same discussion, at all. Not even close. Not yet, anyway. He could certainly improve year to year.

            Taillon is definitely in that elite prospect tier but he’s quite a bit ahead of Kingham. And Wheeler was quite one of the top 5 RHP in the Minors when he had eligibility. MLB has Taillon as the 3rd best RHP in the Minors and Syndergaard as 4th – not much of a difference there.

            In short, you’re overrating Kingham and underrating how Wheeler was perceived in 2011/2012.

          • frankiet91175 2 years ago

            I think Wheeler is going to be what Harvey was last year. Remember when Harvey came up in 2012 his numbers weren’t anything they were in 13. He took after that so watch for Wheeler to be dominant this coming season.

          • Rico Carson 2 years ago

            Glasnow is only rated higher than Kingham because he is a teenager who is 6’7″ and already touching 100 MPH. Kingham throws his fastball in the 93-98 range consistently and is developing his offspeed pitches nicely. I imagine that Syndergaard is probably a better prospect than Wheeler was, but Kingham is a lot like Wheeler. Taillon’s talent level is close to Harvey, and better than either Syndergaard or Wheeler.

          • Chris Koch 2 years ago

            Let them progress over this next season and see where their rankings turn up. I don’t think it’s about ratings as it is upside.
            Both Kingham/Glasnow have #2 to #1 upside should it all come together.
            Rankings also seem to favor 1st rd choices early while later round choices have a long hard road to climb up the ladder.

        • daveineg 2 years ago

          Thornburg has 88 major league innings under his belt with a 2.64 ERA and is penciled in as the 5th starter. Heck, he was their best starter the last month. Regardless of his relative ceiling, he’s a guy the Brewers just can’t afford to give up at this time. They have other decent guys close to ready like Nelson and Hellweg, but those guys are more iffy. Kingham is a year or two away and the Bucs have time to make up for his loss and other guys in the pipeline. But I can understand the reluctance.

        • SeanE 2 years ago

          I don’t think the Mets are getting anyone on Kinghams level without a package to go around him.

      • Rico Carson 2 years ago

        Kingham is a prospect similar to the Mets Zack Wheeler or Noah Syndergaard. If the Brewers said no about Tyler Thornburg, the Mets are not getting Kingham.

      • Mike Adamson 2 years ago

        Wasting posts with these names. Maybe someone like Andrew Oliver but teams aren’t just giving top prospects away.

      • SeanE 2 years ago

        we need a ss.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      Bwahahaha, funny. Just resign yourself to the inevitable march towards trading Davis for a projectible RH reliever. No one is giving up top prospects for a guy that the Mets all but gave up on in 2013. If the had any faith in him they would not be trading him.

      • mikefichera 2 years ago

        Met’s won’t give him away, they’d keep him first. You’ll see. They don’t have much to lose if he starts the season with them. His value is literally rock bottom right now, worst case scenario it stays the same or he gets better.

        • Mike Adamson 2 years ago

          Then they keep him but the Mets aren’t getting a top prospect for a guy they are selling low on.

          • mikefichera 2 years ago

            I agree.

          • SeanE 2 years ago

            Agreed alone the Mets aren’t getting any top prospect. At the most for Davis alone they will get a propsect who is within 10-20 of a teams farm,or a RH reliever.

        • Chris Koch 2 years ago

          3.5million is a waste on a benchplayer. And every game he winds up sitting on the bench lowers his value more. Or the Mets play him and sit disgusted that they have a .220/.310/.390 line that as well worsens his value more. You’re then looking at Davis being non-tendered next offseason and likely going the minor league contract route. That would be rock bottom.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      Bwahahaha, funny. Just resign yourself to the inevitable march towards trading Davis for a projectible RH reliever. No one is giving up top prospects for a guy that the Mets all but gave up on in 2013. If the had any faith in him they would not be trading him.

    • TheSharkTankisNasty 2 years ago

      A little piece of me died when you asked for Glasnow. Bell won’t happen either. Heredia, probably not.

    • TheSharkTankisNasty 2 years ago

      A little piece of me died when you asked for Glasnow. Bell won’t happen either. Heredia, probably not.

    • Mike Adamson 2 years ago

      Laughable… Enjoy Davis Brewers!

    • SeanE 2 years ago

      I almost died in my seat laughing. I would offer the Pirates a package,and try to land Hanson if anything.

      Hanson would be expensive though

  6. wee-bey_brice 2 years ago

    Pick one. these guys are each other’s best comps on BR

  7. 6 million for Morneau looks a lot better than 5 million for Edinson Volquez, even if Morneau commanded a two year deal.

    • Rico Carson 2 years ago

      The Pirates coaching staff specializes in making players like Volquez better. Players like Justin Morneau? not so much.

      • The Pirates front office is specializing in not making it back to the playoffs with their approach to spending. Maybe not Morneau, but standing pat isn’t a great idea either.

        • Rico Carson 2 years ago

          The Pirates have shifted their offensive approach to one that gets on base at a better rate. They don’t need to spend big in order to create a better team offense. Their pitching is the backbone of the team, and their offense is set up to improve this season.

        • Rico Carson 2 years ago

          The Pirates have put themselves into a position to get better offensively, by getting on base at a better rate. They have made fiscally responsible moves to get better, and pitching is the backbone of this team.

        • TheSharkTankisNasty 2 years ago

          We don’t have the money to make mistakes with free agents. Even if they are only 5 million. The coaching staff has a far better chance of turning around Volquez (like Melancon, Morton, Burnett, Grilli, Liriano) than fixing Morneau.

        • jalcorn427 2 years ago

          Yes, because spending big got them to 94 wins. [sarcasm]
          The Pirate front office is doing what they should do, avoid long term contracts, sign your own players to extensions, and look for value pickups on short term commitments.

      • The Pirates front office is specializing in not making it back to the playoffs with their approach to spending. Maybe not Morneau, but standing pat isn’t a great idea either.

    • Rico Carson 2 years ago

      The Pirates coaching staff specializes in making players like Volquez better. Players like Justin Morneau? not so much.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      No it doesn’t. Morneau has been worth less than 1 win combined in the last 3 years. He is done, especially on a 2 year deal.

    • jalcorn427 2 years ago

      No it doesn’t. Morneau has been worth less than 1 win combined in the last 3 years. He is done, especially on a 2 year deal.

    • SeanE 2 years ago

      Giving any money to Volquez is scary

    • Todd Smith 2 years ago

      …because Morneau worked out so well for the Pirates last year.

  8. 6 million for Morneau looks a lot better than 5 million for Edinson Volquez, even if Morneau commanded a two year deal.

  9. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 2 years ago

    Hard choice on who I’d prefer (or perhaps dislike less is more appropriate). Davis can at least post an OBP above .300 but Moreland doesn’t strikeout as much and posts higher SLG and AVG. Both have good power potential but not very complete skill sets.

    • skandy1 2 years ago

      AL vs NL nod to Moreland moving to the NL.

      • GriffeyandSizemore 2 years ago

        Moving from a very friendly hitter park to a more neutralizing park should hurt Moreland. I actually think Davis will be a better fit.

        • Marky Mark 2 years ago

          I honestly just think davis needs a change of scenery… wouldn’t shock me if he hit 30 home runs next year with a .250 batting average on a different team

  10. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 2 years ago

    Hard choice on who I’d prefer (or perhaps dislike less is more appropriate). Davis can at least post an OBP above .300 but Moreland doesn’t strikeout as much and posts higher SLG and AVG. Both have good power potential but not very complete skill sets.

  11. MITCH 2 years ago

    **Davis batted .205/.326/.334 overall in 2013 not .242/.334/.434.

    • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 2 years ago

      Nice catch, that is his career line not 2013 line.

    • MITCH 2 years ago

      Also, his platoon split posted is actually his career line against RH Pitching. In 2013 he batted .222/.356/..371 against RH Pitching.

  12. MITCH 2 years ago

    **Davis batted .205/.326/.334 overall in 2013 not .242/.334/.434.

  13. golga333 2 years ago

    The .242/.334/.434 slash line is Ike Davis’s career line, not 2013. He batted a much more paltry .205/.326/.334 last year, though he hit much better after he was recalled from Las Vegas.

  14. davis has better numbers against rhp in his career than moreland… weird i originally preferred moreland but idk now

  15. John Kreese 2 years ago

    I’d love to see some sort of Smoak/Tabata deal for the Mariners. Seems like a win/win for both teams.

  16. Erik Christensen 2 years ago

    Davis didn’t bat .242 in 2013… he batted .205

    I think you were looking at his career stats

  17. scott stevens 2 years ago

    Two weak cheap mediocre players, something the ownership,seems to love. Great job this off season, way to pay your loyal fans back.

    • StevePegues 2 years ago

      You do realize the off-season isn’t over yet, right?

      • scott stevens 2 years ago

        I realize that, but Davis and Morland, please, that would give us the 3 of the worst FA pick-ups in all of baseball. Since the off season isn’t over yet you do you have as being good quality upgrades the frugal Buc’ s would target next. Come on let’s name a few! They are robbing the team blind at he expense of the major league team.

        • StevePegues 2 years ago

          To be technical about things, trading for Davis or Moreland wouldn’t be a FA signing. And I don’t think they’d pick up both of them; it seems like they’re interested in one or the other. But anyway…

          I’m not sure that they see the team as having huge holes to fill that are best filled by expensive FA’s. We’re only talking about a platoon partner for Sanchez at 1B here. No sense paying top dollar for that in my opinion. There’s a bit of a need in RF, but anybody they put there is probably a placeholder until Polanco is ready– which is probably pretty soon. So not smart to pay big bucks there, either.

          I guess they could sign Stephen Drew. He’d be a big upgrade. But he comes with losing a draft pick and would cost a lot. And SS is somewhat set next year with some scheme of Barmes and Mercer– which probably won’t produce like Drew but will probably do well enough to get by. They could make a run for Garza, but he’s gonna want a lot of money and a lot of years. That’s a tough thing to commit to when you’re the Pirates.

          In short, I don’t think the team’s needs line up very well with the expensive FA’s on the market this off-season.

          • scott stevens 2 years ago

            I’m aware they are both trade candidates , and I don’t want either player in our line up, plus they will cost us a mid level prospect. Should have signed both Byrd and Morneau, but once again they played cheap. Lets face it Polanco may be called up this year but do you really expect him to deliver right away. As for Morneau, he would have been the perfect 2 year man at first, he is way better right now than both Davis or Moreland, once more they didn’t want to improve the club by spending money. So now were backed in a corner in trying to dumpster dive, with every GM knowing it, they are trying to squeeze us for a good prospect to obtain one of two lousy players. Lots of luck hoping to get good results from RF and 1B as well as expecting the pitching to be like last year, perhaps minus AJ, is asking a whole lot. So if your satisfied wih the owners pocketing huge profits and not spending it on the team I hope you will be happy rolling the dice with Snider, Tabata, Lambo, Gabby, EV, and what ever other cheap fix they pick up. We were not exactly a hitting machine last year.

          • Todd Smith 2 years ago

            We were not exactly a hitting machine last year…so let’s bring back all the hitters from last year. Solid plan.

          • Todd Smith 2 years ago

            Mercer hit .285 with a .772 OPS last year…Drew hit .253 with a .777 OPS last year. While Drew would be a significant upgrade over Mercer defensively, I certainly wouldn’t pay that price to replace Mercer in the lineup. I’m ok with Barmes as a late inning defensive replacement, and I do think Mercer can improve defensively with more playing time.

            I agree that the Pirates just don’t really have a lot of needs this year. Scott talks about how horrible the offseason has been, I just don’t agree. Almost every available first base option would represent an upgrade over what the Pirates got out of Garrett Jones last season. Chris Stewart is a better backup catcher than Michael McKenry. We still don’t know if Burnett plans to play next year or not. You get a full season of Cole and Morton next year and Polanco and Taillon should be joining the team mid-season. Hard to complain too much.

            The idea that the offseason and front office is a complete failure because they didn’t sign James Loney and a more exciting backup catcher is just silly.

  18. Anthony Martinez 2 years ago

    The Pirates should consider Adam Dunn for first base. The Sox would pay most of his salary and require some kind of minor leaguer with a pulse.

  19. arthur3 2 years ago

    Given that the asking price for either Moreland, or Davis, is not yet to Neil Huntingdon’s liking, I hope that he waits. Why pay a possible king’s ransom for either of these guys when the answer may be already in Pittsburgh (Lambo). He is seeking a platoon first baseman with some power, and he should not feel any desperation to acquire one immediately (it will cost him more if he does).

    • AceRuby 2 years ago

      The Mets are basically asking for one good player in return I don’t see that being much of a “kings ransom” like people are thinking right now. I can understand why Alderson would ask for that as Davis has the potential easily to bounce back and hit well again.

      • arthur3 2 years ago

        The Pirates allowed Garrett Jones to walk with a much more impressive resume than Ike Davis. He signed with the Marlins at a salary close to what Davis will garner in arbitration this year. Ike Davis, like the Pirates’ Travis Snider, has shown glimmers of MLB potential, but each has been general disappointments for their teams. Bottom line, Davis may have potential, but the Mets management does not believe it and wants him gone. At this point in time, why would any rival GM want to pay Alderson’s price when even his own team does not hold him in high regard?

  20. Tommets 2 years ago

    An Ike Davis return wouldn’t be so big if it were a major league player. I’d expect a mediocre reliever. I’d like to see them trade for JaCoby Jones who is a SS with raw potential and is the Pirates 20th best prospect. He could be a bust or could become a really good shortstop. Someone like that would be a Davis return. I’d like to see Sandy trade Montero in a package to get a major league shortstop and next year sign a 1st baseman.

    • Jake L 2 years ago

      Don’t think Jones can be traded yet. Players aren’t eligible to be traded until a year after they are drafted.

  21. Rizzo44 2 years ago

    I’d take Moreland over Davis all day.

  22. Kevin Jones 2 years ago

    I guess the Pirates are not interested in Adam Lind anymore? he would also make a really good platoon guy with Sanchez.

    • MrAwesome 2 years ago

      Toronto asked for Neil Walker in return. No surprise Lind is no longer rumored to be dealt.

  23. soxfan123123 2 years ago

    I’m not to familiar with the pirates system, but why did they trade Dickerson? I thought he was supposed to be a solid player.

    • Jake L 2 years ago

      Dickerson played 1B but was really an OF. They probably felt his bat wasn’t good enough for 1B and they don’t really need any more OF’s in the organization so they traded him. Confused me but doesn’t worry me in the long run.

  24. ferris 2 years ago

    3 way trade…..moreland to pirates , dunn to tx. , 2ptbnl to w.sox.

  25. Razalnek 2 years ago

    I see a 3-way. Mets get Gregorius. Pirates get Davis. AZ gets Kingham.

  26. LetsGoBucs92122 2 years ago

    I’d rather have Moreland than Davis. It all depends on asking price though. Having one of those platoon with Gaby would be nice. Doesn’t put as much pressure on Lambo having to be the platoon bat at 1st.

  27. FOmeOLS 2 years ago

    Who will backup 1B in Texas if Moreland leaves?

  28. Md2t23 2 years ago

    So knowing that we need OF help. Who would we get from the Bucs if we send them Moreland. I’ve still seen no prospective trades.

  29. Zak A 2 years ago

    I’d buy low too.

  30. swoboda 2 years ago

    How long is this Ike Davis saga going to last?

    Have Pete Frankin (Mark Langston) call me in April with the report on this trade please.

    I have a life!

  31. skandy1 2 years ago

    looked lost last year..

  32. John Kreese 2 years ago

    Isn’t Tabata the #4 outfielder? I don’t think he’s as valuable as you think.

  33. macdice 2 years ago

    How about Travis Snider and Tony Sanchez for Smoak. Mariners need OFers and could use a backup catcher for Zunino.

  34. also he still is very young. if he can play like he did the last three months last year you have a shot to trade him and actually get something of value back once polanco is ready

  35. Jake L 2 years ago

    Sanchez isn’t going anywhere because he is the replacement for Martin when he leaves in FA next year. Sanchez is needed to hold the fort down until McGuire is ready.

  36. Anthony Martinez 2 years ago

    but hit 20-30 hr and drive 80-100rbi’s. The sox don’t need anymore though with Abreu and Konerko around.

  37. Todd Smith 2 years ago

    I like Tabata, but I still think I’d take a Smoak for Tabata deal. Smoak had an .839 OPS against RHP last season. That’s much more useful in a platoon at first base with 3 years of control. You said it best…in two months, Tabata is just another backup outfielder for the Pirates. They can manage the 2 months in RF with Lambo, Snider and Decker.

  38. skandy1 2 years ago

    I guess that says it all….660 for the 2013 season. 900 for how many games and against what teams and pitching(especially at the end of the season when roster is expanded) Stat is a stat.. 101K’s in 317 AB’s 2013. 141 in 519AB’s in 2012. He was lost in 2013…

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