AL East Notes: Price, Tanaka, Yankees, Almanzar

When the offseason began, many speculated that David Price's time with the Rays was coming to an end, as the ace southpaw would be traded at the height of his remaining value (two years of team control) and Tampa Bay could save money and add even more quality prospects to their system.  The perception amongst rival executives now, however, is that Price will stay put through the coming season, ESPN's Buster Olney reports in his latest Insider-only column.  "Ninety percent chance he stays," one rival executive said. "The [trade] market hasn't materialized."  MLBTR readers seem to agree with that sentiment — according to a recent poll, less than 31% of respondees feel that Price will be pitching elsewhere by Opening Day.

Here's some more news from around the AL East…

  • Also from Olney's piece, some executives believe the Yankees and Dodgers will be the two final players in the race for Masahiro Tanaka.  The Yankees have the greater need for pitching and perhaps even more pressure to sign Tanaka now that most of Alex Rodriguez's salary is off the books for 2014.  The Dodgers, meanwhile, have shown they'll pay any price for a player they want, and are "more shameless in their bidding," according to some rival executives.
  • If the Yankees can't sign Tanaka, they could again focus on staying under the $189MM luxury tax limit, WEEI.com's Rob Bradford speculates.  Rodriguez's suspension could make the Yankees' payroll decision more difficult, as had A-Rod's 2014 salary still been fully owed, New York could've added Tanaka and other needed upgrades with the assumption that they'd be well over the $189MM threshold.  If Tanaka signs elsewhere, however, Bradford isn't sure that the Yankees would be willing to pay another big luxury tax penalty for one of the other big free agent starters (Ubaldo Jimenez, Ervin Santana or Matt Garza) and they surely wouldn't go over $189MM just to sign a closer.
  • If recent signees Delmon Young and Alexi Casilla make the Orioles' roster, it could hurt their chances of keeping Rule 5 Draft selection Michael Almanzar, Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun writes.  Almanzar was taken by the O's from the Red Sox in last month's draft, and if Almanzar isn't on the Major League roster for the entire 2014 season, Baltimore has to offer him back to Boston for $25K.
  • CSNBaltimore.com's Rich Dubroff predicts 24 of the 25 players who he feels will make the Orioles' Opening Day roster.  The 25th spot is being left open for a starting pitcher from outside the organization, as Dubroff feels the O's will add a starter between now and the start of Spring Training.


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64 Comments on "AL East Notes: Price, Tanaka, Yankees, Almanzar"


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Vmmercan
1 year 5 months ago

Does anyone know where the Yankees’ currently stand with payroll? Last I read, it was at 151 million and change, before arb and excluding the 26-40 man. I would think they have about 20 million to spend and can still stay under 189? My prediction is they go as high as six years and 120 million for Tanaka. Otherwise, why not sign Rodney and Balfour if the years are right and then add Arroyo?

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pastlives
1 year 5 months ago

because a-rod comes back next year and their luxury tax number goes way up

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East Coast Bias
1 year 5 months ago

So what? If they get under this year, their luxury tax percentage resets from 50% to 17.5%.

No one cares about next year’s payroll. This is a golden opportunity to get under to reset the percentage for the next few years.

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pastlives
1 year 5 months ago

I don’t know, apparently they care lol, I’m just reading the article

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East Coast Bias
1 year 5 months ago

I don’t think you understand how the luxury tax works. Maybe read those articles instead? lol

Luxury tax number never goes “way up” as you said. It only increases 10% per year. So if the Yankees are at 40% right now, next year they will have to pay 50% of whatever they spend over the 189m threshold. If they can get under 189m this year, next year they will only have to pay 17.5%. Following year, 27.5%. Following year 37.5%. Etc… Until they get under the threshold again and reset it to 17.5% again.

That’s why it doesn’t matter what happens next year, because the rate will be significantly lower once it resets.

Also, the threshold goes up. In a few years when they may want to get below the threshold again, it won’t be 189m, maybe something like 200m.

Look it up, it’s all on the wiki page.

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pastlives
1 year 5 months ago

Sorry I should have been clearer, I meant payroll, not sure what i meant by luxury tax number haha…meaning that they have to prepare for A-Rod’s 20M+ to be back onto the books after this year

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Vmmercan
1 year 5 months ago

They do, but they would only be at 189 for one season. After that, presumably they would go back to around 200 where they usually are. That’s 11 million right there and doesn’t account for Kuroda, Gardner, Soriano, Ichiro, Jeter or anybody else’s expiring contracts.

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LazerTown
1 year 5 months ago

But that tax line will go up because salaries are also increasing. So when it does get to 200M I would expect NY to still over it.

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Nicholas D'Esposito
1 year 5 months ago

Next year has nothing to do with it, the tax threshold resets if they are under 189 for all of 2014.

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jjs91
1 year 5 months ago

RAB had a nice writeup. They are basically over with bonuses unless they trade someone.

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Kev D7
1 year 5 months ago

None of those bonuses will come to fruition. Not one.

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LazerTown
1 year 5 months ago

No chance that Kuroda pitches 190 innings?

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jjs91
1 year 5 months ago

i’m pretty sure kuroda has pitched more innings before. And if roberts doesn’t get his sizemore will cost than something. Either way it’s 2 million or so under cap.

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Kev D7
1 year 5 months ago

My mistake, I had read the post that only included the Jeter and soriano bonuses that are indeed unreachable.

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jjs91
1 year 5 months ago

Ya it would be a miracle if those happened.

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LazerTown
1 year 5 months ago

Axisa from RAB did a nice writeup on it yesterday.
per him
under contract: 153.766M
Arb projected: 14.8M
pre Arb: ~2-5M
other: 12.085M

That is about 185.65M if you take the higher pre-arb numbers, and arbs are as expected That only gives you 4M for bonuses, of which Roberts and Kuroda could easily attain 3M of that if healthy.

Basically if 189 is their plan they are done for the winter.

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Vmmercan
1 year 5 months ago

Yeesh. It kind of seems like it’s just media speculation then. They have been in on Tanaka since before A-Rod’s decision and if they’re already right up against it, it would appear they don’t care about the payroll.

My guess would be they go all out on Tanaka and if LA beats them anyway, then they will stay away from the other starters simply because they aren’t worth the investment. It would appear the plan will be: Tanaka and Balfour, or Arroyo and maybe dumping half of Ichiro’s salary and grabbing Balfour anyway.

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Brandon.
1 year 5 months ago

According to Ken Rosenthal, the Yankees have somewhere between 8-10 million left to spend this off-season in order to stay under the 189 mark. This is because they need to save about 5 million for mid-season callups and other expenses (which I can’t recall). So yes, technically, they only have 151 million committed, but they only have 8-10 more they can spend.

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Light_tower_power
1 year 5 months ago

I think Cubs fans are gonna start getting restless with their rebuild if they aren’t major players for Tanaka… Ricketts needs to step up to the plate and stop worrying about mascots

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RobbyH619
1 year 5 months ago

Unless you toss 7 years 120ish mill at Tanaka the cubs have no shot at signing him. You’d be better off trying to sign Garza and Arroyo to 3 year deals each.

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schaddy24
1 year 5 months ago

There is no reason to think they wont spend that much. Reports are they will offer “nine figures”, which although vague, would mean they will be in it. IMHO it makes sense to blow him away with an offer. He would speed up the rebuild; and with their current low payroll even if he’s a bust it’s not like hes hurting the luxury tax or something.

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Trock
1 year 5 months ago

My thoughts exactly. There payroll is so low right now, getting a guy like Tanaka to start anchoring the rotation is a good way to spend money. If all their position players pay off like they think they will, they should be able to field a really cheap team, and be able to spend all that payroll on solidifying their rotation since that is a weak spot in their farm system.

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schaddy24
1 year 5 months ago

Exactly. Then by the time the hitting prospects need new contracts, they will have the new TV deal/network. That will pay the team billions similar to the Dodgers/Yanks. I’m excited to see what pitchers we sign next winter with so many solid arms becoming FA’s. Adding Tanaka, resigning Shark, and adding Scherzer or Shields next winter would be a huge step in the right direction.

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RobbyH619
1 year 5 months ago

Huh look at that. New agreement with NPB and the two teams with the most money are projected to sign him…..cause nobody saw this coming. Oh wait I did. Deals a joke that heavily favors the MLB but NPB found a way to stick it to the MLB by negotiating with it’s players on a posting fee of its own.

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MB923
1 year 5 months ago

No where does it say he is surely signing with the Yankees or Dodgers. I wonder how many of these executives said the Mariners would sign Cano.

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RobbyH619
1 year 5 months ago

When you toss 10 years 240 mill at a guy sure that’s a dark horse candidate. If a team wants to toss 8years 160mill for tanaka sure dark horse candidate. But they’ll be criticized for overpaying like the mariners were. Realistically he’ll take the largest contract with the intention of kicking back to Rakuten; doubt many teams are prepping 130 mill bids. If I were a gm I wouldn’t break the 120 mill threshold but again anybody but the Yankees or dodgers, even angels rangers mariners, toss over 120 mill and get into a bidding war with the Yankees dodgers angels mariners rangers they’ll be scrutinized for over paying more than the 5 teams will be.

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Kev D7
1 year 5 months ago

Well its better than the arranged marriage that a player had to live through before just to pitch in the MLB.

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monkeydung
1 year 5 months ago

as a Dodgers fan, I wouldn’t be upset if he wasn’t on the Dodgers, but I would be upset if he was a Yankee.

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Bleed_Orange
1 year 5 months ago

So you would be upset if he wasn’t a Dodger then?

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Vmmercan
1 year 5 months ago

I know how deep that rivalry is and how the Yankees can impact the Dodgers’ NL West chances, so I feel for you.

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I Want My Bird
1 year 5 months ago

It’s been decided that the Giants, Rockies, Padres, and Dbacks will form the NL West (2) division. The Dodgers will instead conduct public pool exercise exhibitions at various scenic locations around L.A. such as: Malibu, Beverly Hills, etc. Puig will also be at the local car racetracks. Then the Dodgers will rejoin MLB for the playoffs. Reports that Tanaka is actually not a good swimmer, makes his signing curious then, unless it’s just another case of ‘sticking it to the man’.

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BlueSkyLA
1 year 5 months ago

Add Australia to the pool tour, and you’re done for the day.

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John Kreese
1 year 5 months ago

Interesting speculation on the luxury tax issue. So signing Tanaka could lead to more spending for NY potentially or not signing means they could be done. Should be a fun next 10 days or so to see what happens in Gotham.

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WazBazbo
1 year 5 months ago

Yeah… it’s almost odd thinking that the entire Tanaka saga has to be over in ten days max. I’m guessing several free agent SPs can’t wait!