As the Red Sox continue to flounder through the month of July, there are increasing levels of speculation that Boston could sell off some short-term veterans — even if they continue to opportunistically look to add longer-term pieces who’ll help in 2023 and beyond. To that end, ESPN’s Buster Olney said on today’s Baseball Tonight podcast that designated hitter J.D. Martinez “is out in the trade market.” Boston was recently swept by the division-rival Blue Jays, dropping them to 17 games back in the AL East and three back in the Wild Card chase.
The 34-year-old Martinez (35 next month) would immediately become one of the best bets on the market if the Sox indeed do intend to trade him within the next week. Fresh off his fifth career All-Star appearance, Martinez remains a standout bat, hitting .302/.368/.481 with nine homers on the season. He may not be the 45-homer threat he was at his 2017-18 peak, but Martinez’s 8.7% walk rate and 23.6% strikeout rate are both right in line with his career levels, and he’s been 36% better than league-average at the plate by measure of wRC+.
Martinez is in the final season of a frontloaded five-year, $110MM contract that calls for a $19.375MM salary for the current season. He’s still owed about $7.55MM of that salary between now and season’s end, as of this writing, but for a hitter of his caliber it’s a generally reasonable rate of pay.
The extent to which the Red Sox are attempting to move Martinez isn’t yet known. Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom typically takes an open-minded approach to the trade deadline and offseason alike, so it’s certainly feasible that he’s simply entertaining offers from other clubs. At the same time, if the Sox have determined that they don’t want to make a qualifying offer to Martinez at what will likely be a comparable rate to his current salary, they could more aggressively contact other clubs and try to initiate negotiations themselves.
Making Martinez available would obviously bring about further questions regarding the Sox’ roster. If they’re willing to move Martinez, it stands to reason that other clubs would inquire about the team’s other slate of pending free agents, at the very least. Nathan Eovaldi would quickly become the top name on the rental market for starting pitchers, and the Sox also have catcher Christian Vazquez, starters Michael Wacha and Rich Hill, utilityman Enrique Hernandez and reliever Matt Strahm set to reach free agency this winter.
Wacha, Hill, Strahm and Hernandez are all on the injured list at the moment, but all four are progressing toward returns (Twitter link via MassLive.com’s Chris Cotillo). Hill is slated for a rehab assignment beginning tomorrow, while Wacha recently threw a simulated game. Strahm is only on the IL due to a wrist contusion (the All-Star break likely contributed to the factor to place him on the IL at all). Hernandez will be swinging a bat by the end of the week.
Of course, those players may not be considered quite as “easy” to replace as Martinez. While there’s no Martinez-level bat readily available to take his place, the Sox do have top prospect Triston Casas in Triple-A. Bobby Dalbec is playing third base right now with Rafael Devers on the injured list but could get a look at DH — or the Sox could simply use the designated hitter slot as a means of rotation their regulars and keeping them fresh down the stretch.
While a brief rental of a designated hitter might not generally be expected to produce a significant return, it at least bears mentioning that the Twins were able to pry minor league right-handers Joe Ryan and Drew Strotman from the Rays in last summer’s Nelson Cruz trade. Ryan, then an upper-level starter who’d recently pitched for Team USA in the Olympics, quickly found his way to the big leagues and has been Minnesota’s best starter since last September’s debut. That’ll likely be seen as the gold standard for rental trades of this nature for some time, however, and it’s not necessarily reasonable to expect the Red Sox — or any team — to pull off a return of that quality in exchange for a rental bat.
Obviously any talk of the Red Sox trading rental players will bring about speculation regarding shortstop Xander Bogaerts, who can and almost certainly will opt out of the final three years and $60MM remaining on his contract at season’s end. Bogaerts, however, has full no-trade protection under that contract. Paired with the opt-out provision on the deal, that makes a trade involving him a difficult (albeit not impossible) one to envision. ESPN’s Jeff Passan noted this morning that other teams expect Bogaerts to remain put even if Boston sells off other short-term pieces.
Francys01
Interesting. The Red Sox might move one or two players that are going to be free agent at the end of the season in order to acquire some good prospects. I like Bogaerts, he would perfectly fit in the Cardinals lineup.
DonOsbourne
I have always wanted Bogaerts. But where would you play him and what would you do with Gorman?
DarkSide830
That’s a good problem to have, especially with the DH now in play.
DonOsbourne
I guess my third question and fourth questions would be: who are we giving up, and would Boston be interested in DeJong to replace Xander at SS at least for the remainder of this season?
Francys01
Well, to acquire Bogaerts we would have to give a lot and there is a chance that we have to trade either Alec Burleson which he is having an excellent season, Michael McGreevy or Matthew Liberatore and also include some other prospects from Double A or Triple A.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I think the acquisition of Story was partly about moving him back to shortstop if Bogaerts left.
Bobby smac9
exactly Fink
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
@Fink Story’s been gold glove caliber at second, it’s probably easier to keep him there and find a free agent shortstop
Poster formerly known as . . .
I don’t know if it’d be easier to find a free-agent shortstop than a free-agent second baseman if the Sox are planning on staying on a budget. The top three shortstop free agents besides Bogaerts would be Trea Turner, Carlos Correa and Dansby Swanson, assuming Correa opts out and the White Sox exercise their team option on Tim Anderson. None of those three will come cheap. It’s a big drop-off in talent from there.
kingbum
Ideally the acquisition of Story was to move Bogaerts to 3rd, Devers to DH, let JD walk and move KeKe back to 2nd. Bogey wants no part in playing 3rd though so he will be gone in the off-season. Story was insurance against that possibility as well. Unless you are the Mets where you can play SS everyday and contend and be on a team that can pay ya in the off-season Bogaerts isn’t moving unfortunately. Boston will have to QO him after he opts out. Devers is a young Big Papi you gotta keep him so the best two trade pieces are Whitlock and Martinez. You just extended Whitlock so that leaves JD. San Diego could use JD Martinez…..
kingbum
Forgot about Lindor….Jeez this is going to age well lmao oops
deweybelongsinthehall
I’m not suggesting Whitlock be traded but his being signed long term doesn’t automatically mean he’s untouchable. Bloom has a vision I assume. Story at $26m might fit better than Bogie at $31m for two more years. While you lose average, you don’t lose ribbies and gain on defense. Devers is the key. While he seems to have improved at third, he’s still a liability there. While the team won in 18 with him, they need to DH him at least 50% in 23. The problem is not everyone enjoys DHing and they should be testing him at DH when he comes back.
kingbum
Might be a good reason as any to trade JD…..this season is going nowhere they overperformed last season….
bighiggy
Gorman and libertore, which I hate to say it, are probably trade bait. If tou can get bogaerts without giving up the farm, I say do it. The cards really need pitching. I’d swing for the fences though and go after Soto or ohtani
YourDreamGM
No need to trade Gorman and libertore. Even an elite player doesn’t cost that much for 2 months. Look at what the Cubs received last year for their big 3 as comps.
JoeBrady
ourDreamGM3 hours ago
No need to trade Gorman and libertore.
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I love Bogaerts, but if the RS got Gorman for him, I’d drive him to StL myself. Heck, I’ll pick up DeJong’s salary as well.
jmi1950
I’d be fine with Bogey & Eovaudi for Gorman.
JoeBrady
I would as well. I thought last night, despite the score, was a good outing for selling Eovaldi. He had a little more velocity and threw 95 pitches. Only 1 K is concerning, but the outing provides confidence that his back is not an issue.
Francys01
DonOsbourne- Back to the minors and Edman can play once again second base. I know we have several players that can play shortstop like Donovan, Edman, Sosa and DeJong that he’s in minors, but if we could acquire Bogaerts the lineup and defense would be on another level.
DonOsbourne
I think Higgy’s probably right. I’d say Gorman and Liberatore are getting traded. I’m actually fine with that. Gorman is going to be a fine player, but 2B is not his long term home and Walker is coming on fast. I’m not high on Liberatore. Trade him while he has value.
gomer33
His D takes away from his bat more than the stats show in my humble opinion.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Defense is factored into WAR — that’s how good he’s been with the bat. I assume we’re both talking about Bogaerts.
mlb1225
I know this doesn’t really affect his value, but I think it’s wild and shows the difference in offensive environment to just a few years ago that Xander has the same OPS+ this year compared to 2020, but his OPS is nearly 40 points lower in ’22.
fan4life
Funny Sale hasn’t been mentioned. Unstable mentally (in baseball terms), injury prone on and off the field but still capable of being a difference maker. I think if they combine X-man, Martinez, and Devers for trade, they would be in a position to build around Trevor Story and get pitching back to normal.
kingbum
Trade Nate keep Sale….bigger potential upside…..I’m not going to hold a baseball hitting him in the hand and ribs against him…. arm problems sure but these two injuries are not from over use
Vtbmpskier
I would love to see a bogey maybe even eovaldi deal to the cards for gorman/libertore (bloom actually drafted him) or possibly Edman?
carlos15
Mets should pursue him
Bk11235 2
If they do contreras robertson trade probably not
Silent Bob23
Cubs are going to want way too much for Contreras. Mets will not give up one of their top prospects for a rental.
Bk11235 2
Mauricio dom and butto
Cosmo2
Too much. I wouldn’t give up Mauricio for a rental and Martinez is very good, but he’s not what he used to be.
YourDreamGM
@Silent Bob23 Not a Pete Crow fan?
carlos15
Agreed, but JD is an enticing bat and no one can add power to the degree he can. If they go for JD they’ll have to bring up Alvarez instead of trading for a catcher. They’ll trade Dom for sure but I doubt they give up any of their top 3 prospects. Robertson would be a nice add. Too bad they traded Holderman, he was effective and threw strikes which is better than you can say about Lugo of Rodriguez or anyone not named Drew Smith or Diaz.
metslvt17
I disagree. The redsox and cubs are looking for different types of players. The redsox may be interested in younger, cheaper major leaguers like JD/Dom, while the cubs deal may start with a young prospect like Mauricio. I can see a scenerio where an aggressive Mets front office brings in JD, Contreras, and Robertson for Dom Smith, Khalil Lee, Mauricio, Butto, and a couple lower level guys.
BobbyAyala94
No one wants Dominic Smith.
angt222
Dom for JD straight up.
Bill M
Sox would have to throw in Babe Ruth
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Hmmm…Ruth already got thrown in, not sure that worked out well for the Sox
Cosmo2
And the Sawx traded Ruth for cash. To think, if they’d held out only about a century or so they could’ve gotten Andujar and Frazier.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
And maybe Joey? The Sox fans would have sent him to the gallows.
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Cosmo let that be a lesson for us in real life. Cash is King when times get tough. Assets can be had on the cheap.
MLB-1971
Bill M – yes, they can stand Ruth’s corpse in the corner. He now takes walks well, but is very slow on his swing. He no longer is able to field much….everything falls in. Pretty tough to field well when you are deceased.
Samuel
Ah-HA! A name player might be available.
So have the Mets, above the Cardinals, and below the Padres. All we need is a post for him going to the Yankees (Hey! Isn’t Stanton out for 10 days?!?!?!?) and we can go onto the next rumored player.
rmullig2
The Mets won’t move Lindor and Bogaerts is not going to accept a trade to play a different position.
Rsox
Going from top wild card to not in the playoffs at all will do that. Sweeping the Guardians and the Brewers would likely stave off a fire sale but i can’t really see them sweeping the Brewers
JaysForDayz
Sweeping? Hah, they’d be lucky to win 3 combined games from these 2 series…
mcmillankmm
Well they are 1 for 1 so far
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
And down an insurmountable (for them) amount tonight
DarkSide830
Philles. Defense is for the weak after all.
brucebochyisthemarlboroman
If they could get Eovaldi and Kike in any way that doesn’t cost too much I’d be ecstatic. But I don’t see that happening.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Always considered Seattle a nice spot for JD Martinez. The problem might be though he’s a right handed bat (we need a lefty) and his DH position is problematic due to the logjam of outfielders we have. But one could argue the amount of offense he could bring would be worth it for the stretch drive…
CALgoldenBears
Seattle should go after Joc Peterson
Cap & Crunch
I’ve pondered a Chris Taylor for JD trade – These trades hardly ever occur anymore but I think it could be interesting for both sides
Bos- Gets a really good player controlled reasonably the next 3~4 years with their open payroll. Free agency next winter won’t be as kind as a Ct 3 contract with a ton of buyers and weak free agent list outside Ss (something they already have)
Lad- Gets off future payroll to re-sign Turner in the offseason and gets the best player for this half year. Jake Lamb and Trayce Thompson make this easier to stomach – Lux is also Lf capable and they have a glut of 2b guys coming up thru the system soon for 2023 and beyond. Really like Ct 3 but man somethings gotta give on that future ledger sheet and he’s obv the guy to move off of while still getting value here-
Lad and Bos have a rich history of these ledger gymnastic trades …maybe?
BleedingBlue162232
Without trying to sound rude, there is zero chance the Dodgers are trading Taylor for JD. Taylor’s defensive versatility and ability, plus his generally clutch hitting – for 4 more years – far outweighs anything JD Martinez can provide for them.
Also, as you mentioned, Taylor is on a very team friendly contract, especially considering the coming weak free agent class.
BleedingBlue162232
Sorry, 3 more years. For some reason I thought it was a 5 year deal he signed in the off season, lol.
Cap & Crunch
No prob Bleeding-
I was expecting both fanbases to rip this one up to shreds –
Bos – Fans noting the 200+ k pace and wanting cheap prospects more
Lad- Not wanting to give a fan fav up who is definitely clutch-
It cuts deeper than surface level tho for me- This is ALL under the construct that the Dodgers are looking to duck the CBT 2023 . Taylors versatilty doesn’t play as great for LAD as it would other teams, especially now that lux can essentially do it all as well. He also had arm problems earlier and Roberts said he’d be a strict OF moving forward
Tre Turner and Ss in particular are of much greater need long term than a LF-
Now if your under the guise LAD will just blow past the CBT next year (and pretty much every year) then sure, its an easy keep Taylor scenario forever
@Blueskies- We had a similar discussion on Pollock preseason . I suggested trading him and you kinda had the same response to the one you have today – I know you were a big Pollock guy but when I suggested this same kinda ledger gymnastic trade preseason (that they made weeks later) your response was eerily similar to todays- Dodgers have a creative front office, I wouldn’t discount creative moves made even if they are longshots
**Big hurdle for me is Ct3 just signed undermarket to stay in LA…Kinda bad look to trade him 1/2 year into the ext. That be my major hang-up, it is kinda dirty to CT3 but from a ledger standpoint Id do this…
Interested to hear from any Sox fans on this trade idea
BlueSkies_LA
Not a big Pollock guy, just not one of his many detractors. You are also remembering something I never said about the trade. Anyway, creative yes, but the reason this deal doesn’t work is because it’s terrible for the Dodgers. I also don’t believe in below market deals. They are the unicorns of baseball. The Dodgers seldom extend players, even ones they hope to sign back. They let them test the open market before re-signing them, and that’s a pretty terrible strategy if the purpose is lowballing them. Because it isn’t the purpose.
JoeBrady
Cap & Crunch4 hours ago
I was expecting both fanbases to rip this one up to shreds –
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I’ll jump n from the Boston side. Taylor is on pace for 240 Ks per 600 ABs, and I have no interest in $45M over the next three years. We already got the right guy from you when we got Kiki.
And, FWIW, assuming he is healthy, Kiki is the guy you should be after. He’s been everything that LA fans said he was when he left.
Cap & Crunch
110% on Kiki Joe but this was a JD post and I pondered this when his name/subject matter came up
Knew I could count on you for an honest answer from team Red-
I actually think the values pretty close tbh, Boston probably wins by a nose value wise but they each scratch each others backs as they have a buncha times this century on the ledger and neither team loses prospects this time
Trading any newly signed non arb contract for a value is EXTREMEMLY tough considering you just beat the market on 29 other teams 4 months ago …I don’t know if the posters above know that all too well. I wonder how they view Lads 2023 CBT line as well when weighing in
* Ct3 did sign a bit low to stay here tho, so that’s kinda dirty; thad really be my biggest hang up here. Easy to type these scenarios tougher when you know the dude personally and moving families etc around is involved
But mission accomplished I got 2 No’s from both sides……has to be close (ish) although these deals hardly ever happen
BlueSkies_LA
So now you’re saying you know Chris Taylor personally?
JoeBrady
Knew I could count on you for an honest answer from team Red-
But mission accomplished I got 2 No’s from both sides……
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IRT an honest answer, I am 50% RS fanatic, and 50% BB fanatic. I can slip on the RS side, but I have too much respect for BB to not be completely honest.
And yes, if both sides go away vaguely unhappy, then you’ve done a good job. That said, while I am not a fan of that contract, I might not hate it either. He’s old, but he is not ancient. If he looks okay at 2nd, we can move Story to SS. We could use a righty backup glove in the OF.
And honestly, I don’t think that highly of JD. If we decided to compete, and kept him. I’d offer him a QO, but not care if accepted or not.
Cap & Crunch
IRT an honest answer, I am 50% RS fanatic, and 50% BB fanatic. I can slip on the RS side, but I have too much respect for BB to not be completely honest.
I try my best to do the same
When I posted this I was looking for both sides to riip it up. This trade will obv never happen just wanted to kick up some dust and see the responses- Knew I could count on Lad fans to come in hot and heavy, I sadly must admit we do not have the most educated fanbase when it comes to the MLB marketplace
* Blue Skies -You loved Pollock more than Randy Marsh liked Columbus Day
BlueSkies_LA
Trying not to completely hate this idea, but I still do. When Taylor comes back, Lux returns to mostly playing 2B where he’s defensively more at home. Thompson slides into a bench/platoon role, where the Dodgers are pretty thin this year. Most of all, Taylor is way too tall a price for Martinez, a guy with a big bat but no defensive value whatsoever at this point (and a rental besides). They would DFA Thompson before they’d trade Taylor, especially for someone who can’t play a position.
bamck
As a Sox fan, I’d do it.
YourDreamGM
Any sox fan should want to do it. Taylor would bring much more.
Samuel
Feel there are more players available than what’s been reported…..and some of those are pure speculation.
C Yards Jeff
@Samuel; I was so focused on Mancini and Bell going somewhere, the thought of a Martinez being moved was off my radar. To your point; makes sense there’s a lot going on between GMs that we are unaware of. IE sounds like Bell has 4 teams in serious pursuit of his services. He can’t play for all four…. 3 of those GMs are gonna have to connect elsewhere.
Pedro 4 Delino
Would SD be willing to trade for JD? They probably want an outfielder more but they need some offense.
Also, shouldn’t Xander want to be traded because it will kill the possibility he gets a QO? Or maybe I’m missing something.
If Boston deals JD and Xander will it effect the market for Soto or does the extra years of control make that a moot point?
Bobby smac9
@ pie, You’re right, he should want to be traded to avoid the QO
rmullig2
SD is not picking up 7.5M in additional payroll.
Pedro 4 Delino
@rmullig2
Unless SD is able to move Snell and his big contract. Bloom should be familiar but I would think Boston might want to work out a deal for Nick Martinez if they could get him to cancel his opt outs.
Who knows maybe SD is happy standing pat or more interested in bargain hitters.
JoeBrady
As a RS fan, if SD wanted to throw in Snell’s ~ $22M/1.5 seasons, in order to seal a deal, I’d be open to that. Snell way under=performs his talent, but he still has periods where no one hits him.
And if there is one thing that I am sure about, it’s that we should throw in money in every deal.
DBH1969
I don’t know how much the the QO will effect a player like Xander. I am guessing most teams wouldn’t care about the pick.
99socalfrc
I was thinking of SD too, they could send back Lamet, Myers and a prospect of the Red Sox choosing. That gets the Red Sox the prospect they will want, an expiring deal at year end in Myers and a 2023 project on the cheap in Lamet. Padres get to offload some salary to offset the $$$ owed to JD
This is probably the deal SD needs, not Soto.
BigGarg
Losing 27-5 will do a good job of breaking you.
whyhayzee
I remember a 19-8 loss that had the same effect.
Whoops.
B-Strong
Well we lost 28-5 so…….damn
jmi1950
The 2003 Marlins lost 25-3 to the RS in June — and still went on to beat the NYY in the WS,
Big whiffa
Boston needs to commit to a full rebuild. Sell em all off and reload a decent farm already. Create cap and sign when next slew comes to majors. If not they’ll stay second fiddle to yanks
Samuel
Actually, that’s pretty much what they been doing since Mr. Bloom got there.
And not just a rebuild – a restructuring of the entire organization. Local fans are often the last to know. Look at the Jays fans complaining on here for 3 years before it became clear what Shapiro was doing and that it was what the owners hired him to do.
Fever Pitch Guy
Sam – In this instance, the educated Sox fans knew EXACTLY what was going on since 2019.
Henry became furious after Cora’s managing torpedoed the defending champions that season, despite having the biggest payroll by far in MLB.
Henry then said why bother spending so much if the results aren’t there?
At that point he decided to move on from the high-spending Dombrowski and hire the budget-conscience Bloom to try and replicate the success Bloom had in Tampa.
Ever since, the Red Sox have been under the cap and this year will be no exception after one or two contracts get traded away by the deadline. I said that over and over before the season, the goal is to replace every “big” Dombrowski contract with a cheaper one. In Xander’s case, Bloom signed a replacement who will be much cheaper than what Xander will be getting after this season..
These are dark days indeed for Red Sox fans, but most of us saw this coming 3 years ago.
C Yards Jeff
@Fever Pitch Guy; Thanks for the recent history insight. Through your owner’s vision, sounds like he’s got the right GM in there to get to brighter days and I bet soon. Os fan here. It’s been dark too long down here, but things are looking up. Elias was the right hire. John Angelos is making his dad proud. Here’s to some healthy competition between us in the not too distant future.
Fever Pitch Guy
Jeff – I hope you’re right about Bloom, I really do.
And I’m very happy to see your O’s competitive again. Baltimore is a great baseball town with a lot of history, I’ll be rooting for them once my team is out of contention.
JoeBrady
And not just a rebuild – a restructuring of the entire organization.
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I refer to it as a rich team rebuild. You sign okay guys to short-term contracts, while continuing to collect prospects. Once you get under the burden of your l/t contracts, and have a good farm, we should be capable of winning for a while.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – Rich teams shouldn’t need rebuilds. They should perpetually bring up homegrown talent and supplement with the occasional big ticket elite free agent signings and trades.
“Rebuild” is a code word owners use for years when they don’t want to spend as much money.
JoeBrady
Not at all. Sometimes teams get old and decline. Bringing up prospects every year is not an exact science. Giants, Cubs, LAA, Phillies, TO have all struggled recently.
carlos15
They have plenty of cap space on account of there not being a cap in baseball.
Fever Pitch Guy
carlos – You’re absolutely right. My bad, I meant luxury tax threshold.
whyhayzee
The millennium score is 4 to 1. Sounds like they’re the Concert Master and the Yankees are playing the triangle. Ding ding ding.
C Yards Jeff
@Big whiffa; agreed; that’s if Boston was a small market team. They are not. Under this ownership, between 2002 + now, four world championships! I’m not a Red Sox fan, so do not follow closely, but I believe none of them happened off a complete rebuild. IE gutting the team to a miniscule payroll. Looks like John Henry and company have a business model in place that is highly successful. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. And, seems like they are happy with Mr. Bloom albeit for now.
Again, 4 WS Championships in 20 years. That’s disgusting. Signed, jealous long time Os fanatic. Peace!
ChuckyNJ
The BoSox have yo-yo’d between bad and good. Did they ever win the World Baseball Classic? No — those “world championships” were anointed by people who live in “Murica, F#!& Yeah!”
Claydagoat
“they’ll stay second fiddle to yanks”
I agree they need to retool but….Give me a break, the Yankees haven’t won anything in years.
redsox for_life
JD Martinez and Vazquez for Gore, Campusano and Hassell lll
kenly0
lol
Samuel
Yankee fan disease.
Javia135
Maybe the Padres would do that for Juan Soto. For Red Sox leftovers? No.
slider32
Sox should move Eovaldi, Bogaerts, and JD in the next week. The problem with that is that the Rays are limping right now. I just don’t think they have enough pitching to contend.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Let the Ray’s worry about the Ray’s. I still see Mariners better and possibly Cleveland or White Sox breakthrough. Red Sox are done.
Fever Pitch Guy
pwndroia – Just some perspective …. last year the Braves had a .500 record on August 7th and yet they still managed to win the World Series.
The biggest problem with the Red Sox is they have no depth. If their starters are all healthy, and Bloom trades for bullpen and 1B help, they have the talent and track record to go on a run and grab a WC.
Even the radio announcers have been bashing Bloom for not addressing the bullpen problem early on. It really does seem like management doesn’t want to win this year, which Henry basically confirmed recently by calling it a “building year”.
RunDMC
Rosenthal reporting DET listening on SP Tarik Skubal. Could be interesting dealing their top pitcher.
positively_broad_st
New Phillies centerfielder and leadoff hitter. Why not stick to the theme?
Just joking…
Boston should trade J.D. and whoever else is in their final contract year that can bring back a return that can help next year and beyond because this season is over for the Sox…
miltpappas
Jackie Bradley, Jr. in exchange for a tank of gas.
DBH1969
And it doesn’t need to be flammable any more. It can be a can of gas that’s sat in the shed for 40 years. We’ll still take it!
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
How about a fat dude who sits on the couch, drinks too much beer, eats tacos & pickled eggs? That’s a whole lotta gas…
JoeBrady
miltpappas6 hours ago
Jackie Bradley, Jr.
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It could be done. Philly has to be thinking about Herrera. He has a .399 OPS in his last 71 ABs. On days when you play Castellanos & Schwarber in the OF, you’d sure like to have a GG in between them. If we picked up 100% of his 2022 salary, then Philly pays out 2023, and we get a lottery ticket.
Misfit0620
Kike back to the Dodgers! Make it happen.
DBH1969
I find it hard to see any club giving up the goods for 2 rentals. Sure, they are both (JD and Bogey) great players but both are free agents in a few months. I wouldn’t expect more than rental value in return.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
And if that’s what we get I’m okay with it. Something is better than nothing.
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
I’d rather the draft picks
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
True, forgot about that.
Louholtz22
JD only has 9 HR’s and 38 RBI’s this year. His teammates are calling him Ichiro. Buyer beware if they’re looking for power.
PaulSimon
Yankees here
PaulSimon
Actually dodgers
RoyalsFanAmongWolves
Does anyone think it would be hilarious if he went back to the Astros, the team that RELEASED him?
stroh
I would take him back on the Stros over Josh Bell. JD and Altuve came up together thru the minors and up to the majors, and he had a solid rookie year along with Altuve. Of course rest is history. I just think the Stros are in more of a need for a first baseman, but with Brantley’s shoulder still a mystery, might be a good move to pick up JD.
jvent
Do.m Smith, Szapucki and a minor leaguer for JD Martinez and Eovaldi
JD Davis and a minor leaguer to Detroit for Chafin
Cosmo2
What minor leaguers? You’re yadda yadda yadda-ing over the best part.
stymeedone
Mets trash for one of the best LHR in baseball. Don’t think so.
BartoloHRball
I wouldn’t say “trash”, but I’d agree that that package isn’t competitive for JD, even as a rental bc multiple teams are interested in him. I say this as a die hard mets fan, but a realistic one.
JimmyForum
All Bostonians have a chip on their shoulder from being known as New York’s arm pit. It’s understandable why they are continually intoxicated and wear baseball hats everywhere from funerals to job interviews. The city smells like fish and it’s inhabitants are arrested an average of three times by the time they turn 23.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Way to generalize everyone.
Tomdocmac
You don’t take your life in your hands walking around Fenway or Boston in general. Go back into your hole Tony, or Mario, or Guido.
Astrosfn1979
The Astros need a bat
None of the top front office people are still with the Astros.
If J.D. is traded I’m sure it’s to the best with best chance to win a ring before cashing in again as a FA
Let’s make this happen Astros.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
At least they are selling, good choice on their end to not go all in and only end up with disastrous results. I think we can trade Bogaerts (doubt he’s returning), Martinez, and Eovaldi and possibly put Dalbec in the mix too because he has no future here.
em650r
Dodgers better get KeKe back
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
He has a bad hip and won’t be back soon. He started a rehab assignment and had to be shut down
Fever Pitch Guy
Mango – Did you not read the above article? Hernandez will be swinging a bat again Friday.
Ma4170
I’ve always been a I’ve JDM fan, but how can the article not mention he’s barely been league average since a torrid May, or that last year was the same downturn after an awesome April
Careful what you wish for here
AL34
His homerun power is way down from what it use to be. He had some great years with us but he is not hitting for power anymore. Please sign Boggarts Bloom!
Fever Pitch Guy
Bloom will not sign Wade Boggarts.
JDK 4
The thing is the Sox aren’t going to pay Bogey, Raffi and Storey the $90 million it’s going to take to eventually keep them all. They might as well trade Xander now to get the players they need to plug some holes in the lineup. If they don’t they’re going to lose him for nothing. The only alternative would be to keep him and trade Storey over the winter. He’s been too streaky at the plate this year anyway. I hate to say it but we have too many needs right now (effective starting and relief pitching, RF, 1B) and no way way of getting help besides selling off the farm. The way the Yankees and Astros are stacked this year I doubt if we can compete with them anyway no matter what we do.
AL34
Bloom pooped the bed this year since last off season. He needed a first baseman and a closer and never picked up a first baseman at the end of the year. Instead he lets Schwarber go who wanted to stay and never picked up a closer. He picked up C grade players in Wacha and Hill along with paying Paxton to sit on his rear end this year. That 11 million paying Paxton could have been better spent. He is a small time GM in way over his head in Boston.
30 Parks
Agreed, Al – well said.
30 Parks
Trade him to LA straight-up for Mookie Betts … the Vero Beach Red Sox strike again.
Northeasternskier
If the Red Sox poop the bed, trading JD to a contender is his best chance on cashing in on his next contract, instead of fading into post season obscurity, as it seems more likely every day.
AL34
Another one of Bloom’s vaunted rookie pitchers getting bombed tonight. Glad Bloom’s farm system is paying dividends this year. I have yet to see one rookie that I am impressed with this year. Our rookie pitchers give the games away in the first inning. I wish we could get rid of Bloom.
Marcus Graham
JD Martinez to the Mets for Pete Alonso and Ryan McNeil
soxfan1
Can any of JD, Bogey, Eovaldi or Vazquez net a top 50 prospect on their own? Would a combination of them do it?
Would any be enough to snag Cartaya or Campausano?
kingbum
The Sox do need a reset….You build the team around Rafael Devers and Trevor Story. I’d also put an end to the 3 option philosophy up and down the minors. This means you sacrifice some on the power side and get some contact hitters, the change in the minors won’t be immediate and will take a few years to notice. That means purging the team of hitters with really high strikeout rates like Bobby Dalbec. I want speedy contact hitters that have plate discipline, where are they?
I’m also looking for control pitchers in the bullpen, I hate walks and would gladly sacrifice power for control. The collective WHIP is too damn high, Houck and Whitlock are my two untouchables there. Bello is in my starting rotation next season with Winckowski….they replace Wacha and Hill….
Bruin1012
Kingbum you do realize this is already happening. They have drafting more contact hitters in recent drafts. There latest draft pick Mikey Romero is another contact first guy like Yorke was. Unfortunately Yorke had good power numbers last year so he fell in love with the long ball and got away from his hard line drive contact to all fields approach which is why is struggling some right now.
Goose
The Red Sox were in rebuild mode all along. Last year was a happy accident. The team wa predicted to fight Baltimore for the basement and they somehow played above their heads. NOTHING changed this off season. The 2022 team is almost the identical roster the 2021 team was it just isn’t overachieving.
The need to consider dealing Martinez, Eovaldi, Bogaerts and anyone else that brings a return of value. The only no brainer is resigning Devers now unless someone overwhelms them with a godfather offer.
bcjd
My offer to Bogaerts:
2023 – $33m
2024 – $33m
2025 – $33m with opt-out
2026 – $25m
2027 – $25m
Team option for three years:
2028 – $20m
2029 – $20m with opt-out
2030 – $15m
2031 – $12m mutual option
2032 – $10m mutual option
Sox are committed at most to $150m/5 years. Bogaerts can earn his way to retirement in Boston.
JoeBrady
That’s really well done. The AAV is higher than Story’s, so that should please Bogaerts. I would make the opt-out after the 2025 season, so Mayer should be ready to take over. But even post-2025, Bogaerts is still only 33, and if he is still good, could score a better deal. And the options are priced well enough to encourage both sides.
And you can call it a $237M contract, even if it winds up being slightly less.
Kudos!
bcjd
Thanks. To be clear, my player opt-outs are after 2025 and after 2029.
Sox are committed to $150mm over five years. If they get their full value out of that, they can pick up an option for another three years at $55mm total. If that goes well, they can give Bogaerts a golden parachute for his age 39-40 seasons.
Bogaerts is guaranteed $150mm, but can test the open market at age 33 after earning $100mm. If he decides to stay five years and he plays well, he can earn a 3-year, $55m contract for age 36-38. If he feels like that’s too low, he can opt out again at age 37, having earned a total $190mm from the Sox, and test the open market. Or, if he sticks around, he can opt-in to a golden parachute for his last two years.
Vtbmpskier
Great offer. I wouldnt go anymore than 30 across the board. One of the better laid out offers I have seen. I just think with that 1 yr 25 mill extension they offered him was a complete insult and they dont want to keep him. And I dont see him switching positions either. So what would your offer be to Devers?? I am looking at betts deal 12/300 with a sign on bonus..and he in my mind would be a future 1b/dh.
bcjd
I like the $33/year for the first three years, bringing it to an even $100mm. These are the “prime” years, so pay a premium and give him the “respect” he deserves for being a home-grown team leader. Guarantee he’ll be in Fenway until he retires by going the extra mile for those earliest years.