Skip Schumaker, Daniel Descalso Out Of Running In White Sox’ Managerial Search
11:18am: ESPN’s Jesse Rogers reports that Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso is also out of the running in Chicago.
11:05am: Former Marlins manager Skip Schumaker, who won National League Manager of the Year honors with Miami in 2023, is no longer being considered by the White Sox in their ongoing managerial search, per Jim Margalus and James Fegan of Sox Machine.
It’s not clear whether Schumaker removed his own name from consideration or whether the Sox moved on, either due to fit or asking price. Regardless, the report largely eliminates the possibility of Schumaker leading a new dugout in 2025. His former Marlins club and the Reds (who hired Terry Francona earlier this month) marked the only other managerial vacancies of the offseason (barring an unexpected late decision from another club or a surprise shakeup in the Bronx or L.A. following the World Series).
Even without an immediate managerial opening that makes sense for Schumaker, he’ll have no trouble finding work if he’s open to other roles. He served as a bench coach in St. Louis prior to being hired in Miami, and he’s also held the titles of associate manager and first base coach with the Padres. Schumaker would surely have his pick of coaching roles as teams round out their staffs ahead of the 2025 season, and given his baseball acumen and the manner in which he’s regarded as a coveted managerial prospect, it stands to reason that there are clubs that would welcome the opportunity to add Schumaker in a player development or baseball operations capacity while he bides his time and waits for an appealing managerial opportunity to surface.
Schumaker’s subtraction from the Sox’ list of candidates leaves Guardians bench coach Craig Albernaz, Dodgers bench coach Danny Lehmann, Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso, Rangers associate manager Will Venable, former Angels manager Phil Nevin and current interim manager Grady Sizemore as the current list of known candidates still in the running for the position. Rangers bench coach Donnie Ecker was removed from consideration last week, while Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough and Padres special assistant A.J. Ellis were taken off the list over the weekend. Tigers bench coach George Lombard is also out of the running as of last night.
Latest On White Sox Managerial Search
Reports from earlier today removed a couple of names from consideration as the next White Sox manager, though the team’s search continues to be seemingly pretty fluid. Guardians bench coach Craig Albernaz is a new name in the mix according to Jon Heyman of the New York Post (links to X), while interim manager Grady Sizemore is still in the running and Tigers bench coach George Lombard is also no longer a candidate.
Since the White Sox and Marlins are the only teams currently looking for a new skipper, many of the same candidates are appearing in both searches, with Albernaz’s name the latest crossover. Albernaz has already interviewed in Miami and is considered one of the favorites for the position, as he has previous working relationships with both president of baseball operations Peter Bendix and assistant GM Gabe Kapler.
Like the White Sox, however, it isn’t yet entirely clear how close the Marlins might be to making an actual hire, or if any other candidates might still emerge. Lombard and Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough both interviewed with Miami and are apparently still under consideration for that job, even if Chicago is moving in another direction.
Albernaz (who turns 42 later this week) just completed his first season in Cleveland, after working as the Giants’ bullpen/catching coach over the 2019-22 seasons. This makes him a known quantity to White Sox pitching advisor Brian Bannister, who was San Francisco’s director of pitching for the last three of Albernaz’s seasons in the Bay Area. The Giants job marked Albernaz’s first role on a big league coaching staff, as he spent the previous five seasons as a manager, coach, and coordinator in the Rays’ farm system.
The 2024 season was also Sizemore’s first time on a Major League staff, and his first pro coaching job at any level. After Pedro Grifol was fired in August, Sizemore was something of a surprise choice as Chicago’s interim manager, and he led the team to a 13-32 record in the final stretch of what ended up as a singularly disastrous 121-loss season. GM Chris Getz said Sizemore would continue to be a candidate within the team’s search for a full-time bench boss, but Sizemore’s coaching contract runs through the 2025 season, so he might well be back anyway in some capacity if he isn’t retained as manager.
The list of known candidates still in the running for the White Sox position include Sizemore, Albernaz, former Marlins manager Skip Schumaker, former Angels manager Phil Nevin, Rangers associate manager Will Venable, Dodgers bench coach Danny Lehmann, and Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso.
White Sox No Longer Considering Clayton McCullough, A.J. Ellis In Managerial Search
The White Sox have been on the hunt for their new manager for some time now, but Jesse Rogers of ESPN reported this morning that the club is “getting closer” to making a hire for the position. In particular, Rogers reports two names that are no longer in the running for the job: Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough and Padres special assistant A.J. Ellis.
McCullough has been a popular managerial candidate in recent years, coming up in last year’s managerial searched conducted by the Mets, Brewers, and Guardians after previously being a finalist to manage the Royals before the club ultimately selected Matt Quatraro. That widespread interest as McCullough as a candidate has continued this year, as in addition to Chicago’s interest in him he’s also known to have interviewed for the Marlins’ managerial vacancy last week, making him one of just three candidates confirmed to have conducted an interview. Prior to his stint with the Dodgers as first base coach, he previously held the role of minor league field coordinator in L.A. and managed in the minor leagues with the Blue Jays.
Ellis, meanwhile, is a veteran of 11 MLB seasons but was always a bit of an unusual candidate for the job given that he has no managerial or coaching experience in the majors or minors. Since retiring from his playing career, Ellis has served as a special assistant to A.J. Preller’s front office in San Diego with a focus on player development. That development experience could obviously be useful to a club like the White Sox, who lost 121 games this year and seem destined to focus on rebuilding with young, up-and-coming players over the next few seasons. Per Rogers, however, Ellis removed himself from the running due to family considerations.
The pair join Rangers bench coach and offensive coordinator Donnie Ecker on the list of candidates who are no longer in the running for the position. Even without those three in contention for the role, the White Sox still have a number of names rumored to be in the mix for the job. Former Angels manager Phil Nevin and outgoing Marlins manager Skip Schumaker, and veteran manager Buck Showalter have all been floated as names under consideration for the role, but the White Sox are also evidently considering a number of names without previous big league managerial experience. Even with McCullough, Ellis, and Ecker no longer in the mix, Chicago is stil known to have interest in Rangers associate manager Will Venable, and Tigers bench coach George Lombard, Dodgers bench coach Danny Lehman, and Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso as they look to turn the page on their disastrous 2024 season with a fresh voice in the dugout.
AL Central Notes: Warren, White Sox, Manfred, Caglianone
The Tigers had interest in right-hander Will Warren during their trade talks with the Yankees this past summer, the New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports. The two clubs reportedly had a provisional agreement involving Jack Flaherty relatively close to being completed before New York backed out due to concerns over Flaherty’s medical records, though it should be noted that Heyman didn’t directly say that Warren was part of whatever trade package the Yankees were prepared to send to Detroit. Flaherty instead was dealt to the Dodgers for two position players, one of whom (Trey Sweeney) ended up playing an important role in the Tigers’ surprising late-season surge to a wild card berth.
Ironically, Warren ended up making his MLB debut on the trade deadline day of July 30, and he posted a 10.32 ERA over his first 22 2/3 innings in the big leagues. He also had a 5.91 ERA over 109 2/3 innings at Triple-A, though his minor league numbers were a little skewed by a nightmarish four-start stretch in May. Scouts and evaluators generally view Warren as a back-end starter or perhaps a long reliever at the MLB level, and while the Yankees naturally want to keep pitching depth on hand, Warren could be a relatively expendable prospect in terms of future trade possibilities (with Detroit or any other teams).
More from around the AL Central…
- Jerry Reinsdorf’s apparent willingness to discuss selling the White Sox has led to increased speculation that the team could be moved to a new city, though MLB commissioner Rob Manfred downplayed that idea in a recent appearance on FS1’s “Breakfast Ball” show. (Hat tip to Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times.) “Chicago is an anchor city for us. I think that the White Sox are in a difficult situation. I think the location of the stadium is tough, but I have confidence that things are going to work out in Chicago and that we’re going to continue to have two teams in Chicago,” Manfred said. This allusion to Reinsdorf’s desire to get a new ballpark built is another factor in the situation, and Van Schouwen hears that Reinsdorf “has grown increasingly skeptical” about the chances of civic and state officials signing off on a deal to built a new stadium for the White Sox within Chicago’s South Loop area. Of course, some gamesmanship could be at play here, Reinsdorf’s past threats to move the Sox to St. Petersburg in the late 1980’s helped get Guaranteed Rate Field built in the first place.
- Jac Caglianone‘s power bat as a first baseman at the University of Florida helped make him the sixth overall pick of the 2024 draft, but the Royals prospect hasn’t given up on the idea of being a two-way player. “I’m the type of person where I get super driven and I get fixated on things,” Caglianone told The Athletic’s Noah Furtado. “So if I have the opportunity to do it, I’m going to jump on it. I won’t really accept failure. I’ll keep pushing at it until it clicks.” A Tommy John surgery in 2021 got Caglianone more focused on hitting and perhaps directed him towards Florida instead of entering the 2021 draft as a high schooler, and while Caglianone still showed premium velocity as a college pitcher, control is the big concern. The Royals have thus far used him only as a first baseman and DH during his brief pro career (in high-A ball and in the Arizona Fall League), but the club hasn’t entirely closed the door on Caglianone as a pitcher. As K.C. director of player development Mitch Maier put it, Caglianone’s potential is “a rare opportunity that has to be thought through.”
Latest On White Sox’ Managerial Search
Following the club’s decision to fire manager Pedro Grifol midseason, the White Sox have been at work looking to find their next long-term skipper while interim manager Grady Sizemore held down the fort late in the year. A number of potential candidates have seen their names float through the rumor mill this winter, but The New York Post’s Jon Heyman wrote last night that the three “leading candidates” for the role are former Angels manager Phil Nevin, Rangers associate manager Will Venable, and Tigers bench coach George Lombard.
All three were previously known to be in the mix for the club’s managerial gig, although only Venable is confirmed to have scheduled an interview among the trio. Among them, Nevin is the only one with previous experience at the helm of an MLB dugout as he took over for Joe Maddon as Angels manager in June of 2022 and remained in the role through the end of the 2023 season. The Halos posted a paltry 119-149 record under Nevin’s guidance, but for a rebuilding club coming off a 121-loss campaign like the White Sox team record may be less of a factor than Nevin’s handling of youngsters like Reid Detmers, Nolan Schanuel, and Zach Neto.
Meanwhile, Venable and Lombard lack managerial experience at the big league level but are both viewed as up-and-coming managers of the future. Venable, in particular, has been a highly sought-after managerial candidate for years now, though he declined to interview for positions with the Mets and Guardians last winter. Since his big league career came to an end in 2016, Venable has served as a special assistant to the front office, first base coach, and third base coach for the Cubs, bench coach to Red Sox manager Alex Cora, and most recently associate manager under Rangers skipper Bruce Bochy.
Lombard, on the other hand, has reportedly already interviewed for the league’s other managerial vacancy in Miami and was previously a candidate for the Padres’ managerial gig in 2019 and the top dugout job with the Tigers in 2020. While both teams ultimately went in different directions, Detroit was clearly impressed with Lombard as they subsequently hired him to act as A.J. Hinch’s bench coach, a role he’s held ever since. Prior to his stint with the Tigers, Lombard spent five years with the Dodgers as first base coach from 2016-20 following stints with the Red Sox and Braves in a variety of minor league roles.
Heyman also floats a fourth name in the mix for the managerial gig: veteran manager Buck Showalter, who most recently served as skipper of the Mets from 2022 to 2023. As opposed to his framing of Lombard, Nevin, and Venable as “leading candidates” for the role, Heyman suggests the White Sox have merely “considered” the four-time Manager of the Year award winner for their vacancy in the dugout, leaving it unclear how serious the club’s interest is or if Showalter has actually interviewed for the position. Even so, it seems as though Showalter isn’t inherently against leading a club that’s unlikely to contend given his interest in the Angels’ managerial vacancy last winter before that job ultimately went to Ron Washington.
Of course, these four are far from the only candidates that have been connected to the managerial role in Chicago in recent weeks. Former Marlins manager Skip Schumaker and Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough have both been regarded as potential frontrunners for the job at various points in the offseason, while Padres special assistant A.J. Ellis, Dodgers bench coach Danny Lehman, and Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso have also seen their names float through the rumor mill in connection with the White Sox job since the offseason began.
MLBTR Podcast: The World Series, The White Sox Reportedly For Sale, And Tropicana Field
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This week, host Darragh McDonald is joined by Steve Adams of MLB Trade Rumors to discuss…
- The upcoming World Series (0:30)
- White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf reportedly talking about selling the team (4:35)
- The hurricane damage to Tropicana Field and the complicated situation the Rays are in (18:10)
Plus, we answer your questions, including…
- Should the Guardians trade Josh Naylor and what would the return look like? (27:05)
- What would a Masyn Winn or Alec Burleson extension look like? Could the Cardinals still hammer out a deal even with the current budget constraints? (35:00)
- What do you think the Red Sox will do this winter? (42:05)
Check out our past episodes!
- Changes In Minnesota, Cubs’ Prospect Depth, And Possibilities For The O’s – listen here
- Previewing FA Starting Pitchers, TV Deals, And Potential Spending Teams – listen here
- Buster Posey Takes Over In SF And The Cardinals’ Succession Plan – listen here
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Central Notes: Ecker, White Sox, Lynn, Cardinals, Pirates
Reports surfaced last week that the Rangers had given permission for Donnie Ecker to interview with the White Sox about their managerial opening, but Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News (X link) wrote that Ecker is no longer under consideration for the job. Ecker will instead return for what will presumably be his fourth season as the Rangers’ bench coach and offensive coordinator.
Ecker’s departure from the search could simply be due to a personal preference to remain in Texas, rather than necessarily a sign that the White Sox are getting any closer to hiring their new skipper. SoxMachine’s James Fegan described the managerial search last week as still being short of any official list of finalists, even though the team had already eliminated some candidates while still aiming to speak to some other names working for teams still alive in the playoffs. Dodgers coaches Clayton McCullough and Danny Lehmann are two names linked to the Sox that might fit this description, though a wide range of names are rumored to be on Chicago’s list. Most of the rumored candidates (like Ecker) would be first-time managers at the big league level, though Skip Schumaker and Phil Nevin both have past experience running MLB clubs.
More from both the AL and NL Central…
- A pair of IL stints due to right knee inflammation limited to Lance Lynn to just two starts over the last two months of the season, but Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes that Lynn is feeling better “and expects to have a normal offseason of preparation.” This is good news for Lynn as he heads into his 14th Major League season, and despite the knee issues, Lynn still had a solid 3.84 ERA over 117 1/3 innings for the Cardinals. Since the Cards are planning to cut payroll in a rebuild year, it isn’t a guarantee that Lynn’s $12MM club option ($1MM buyout) will be exercised, though St. Louis is probably more likely to pick up the option and then shop Lynn on the trade market this winter.
- In other Cardinals news, Goold reports that longtime front office staffer Matt Slater is leaving the organization. Slater has been with the team since 2007 working as a scout, director of player personnel, and (for the last seven seasons) as a special assistant to the GM in a player procurement capacity. These roles meant that Slater was directly involved in the acquisition of several notable Cards players, and Goold notes that Slater was particularly influential in the team’s international scouting practices. This resume drew Slater some attention from the Tigers and Phillies in past GM searches, and he probably shouldn’t have much trouble landing a new gig with another team.
- The Pirates have hired Kevin Tenenbaum to lead their analytics department as the club’s new VP of research and development, according to reporter John Dreker (X link). The 32-year-old Tenenbaum has spent the last seven seasons in Cleveland’s R&D department, working as the director in 2022 and then VP of the Guardians‘ analytics team this past season. This experience with another lower-spending team is surely of interest to the Pirates, especially given the Guards have been a lot more consistently competitive than the Bucs have in recent years despite working with generally comparative payroll.
Offseason Outlook: Chicago White Sox
On the heels of one of the worst seasons in baseball history, the White Sox must stockpile young talent while operating under a cloud of uncertainty about the future of the franchise.
Guaranteed Contracts
- Andrew Benintendi, LF: $47.5MM through 2027
- Luis Robert Jr., CF: $15MM through 2025, with a $20MM club option ($2MM buyout) for 2026 and the same club option for '27
Option Decisions
- Yoan Moncada, 3B: $25MM club option with a $5MM buyout
- Max Stassi, C: $7.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Additional Obligations
- Owe $1.5MM buyout to released RHP John Brebbia
- Owe $250K buyout to released C Martin Maldonado
2025 financial commitments: $40.75MM
Total future commitments: $71.75MM
Arbitration-Eligible Players (service time in parentheses; salary projections via Matt Swartz)
- Nicky Lopez (5.139): $5.1MM
- Matt Foster (4.093): $900K
- Garrett Crochet (4.028): $2.9MM
- Enyel De Los Santos (4.015): $1.7MM
- Andrew Vaughn (4.000): $6.4MM
- Justin Anderson (3.122): $1.1MM
- Jimmy Lambert (3.108): $1.2MM
- Gavin Sheets (3.076): $2.6MM
- Steven Wilson (3.000): $1MM
- Non-tender candidates: Lopez, Foster, De Los Santos, Vaughn, Anderson, Lambert, Sheets, Wilson
Free Agents
While we knew this team would be bad, we didn't realize it would be historically bad. The 2024 White Sox set the modern record for total losses with 121, and it easily could have been worse had they not surged to win five of their last six games. Starting pitchers Garrett Crochet and Erick Fedde were the only glimmers of hope, but the latter was traded and the former seems on his way out.
The Sox fired manager Pedro Grifol on August 8th, with Grady Sizemore serving as interim manager for the remainder of the season. Sizemore is at least under consideration for the full-time job, but the list of known candidates has also included Donnie Ecker, Will Venable, Clayton McCullough, Danny Lehman, George Lombard, A.J. Ellis, Phil Nevin, Daniel Descalso, and Skip Schumaker. Grifol was Rick Hahn's hire, so the new manager will be the first chosen by senior vice president/GM Chris Getz.
Beyond the managerial change, existential issues loom over the White Sox. One is whether longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf intends to sell the team. On October 16th, Brittany Ghiroli of The Athletic reported that Reinsdorf is "open to selling" the team, and furthermore, "is in active discussions with a group led by former big leaguer Dave Stewart." Stewart's involvement has led to speculation about potentially moving the team to Nashville, given the former pitcher's efforts to bring an MLB team to that city.
The Stewart rumor follows January news of Reinsdorf's aim of getting a new stadium built in a (Chicago) South Loop area called "The 78." A relocation threat is one of the oldest in the new-stadium playbook, of course, and Reinsdorf successfully leveraged a potential move to St. Petersburg back in 1988 to get the current Guaranteed Rate Field built in Chicago. Back in 1995, Reinsdorf famously said in reference to his St. Petersburg play in a Cigar Aficionado interview, "A savvy negotiator creates leverage. People had to think we were going to leave Chicago."
Moving from Chicago to St. Petersburg hardly made sense in terms of market size, and the same is true of Nashville now.
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Rangers Grant White Sox Permission To Interview Will Venable, Donnie Ecker
On the heels of reporting earlier today that the White Sox had interest in Rangers bench coach and offensive coordinator Donnie Ecker for their managerial vacancy, Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News reported this evening that the Rangers have granted not only Ecker but also associate manager Will Venable permission to interview with Chicago regarding their available managerial gig. Venable’s name first surfaced in connection with the White Sox last week.
Ecker, 38, got his start as a coach in 2015 with the Cardinals. He acted as a minor league hitting coach for St. Louis from 2015 to 2017 before joining the Angels’ Triple-A club in that same role for the 2018 season. He first cracked the big leagues as an assistant hitting coach with the Reds in 2019. He remained with the club for two years before joining the Giants as a hitting coach prior to the 2020 season, and he stuck in San Francisco for another two years before again changing organizations to join the Rangers in his current role as bench coach and offensive coordinator prior to the 2022 season.
It’s a lengthy resume, and Ecker would bring perspectives from five different big league organizations to an infamously insular White Sox club if hired. This isn’t the first time Ecker has come up as a potential managerial candidate for a big league club, either. Last winter, Ecker was rumored among the potential candidates to replace Gabe Kapler as manager in San Francisco before they ultimately hired Bob Melvin away from the Padres.
Venable has also seen his name come up in past managerial searches and has long been looked at as one of the league’s top up-and-coming potential managers. After playing parts of nine seasons in the majors, Venable joined the Cubs as a special assistant to the front office in 2017 before serving as first base coach in the following two seasons and third base coach during the shortened 2020 campaign. Venable departed Chicago following the 2020 season to become Alex Cora‘s bench coach in Boston. He remained in that role for two years before joining the Rangers as an associate manager under Bruce Bochy prior to the 2023 season.
Grant notes that Venable could be the leading contender to take Bochy’s place as manager in Texas when the 69-year-old eventually returns to retirement. Venable was seemingly comfortable with that arrangement when he declined interviews with the Mets and Guardians last winter in order to remain with the Rangers, but it’s possible he’s more seriously considering departing the Rangers this winter amid uncertainty regarding Bochy’s plans for the future. As Grant relays, Bochy told reporters following the end of the 2024 regular season that managing still “drives” him, seemingly leaving the door open to him sticking around beyond the end of his current contract in 2025.
The two Rangers coaches are hardly the only candidates connected to the job, of course. Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough and bench coach Danny Lehman, Tigers bench coach George Lombard, Padres special assistant A.J. Ellis, former Angels skipper Phil Nevin, Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso, and outgoing Marlins manager Skip Schumaker have all been name checked as potential candidates in the rumor mill, with Schumaker and McCullough getting particular attention as potential leading candidates.
Whoever ultimately takes the reins in Chicago will enter an tumultuous situation. Not only is the club coming off a disastrous 2024 campaign that set the modern record for losses in a single season at 121, but the club’s ownership could be up in the air following a report yesterday that indicated longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf is discussing selling the club to former big leaguer Dave Stewart. While all that uncertainty and the likely long timetable for a return to contention could make the club’s managerial gig seem somewhat unattractive, the relative scarcity of big league manager jobs is sure to draw the attention of quality talent nonetheless.
Latest On Yoán Moncada
Infielder Yoán Moncada is going to get some reps next month. Per Francys Romero on X, Moncada will play for Cuba in the upcoming Premier12 tournament, which is set to take place in multiple countries in November.
He’s likely happy to get the playing time, as he only got 45 plate appearances over 12 games in 2024. That was mostly due to injury, as Moncada suffered a left adductor strain in April and didn’t come off the IL until mid-September. Even when he was back with the club, the Sox didn’t play him much, preferring to give the work to younger players with more potential to contribute in the long run.
Moncada is about to become a free agent. The Sox have a $25MM club option to keep him around for 2025 but they will certainly go for the $5MM buyout instead, since he hasn’t been his best self in a while.
Marketing himself to other clubs in free agency will be a challenge after an essentially lost season, which is surely part of the reason he’s planning to put his spikes on and play next month. He was also limited by injuries in the previous two seasons, playing just 196 games over 2022 and 2023 while hitting .234/.288/.386 for a wRC+ of 86.
Though he’s been injury prone of late and has seemingly been around forever, it’s easy to forget that he still hasn’t celebrated his 30th birthday, which will be in May. His high-profile defection from Cuba was over a decade ago, but he was just a teenager at that time. He went on to sign a huge deal with the Red Sox, when that was still possible under the old amateur spending rules, later getting traded to the White Sox as part of the Chris Sale mega trade before signing a notable extension with Chicago.
But he’s still relatively young and was in good form as recently as a few years ago. In 2021, he stayed healthy enough to play 144 games for the Sox. He slashed .263/.375/.412 that year for a 120 wRC+. He also received solid marks for his glovework, as he usually does, leading to a tally of 3.7 wins above replacement in the eyes of FanGraphs.
The recent injuries and tepid performance will both send him to free agency and knock down his earning power on the open market, but it’s possible that some clubs will view him as a strong bounceback candidate who could potentially provide strong return on a modest investment.