Chris Getz Discusses Potential Loss Record, Crochet, Managerial Search
The White Sox lost again on Monday, dropping a 5-3 contest to the Guardians. Chicago didn’t have a baserunner until the seventh inning against rookie Joey Cantillo in a game that dropped them to a staggering 33-112. They’re now just eight losses away from matching the 1962 Mets for most in a season since 1900. They’d need to go 9-8 to avoid setting the modern era record.
Sox general manager Chris Getz met with the team’s beat before Monday’s game. The GM said he’d “have been a little surprised” if he were informed coming into the season that the Sox could — and, at this point, seem quite likely to — set the loss record (link via Jesse Rogers of ESPN). However, Getz implied that he did anticipate one of the worst seasons in franchise history.
“Now if you would have told me prior to the year that we would have ended up with over 100 losses, 105, 110, I wouldn’t have been as surprised,” he told reporters. “But this is the cards that we’ve been dealt at this point. You try to make the best of it, and I think it’s an opportunity to embrace the situation that we’re in.” Before this year, the Sox’s franchise high was the 106 losses they posted in 1970.
That situation is of the Sox’s own making, of course. Getz had been assistant general manager under Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn until that duo was fired shortly after the 2023 trade deadline. Owner Jerry Reinsdorf tabbed Getz to take over baseball operations not long thereafter. The White Sox were already fully amidst a teardown by the time Getz took the reins.
Bright spots on a team that’ll probably lose 120 games are obviously few and far between. Getz unsurprisingly pointed to Garrett Crochet’s breakout as a starting pitcher when asked about his favorite development of the season. Chicago made a risky decision to give the hard-throwing southpaw a rotation job despite his limited workload coming into the year. Yet that turned out to be an excellent call, as Crochet has turned in a 3.83 ERA while striking out nearly 35% of opponents through 29 starts. The Sox have eased up on his workload in the second half, but Crochet should top 140 innings after entering the year with all of 85 1/3 professional frames.
Fantastic as Crochet has pitched, the Sox weren’t able to find an offer to their liking at the deadline. Their trade talks were complicated by the lefty’s camp angling for an extension as a condition of continuing to pitch into October with a new team. Getz and his staff will no doubt field a ton of interest in the 25-year-old during the upcoming winter.
Crochet will probably be the offseason’s top trade candidate. Getz acknowledged they’ll explore the market on the former first-round pick, who is eligible for arbitration for two seasons after this one. “The reality of baseball and where we’re at as an organization, you need to look at the types of return you could potentially get in trades,” Getz said (link via Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times). “We need to weigh where we’re going to be in a year or two years, but we also know how talented he is, and he can certainly lead a rotation with the White Sox or anyone else. So we’re going to take advantage of what he’s capable of doing as a starter. But also it’s wise to see what the market holds for Garrett Crochet to see if we can improve the White Sox for the future.”
Getz added that the Sox are not “actively shopping” Crochet, though there’s probably not much distinction in practice. Virtually every contender figures to gauge the Sox’s asking price. Chicago is almost certainly not going to be competitive in either of the next two seasons. There’s no indication that an extension is particularly likely. That would require ownership to sign off on a larger deal than the franchise-record $75MM Andrew Benintendi contract.
The Sox could choose to hold Crochet until the 2025 deadline. If he’s healthy and pitching at a top-of-the-rotation level, he could be the best starter available next summer. Holding him incurs the risk of an early-season injury or, less likely, a sharp drop in performance. An offseason trade seems probable now that Crochet has addressed a lot of the questions about his ability to hold up as a starter. An acquiring team could realistically expect him to build to 160-170 innings in his second full season from the rotation.
[Related: What Might It Cost To Extend Garrett Crochet?]
While a Crochet trade would probably be the Sox’s biggest move of the offseason, it won’t be their first major decision. Getz is leading a managerial search for the first time after the team fired Pedro Grifol a month ago. The Sox announced at the time that they expected their next hire would come from outside the organization. That remains the case, as Getz made clear they’re searching among “candidates that are in uniform with other organizations right now” (relayed by Jay Cohen of the Associated Press). The Sox have gone 5-23 since hiring Grady Sizemore on an interim basis.
In a separate piece at the Sun-Times, Van Shouwen suggests the White Sox could make a run at Skip Schumaker. The 2023 NL Manager of the Year will be out of contract at the end of the season. It is widely expected that he and the Marlins will part ways. Miami agreed to void a ’25 club option on Schumaker’s contract after the manager expressed his frustration with the decision to fire former GM Kim Ng. The Marlins almost immediately kicked off a multi-year rebuild under new baseball operations president Peter Bendix.
Whether Schumaker would have any interest in jumping to a Chicago team that is in an even worse short-term position isn’t clear. Perhaps that’ll depend on which other managerial positions open over the next couple months. Getz declined to narrow a timeline for the Sox hiring, though he said they have not begun to reach out to other teams about getting permission to interview personnel who are currently under contract.
White Sox Outright Touki Toussaint
The White Sox sent right-hander Touki Toussaint outright to Triple-A Charlotte, the team announced (relayed on X by Scott Merkin of MLB.com). Chicago designated him for assignment on Tuesday.
Toussaint made it into the MLB bullpen just before the trade deadline. He pitched 11 times and ate 23 innings with a 7.43 ERA. He struck out 22.2% of opponents while issuing walks at a massive 15.4% clip. That’s more or less the same profile that the former first-round pick has shown over his seven seasons in the big leagues. While Toussaint misses bats at a roughly league average rate, he has always had well below-average control.
This was the second straight season in which the 28-year-old pitched for the Sox. Chicago claimed him off waivers from the Guardians last summer. He started 15 of 19 appearances down the stretch, posting an ERA a hair under 5.00. Toussaint held his 40-man roster spot until the end of Spring Training. The Sox outrighted him to Charlotte just before Opening Day. He pitched to a 5.15 ERA in 50 2/3 innings there before being called back up.
Toussaint has multiple career outrights, giving him the right to elect free agency. There may not be enough runway for him to catch on anywhere else this season, so it seems likelier he’ll report to Charlotte and try to return to the Chicago bullpen over the next couple weeks. He’ll be a minor league free agent in the offseason unless the White Sox call him back up.
Elvis Andrus To Retire
September 4: Now things will be more official shortly. Per another piece from Grant, Andrus will officially retire on as a Ranger Friday, September 6. He will throw out the first pitch prior to that day’s game against the Angels.
August 27: Elvis Andrus has been a free agent since the Diamondbacks released him at the end of Spring Training. While the longtime shortstop has not made any official retirement announcement, it seems he’s prepared to start a new chapter.
Andrus spoke with Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News last week about the considerations in all but officially ending his playing career. The 36-year-old told Grant that he’d initially stayed in shape after being released by Arizona in case another team presented him with an MLB opportunity. After a few weeks, he pulled back on those training efforts.
“Being in the big leagues was always a blessing, but the game has changed, players have changed, teammates changed,” Andrus noted. “Everybody is in their early 20s. Everybody I grew up with is out now. The last five years, I’ve seen all the guys that were my closest friends retire. Over the last few years, I found myself thinking: ‘When is it going to be my time?’
“I thought this was going to be a depressing journey, but it’s been amazing,” he added. “I really thought it was going to be harder to be away, but I’ve really been at peace and I’m at peace with the next decision about the next journey.” Andrus also told Grant that his three children have expressed throughout the summer that they’d prefer he stay home rather than continue to pursue playing opportunities.
Assuming this indeed marks the end of Andrus’ playing days, it’s the conclusion of a very good career. Signed by the Braves as an amateur out of Venezuela, Andrus quickly developed into a top prospect. He and Jarrod Saltalamacchia headlined Texas’ return in the 2007 blockbuster that sent Mark Teixeira to Atlanta.
Andrus reached the majors before his 21st birthday. He emerged as the Rangers starting shortstop by ’09, hitting .267 across 145 games. Andrus finished runner-up behind Andrew Bailey in that season’s Rookie of the Year voting. He earned an All-Star nod during his sophomore campaign and was the everyday shortstop on Texas’ consecutive pennant winners between 2010-11. Andrus topped 30 stolen bases in each of his first three MLB seasons. He earned a second All-Star nod with a .286/.349/.378 showing in 2012.
The Rangers committed to Andrus as their franchise shortstop early in the 2013 season. Texas inked him to an eight-year deal with a $120MM guarantee and a pair of opt-out chances. Andrus remained a fixture of the Ranger infield. He played a strong shortstop while hitting for high averages and playing nearly every game. While he was never a huge power threat, he got to 20 homers with a .297/.337/.471 slash and 88 RBI in a 2017 season that was arguably his best.
Andrus appeared in at least 145 games in each of his first nine seasons. He stole at least 20 bags in all of those years. His offensive productivity was a bit up-and-down, but he remained an average or better overall player throughout the 2010s. His numbers dropped off during the shortened 2020 campaign, leading Texas to ship him to the A’s in a contract swap involving Khris Davis that also netted future starting catcher Jonah Heim.
After spending a year and a half in Oakland, Andrus caught on with the White Sox late in the 2022 season. He hit well over 43 games for Chicago down the stretch and returned to the Sox last year. He hit .251/.304/.358 while splitting time between shortstop and second base in what looks to be his final major league action.
Andrus will be best remembered for his 12-year run with the Rangers. He tallied more than 7000 plate appearances, hitting .274/.330/.372 while stealing 305 bases. A regular on five playoff teams for Texas, he eventually logged more than 17,000 innings at shortstop. Andrus checked off a pair of milestones in his final season, surpassing 2000 career hits and 100 home runs. Baseball Reference credited him with 34 wins above replacement, while FanGraphs graded him at 36 WAR.
Grant also chats with Hall of Fame third baseman Adrian Beltré, Andrus’ longtime infield mate and close friend, about the shortstop’s impact on the Rangers. Texas fans, in particular, will want to read the Dallas Morning News column in full. Grant suggests the Rangers could enshrine Andrus in the organizational Hall of Fame once he officially announces his retirement. If this is the end of his playing days, MLBTR congratulates him on an excellent career and sends our best wishes for his post-playing endeavors.
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MLBTR Podcast: Royals’ Reinforcements, Promoted Angels, And The Terrible White Sox
The latest episode of the MLB Trade Rumors Podcast is now live on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your podcasts! Make sure you subscribe as well! You can also use the player at this link to listen, if you don’t use Spotify or Apple for podcasts.
This week, host Darragh McDonald is joined by Mark Polishuk of MLB Trade Rumors to discuss…
- The most recent edition of the 2024-25 Free Agent Power Rankings (1:30)
- The Royals claim Tommy Pham and Robbie Grossman, as well as trading for Yuli Gurriel (5:15)
- The Angels promote Caden Dana and Samuel Aldegheri (10:50)
Plus, we answer your questions, including…
- What’s the problem with the White Sox? Is it an owner not willing to spend? Is it inept senior management in getting taken in trades and a poor plan for success? What is it going to take to become competitive again? Are there other factors that keep top free agents from coming to the White Sox? Franchise culture? Moving a family to Chicago? Inability to develop talent? (20:35)
- Who should the Rangers be looking at this winter? A center fielder? A backup catcher and pitching? (30:50)
- As a big Braves fan, I am curious to see what they do about shortstop for 2025 and beyond. Whom do you think ends up starting there? It seems unlikely Nacho Alvarez Jr. seizes the position, right? Do we move on from Orlando Arcia? My preference would be to re-sign Whit Merrifield to play there. Could he handle shortstop? What do you guys say? (36:40)
Check out our past episodes!
- Scott Servais, Perry Minasian, The Orioles’ Rotation, And Joey Votto – listen here
- Who Could Get Waived, Potential Rule Changes, Austin Riley, And Hector Neris – listen here
- The White Sox Fire Their Manager, Víctor Robles Extended, And The Marlins’ Front Office – listen here
The podcast intro and outro song “So Long” is provided courtesy of the band Showoff. Check out their Facebook page here!
White Sox Designate Touki Toussaint For Assignment
The White Sox announced they have designated right-hander Touki Toussaint for assignment. The move will give Chicago another 40-man vacancy, as they’re filling his spot by recalling righty Matt Foster, who’s already on the 40-man. Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times reported the moves prior to the official announcement.
Toussaint, 28, has pitched in 11 games and tallied 23 innings for the ChiSox this season, but the results haven’t been pretty. The former first-rounder and top prospect has been tagged for a 7.43 ERA, thanks in no small part to a bloated 15.4% walk rate. Toussaint has unequivocally had some poor fortune on balls in play, evidence by a mammoth .464 BABIP, and the White Sox’ porous defense surely hasn’t done him any favors in that regard.
All the same, Toussaint’s hefty walk rate and average strikeout rate (22.2%) aren’t conducive to success even with a more typical average on balls in play. He’s had a particularly rough go of it lately, with 11 runs yielded over his past 9 1/3 innings. Now that he’s been designated for assignment, Toussaint will head to waivers. He’ll likely clear, at which point he’ll have the right to elect free agency (both by virtue of his major league service time and prior outright assignments).
Foster, 29, has pitched well in Triple-A and in the majors this season in what’s been his first year back from Tommy John surgery performed in April 2023. The right-hander’s velocity (91.6 mph average fastball) is down two miles per hour from his pre-surgery days, though that could build back up as he gets more work in. To this point, he’s only pitched 18 minor league frames and another three in the majors. In 115 2/3 innings, Foster owns a 4.28 ERA with a 23.6% strikeout rate and 8.2% walk rate. The Sox can control him via arbitration through the 2026 season.
Drew Thorpe To Undergo Season-Ending Surgery To Remove Bone Spur
White Sox right-hander Drew Thorpe is set to undergo season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur from his right elbow, as relayed by MLB.com’s Scott Merkin. Merkin adds that the club announcement details that Thorpe, who has been on the injured list the past month due to a flexor strain, is expected to be ready for Spring Training with no restrictions.
Thorpe made plenty of headlines this winter when he was included in not one but two separate blockbuster trades over the offseason. First, the Yankees swapped their second-round pick from the 2022 draft to the Padres as part of the package that brought Juan Soto to the Bronx. Just three months later, Thorpe was on the move yet again as he was shipped to Chicago in order to bring right-hander Dylan Cease to San Diego. The hype surrounding Thorpe that led him to be included in two of last winter’s biggest trades was based in his status as a consensus top-100 prospect who had just finished up a dominant 2023 season with the Yankees that saw him post a 1.48 ERA in his first taste of Double-A action down the stretch.
Upon suiting up for the White Sox for the first time back in April, Thorpe was sent back to the Double-A level and continued to display the dominance he had shown during his time with New York. In 60 innings of work across 11 starts, Thorpe posted a 1.35 ERA despite his strikeout rate dropping from the eye-popping 34% rate he flashed with the Yankees last year to a more pedestrian 25%, and by the time the calendar flipped to June the White Sox decided that Thorpe needed a bigger challenge. Rather than promote him to the Triple-A level and test him there, the club opted to promote him directly to Chicago. Thorpe impressed in his first big league start as he struck out four across five innings of one-run ball, though his second outing against the Diamondbacks saw the right-hander allow seven earned runs on six hits and five walks in 3 1/3 innings of work.
The ups and downs of Thorpe’s first two starts would continue throughout his first taste of big league action. He rattled off a stretch of five excellent starts throughout the end of June and start of July where he posted a microscopic 1.23 ERA despite a diminished 17.9% strikeout rate that stood out as a potential red flag. Those concerns promptly came to pass, as what would prove to be Thorpe’s final two starts of the year saw him lit up to the tune of a 22.24 ERA as he surrendered 14 runs on just 5 2/3 innings across the pair of outings. In that time, he allowed four walks and four home runs while striking out just one batter.
Given those deep struggles, it’s perhaps somewhat reassuring that the heralded prospect has been dealing with significant physical issues that could help to explain not only his lackluster 5.48 ERA in his first taste of big league action but also the diminished strikeout rates he posted throughout his first year in the White Sox organization. That relative lack of strikeouts was paired with a fastball that averaged just 91.1 mph in the majors this year, a noticeable decrease compared to scouting reports that noted his ability to routinely sit at 92 and touch 95 with his heater.
With the White Sox in the midst of a lost season in which they’re flirting with the worst record in major league history and Thorpe currently expected to be ready for action in time for Spring Training next year, perhaps the youngster’s upcoming surgery is a sign that fans on the south side have a healthy, more effective Thorpe to look forward to next year. In the meantime, the Sox figure to rely on a rotation featuring Garrett Crochet, Jonathan Cannon, Chris Flexen, Nick Nastrini, and Davis Martin down the stretch.
White Sox To Promote Jairo Iriarte
The White Sox will officially call up right-handed pitching prospect Jairo Iriarte on Sunday when rosters expand to 28 players, according to the Tiburones Report and Daniel Alvarez-Montes of El ExtraBase (both links to X). The 22-year-old Iriarte will skip Triple-A Charlotte entirely in making the leap from Double-A right to the verge of his Major League debut. Iriarte is already on the 40-man roster, so the White Sox won’t need to make any other corresponding moves.
MLB Pipeline ranks Iriarte fifth among Chicago’s prospects, while Baseball America isn’t far behind with a seventh-place ranking. The righty was an international signing for the Padres out of his native Venezuela in 2018, and he was sent to the White Sox this past March as part of the trade package San Diego gave up to land Dylan Cease.
Over 126 innings with Birmingham, Iriarte has a 3.71 ERA, 10.7% walk rate, and 22.8% strikeout rate. The latter metric is well below the K-rates Iriarte posted in his previous three seasons, but his grounder rate has continued to move upwards, now up to a 46.7% rate. He has also continued to do a good job at keeping the ball in the park, with seven homers allowed over his 126 frames.
The scouting reports indicate Iriarte has a mid-90s fastball and a mid-to-low 80s slider as his primary two pitches, with a decent changeup that is still something of a work in progress. Both Pipeline and BA aren’t certain he’ll necessarily stick as a starting pitcher, but the White Sox will surely first see what he can do as a starter before considering a future move to the bullpen. Iriarte would seem to have a relief-friendly arsenal already, and he could potentially become a closer if a career as a starter isn’t in the cards.
Moving Iriarte straight to the majors from Double-A is a little unusual, as it wasn’t like the right-hander was so dominant in Birmingham that he was kicking down the door for a call-up. With the White Sox in full rebuild mode as they try to avoid a record-setting season of losing, there may not be much harm in evaluating any promising prospects they have, even if Iriarte just gets a couple of outings to get his feet wet against MLB hitters.
White Sox Place Nicky Lopez On Waivers
The White Sox have placed infielder Nicky Lopez on waivers, reports Kiley McDaniel of ESPN on X. There hasn’t been anything to suggest he has been designated for assignment, so he remains on the roster and can continue to play for the club while the waiver process plays out. However, the waivers are irrevocable, so he will be changing jerseys if someone does put in a claim.
Players claimed prior to September 1 are playoff-eligible for their new club. Teams out of contention will be placing players on waivers now in the hopes that someone else will put in a claim and therefore take on the remainder of the player’s contract, while giving the player the chance to play more meaningful games. Players like Michael A. Taylor of the Pirates, Drew Smyly of the Cubs, Tommy Pham of the Cardinals and others have reportedly been made available this month.
The White Sox are the team in the majors furthest from contention. Their 31-104 record translates to a .230 winning percentage, putting them in the running to finish as one of the worst clubs in the modern era.
Lopez, 29, came over to the club as part of the November trade that sent left-hander Aaron Bummer to Atlanta. He has generally served as a light-hitting utility guy in his career and that has continued during his time on the South Side. He has a line of .238/.310/.290 this year, which leads to a wRC+ of 73. That’s roughly in line with his career line of .247/.311/.314, which also leads to a wRC+ of 73.
On defense, he’s capable of playing all four infield positions and has also seen some time in left field. His grades have been strong everywhere he’s played. Oddly, he has -10 Defensive Runs Saved in just 281 2/3 shortstop innings this year, but that feels anomalous since he has been roughly league average in about 2,000 innings apart from that. Outs Above Average has given him a massive +34 ranking at short in his career, which also feels odd since that’s mostly due to a huge +25 grade in 2021, but he’s still better than par when ignoring that.
The Sox can retain him for next year via arbitration but they are likely leaning towards a non-tender at this point. He is making $4.3MM this year and would be due a raise, since the arbitration system effectively always pushes salaries northward. That’s a lot of money for a role player when the most recent offseason saw guys like Enrique Hernández, Adam Duvall, Randal Grichuk, Amed Rosario, Paul DeJong and the aforementioned Taylor sign for $4MM or less.
There’s roughly $700K remaining to be paid on Lopez’s salary this year. If any contender feels especially in need of a glove-first upgrade to their position player mix, they can grab Lopez off the wire. The priority goes in reverse order of standings, but teams outside of contention won’t have motivation to grab him.
White Sox Release John Brebbia
The White Sox released veteran right-handed reliever John Brebbia after designating him for assignment earlier this week, tweets Vinnie Duber of CHGO Sports. He’s now a free agent.
Brebbia inked a one-year, $5.5MM deal with the ChiSox in the offseason and has had a tumultuous tenure with the club. The 34-year-old righty started the season on a run of six scoreless appearances and had a sharp 3.38 ERA in mid-May before falling into a monthlong slump that ballooned his ERA to 7.71. He bounced back with a dominant five-week run kicking off in early June, wherein he rattled off 18 1/3 innings while allowing just two runs with a 27-to-4 K/BB ratio. Since that time, he’s been tagged for another 16 runs in 11 2/3 innings, however.
The end result of that roller coaster is a 6.29 ERA in 48 2/3 innings, although Brebbia’s rate stats are far more encouraging. He’s fanned a strong 26.9% of his opponents against a tidy 7.9% walk rate. Home runs have been a prominent issue for the righty (1.66 HR/9), however, and have typically been at the root of his struggles. That’s been especially true at the homer-friendly Guaranteed Rate Field in Chicago, where Brebbia has posted an ERA north of 7.00 and allowed seven of his nine homers on the season.
While Brebbia’s run with the White Sox won’t go down as an overall success, the right-hander has a solid track record and an encouraging K-BB profile even during his down 2024 showing. Brebbia entered the 2024 season with a career 3.42 ERA, 25.5% strikeout rate and 7.2% walk rate in 299 2/3 innings. He’d pitched in six big league seasons prior to the ’24 season and logged a sub-4.00 ERA in five of them.
Now that he’s been released, the Brebbia can sign with any club. If he lands with a new team on or before Aug. 31, he’d be eligible for the postseason roster, provided he can turn things around in the season’s final month. Any team that signs Brebbia would owe him only the prorated league minimum for any time spent on the MLB roster or injured list. The White Sox are on the hook for the remainder of his 2024 salary.
Nick Senzel Elects Free Agency
Infielder Nick Senzel has elected free agency, per James Fegan of Sox Machine on X. The White Sox had designated Senzel for assignment earlier this week and it appears he cleared waivers. Since he has more than five years of service time, he has the right to elect free agency while also retaining his salary.
Senzel, 29, started the season by signing with the Nationals, a one-year deal with a $2MM guarantee. He hit .209/.303/.359 in 235 plate appearances, production that translated into an 88 wRC+. He was designated for assignment in July and the Nats simply released him, likely due to his aforementioned right to elect free agency.
He then signed a major league deal with the Sox, which didn’t lead to better results. He only got into 10 games in over a month on the roster, stepping to the plate 32 times. He produced a dismal line of .100/.129/.133 in those, dropping his season-long line to .195/.283/.331 and a 73 wRC+. When combined with his time with the Reds in previous seasons, he has slashed .232/.299/.363 for a 76 wRC+ in over 1600 career plate appearances.
He hasn’t been able to provide anything on the other side of the ball either. He came up as a third baseman but the Reds had that spot filled by Eugenio Suárez at the time and moved Senzel around to other spots. He’s now played over 2,000 major league innings in the outfield, as well as over 800 at the hot corner and a brief look at second base to this point in his career. Advanced defensive metrics have given him negative grades at all those spots.
Given that track record, any interest in Senzel at this point would be based on his previous prospect pedigree. The Reds took him second overall in the 2016 draft based on his huge numbers at Tennessee, where he hit .332/.426/.509. He then hit .314/.390/.513 in the minors over the 2016-18 period, which got him onto the top ten of most league-wide prospect lists. But the big offensive production stopped once he reached the majors in 2019.
The results have come in far below expectations thus far, but Senzel is a cheap flier for any club that still has hope of him tapping into his previous form. The Nats are still on the hook for his salary since they released him earlier this year. Any other club could sign him for the prorated league minimum for any time spent on the roster, with that amount subtracted from what the Nats are paying.