More Cardinals Rumblings
Trusted blogger Lboros has a new post over at Viva El Birdos that does a solid, thorough job of sifting through the rumors flying about in relation to the Cardinals. Especially with that infamous memo. The memo! The memo! You can check out our post from yesterday morning as a refresher.
The short version:
Walt Jocketty has been unusually uptight this offseason and has been keeping things close to the vest.
The Abreu to the Cards rumor is more than idle speculation; it seems some talks have taken place on that. Lboros doesn't think the deal is a good fit economically or logically for the Cardinals, regardless.
Jason Marquis is as good as gone; Anthony Reyes is likely to stay.
Solid sources are saying the Cardinals are expected to sign A.J. Burnett soon, and lboros thinks that's the most likely scenario.

here's an update: bernie miklasz of the post-dispatch talked to "a high-ranking official" in the stl organization and asked him: is aj burnett signed? the answer was a flat-out no.
full post at
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/story/2005/11/30/132914/48
Posted by: l boros | November 30, 2005 at 12:35 PM
Something tells me he going to go to the Blue Jays.
Posted by: The Informer | November 30, 2005 at 12:47 PM
No way the Cards sign Burnett for that kind of money. They'll be hesitant to give him 5 years (whoever does is crazy) , they'll lose out to Matt Morris for big money, and they'll end up picking up 2 mid to low end starters (i.e. Marquis, Tomko, etc)
Posted by: Al 'talk thru my tooth' Wrobowski | November 30, 2005 at 12:52 PM
Here is the latest on a trade rumor involving the Cardinals
Phillies get: P Barry Zito, catching prospect Kurt Suzuki
Cardinals get: RF Bobby Abreu
A’s get: pitching prospect Anthony Reyes, 2B Alfonso Soriano
Rangers get: P Jason Marquis
Posted by: Jon | November 30, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Thanks Jon - that's an interesting one. We'll have to see how all this pans out.
The A's probably want to stay with Mark Ellis at 2B, so maybe they'd spin Soriano somewhere if the deal came true.
Posted by: RumorMonger | November 30, 2005 at 02:33 PM
So the A's give up Zito and catching prospect Suzuki to receive Reyes who can't stay healthy... and Soriano who hit .224/.265/.374 outside of Arlington?
Posted by: Insider | November 30, 2005 at 02:44 PM
jon, i also find that idea very intriguing. can you tell us anything about where you're getting the info?
Posted by: l boros | November 30, 2005 at 02:48 PM
It has been talked about on the radio here in Philly and on the Phillies website from numerous sources....the Phillies are shopping Abreu pretty hard to get a top pitcher in return....just heard on WIP (610) that the Phillies have also talked to the Giants about Abreu for Jason Schmidt....its getting HOT in Philly.
Posted by: Jon | November 30, 2005 at 02:54 PM
Please tell me you aren't taking Howard Eskin seriously...
Posted by: Peter | November 30, 2005 at 03:07 PM
Does anybody have this on their radar?
Cardinals send Anthony Reyes and Jason Marquis to Texas
A's send Zito to Toronto
Toronto sends Reed Johnson and Gustavo Chacin to St. Louis
Toronto sends Barry Zito to Oakland
St. Louis sends Reed Johnson and Gustavo Chacin to Toronto
Texas sends Anthony Reyes and Jason Marquis to St. Louis?
Posted by: HoopsCubs | November 30, 2005 at 04:51 PM
u cant give up reyes to much potential unless ur getting johan santana dont even think about it
Posted by: | November 30, 2005 at 05:49 PM
I had a ton of potential too.
Posted by: Rick Ankiel | November 30, 2005 at 06:13 PM
There have been so many Abreu trade rumors over the past three days, something is bound to happen.
-Bedard/Gibbons for Abreu
-Marquis/Reyes for Abreu
-Schmidt for Abreu
Posted by: Joe Roa | December 01, 2005 at 12:15 AM
Joe Roa didnt even mention the Abreu/Wells talks - Abreu/Manny (in NYPost today and on XM) and Abreu& Floyd/Zito and Kotsay
TSN's Rosenthal suggested ANgels get Abreu for Scot Shields and prospects - I assume he meant Jeff Mathis, Kendry Morales and Dallas McPherson or mayb even Chone Figgins.
Its not just on WIP - I heard these and I dont listen to WIP anymore...XM Radio and PhillySports950..
Plus the Message Boards are on fire...
Posted by: SteveH | December 01, 2005 at 09:36 AM
the cards should really think about signin' johnny damon as a cf because edmonds is getting old and he should then play l or r field. manny would be a great addition and everyone knows he will get traded, but the thing that concerns me is the money, but with the way walt is doin the cards should think about this so ill have somthin to be happy about. the cards might want to add jeff weaver or paul byrd for their pitchin staff and put anthony reyes at reliever.
Posted by: shane travelstead | December 16, 2005 at 11:46 PM
i hope walt jocketty is reading this because he should try to get johnny damon and manny ramirez and if walt keeps this up of what he is doin' then i wouldnt be surprised if he gave up albert!!! so come on walt step it up a little (or mostly a lot)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: shane travelstead | December 16, 2005 at 11:52 PM
the abreu deal wont happen for us (the cards) so just let it go which it looks like you did since it is the 16 and yall sent that on the 1st.
Posted by: shane travelstead | December 16, 2005 at 11:55 PM