Stark's Latest: Santana, Hamilton, Snell

I think the Reds would certainly have to part with a little bit more than Hamilton to get Snell. Probably Drew Stubbs or their next best prospect after him. Hamilton's injuries this season (and the fact that he's not exactly a proven commodity) should scare the Bucs.

last year around the deadline before freel got hurt gammons said that he was someone the red sox were interested in i believe , I assume hed still be fine with the super utility role , ala playing 4 days a week at various spots , hed be a nice 4th outfielder/infielder for the sox with some speed

My bad, thought braves fan was asking about snell

And btw, the reds are going to ask for one hell of a young pitcher for hamilton, and i do not know if jurrjens would be the answer

Now, the braves are looking for a centerfielder, and hamilton can play center, and if wren does not want a person who will block schafer or gorkys, we can always move him over to left. If the braves could get hamilton for say lillibridge and reyes/jurrjens, i would not be too disappointed, i however think that we are gonna stray away, one main reason because of the injury concerns

However, bravesbeast, you make a good point moving Hamilton left field

How about this:
Lester, Crisp, and oh, say maybe Lowrie to Minnesota for Santana. I know the Sox would be giving up one of their best pitching prospects and by far their best infielding prospect, but you have to give up some to gain some.

I would love to see KC trade for Hamilton. Sign either Torii Hunter or Andruw Jones for CF, flip DDJ to Atlanta or Florida for Lillibridge or Olsen, respectively with any prospects needed.

Then trade for Hamilton and put him in LF, with Gathright our 4th OFer.

Can't believe Cincy already wants to move Hamilton.

Yeah, I know...I just realized how pathetic that was...

bravesbeast: Ahh, something we do agree on! I won't bother posting in the older thread, but while I think Haren is worth what I said, your proposals here and there make a lot of sense. I'm just of the mind that Haren is one of those immediate impact pitchers, while Snell or Blanton would be nice, solid, but not what I had in mind. Needless to say it'll be interesting decision for Wren. I'd lean towards Blanton over Snell (without looking up their respective stats) but I'd think that he would cost more in the end.

About Dontrelle: It seems like he simply doesn't have enough value to justify trading him. He's a stand up guy and a fan favorite. He makes a lot more sense trading him at the deadline if he can put together even a decent first half.

Im sorry but i dont think the reds can get that kind of return for hamilton

My prediction:

Cashman offers Hughes, Cano & Cabrera for Santana and a dealbreaking 48hr extension window, whereas the Steinbrenner's set up another record contract by inking Johan for 7yrs and $175mm.

To clear room for the new NY poster boys, Hideki Matsui is shipped to the Cubs for Ronny Cedeno and Matt Murton. Cedeno slides into 2B and the 9 hole for the Yankees, while Murton shares time with Duncan in LF.

As far as CF, Cashman gets on his knees and prays that Damon can stay healthy. A lineup of Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Rodriguez, Posada, Giambi, Duncan, Betemit (1B), Cedeno can handle some poor CF defense.

There are my armchair moves for the day.

One advantage the Red Sox have in targeting Santana is that they match up well with the Twins' needs. Ellsbury could start in CF, Lowrie at 3B. Throw in another prospect, say Lars Anderson, and the Twins would have to seriously consider it.

The Yanks also match up pretty well with the Twins' though I don't know what 'discussing Phil Hughes' means. I assume that would be Hughes in addition to the required 2 starting position players.

Bring Josh Hamilton to the Braves. He and Willy Aybar should get along famously.

As for the Braves, I get the feeling that they feel comfterable with their rotation as is after the additions of Glavine and Jurrjens. They have two top-line starters in Smoltz and Hudson, and a decent 3-4-5 in Glavine, James, and Jurrjens (In whatever order you want to put them in, and no, im not counting on Mike Hampton for anything). Their biggest splash from here on out will probably be getting a Center Fielder, either a FA like Cameron or a trade for a Coco Crisp type IMO.

I really think the The Sox or Yankees will end up with Santana.

From Boston: Clay Buchholz, Coco Crisp, Jed Lowrie and Justin Masterson.

From New York: Philip Hughes, Melky Cabrera, Ian Kennedy and a 4th player.

"It sounds like the Yankees would discuss Phil Hughes" yeah sure whatever you say, like I'm going to believe that. If it is true the Yankees are retarded.

Love how the Marlins are still overvaluing the hell out of Dontrelle Willis. He is a shell of what he used to be and has fallen so far that he has to look up at "league average". He maybe worth a few B level prospects but the Marlins still think he is worth that top 10, blue-chipper. Guess the front office hasn't seen him pitch the last few years or something. Thats the only explanation I can come up with.

It would make more sense for the Yankees to pursue Dan Haren or Erik Bedard if its going to cost them Hughes/Cabrera/Cano for Santana. They won't do it unless they get Nathan or Neshek as well, and there's not much hope for that. Most likely he goes to a desperate club like the Mets, who will throw every farmhand they have at Minnesota.

“It sounds like the Yankees would discuss Phil Hughes”

…Oh no, no, no, no, no… The Yankess are not interested in high priced contracts and would never consider trading their big-3 SP-Prospect names ~ just ask a couple select members of this board who…

***rolls eyes***

With Bruce in the midst, and ownership wanting Dunn, the reds only need to find one other outfielder to play at Great American Small Park

Hahaha, I just got finished saying that in one of the Hunter threads ~ here is specificly what I posted:

“You know, I said the other day that it almost seems as though they will making a 1-2 year all-out push because Artie is thinking about selling the team ~ this deal leads me to believe it even more. I think they are about to nearly completely unload the top of the farm to bring in Cabrera and maybe even Willis from Fla. I think they might also swoop in and try to deal for Johan for 1 year… Get as much talent as possible, sell the team and let the new owner decide who they want to keep when everyone is up for FA in the next 2-3 years… End results:

C Mathis/Napoli
1B Rivera
2B Kendrick
3B Cabrera
SS Aybar
LF Mathews Jr
CF Hunter
RF Vlad
DH Anderson

SP Johan Santana
SP John Lackey
SP Escobar
SP Garland
SP Willis”