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The big story of today will undoubtedly be the Mitchell Report this afternoon. Dozens of current and former players are expected to be named, and they won't all be scrubs.
As you know, the focus of MLBTR is trades and free agent signings, hot stove stuff. I don't consider steroid rumors a big part of it. So I'll probably cover a little of it, focusing how the current hot stove landscape may be altered.
I did receive one tip on this topic - my guy says the Yankees are in for a bad day (but Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera are not in the report).
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Just looking at that roster I see 8-9 guys that I wouldn't be surprised at all to see on the report.
Posted by: Grizzlyfox | December 13, 2007 at 05:12 AM
heard the same thing, Mix of old and current Yankees
Giambi
Grimsley
Chuck Knoblach
Chad Curtis
Possibly Clemens and Pettitte, both were lsited in the Grimsley affidavit
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 13, 2007 at 05:38 AM
The anti-Yankee bias on this blog site is very transparent. The fact that you single out the Yankees in this proves that.
Posted by: lekman | December 13, 2007 at 05:39 AM
Giambi and Sheffield is no real secert is it? particularly the former.
I doubt it's going to be a bad day unless A-rod / Posada / Cano /Pettitte / Wang or some of the kids name pop up, Abreu might... but not that likely either.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | December 13, 2007 at 05:47 AM
hes not singling them out, its being leake dout right now. the yanks have more players n the list than any other team. Im a huge Yankee fan, and this is gonna be bad
Posted by: Chubz@postgamepub.com | December 13, 2007 at 05:48 AM
They shouldn't have had someone on the freaking Red Sox payroll leading the investigation. Not that Mitchell is not trustworthy, but how do you allow such a blatant appearance of impropriety? Seriously, how stupid do you have to be? If there's a glut of Yankees and only one or two scrub Red Sox on the report everyone is going to question its findings.
Posted by: VladimirPut-in | December 13, 2007 at 06:05 AM
I'm shocked! An officer in the Red Sox organization is releasing a report that singles out the Yankees for condemnation? Wow!
Posted by: dcstack | December 13, 2007 at 06:13 AM
My dark-horse has been Posada all along. He was on Monster Garage on the discovery channel 3 or 4 years ago and his arms had a diameter of like 1 foot.
Abreu wouldnt surprise me either.
Posted by: themfightnwords | December 13, 2007 at 06:18 AM
dcstack - singles out the yankees? you've seen the report already? So far we we have a source that says the yankees are going to have a bad day - and that has become singlling them out? Giambi, grimsley,sheffield- theres 3 off the top of head. Isn't it also possible that Mitchell being in the redsox organization could actually do the opposite what you think? knowing there will be public scrutiny couldn't he look harder at his own organization just to eliminate the rest of the teams whining about his impartiality?
What Johnny Damon and wade Boggs are on the list? bad day for sox? bad day for yankees? lets try this - bad day for baseball. I am a cub fan and i have a gut feeling we are going to have enough names on the list to wreck my day but to imply they are singling out the yankees is as realistic as the contention that they put mitchell in just to give the yankees an excuse to bitch about the results.
Posted by: touchmymonkey | December 13, 2007 at 06:25 AM
of course ny teams are gonna be singled out...all of mitchell's findings came from the met's clubhouse assistant. mitchell even admitted in the report that without that guy, the report woulda been pretty small. so, of course the report will centralize around ny, but in my mind will not canvas all of baseball like it should have.
Posted by: Nj_Intimidator | December 13, 2007 at 06:38 AM
Why would it be a bad day for the Yankees if guys like Giambi, Sheffield, Grimsley, Knoblauch, etc. were on the list? Even Pettitte and Clemens on there wouldn't be a shock. It would be a bad day if guys like Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Cano were on the list. Most of the other guys were Yankees for short periods via trade or FA.
I do agree that Selig was wrong in selecting a member of one of the teams to run this whole operation. An independant source should be have been doing it.
I just can't for all of this non-sense to be over with, so we can move on.
Posted by: ram07 | December 13, 2007 at 06:49 AM
You're most likely right NJ there will be mostly NY linked players for the reason you stated. If the Astros club attendant rolled then it would be filled with players that passed thru houston. Thats a bit different than singling out the NY teams. All this report will do is embarass a few mid level players - give us names we already know about or don't care about and possibly kickstart a senate investigation with subpeona power which will get " all baseball" much better than the mitchell report ever could. My guess for saddest entry on list - my man Kerry Wood ( god i hope not lol )
Posted by: touchmymonkey | December 13, 2007 at 06:51 AM
Yes, there will be several players on the Yanks, but look at that list. Most, if not all, were free agents, meaning they are also linked to other teams. If no Sox are named, it will be a shame.
I think Mitchell conducted as fair an investigation as he legally could, but omitting any RedSox player smacks as "favoritism".
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 07:02 AM
I think the investigation stinks of bias, Ok so a member of the Red sox Board is running the investigation? I am willing to be there are only a couple of scrub names from the sox on there. Garciaparra being the biggest name.
If this is the case and the sox come out looking a little too clean is this going to raise eyebrows?
What I am implying is if the sox are the team with the least amount of names will it look like George Mitchell left them off to make sure his paychecks keep coming after this report?
and will anyone be surprised if Carl Pavano is on this report?
Posted by: beantownyanksfan | December 13, 2007 at 07:03 AM
Also, you want a preview of the names sure to be listed, check out the amazing site (no, not mine): http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/
they do a pretty great job of laying out the steriod chain.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 07:04 AM
last thing, here is my rant on this whole investigation, before it comes out (http://myespn.go.com/jnr98):
Some thoughts before the storm...
No name on the Mitchell Report will surprise me. Not one. That's a sad commentary on the players of the last 12-15 years. Also sad: I know I am not alone.
Some names would disappoint me if they are on it. Just so long as Jeter's name isn't on it. Not that I expect him to be a saint, but it would just tarnish everything that I have thought about him, everything I have told my boys he's about. Do I want them wearing his jersey if he's named?
How do I explain to young kids that their favorite players (they like lotsa guys from lotsa teams thanks to The Bigs on the Wii) have been cheating? Anyone have an idea?
Re: Mitchell himself: I don't think anything he reports, short of a phone book full of names, will carry any weight. A collective "so what" or "is that it" will be heard across the land. And sadly, because I think he's done this on the up-and-up, he going to be accused of conflicts of interest due to his RedSox affiliation...someth ing he should have resigned from prior to starting this endeavor. If Papi and/or Manny was on that list, I wouldn't be upset, mind you.
Re: Bud: He needs to stand up and shoulder the responsibility of not doing enough soon enough. He knew it was an issue in the mid-90's and should have screamed from the mountaintop more often.
Re: Union leadership, Fehr, etc.: You BETTER take some of the heat, too. Yes, your job is to protect your constituency but this would have been protecting them, also.
And for the love of all things holy, will any named player stand up and take responsibility for their actions? Enough of this "unknowingly" crap. Be a man. You're man enough to cash the check. Be man enough to say you took stuff to get in the game or stay in the game. We can handle that. Just take responsibility for yourself.
That's it for now. More sometime tomorrow afternoon, if possible.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 07:09 AM
The Yankees may have a lot of guys, but my prediction is Tony Larussa and Dusty Baker will have a boatload of former players on this list.
Posted by: Teetz | December 13, 2007 at 07:21 AM
Ok the name I think will be on the list that no one has said is Larry Walker. Anyone wanna throw some names out people might not expect?
Posted by: Dev0 | December 13, 2007 at 07:22 AM
I predict Tony Larussa and Dusty Baker will have a good load of their former/current players on there.
Posted by: Teetz | December 13, 2007 at 07:23 AM
Tim,
Did your Yankees tip come from a "trusted New York sportswriter?"
As we all know, trusted New York sportswriter, are not to be trusted, are sometimes not from New York, and are often not sportswriters.
Posted by: Marvel | December 13, 2007 at 07:23 AM
Some of them will be of no surprise, when talking about the Yankees. Many names have already been linked to HGH, steroids, etc. such as Clemens, Pettitte, Grimsley, Sheffield and Giambi.
Other than that, I would only expect maybe another 2 or 3 Yankees. If that is the case, that wouldn't be a bad day at all.
Posted by: TheCaptain2 | December 13, 2007 at 07:24 AM
I also predict the Mitchell Report will be 50 pages of how Kevin Mitchell used steroids.
Posted by: Teetz | December 13, 2007 at 07:28 AM
anyone else think joba?
Posted by: joe14 | December 13, 2007 at 07:35 AM
David Segui who was named by Jason Grimsley, says he will be named in the Mitchell Report.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-segui1210,0,2089074.story
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | December 13, 2007 at 07:40 AM
the only name that could possibly ruin my day on this report would be Frank Thomas. I'm just hoping that him being enormous was due to him working hard and having a huge frame to begin with, along with his football background. Id be so pissed if my favorite player of all time was a cheater.
Posted by: trober81 | December 13, 2007 at 07:43 AM
I hope this is good day not a bad one when we look back at it. I hope it's the day that players in all sports realize there will be serious consequences for using performance enhancing drugs (though it'll probably be a paper tiger). That they have to take more seriously their impact on an impressionable younger generation of players. My kid's only 2 so I haven't had to have that talk yet about not really being able to look up to pro athletes anymore because of the cloud of all this.
What still bothers me most though is that the MLB powers that be (Selig and the other owners) that rode the backs of McGwire and Sosa to bring the game out of the ashes of '94 haven't and won't accept any responsibility for the mess THEY created. Remember "Chicks dig the long ball"? The whole marketing pitch of the game banked on the enhanced performances of those two guys. Now, they want to throw those guys under the bus and act like they were just naive? Bull crap. They owe those guys big time for the financial windfall the game is experiencing right now and they've turned their collective backs on them. Shame on you Bud.
My solution is and will always be, accept the last 20 years '88-'08 as the steroid era. Build the Bud Selig memorial wing on Cooperstown where you can feel free to induct Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, etc....without any stigma. I'm sorry for guys like Jeter and Greg Maddux, who by physique alone, you can tell didn't juice. You guys are stuck in the "new" wing.
Posted by: bweav44 | December 13, 2007 at 07:54 AM
Pujols, A-Rod, and Clemens are the only players that would break my heart, baseball wise. As a Cubs fan, I hope not to see Lee, Wood, and Soriano on there, but beyond that, it's not going to bother me.
I think the biggest shock is going to be the number of pitchers on the list. People don't think of pitchers when they think of roids, but the fact is they are helped MORE by them than by hitters...the primary function is to heal muscle tissue faster, meaning starters come back stronger through a whole season, relievers come back more often. I've always eyed Schilling suspiciously and guys who were fantastic but then crashed and burned with injuries like Kevin Brown are also ones I'd suspect. Also, I say Clemens would break my heart, but I expect him to be on there honestly.
Posted by: chrishickman | December 13, 2007 at 07:59 AM
Let me get this straight. Not one person in the major media outlet has seen the report or even heard a name leaked out, but this little blog supposedly has contacts that have?
I call bullshit.
Posted by: TimmyGUNZ | December 13, 2007 at 08:04 AM
What I am curious to see: How many are from outside the US and if any less than 100% will claim it's from a tainted supplement?
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:05 AM
The Rocket is on this list, you watch.
Posted by: NLBaseball21 | December 13, 2007 at 08:10 AM
thats as obvious as saying brett boone is on the list, not very shocking....
Posted by: trober81 | December 13, 2007 at 08:14 AM
If they are only naming those who have been implicated or named by others, then yes, Clemens will be on the list. No new news here. Check out www.baseballssterioidsera.com for a whole listing of those Admitted, Implicated, and Tested Positive.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:15 AM
I think, as much as its easy to say Bud Selig etc caused a lot of this, the current issue in cleaning it up is caused by the players union.
Posted by: Dev0 | December 13, 2007 at 08:21 AM
Brandon Fahey of the Orioles is probably wholed up in some dingy motel in anytown, usa...registered under an assumed name, hiding from the inevitable media crush that will divulge upon his home at 2pm this afternoon.
Posted by: Jared78 | December 13, 2007 at 08:27 AM
Haha, I have an anti-Yankee bias? Can we put a moratorium on all the baseless claims of bias? I don't hate the Astros, Yankees, or any other team. I just call it like I see it and report solid tips if I get 'em. I am not hoping to see Yankees in the report.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | December 13, 2007 at 08:33 AM
TimmyGUNZ, there have already been 5-10 reports sourcing people with knowledge of the report. My guy didn't claim to see the report.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | December 13, 2007 at 08:36 AM
The thing no one is talking about which a friend of mine mentioned last night is the Tejada deal happening so quickly. What if the Orioles knew that Tejada would be named and turned around to make the best deal possible ASAP? Granted the Astros made out okay but what if anything would occur if he is named?
Posted by: ProjectMayhem | December 13, 2007 at 08:43 AM
Wow, Yankee fans have got to be the most paranoid fans in sports. Everything is a conspiracy with you people. Games are lost because of umps, bugs, the phase of the moon, et al. If Yankee players are found on this report it's because of Mitchell's affiliation with the Sox. You're all very fragile, aren't you?
Posted by: fapelbon | December 13, 2007 at 08:44 AM
Bergen Record was reporting it first...
"According to one industry official, "several" prominent Yankees will be named by Mitchell in his 2 p.m. news conference in Manhattan. The official, who spoke to a third party who'd seen the final report, predicted, "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx" after the identities are made public."
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkyNjgmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcyMzMwNDEmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2
Eh...I wonder if he means current "prominent Yankees" or former. And does Giambi count as a prominent Yankee? He's like a part-time always injured DH. Unless Jeter or Rivera's names pop up, I don't think this has a big impact on the Yankees. I'd expect a ton of former Yankees to pop up, Giambi and Grimsley are "leaks" so to speak.
That being, the whole report has legitimacy and integrity issues. Someone on the Red Sox payroll doing it, the only current major league player they talk to is Giambi, they come up with these lists of players who took any number of supplements when the stuff wasn't banned by baseball.
I will say this, I'd be shocked if Knoblauch wasn't named. I remember touring the Yankee clubhouse for one of my MBA classes and he had the very largest collection of creatine, andro and every other supplement in the world stuffed into his locker (this was in '98 before the whole andro/McGwire issue heated up.)
Posted by: rkab | December 13, 2007 at 08:45 AM
For some reason, I don't think Brandon Fahey is the focus of everyone's attention today. Just a hunch.
And FWIW, Tim is not anti-Yankee biased.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:45 AM
hey fapelbon, not all of us are, trust me.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:46 AM
ESPN is now reporting Clemens is in it.
I'm not surprised. And is this a bad day for Yankee fans? Do Yankee fans even like Clemens?
Posted by: rkab | December 13, 2007 at 08:47 AM
They just announced on ESPN that former trainer Brian McNamee has told the investigation that he gave steroids to Clemens. He was also Pettitte's trainer. (no new news here, though)
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:49 AM
I'm a Yankee fan and I am not surprised. Did I like him? Tough question. I rooted for him. Then again, I root for laundry.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:50 AM
I predict Sammy Sosa will not be on the list. If not, will the report have credibility? I read that besides Barry Bonds, none of the names from the Balco investigation will be included because they were gathered from leaked grand jury testimony.
Posted by: cachhubguy | December 13, 2007 at 08:51 AM
"For some reason, I don't think Brandon Fahey is the focus of everyone's attention today. Just a hunch."
I must be thinking of the Ephedra Report...Fahey, Casey Fossum, and crazy Otis Nixon...check their teeth for stomach acid.
Posted by: Jared78 | December 13, 2007 at 08:53 AM
we dont need the mitchell report to determine that sosa juiced, its fairly obvious he did.
Posted by: trober81 | December 13, 2007 at 08:53 AM
"I think the biggest shock is going to be the number of pitchers on the list. People don't think of pitchers when they think of roids, but the fact is they are helped MORE by them than by hitters..." - chrishickman
I agree 100%. The big sluggers naturally get the brunt of the scrutiny, but the pitchers have been just as dirty, if not moreso, all along.
Posted by: gundy315 | December 13, 2007 at 08:53 AM
I don't see how Yankee fans can call it a conspiracy. They have been busted the most times as far as i can tell. The Yanks do anything to win, including signing guys who obviously have used roids. I personally don't care if a guy used or not because they'd still be a lot better than I ever could. The Yanks have had a number of guys use who could then tell their buddies about it so its easy to imagine a team getting taken over by roids. Especially when you have some of the guys who are good at hiding it for so long, Clemens, Pettitte etc. No one stays that good for so long like Clemens did. His career should have ended a long time ago. The only name that would shock me would be Griffey Jr. if it came out he used I would be really disappointed because for me he is the greatest player talent wise to ever set foot on a field because he didn't have to cheat like they always have in baseball.
Posted by: celtics464 | December 13, 2007 at 08:56 AM
IF that's the list for Ephedra, isn't that an advertisement that it doesn't help much? ;)
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:57 AM
That's right Celtics, only the Yanks sign 'roiders. Right.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 08:59 AM
I'm a Yanks fan and there will be Sox on the List. Clemens was a Sox. So was Canseco. So was Paxton Crawford. Let's all stop crying about "bias" and realize that this was prevasive and while many players were on the Yanks, they were also on many other teams. Sheffield's toured the MLB. Giambi was an A when got hooked. Jeremy Giambi was on the Sox too. Enough, fellow Yanks fans, crying about Mitchell.
Posted by: jnr98 | December 13, 2007 at 09:00 AM
Some guys that cheat might not even make this list.
Posted by: Oh Boy | December 13, 2007 at 09:01 AM
Thats not what I said jnr98. But for Yanks to accuse Mitchell's bias for them having so many possible names is ludicrous. Its widely known they have had a number of roid users in recent history. How many is not known, but they have had more than their fair share of them. Just be glad this list isn't going to name everyone because I'd love to have seen Jeter's name and then all the Yank fans who prop him u pas a God to their kids would look really foolish, which they should be anyways.
Posted by: celtics464 | December 13, 2007 at 09:13 AM
Just heard on Dallas radio (1310 AM) that Clemens' former strength & conditioning coach says the Rocket's going to be one of those named.
This could be a bad day for the Astros too...
Posted by: jatorres | December 13, 2007 at 09:15 AM
Clemens didn't use roids as a Red Sox player, his career was going down the toilet before he left and all of a sudden resurrected his career.
Posted by: celtics464 | December 13, 2007 at 09:16 AM
Wow, lots of good comments throughout this thread.
ProjectMayhem - not sure where you've been but that has been brought up countless times on here recently.
Jared78 - no reason to drag my man Otis through the mud. Let him wilt away in peace.
The only people that it would break my heart to see on the list are Chipper and Smoltz. What do you think the chances of them being named are?
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | December 13, 2007 at 09:31 AM
The reason that many prominent Yankees will be named is because they were succesful team during the time of steroid use. The unfortunate thought about this is that if a clubhouse attendent on the Tampa Bay Devil Rays gave up 8 players, would it be as big of a deal.
This is baseball and baseball was flooded with steroids. It doesn't matter who it was and how succsful those players were on whatever teams-
The focus has to be on the issue of steroids, not the issue of who was doing them. Everyone was using steroids.
Posted by: moxmox | December 13, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Teetz - sorry to forget you. Post of the morning so far, with the Kevin Mitchell line.
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | December 13, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Hank Aaron on Steroids...
http://www.protrade.com/content/DisplayArticle.html?sp=S8687c664-c2d1-11db-9291-83f05e1a00a7
Posted by: cubs15 | December 14, 2007 at 04:11 PM