Willis/Pudge Spinoff To Mets?

Your're starting to put "Rumors" up here that are being started on the Mets' message board.

This makes no sense, i dont believe this rumor. The tigers already traded Rabelo, why would they try and get rid of all their catchers

Pelfrey, Church and Heilman for a pitcher that had a 5+ ERA in the NL East and a catcher that will be on the Mitchell report that sported a .294 OBP last year???

If the Mets do this deal, it better be for lower level minor leaguers.

could be interesting. i always got the impression there was some intense bad blood between d-train and the mets.

The D-Train to the Mets part I can believe. If Omar can't get a better pitcher then maybe he gives up a guy like Gomez plus some fluffer. But the Pudge part is just stretching it. This site went from being a decent rumor site to absolute trash the last few days. Now we have to sift through 30 posts a day that say the same thing in a different way, then read another 15 that say that the original post isn't going to happen anyway for whatever reason.

i know some butt heads around here how are the mets going to have 4 catchers if they get rodriguez and willis that means they have to trade one or two of them so prbably estrada schneider and pelfrey

Well they would non tender Johnny Estrada so its really only three catchers. But yeah I would think they would include one of Castro and Schneider in the deal, even though neither one is particularly valuable

Well they would non tender Johnny Estrada so its really only three catchers. But yeah I would think they would include one of Castro and Schneider in the deal, even though neither one is particularly valuable

this train would please me seriously the d-train is the truth. even though his stats have went down fast, but still look wat rick peterson did with oliver perez. amazing how he went from ace to garbage and then 15 game winner right.

I would hate any such trade...God, why can't the Mets just make a normal trade?

scribbletone,

I think you're right, but it wasn't because of a salary dump. Not too mention Pudge is a team leader with no immediate replacement. Shefield was not happy in NY and both sides wanted him gone.

I don't see the point in the Tigers trading anyone to the Mets. Detroit is obviously looking to win now.

No way.....this is all to raise Inges value on the trade market, make people believe he is going to catch for the Tigers in 2008.

Why would the Mets even want Pudge. They have Schneider who is as good defensively, and the same arguement I gave with Lo Duca... he will hit anywhere from 40-60points lower then either of those guys, but reach base at a higher clip because he will occasionally take a walk. He like a third of Pudge. I would take Willis though, if they can get him cheap.

I registered just to comment on this "rumor."

I love this site, and I find myself checking it several times a day. That being said, this "rumor" is far fetched that it doesn't even deserve to be on this site. This is just another instance of the New York media latching one of their teams another in the press.

Ridiculous.

BS BS BS BS I need a break from crap like this

OK Tigers fans...

You have a catcher that is making $13mil next season, coming off a horrible year.

You have a pitcher in arbitration coming off a horrible year.

What could they possibly ask for in return for the pair?

And before you say, "I'm sure you like Minaya before this," it's not true. I've never liked the guy, and I was scared shitless when he made him our GM because of the awful job his did with the Expos (despite the unwarranted praise he received).

I dont even want pudge. I'm good with Schneider.

Moe, so Schneider is a spare part? Why, because he isnt a good hitter? Funny how Pudge is considered a star, and Schneider is a scrub, but they both play tremendous defense and Schneider has had a better OBP over the last 3 years then Pudge. Noit saying Schneider is better, but it is close.

If the worst thing that you can say about Minaya is that he traded away Heath Bell and Matt lindstrom, then theres my point. Bell had chances to make the team for like 3 years, and he sucked. He was always pouting and complaining about something. He has good stuff, and San Diego made a good move in brining him into the place where relievers go and dominate.

Owens and Lindstrom were both like 28 or 29 or so, and career minor leaguers, so he traded them for young lefties. Hard throwing relief pitchers can be found anywhere. Florida is also known for taking relievers and making them succesful.

Lindstrom was pitching in AA, as a 26 year old in 2005, and getting rocked to a tune of a 1.98 whip and 5.40 era and walking 55 in 73 innings. In 2006, as a 27 year old, they sent Lindstrom back to A ball, where he dominated in 18 innings of work, though he walked 7 guys. He was promoted to AA again, and struggled to keep his ERA under 4 in 43 innings. He posted a 1.4 whip.

Henry Owens, he never even made it above AA, where he did dominate as a 27 year old for one year. When he was called up to the majors, his fastball was as straight as an arrow and he proceeded to get rocked, even in mop up duty, albeit in a small sample size. He also has had some injury problems.

At the time of the trade, Adam Bostick was a 22 year old pitcher with an era of around 4 in the minors, and lefty. Vargas was a a 23 year old lefty one year removed from a solid season at the big league level. Every trade isnt going to have an immediate impact. They may work out down the road, or maybe not, but is not, its only Matt Lindstrom.

Its funny that you criticize moves where the Mets trade away old career minor league relief pitchers for young lefties with a little upside, then you turn around and also criticize the deal where Milledge is sent away for a one or two year improvement for what Milledge MAY provide at some point down the road. How do you know Milledge will not completely flop out? I dont think he will, but to criticize a prospect deal when we get two solid major league proven commodities before any of the traded players even play a game is silly. I dont think Milledge will post and 800 ops yet in 2008. I am expecting a .275/.345/.445 line next year. From Church, I expect a line of around .275/.350/.495 next year, in at bats vs mostly righties. Schneiders leadership and game calling ability gives us the edge in this trade for the next year or two. The ultimate winner of the trade will not be known until Milledge either develops, or doesnt.

Ok you Tiger MORONS, after reading all you're crap comments, saying theres no "source" to this rumor exceot the one that had the Tigers shoot us (Mets) down....well heres a link thats a little more current...maybe we can get Kitna back in this deal too (10 wins, huh?)

Wow IronMike, did you even read that article?

"The Mets would be interested in speaking with the Tigers, but no dialogue is believed to have occurred yet."

No dialog because the Tigers have no interest. This is a non-story. Move along.