Brewers, Yankees Interested In Mike Cameron

talk about a sack lunch...

I just can't see the Brewers making that many changes on the defensive side to acquire a center fielder. I will say though that signing Cameron would definetely be an upgrade and something I would like to see. If they are going to switch positions around why not just move Hall to LF and leave Braun at third.

The Brewers aren't making that many changes to acquire a centerfielder; they're making that many changes to move Braun off third base.

"hall gets paid millions to play a game.

he needs to shut his hole and play where they tell him to."

Shut your mouth if you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Hall has not said one word about not wanting to move back. He is a consumate team player.

It's the Brewers management that doesn't want to move him back because they've been moving him around for a long time and they feel they owed it to him to give him one spot.

I do not see the Brewers getting a Centerfielder. They might get a baseman in a trade, but that means they will move Braun to centerfield. Cameron is not a good fit, no speed, no defense and high strikeouts. The Brewers already have too many who will strike out.

"no speed, no defense and high strikeouts."

Are you thinking of Mark Carreon?

Maybe the Brewers could trade Hall for DeJesus. This seems like it would make both clubs better. DeJesus is bats left and plays center. The Royals would get a right handed bat, with a little added pop. The Brewers could still pick up Cameron, and move DeJesus to left.

Any chance the Angels get in on a Bill Hall trade? We have plenty of outfielders and pitchers to spare, both of which the Brewers need.
Willits, Santana, and a prospect for Hall? Is that too much?

I didn't think that the Brewers were looking to sign an outfielder to a multi-year deal.. I'm not sure exactly how many years Cameron will wind up getting, but I imagine it would be at least 3.

Nobody likes to shift a guy around a lot.. A similar thing happened with Casey Blake for the Indians in the past few years, he has been yanked around between RF, 3B and 1B.. but the Indians finally settle on a home for him at third (probably, haha). I think it is definitely worth talking to your guys and seeing if they are willing/able to make the switch. I think that both Braun and Hall would be willing to move to LF and 3B, respectively, to get a guy like Mike Cameron.. Also, both guys should be more than capable of making the switch. Cameron is getting up there in age a bit, but still an amazing center fielder, with some good pop in his bat and has decent stolen base potential as well.. His AVG and OBP won't be pretty and he is going to strikeout way too much every year, but still would be a solid addition.

does anybody kno the tradability of reggie willits of the angels .. ive been saying for months now that the crew should inquire about his availability .. speed and a high avg/obp switch hitter who plays left field .. hed be perfect as a number 1 hitter/starting left fielder for the crewq

its funny you mentioned willits as I was posting about him haha

jrfukudome-

is that high for the Brewers or the Angels? How much do you think it would take to get Braun to the Angels?
Willits, Santana and Figgins?

I don't think the Brewers would give up Braun, but your package would sound like the minimum. Think about it this way: Braun probably has more potential than Kendrick, and the Angels wouldn't include Kendrick in a deal for Cabrera. But Ryan Braun for a fourth outfeilder and "pitching depth"? Come on.

I didn't actually think that they would give him up, but hey, you can dream right?
I'll warn you right now though, Willits is HIGHLY overrated. He had one good month, but outside of that, he was below average. He looked lost on the field, and he couldn't really hit that well.
I'd say Bill Hall for Willits and a prospect. That would make me happy.

Oh, and Braun as more offensivle potential than Kendrick, but he couldn't like the dirt off of Kendrick's cleat defensively.
Both have very high potential, and IMO, very very bright futures

Kendrick is a second baseman. Brewers already have a 2B with plenty of upside, are you thinking that Kendrick moves to 3rd?

Is a Braun trade conversation seriously going on here? The guy had one of the most incredibly rookie seasons with a bat that any player has ever had. This guy has hall of famer potential, and the Brewers would move him for a solid center fielder and a back of the rotation starter?

Braun would take at least one top notch pitcher prospect, like the Rays got Garza for Young. If the Angels wanted Braun, the talks would start with Jered Weaver or Nick Adenhart. The Brewers would probably want a catcher, either Mathis or Conger. So yeah, its not gonna be for Willits and Saunders. Willits, Santana and Figgins might get it done, but I think the Angels would win that one. The guy is gonna be making practically no money for the next couple years and is under control for quite a while. So yeah, it'd take one of Weaver and Adenhart, and then one of Mathis and Conger. At least.

…errr, scratch that ~ should be:
“Vlad/Hunter/Mathews/Anderson/Kotchman/*KENDRY MORALES* will on be on the 25-man”

(((Man, I think I invert those two each and every time I mention one of them… :\ )

I'd prefer a mega platoon of Gross/Dillon/Rottino/Gwynn whoever-is-hot type of deal the Corey Hary emerged out of last year. I'm not saying that any of those guys are nearly as talented as Corey, but that competition for a position brings out the best in some players.

Shawn Green could end up being a great signing for Milwaukee, as could Cameron or Lofton or maybe even LuGo... however none of these moves seem anywhere near perfect... but this type of thing is always unpredictable, there are way too many factors that none of us know about.

BrewCrew,

We're not "dreaming" of a Ryan Braun trade; we are remarking how stupid it would be if they signed a mediocre LEFT-fielder and bottom of the lineup hitter (Shawn Green) so that they could guarantee that they're defense was awful and their young pitchers frightened to throw a strike.

Hell, I would soon agree on the Dillon/Gross platoon, that's why I wanted So Taguchi.

I'm not a Brewer's fan but I like the Brewers. It's not as simple as a plus 0.50 OPS in limited at bats for 1/8 of the lineup. I know, I read Moneyball. Again, three kinds of lies . . .

Go ahead & ship Melky to the ATL :) We'll go ahead & part with Devine for him...lmao (Wishful thinking -- no one take this seriously from me)

i could see Cameron signing in MIL with them having Hardy leadoff. they could use the veteran pressence. just play Gwinn 1st 25 games. Patterson in ATL. Melky isn't getting traded unless its in Santana deal, i'd love for Yanks to get Marte but not for Melky- i dont value 30+y/o relievers as much as L.A. cheap young switch hitting CFers

Maxi you are obviously dont know anything about the Brewers

Hardy would NEVER leadoff(.323OBP)

Not to mention the Brewers have a top 5 leadoff hitter in Rickie Weeks..(.374OBP).. suffered from Wrist injury from aug 2006 till about Aug 2007 and then he started hitting when that Wrist was close to 100%

His final 7 weeks with a healthy wrist he hit .320BA/ .445OBP/ 11HRs all in 6 or 7 weeks...

Rickie has such Sheffeild type stance that makes the wrists very important and when he had surgery in 2006 on it the Doctor said that it would take a fully year to be pain free... he still played anyway..and it got so bad that he could not hit the ball to Right Field at all.

So Yost told him to pull everything and take the SS head off.

When he finally got healthy he had to be sent down to fix his swing since he got use to Pulling everything.. he was down for a week.. fixed the swing and came up and hit everything...

So please if you are going to comment on the Brewers please know something about them...

I usually dont comment on teams I know nothing about... thats why I stick to NL Central teams because I study them alot especially the Cubs...

Oh, erbacaine... so it was completely obvious to everyone that Hart would be a 30/30 guy someday? Why then, was he not an every day player from the beginning of this year? Since we wasn't an everyday player to start the year, why can't I say that he "emerged?" I know they liked him, but the point is that just because you like a prospect and he has nice potential doesn't make him a stud. My girlfriend is the first witness that I complained every day that Corey Hart should be starting every day before he was, but I'm not saying I knew he would play as well as he did. I agree that he played well enough last year to be kept in the plans, but to say that it was totally expected is false. The brewers "like" Gabe Gross too, that's why we acquired him in the Overbay deal. If he all of a sudden does a great job are you going to say that the everyone expected it all along?

MrQuestions-

He actually started the year as the Everyday RFer..but he struggled the first 2 weeks and guys like Mench and Gwynn picked it up... So Hart was platooned for... Hart would still hit against Lefties and Mench/Gwynn/Gross got their shots vs Righties.

Hart then had a slight thumb injury that kept him benched for 4 games at the end of April. He then started showing he had his stroke back against lefties...Gwynn started struggling again so they used Hart against Righties and he had regained that stroke.

But he WAS penciled in as the Everyday starter in RF until he struggled...
Part of why Yost went to a platoon with Hart was that the Platoon with Jenkins and Mench was really looking good to start the year and Hart was struggling so he thought maybe lets try that for a while as well..

"you are talking like it was not expected... He was always one of the best Minor leaguers at Every level...he put up better Batting average and Power numbers than Prince and Weeks in the minors... He was always expected to be a 30/30 guy"

...Just wanted to add; although meaningless to most of you, I go to countless High-A games in the Cali-League and Corey Hart by far stands out as the most impressive player I have seen step on the field. This guy looked like he could have stepped on the ML stage and instantly become a mega-star ~ and he was only like 19-20 years old at the time. He and Khalil Greene were the two guys that I just couldn’t wait to get to the majors, they had Star written all over them and went about the game with such an ease it was almost unreal.

sidenote, sadly I never got to see Fielder or Weeks in High-A ~ both of them skipped past it despite my wanting them to make it here… BTW Erbacaine, do you know what ever happened to Daryl Clark to derail his career? He was older and not as much of a pure talent, but he was destroying the ball at an amazing pace for that club.

Yeah Darkster if I remember correctly Clark was a STUD in High A ball.. then he got promoted and jsut seemed over matched... and later dropped back down to A ball.

Funny thing is the Brewers no.1 prospect that Brad Nelson is still in farm and at 24 looking to be back from injury...had a good year last year in Triple A..and can almost play every postition except Catcher.

Which is the common theme among alot of our prospects because for them to get playing time with so many Top level prospects they needed to try new spots...

Some of the Brewers best prospects for pitchers are starting to get healthy to... Manny Parra...Mike Jones and Mark Rogers..

Parra and Jones were constant Baseball America top 100 players until injuries got them...

Rogers is finally starting 2008 fully healed... and say that his stuff has not been affected by the injuries... in 2004 when drafted in the first round(same draft as Hughes, Homer and Yovanni) scouts said he had the best Stuff in the draft...

SO I am hoping he has a Manny Parra type season(stays healthy and climbs the ladder and is ready for 2009)

erbacaine: agreed 100%. Tony Gwinn Jr. needs to get traded before we expose how bad of a hitter he is... We can still find a sucker to take him... He has such litle power that any pitcher will challange him, who cares if he slaps a single? Maybe he's hitting the roids hard in the offseason or something... i mean the HGH...

I also feel irritation when people who have absolutely no clue about the brew crew make retarded comments that expose how little they know... why is it so hard to ignore ignorance?