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As you know, the Rays snagged outfielder Nathan Haynes off waivers yesterday from the Angels. I liked this move; let's take a closer look at the 28 year-old outfielder.
MLB.com's Lyle Spencer speaks of Haynes' "sprinter's speed" and defensive talents at all three outfield positions. Haynes' prospect status expired years ago, but he seems equally as valuable as many free agents signed for millions in the last few years. I think there's still a lot of talented late-20s players who just need a chance, guys like Haynes, Marcus Thames, and Jack Cust. Haynes' path has been slowed by many knee and hernia issues.
PECOTA has Haynes hitting .265/.334/.405 this year; ZiPS is far less optimistic. I'll be curious to see how this no-risk move pans out.
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"I'll be curious to see how this no-risk move pans out."
This is why I have no problem with the Rays adding Haynes. So what if he strikes out a ton and has been in the minors for 11 years. There is no negative to this, they don't lose really any money or talent. Maybe he gives them a quality speed option as a 4th outfielder, RF platoon guy. Maybe he sucks. Then let him go and the Rays maybe lose one win this season.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 29, 2008 at 10:35 AM
This is this 2008's version of Josh Wilson for the Rays. Another retread that no one else wants. Hey, why try to improve your team when you can choose the inexpensive way out? It's called the "Rays' Way!"
Posted by: HoratioAlgae | March 29, 2008 at 10:42 AM
I said this yesterday and was blasted. This is a nice cheap pickup for the Rays. Solid defense, plus speed, great in the clubhouse, and CHEAP.
Posted by: Burtis | March 29, 2008 at 01:02 PM
I dont get it, the Angels sign players and give up high draft picks. Then when they have an asset like Haynes, instead of trading him they release him. Couldn't they even get a low A arm for him?
Posted by: BK | March 29, 2008 at 01:30 PM
"I dont get it, the Angels sign players and give up high draft picks. Then when they have an asset like Haynes, instead of trading him they release him. Couldn't they even get a low A arm for him?"
I agree maybe Tim or Cork Gaines could write a post about this, because it has happened to too many valuable players (i.e. Reed Johnson) to not have some sort of rhyme or reason to it.
Posted by: CubFanRaysaddict | March 29, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Because most teams have realized that the jobs that most of these guys do (Haynes, Johnson, etc.) can already be done by guys they have in AAA. No point to giving up a young guy if you can just have a different young guy do the same job for cheaper.
Posted by: scribbletone | March 29, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Scribbles correct on the "why didnt we get anyone for him" front. Who is going to trade anything to you when they probably have 1 or 2 guys in the same boat themselves? And since multiple guys like this can be had for free around this time, well then any team would actually be foolish to trade for such a player. The Angels can afford to keep him on the roster to start the season, so they don’t have a choice but to let him be one of the many guys who is available to anyone willing to give up the spot. Besides, they were probably thinking he would clear waivers and they could stash him in the minors, who would have anticipated someone making a spot for him really?
On Haynes himself, it isnt a risk because it didnt cost anything but a roster spot, but it doesnt mean it provide anything either. Haynes will just be there. He will be a D replacement from time to time, and maybe get some ABs. He doesnt have the ability to hit really, so there is no upside there. His speed is there, but his basestealing smarts are questionable at best (less than 70% consistently). He is what he is, roster filler. For each possible plus he brings, there are plenty of negatives and because of that we have to just kinda say ***yawn***
Posted by: darkstar1661 | March 29, 2008 at 05:42 PM
"This is this 2008's version of Josh Wilson for the Rays. Another retread that no one else wants. Hey, why try to improve your team when you can choose the inexpensive way out? It's called the "Rays' Way!"
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who would you reccommend for the role of Jonny Gomes's late inning defensive replacement / pinch runner?
Posted by: wihargo | March 30, 2008 at 12:07 AM
"who would you reccommend for the role of Jonny Gomes's late inning defensive replacement / pinch runner? "
Ricky Henderson would have been a much more fun choice! He seems to still want to play as each year he tries to hook up with a independent team; and he always has more upside at the plate even if he is over 50... :)
Posted by: darkstar1661 | March 30, 2008 at 01:14 AM