Cubs, Sox Still Like Crisp

The Cubs need to do SOMETHING. ANYTHING. These two first games have been horrible.

Get Crisp. Call back MacPhail. Give him what he wants for Roberts unless it's a major part of our current MLB roster. Do it before the season is lost.

I hate to whine about the umpires, but did anyone see today's game? It's hard to hit a ball when the blind HP umpire is calling strikes on the Cubs that are a foot outside. Look at their hit chart: 95% of their hits were to right field, and most of their outs were to right field, especially towards the end of the game.

Does anyone monitor these guys? Some of them are too old and are blind as a bat.

"...why Crisp would solve our 'problems'..."

I don't know that there's an answer to that -- from either a Cubs or Sox standpoint.

Cubs lost today from making they're own mistakes though. Not hitting cut off men and throwing the ball when they shouldn't have set up about 4 or 5 of the extra Brewer runs

what would the A's give for coco. NOT DENORFIA

Yeah you have to admit that the calls were definately beneficial to Milwaukee today.

But the fact is that the Cubs don't need Coco Crisp. He offers great defense and a mediocre bat with good speed. Guess what Felix Pie offers? How about great defense, a mediocre bat, and.. good speed. The differences between the two are almost negligible, outside of their salaries.

If the Cubs really want to make a difference with their team, then they need to go out get one of three things: Brian Roberts, a legit middle of the rotation starter to take either Marquis' or Dempster's spot in the rotation, or a nearly impossible to acquire elite shortstop.

I know its only two games, and my statement really isn't based off of those games, but if this team is a couple games down in mid-May, then I think that Hendry has to fork up a legitimate offer for Roberts, something like Gallagher, Veal, Colvin and Cedeno. This team is too potentially good to waste because of a decent top prospect like Colvin.

I have to think Pie would see a lot more pitches to hit if he was hitting 7th in front of Soto. Hitting him 8th was where he looked the worst last season...someone better with stats than me should post his 2 hole vs 8th averages.

"then I think that Hendry has to fork up a legitimate offer for Roberts, something like Gallagher, Veal, Colvin and Cedeno. "

LMAO!!! Your kidding me right? It was this kind of offer in the first place that made this deal go nowhere fast. That is not gonna get you Roberts. Its only been 2 games, but if the cubs are struggling at the leadoff spot by mid-May, you can rest assured that MacPhail is gonna ask for everything but the kitchen sink, and why shouldnt he? Someone else on the 25-man ( and uh no they are not going to take Marquis) in addition to Cedeno will have to be in that deal, take it to the bank. The cubs also better hope that another team doesnt get involved and a bidding war takes place. If that happens, who knows how long it could be before a deal takes place. Again let me reiterate, its only been 2 games.

"LMAO!!! Your kidding me right? It was this kind of offer in the first place that made this deal go nowhere fast."

Uhh Tyler Colvin was assuredly never included in an offer. Gallagher, Veal and Colvin have all been top 100 prospects at some point, with Gallagher and Colvin being top 100's this year and Veal last year. Cedeno still has potential to be a solid starter and is a decent stopgap. To laugh at such an offer makes you look like a dumbass. If MacPhail is dumb enough to turn down an offer with three legit quality prospects and a solid stopgap replacement, then he's as big a moron as you are.

"you can rest assured that MacPhail is gonna ask for everything but the kitchen sink, and why shouldnt he?"
"The cubs also better hope that another team doesnt get involved and a bidding war takes place.

Because the Cubs will be offering FAR more than anyone else. What makes you think that any other team will want him as much as the Cubs? I've gone over this probably a hundred times, but there are NO teams that are legitimate suitors for Roberts. No teams have big holes at second. The Rockies or Mariners could get into it, but I'd find it hard to believe they'd offer more than Gallagher, Veal, Colvin and Cedeno. That'd be a massive haul for a player of Roberts' caliber. You can say, oh well what if there is an injury, but all of the contenders have guys at second that are locked in there long term, and will be in no position to offer up a bunch of quality prospects for a stopgap. Really at this point MacPhail doesn't have as much leverage as you think.

If he keeps Roberts, then the Orioles continue to suck huge balls, and Roberts continues to be mildly pissed off because nobody likes to lose. The Orioles get zero benefits from holding onto him. Holding onto him gives them 67 wins instead of 64 wins. In fact you should want to move him so your team sucks more and you get a better draft pick to build for the future. You'd be delusional to think that the Orioles can contend soon.

Pie has nothing left to prove in the minors. He is just as good right now as Crisp. Trading for him would make no sense at all.

And yes, the worst thing you could do to Pie is keep bringing him up and sending him down...let the kid play.

By the way, for anyone judging a team's season on two games...come on. You might as well go by their spring training records...

Yeah, I bet the Cubs are interested in Coco Crisp... I bet they're also interested in just about every other CF who isn't Felix Pie... Why wouldn't they trade him again? Ryan Theriot and Mark De Rosa aren't exactly the most threatening middle-infield I've ever seen either... Ryan Dumpster is the number 3 starter now? No wonder the boo birds were out on opening day.

Cubs fans should be ashamed... giving Wood an ovation and then booing minutes later... pathetic. I also love how Soriano is booed after a K until he crosses paths with Lee and then it seems like a coordinated switch back to cheers. Is this what Cubs fans do instead of the wave now, choreographed booing?

I still don't get why the Braves are not interested in Crisp. Crisp could match Kotsay's production with the bat and would a huge upgrade defensively. Schaefer is still raw and will not be ready until next year at the earliest and Gorky is behind him. Unless the plan is to put Lillibridge at 2b and Kelly Johnson in center I don't understand why they are not mentioned. That kind of shift would put two players at positions that they have hardly played.

The Cubs will get crowned if they go out and improve their back-end starters.

As is, they're like the Indians last year...without the amazing table-setter that is Sizemore.

They are cheering the player, booing the permformance. Who cares? he sucked...his performance was worth booing. Even if I wouldn't have, I have no problem with them booing a crap performance. If you don't want to be booed, pitch like a major leaguer.

The notion that the pale hose need Coco is absurd. With Jerry Owens (now injured), Brian Anderson and Alexi playing well, I can't think of a good reason to acquire him, other than to needlessly blow payroll that is.
Nick Cafardo clearly didn't feel like submitting an actual rumor. Is his "major league source familiar with both teams" a receptionist?