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Heyman On the Rockies and Holliday
The idea of the Rockies trading Matt Holliday this summer is not a new one. Ken Rosenthal speculated on the possibility two weeks ago. Today, Jon Heyman goes a little deeper. While he feels trading Holliday is certainly possible, there are at least a couple of executives who think it is unlikely. To sum up:
- The Rockies are tied for the worst record in baseball and several executives are now wondering if they will be willing to trade Garrett Atkins and/or Holliday.
- Willy Taveras and Brian Fuentes will almost certainly be made available.
- One GM thinks that last year's mid-season turnaround may make Dan O'Dowd less likely to pull the trigger on a trade.
- One exec said that the Rockies will have a tough time matching the deals that the Indians received for Bartolo Colon in '03 and the Rangers received for Mark Teixera last year, as those were highly specialized situations.
Cork Gaines writes for Rays Index and can be reached here.
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The Colon deal killed the Expos/Nats future. Imagine Washington with 3B R. Zimmerman, CF G. Sizemore, 2B B. Phillips and SP Cliff Lee.
I guess only Omar would give up that haul for half a season of Colon.
Posted by: XD23 | May 30, 2008 at 01:26 PM
everything killed the expos, its seemed to me that at one point or the other the expos had the best players in the game. vlad, colon, martinez, cabrera when he was good, i mean that team really had the worst decision making in the history of baseball with some of the best players to come around in awhile
Posted by: 04Forever | May 30, 2008 at 01:48 PM
Yeah, but no one in the Expos organization was going to be around to enjoy that bounty.
But if we're going to 20/20 fantasize, how about the Bronfmans use some of the wealth they lost in the 1990s and 00s instead to continue the ownership of the team and build a privately funded downtown ballpark.
Big contract for Vlad, keep Bay, Martinez, the 1994 team etc etc
Posted by: wihargo | May 30, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Any rumors or speculations as to where Holliday would maybe go? Do you think the Cubs would be a suitor or no?
Posted by: bigcuban | May 30, 2008 at 02:14 PM
"Big contract for Vlad, keep Bay, Martinez, the 1994 team etc etc"
...You can put together quite the lineup with players they developed for other teams in the late 80s/ early 90s alone...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | May 30, 2008 at 02:40 PM
I question whether the Rockies will really trade Fuentes. He'll probably achieve Type A status this offseason, meaning that if the Rockies hold onto him they will get a 1st round pick in 2009 (or supplemental picks). So a team trading for Fuentes will need to give the Rockies the equivalent of a couple months of Fuentes, plus a couple draft picks (though they will subsequently pick up some draft picks if they let him leave). Its just an awful lot to give up for 2-4 months of a reliever. Someone like Marte would probably be much cheaper than Fuentes.
Posted by: mymrbig | May 30, 2008 at 02:44 PM
To me, the biggest thing keeping Holliday in Denver (other than his contract) is that despite the fact he is elite at home (.363/.426/.664), he is just above-average on the road (.274/.336/.444).
I'd never trade for Holliday considering what I can only imagine the Rocks would want in return. You'd have to pay for Manny Ramirez or Carlos Lee production and get Jose Guillen type numbers instead.
Posted by: Seal Clubbers | May 30, 2008 at 03:24 PM
"cabrera when he was good"
Um, Cabrera's best season came last year, with the Angels.
"i mean that team really had the worst decision making in the history of baseball with some of the best players to come around in awhile"
It is not as if they had any choice. They were under orders to break that team up.
Posted by: AA | May 30, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Holliday to the Cubs???
Posted by: uww1 | May 30, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Holliday to the Rays for Wade Davis and Jake McGee. Rays rotation next year: 1. Kazmir 2. Shields 3. Garza
4. Jackson 5. Price. Lineup: 1. Iwamura/2b 2. Crawford/lf. 3. Holliday/rf/dh 4. Pena/1b 5. Upton/cf 6. Evan Longoria/3b 7. Floyd/Gomes at rf/dh 8. Navarrow/c 9. Brignac/Bartlett at ss.
Posted by: Joe | May 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Hollidays home/road splits are dramatic enough that’s its hard for me to look at a random lineup like than and think it’s a good idea. I mean, I know he has to go somewhere, and I know he could actually do really well wherever he ends up ~ but it still sticks out in the mind…
…You also have to wonder if other teams don’t lower the offer quite a bit because of said splits. I mean, it wouldn’t be a very bright team if random fans see possible problems they don’t take into account… Then, if they do offer a lower bounty because of those splits, its probably unlikely he gets moved anyway.
Posted by: darkstar1661 | May 31, 2008 at 01:35 AM
Seriously, how does Jon Heyman have a job? The Colon trade was in 2002, it's a minor fact but still you'd think the guy would at least fact check. As for Holliday I don't see why Colorado would trade him, Atkins yes (with Stewart and/or Baker to replace him) but you have Holliday for next year as well, if you are tanking at this point next year then look into to dealing him, if he puts up MVP like numbers again his value will still be high.
Posted by: grimace455 | May 31, 2008 at 04:41 AM