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By Tim Dierkes [May 13, 2008 at 9:10am CST]
Ken Rosenthal has a new column up. I put the Griffey info in a separate post; let's discuss the rest.
- Rosenthal suggests that Brad Lidge would be harder to replace than Pat Burrell, and for that reason the Phillies will make a bigger effort to re-sign him. I imagine Phillies fans would prefer that course of action. The problem? The Phillies have little chance of offering four years, according to Jayson Stark.
- The Rangers will face a delicate situation in coming years: moving Michael Young to a different position. The chain reaction could make Hank Blalock available. Blalock has a club option for '09 at $6.2MM.
- Aside from Rick Porcello replacing Kenny Rogers at some point, the questionable Detroit rotation is set and signed through 2010.
- One scout seems to think Daniel Cabrera has turned the corner and shouldn't be traded. He'll become a free agent after the 2010 season and earns $2.875MM this year.
- Though it might be seen as a desperation move, the Tigers don't have much to lose by signing Barry Bonds. Gary Sheffield endorsed it.
- Rosenthal says the Rays and Jays are teams with "possible interest" in Jim Edmonds but are likely to pass. That leaves the Cubs.
- Will Jason Giambi find a job next year after the Yankees decline his option? He plans to try.
- The Red Sox asked about Mark Loretta during Spring Training as "infield insurance." Rosenthal suggests the Sox consider Omar Vizquel, a defensive upgrade over Julio Lugo.
I'm not sure that trading D-Cab now makes a lot of sense and I would rather the O's keep him. I don't know how much he could fetch, but given his history of control problems I cannot imagine any GM willing to give up a ton to get him; especially because trading for him means taking him out from under Rick Kranitz tutelage. On the other hand, if he has turned the corner with his new pitch-to-contact approach then he is exactly the type of pitcher the O's need: young (26) and under control for 2 more years.
Posted by: mmille32 | May 13, 2008 at 09:22 AM
For the life of me I can't figure out why the Cubs would be interested in Edmonds. Sure they are looking for a left-handed outfield bat but if they aren't satisfied with Pies offense why would they want Edmonds offense? It's pretty clear at this point that he's done. Everything you hear about him is lost a step this or slow bat speed that... doesn't sound like a guy who is just struggling, sounds like a guy who can't really play anymore. The Cubs need to avoid him.
Posted by: pageian | May 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM
If the worst offense in the major leagues (Padres) doesn't have a place for Edmonds why would the best offense (Cubs) need him?
Posted by: pageian | May 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Michael Young started as a 2B and only moved to SS when Texas trade Rodriguez. It shouldn't be all that hard to move him back; it's obviously necessary at this point and should have already happened. I think the main question is, do they find a bridge to Andrus or let Young's range deteriorate for another year+ until Elvis arrives.
Wish we had more info about the "one scout" who thinks Cabrera's turned a corner. After the debate we had in the comments the other day, I've become quite interested in his case.
Maybe the Cubbies want Edmonds to mentor Pie or something. Maybe they want a "veteran presence" in the outfield. Who knows.
Seems to me that the Sox have their own "infield insurance" now in Little Jed. I'm not even sure Vizquel is a defensive upgrade at this point in his career; he's almost certain to be worse at the plate than Lugo, which is saying something.
Posted by: asm | May 13, 2008 at 11:14 AM
"Maybe the Cubbies want Edmonds to mentor Pie or something. Maybe they want a "veteran presence" in the outfield. Who knows."
No. Pie would be sent down in they sign Edmonds. If this doesn't work out, they can still just release him in a month and get someone like Ibanez at the deadline, or just bring Pie right back after getting more at bats. I don't see the harm in this at all.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | May 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM
a defensive upgrade over Julio Lugo? That's like saying "a guy who's on the DL a little less than Mike Hampton"... practically anyone fits the bill. At this point Sox owner John Henry could pick up a glove and cover short better than Lugo.
Posted by: metafrantic | May 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM
"At this point Sox owner John Henry could pick up a glove and cover short better than Lugo."
Right -- but I'm not convinced Magowan doesn't have more range than Vizquel too. Those are two pretty bad options.
Posted by: asm | May 13, 2008 at 02:25 PM
I've been an unabashed Cabrera guy for a very long time but I'm not sure what that scout is seeing. He's had two good K/BB games in a row but those came against 2 of the 3 bottom teams in the AL in BB/G.
I want to be sold, but I'm not.
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | May 13, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Jayson Stark fails to take into consideration that Pat Gillick will not be doing the negotiating with regards to signing a closer.
Posted by: Justin | May 13, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Gillick may not be doing the negotiations but the 3v4 deal that Stark has mentioned is just as much an organizational philosophy as it is Gillick’s. They are a team that is very close to the limit that their owners are willing to spend, some say past it. They are just getting over the effects of a bunch of long, player friendly contracts(burrell, thome, etc.) and whether it’s Amaro, Gillick, Cashman????, doing the deal they are going to be leery of over-extending themselves.
It may be in Lidge’s interest to get a deal done while his value is peaking. He’s a bad month or two away from a 1 year Gagne deal or worse. If he gets the hiccups and deals with it the way he did in Houston all this talk about Wagner money is going to dry up.
Posted by: benjoua | May 13, 2008 at 07:49 PM
asm but if you move Young back to 2B, where does Kinsler go? Could Young play CF? Trade him to the Mets, they can use a 2B who has knees.
Posted by: nrmax88 | May 13, 2008 at 10:50 PM
"No. Pie would be sent down in they sign Edmonds. If this doesn't work out, they can still just release him in a month and get someone like Ibanez at the deadline, or just bring Pie right back after getting more at bats. I don't see the harm in this at all."
I feel that way too. Plus there is less ground to cover in CF at Wrigley and less real estate to hit a ball over for a home run. Maybe he is done, maybe he can get a jolt batting in the middle of a sick lineup. No downside.
Posted by: nrmax88 | May 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Without any stats to back me up -- just my observations and the impression I've gotten from experts -- I don't think either Young or Kinsler could play CF. Rosenthal has Young to 3B and Blalock to 1B or corner OF, or Young to 2B and Kinsler to LF. In my opinion any of those schemes are sub-optimal. Kinsler's offense is superb for 2B but not great for a corner OF; Blalock is having a hard enough time hitting well enough to justify playing third (not that the Rangers right now have anybody that needs to be given the first-base job either, unless Shelton goes all Carlos Pena (can't rule it out)), much less 1B.
My personal preference is what you mention -- trading Young for prospects to a contender who needs a 2B. The Mets would be #1 on that list, I think. Yankees, depending on how Cano's defense develops. Kenny Williams could really torpedo the White Sox' future by making that move if Chicago's still in it in July, I like the chances of that happening. Dodgers could be an intriguing possibility. Cubs. Young is signed for another 4 years, so next offseason could be an ideal time for them to be shopping him, and they could take advantage of a pretty weak market for middle infielders and a lot of contending teams having guys leaving: Tigers, Dodgers again, Mets again, Diamondbacks in particular might make a big impact by letting Hudson walk and making a move for Young.
Of course, the question remains, if they move or trade Young before Andrus is really ready to stick in the bigs, who plays SS until then? Myself, I'd stick anyone there for half a year or so in the interest of rebuilding; you know, go out and get a Cesar Izturis just to man the post for a few months, but you never know if a major league team is willing to do something that bold.
Posted by: asm | May 13, 2008 at 11:32 PM
DC's pitching today against Boston...a team he's had a tough time with in the past. Should be interesting to see if he can keep up his recent run of success. I want to believe.
As for trading him, it really doesn't make a lot of sense. What could the O's get? Everyone knows how talented the guy is, but they're also fully aware of his struggles. Couldn't see getting a return worth the risk of losing a potential frontline starter who has finally turned it around, is still pretty young, and is under team control for the next two years.
Plus...God help me...I think I buy the 'turn the corner' theory. DC's been a tease for years, but he just...seems different this year. On and off the field. He's more mature and poised...and obviously his control has been markedly better.
Again, today should be an interesting test. Not saying it's make or break either way, but I'll probably be driving the bandwagon if he puts up another performance like he did against the Royals. I'm such a sucker for my O's.
Posted by: milehigh78 | May 14, 2008 at 01:16 PM
I think to me the simple difference can be seen in how much he misses by this year vs. last. Last year when he missed he missed the zone by anywhere from 6-18 inches. This year when he misses, he is missing by 3-6 inches. Last year when he threw his breaking ball it would sometimes hit the dirt nowhere close. This year it just isn't missing much.
Today I think most batters feel like the way to get him is take, take, take and run him into a bad inning. But I think we will start seeing hitters swing more in a month or so and sitting on fastballs. DCab will have to make the adjustment eventually to rely more on his breaking ball. Though the new sinker is helping out a great deal and might curtail any impact of that midseason adjustment. He throws 2 two-seamers. One that has lateral tilt and one that is a sinker. Both go in the 88-94 mph range.
Because he throws in the 95 mph range with ease, he's one of those rare pitchers who might not need a conventional changeup because he can use a 88 mph fastball as his change of pace.
Posted by: basemonkey | May 15, 2008 at 10:33 AM