Cubs Searching For Lefthanded Bat

Since everyone else has all these stupid trade...Let me try.

Lee, Pie, Vitters, Samardzija, Ceda, Cash
For
Indians Grady Sizemore

You guys realize that Adam Dunn has played a total of 21 games at 1B the last 3 seasons, right? This doesn't slightly concern anyone?

Red Sox Dynasty - I hope you were joking, dude.

Am I mistaken, or doesn't Randy Winn also play center? Wouldn't it be him in CF and Fuku in RF and not vice versa?

btw
lee for winn sounds good for both teams
its not that lee is damaged goods but the problem with the current cubs lineup is lack of flexibility
winn adds that with switch-hitting and ability to play all outfield spots and hit 1-2 and 3
but a bonus might be in the locker-room. i've read that winn is easy-going, humourous, an attitude this playoff-clenching group could use

"Am I mistaken, or doesn't Randy Winn also play center? Wouldn't it be him in CF and Fuku in RF and not vice versa?"

Winn's value would be at its peak if someone would let him play center. The Giants find it necessary to have 4 CF's for three OF spots. I think Giants fans can vouch for me that Rowland looked UGLY in center this year. His routes to balls...wtf??

Adam Dunn...what a joke. He either strikeout or hits a homerun, and his defense in the outfield is just par. You need a good defensive player at first base, let alone you'ld probably have to teach him how to play the position. Why not trade D-Lee to Seattle for Ichiro, and than go after Tex, there you have your leadoff hitter, and you go after a guy who is a switch-hitting firstbase gold glover. I mean things weren't looking good for Ichiro in Seattle after some of his teammates pretty much threatened to "beat him up".

Its almost a sure thing that the cubs re-sign Dempster. Hendry has all but said that.

I am hoping the Dodgers resign Manny, bc that can maybe stop them from re-signing Furcal. Hendry would be all over that. Then sign Abreu or even trade for David DeJesus or Coco Crisp.

I dont see the cubs going after Peavy or CC for that matter. What are they going to do in the playoffs next year with 5 guys that expect to start game 1???

"Why not trade D-Lee to Seattle for Ichiro"

Why would the Ms possibly want to make that trade? Do you even think about the other team's point of view? What the Ms need is young players either proven or unproven with a high ceiling! Not a 30+ year old 1st baseman with a huge contract and on the decline of his career. I mean, Come On... Think about it. Its gonna take far more to get Ichiro than D. Lee.

Cubs need a lefty batter and a lead off BADLY. Kill two birds with one stone Brian Roberts. I know people are going to say that McPhail doesn't want to trade him. He is the face of the franchise..... Well if the deal is good ebough for one- year of Roberts they will trade him. I would do a deal like this.
Casey McGehee
Ronny Cedeno/ Tony Thomas
Donnie Veal
another guy
and cash
what do you think.

Aduncaroo,
I love to get Vernon Wells, but a Brian Roberts is more likely. And also, why not McGehee was 90+ RBI man in the minors this year. He has also shown he's not a butcher in the field either. Even though he's 26 he has to have trade value to him and since Melvin Mora is like 36 McGehee could take his spot.

And yes we won 97 games last year, but were 0-8 the last 8 post season games we have played.

I kinda like the idea of trading Lee for Winn then signing Dunn for 1B. I also like the idea of trading Soriano and Pie to Toronto for Wells. I think I would swap Theriot and Winn in that lineup, though.

SS Theriot
LF Winn (SH)
2B DeRosa
1B Dunn (LH)
3B ARam
CF Wells
C Soto
RF Fuki/Johnson (LH/RH)

With this lineup, you probably have the best OF defense in the game. DeRosa is a good defensive 2B, Theriot is average at SS, perhaps a slight bit above. ARam is capable of being a very good defensive 3B, but he has his moments of doubt. Soto is excellent behind the plate. Dunn would be the major question mark, but he'd be at a position where having a golden glove is a frill more than a necessity. Offensively, there are few holes... and it would hold OBP's of .387, .363, .376, .386, .380, .343, .364, and .359/.358 from this past year. 2-7 you end up with HR/Slug/RBI numbers of 10/.426/64, 21/.481/87, 40/.513/100, 27/.518/111, 20/.496/78 (108 games), and 23/.504/86.

Cubfan, have you so much as looked at Dunn's stats? "He either hits a homerun or strikesout." I guess you don't realize that Dunn carries an OBP around .380 every year, despite hitting below .250. That real close to getting on base 2 out of every 5 times he steps up to the plate. This past year, he struck 164 times, but walked 122 times. At Wrigley, Dunn has career numbers of .286 BA, .419 OBP, .664 Slug, 1.083 OPS, 23 HR in 217 AB and 60 games. He's good for 40 HR and 100 RBI, and that's with little protection behind and little getting on base ahead of him. Put him in a lineup with good OBP guys ahead of him and ARam or Soto protecting him, and I think those numbers rise quite a lot. As far as needing a good defensive 1B, how did the Brewers, Phillies, and WhiteSox make it to the playoffs with below-average (if not outright bad) defensive 1B's? Who also says that Dunn can't be a decent defensive 1B? Remember, 1B used to be the position where guys who couldn't field would be placed to keep their bat in the lineup before the AL came up with the DH idea.

Adun, the NL Central isn't going to get much worse than it was this year (if at all). The Cardinals were good this year, and will be better next year. The Astros made big strides in the second half this year, and will probably continue that next year. The Reds, I think, are just a year or so from being a contender... and they could end up ahead of schedule with some solid performances from their young core next year. While the Brewers will most likely lose both Sheets and Sabathia, they will have Gallardo back for the entire season next year. Parra had a pretty good year for a rookie this year and will improve. Bush is a decent pitcher and a good back-of-the-rotation type. If they can keep Sheets, the Brewers will still be a serious threat, especially if they can bulk up their bullpen somehow. Plus, if they hire Brenly to manage the squad... that's a sharp rise to their stock as well.

As far as having the best offense in the NL this year, how good did that do us when we managed all of 6 runs in 3 games in the NLDS?

"Triples,
Im not crazy about Winn. Hes 34, makes good money, around 9mm or so and only hit 10hrs. Hes a switch hitter but isnt really suited to leadoff...Im not sure hes worth giving up Lee for. Fred Lewis is 6 years younger and put up similar numbers to Winn, he may be acceptable.

Posted by: clarknaddison"

1) Derek Lee is 33 years old, Randy Winn is 34
2) You claim Randy Winn only hit 10 HR's, well Lee only hit 20 (for a 1B).
3) Randy Winn $9mil a year, Derek Lee $13mil a year.

How you think Derek Lee should in return give you a 27 year old OF making practically league min?

Adun:

"The Cardinals were good this year, and will be better next year."

Why? I don't expect more career years from Lohse, Ludwick, and Shumaker.
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A fully healthy Pujols after working on the shoulder and elbow this offseason. Molina continuing to improve with the bat. Where Ludwick may slip, Glaus may step up. If Ankiel can stay healthy all year long, that would be a boost as well. They do need middle IF's, and they just might end up in the bidding for Furcal. They may even find a way to bring Renteria back.

Lohse and Wellemeyer may have been flukes. However, both are still fairly young and have one of the elite pitching coaches working with them. There's also a decent shot at Carpenter returning healthy next year, and maybe back to his Cy Young form from just a couple of years ago.

You have a point about Dust-for-brains and the Reds. He has as much of a chance at destroying the young core as he does at building it up... maybe more so. I kind of expect news of arm injuries with Volquez and Cueto within the next couple of years. That type of stuff follows Dust-for-brains around (Schmidt, Ortiz, Estes, Prior, Wood, Clement), especially after racking up incredible amounts of innings for a couple of years in a row.

If the Brewers can't find a way to either keep or replace Sabathia or Sheets, they won't be much of a threat. I don't fall into the belief that Sheets is as fragile as he once was. He missed very little time the past two years, and had only minor issues.

Astros, Pence is only going to get better. Berkman, Wigginton, and Lee makes up a solid, veteran core. Tejada may be the wildcard here. They do need production out of CF. Oswalt is a true ace, and if Rodriguez can get healthy, he could turn out to be something worthwhile. They do need more pitching, and could end up in the Sheets/Burnett sweepstakes. They may even be able to pull off a miracle deal to land Peavy.

Here's my pipe dream. It most likely wouldn't go through, but for a couple of teams looking to make a splash and shake up their rosters, it just might.

To the Cubs:
Beltran and J Reyes

To the Mets:
Soriano, Pie, Cedeno, K. Hill, Marquis, Cotts, and another pitching prospect

Cubs get two switch hitters with power and speed (addresses teams needs in OF, for LH batting, and more athleticism) and the Mets get Soriano as a big name draw, help with pitching, and prospects to help with catching and middle infield. I'd also see them going after Furcal.

That leaves the cubs to bring back Dempster and Wood (if possible) and look like this:

1-Reyes ss switch
2-Theriot 2B right
3-Beltran CF switch
4-Ramirez 3B right
5-Lee 1B right
6-DeRosa LF right
7-Soto C right
8-Fuku RF left
9-pitcher

Rotation:
Zambrano/Harden/Dempster/Lilly/Marshall-Hill

Pen:
Gaudin/Guzman/Samardzija/Leiber/Marmol/Wood

Bench:
Fontenot, Hoffpauier, Blanco, Johnson, Fuld-Edmonds-McGehee

scarfacedcubsfan,

If you want Reyes, you better start with an offer of Soto, Marmol, and Vitters. Minaya probably still hangs up on you, even then.

Winn just doesn't seem like a good fit and neither does Dunn. I would rather trade Lee to Seattle for Ichiro and go after Teixeira. I mean with our infield, especially Ramierez's throwing arm over at third you need a very good defensive player to handle those bad throws. My lineup would be:
RF Ichiro
CF Fukudome/Johnson
LF Soriano
1st Teixeira
3rd Ramierez
C Soto
2nd DeRosa
SS Theriot
(swapping CF and SS if need be, also the 3-5 hitters)

The Padres are practically begging for someone to take Peavy, and half of their canidates hav already backed away. So put a Pie, Cedeno (or other) package together for Peavy. Then a Minor leaguers package together for Winn.

Bump Soriano down and Mix and match Riot, Winn, Johnson, DeRo in the #1 - #2 holes.

Small tweak to the best offense in the NL and the best 1-5 in the Majors.

Seattle doesn't want Lee...and they certainly aren't going to give up Ichiro for him.

Brenly will take the Brewers job in 1 second if they offer it to him, with or without CC.

"So put a Pie, Cedeno (or other) package together for Peavy"

That won't ever happen. I understand what you are saying...and why not, right? But they aren't going to take that. I still think the Braves will offer Hanson.