More Peavy: Yankees, Angels, Cubs

Just more proof that early info about trades and signings is almost irrelevant until proven otherwise.

so much for hell never go to NY. i guess i have to take back the wussy comment i made a while back. too bad he still wont go to the yanks, they just dont have to will to move their players. if they even have them.

The Braves better make a trade ASAP otherwise he will be a Yankee.

Did the Padres GM state or was it posted on this site that the Yanks might have the rght stuff for Peavy?

please dont sign with the yankees, please dont sign with the yankees. go give your 5 innings elsewhere.

So many Yankees haters. You guys get hurt for everthing.

"go give your 5 innings elsewhere."

thats a good point no one wants to mention. at most Peavy goes 7 innings.

Ok if the Yankees miss out on CC Sabathia for whatever reason ( i still think he is most definitely a Yankee) but if they somehow miss out on him they will push hard for Peavy... trading to acquire Peavy while still signing CC will only cost the Yankees prospects (please not Ajax but to be able to acquire a talent like Jake has is exciting) and it will enable them to still have money to sign another A type free agent hitter (Teixeira or possibly Manny) while possibly not losing draft picks if Pudge, Abreu, and Marte walk ( 5 picks right there) compared to the 4 they would lose if they signed two type A's...

I think Peavy will stay in the NL. NY may have been mentioned to raise the price, and as Casanova Wong stated NY and SD are two WAY diffent places. The Angels don't need SP help, but they could surprise everyone. The Angels have the pieces, but I think the Braves are the best fit for Peavy.

I think peany could be had for Hughes, Kennedy and Melky.
Really that's just as good as any of the braves offers that have been thrown around. That's the two staters and the outfielder they want. Hughes may end up being better then peavy and kennedy would tear it up in petco. Melky is really the only serious question mark here. I'm sure Jackson could take that spot but I'm sure the yankees will do everything they can to not give him up. Maybe the yankees throw in one more reliever like Sanchez. That's a pretty nice haul for the padres and the yankees rotation becomes a little less suspect.

there were quite a few of those.

Imagine if the Yankees can trade for Peavy, and sign Sabathia?

Peavy
Sabathia
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte/etc.

That would be epic

JRD- joba was only a full time starter with no pitch limits for about a month before he got hurt that night in arlington. He Started 5 games and went 6,6,6, 6 2/3 and 7 innings.

A much more likely scenario is him to the Angels. With Vlad Guerrero nearing the end of his career, the Angels seem like they're willing to make one last stand and go for it all.

Look for them to resign Tex and I think a package of Nick Adenhart, who has taken a step back this season, and Brandon Wood should entice the Padres. It gives them young, MLB ready pitching and also an MLB ready third basemen whose power will translate to Petco. The Angels would probably have to throw in someone like a Nick Green or another fungible fifth starter.

The Angels would then line up a rotation of:

Peavy
Lackey
Santana
Saunders
Weaver
*Escobar

usctrojans,

Two things wrong with that proposal. 1. Not good enough. 2. They want pitching, outfield, and middle infield, not third baseman.

JRD- i thought it was more or a sarcastic ? than an actual inquisitive one. My bad, usually when sox,or yanks are involved theres never any honest questions its always passive aggressive jabs at each other.

If I'm Kevin Towers I Peavy doesn't go to the Angels without Brandon Wood coming back to play SS. Towers said this morning on the radio here in SD that one way or another Khalil probably would not be back next year.

lol people make me laugh saying that the Yankees dont have enough to get Peavy.... Cano and Hughes would be arguably better then what anyone else is offering... If Cash is serious about getting Peavy I think he becomes a Yankee, unless another team coughs up much more....

Felix Pie and Ronny Cedeno? Really? That's what you are going to have published under your name? Really? "A Source" said it but it could also not be confirmed Mr. Van Dyck? Really? You got a job reporting actual baseball news and that's what you are going to roll with... REALLY?

I'm calling it now... Tony "Ninja" Reagins is going to work his fast food magic, and get a deal done for Peavy.

Erick Aybar, Sean Rodriguez, Nick Adenhart and Reggie Willits for Peavy.

More Felix Pie garbage?

A Felix Pie package wouldn't even be enough to fetch Jake Westbrook, let alone Jake Peavy.

Aybar, Rodriguez, Adenhart, Willits... I don't see that working out. The Padres still have Khalil Greene to deal with too.

Brandon Wood, Sean Rodriguez, and Nick Adenhart are all nice starts though. Has Reagins said anything about Jose Arredondo being untouchable?

As i yankee fan, this made my night for a second, until i realized brian cashman's man crush he has for phil hughes who would be a MUST for any trade to happen. Having said that i think a trade of, hughes, ian kennedy, melky, and maybe a B or C prospect would get a deal done, but cashman doesn't have the balls or common sense to make that trade, that i would make 10 times out of 10.

No, but Brandon Wood is pretty darn close to untouchable. They have been VERY high on him lately.

Tony Reagins has not "officially" labeled Jose Arredondo untouchable, but he has no obligations what so ever to move him.

As for the Angels going after Peavy, I do not see both Wood and Rodriguez going to San Diego, the Angels would be willing to move one of them, but not both, they enjoy having that depth in the middle infield. I think a piece people forgot about in a deal could be Macier Izturis, who can play all around the infield.

Personally, whether or not the Angels pursue Jake Peavy, I would like to see them move Macier Izturis and platoon Brandon Wood and Erick Aybar at shortstop to get Wood a full season of at bats. I think his first full year would equivilate into 20+ home runs.

Cubs must have something that the Pads have since they keep being brought up about trade talks. I really like to see what people say, they think they are the GM. EVERYBODY thinks this trade wont happen with the Cubs, yet we keep seeing them being brought into the trade talks.

HMMM

Cubs Land,

That's probably more because Peavy put the Cubs on his list of approved teams.

Peavy may want it, but if Towers doesn't, it's a moot point.

Plus, we've also seen Felix Pie suggested by writers as a centerpiece, and also seen an absurd Derrek Lee for Matt Cain swap suggested.

I'm not saying all Cubs writers and fans are morons, but the Cubs have a veteran rotation without a ton of young starting pitching, which is what Towers wants.

The trade's not impossible, but I can't see it getting done without including Soto.

You're probably hearing it because Peavy said it, and the Chicago media took the story and ran with it.

There's the other thing... a lot of Cubs fans think it's absurd when people throw out names like Marmol, Samardzija, and Vitters...

What do you honestly think it's going to take? Marshall, Pie, Cedeno, and Theriot?

Injury prone or not, Peavy's a Cy Young Winner signed WAY under market value. He'll take a lot to pry away.

"Brandon Wood isn't on the Padres radar since they have an abundance of 3B on the team now. Aybar is a strong possibility but KT wants young pitching more then anything. It'll probably cost a young starter, Jered Weaver maybe?"

Wood is a very capable SS, btw... But Aybar is, imo, better suited for Petco... He has speed, has gap power (which in that park could turn into triples very easily), is a very young and cheap option who has the ability to be an exceptional lead-off hitter and is a great fielder with unbelievable range... Here's my 2 proposals:

1. Angels Get:
Peavy
L. Rodriguez

Padres Get:
Weaver
Aybar
Willits/Bourjos/Evans
Jepsen/Bulger/O'Day

OR

2. Angels Get:
Peavy
L. Rodriguez

Padres Get:
Adenhart
Aybar
Willits/Bourjos/Evans
Jepsen/Bulger/O'Day
S. Rodriguez

Didn't the Angles once have interest in Greene? I'm assuming that was before last season...
We wouldn't want Willits since he wouldn't be under team control long. And from the Yankees not Melky since we have plenty of 4th OF types and no Cano since he is wayyy to expensive at a position we should have someone ready for half way through '09 (decker or antonelli).

Cubs Land, why do you call Peavy injury prone? I don't get why people keep saying this. He had his DL stint this year and one a couple years ago, but that's it! If you said he has a violent delivery which one day could hurt him, then yes; you are correct. But tagging him injury prone is ridiculous.

And laughing at the request for Marmol, Samardja, and Vitters doesn't make sense. I would rather have either of the Braves (Hanson, Shafer, Escobar), Yankees (Kennedy, Hughes, Ajax), or Angels (Adenhart, Wood, Rodriguez) longshot packages over the cubs longshot package. Note people that I wrote longshot packages, so need to disect them. I'm just proving that no one is laughing too much at those possible packages, but a lesser one from the cubs gets more laughs.

hahahaha good luck Pads fans. I had to deal with the Cubs fans trying to tell me for months that Sabathia was leaving for the likes of Vitters, Cedeno, and Pie. Now thanks to Van Dyck, it's your turn.

Oh and PS to the Cubs fans, offering 5 mediocre players/Busts (Hill, Marquis, Pie, Cedeno, Theriot) will not land one of the best pitchers in baseball WITH A FRIENDLY CONTRACT!!!

Any team in their right mind would turn it down and take any of the other offers with prospects that actually have high ceilings (Hanson, Hughes, Adenhart, etc.)

As I said with the C.C. deal, offer Marmol or Soto, otherwise tough luck.

IF a deal can be worked out with the Yanks, Cash would first have to see if Peavy waiving his no trade would be contingent on a new contract. I cant see giving up the farm AND having to spend $ for Peavy, who may or may not have the makeup to pitch in NY.

For whoever said melky and Kennedy have no trade value...that is incorrect. There are teams currently inquiring about Melky. His value may not be what it was last year but it
s not like a 25 year old that makes next to nothing and brings good defense cant be moved.
Kennedy is 24, had limited success in the majors and tore up AAA. There are teams where "win now" is not the mantra and who have patience with young starters. As part of a package with others, he has some value.

As far as we know the package could be something like

Pie/Cedeno/Huseby/Gonzalez/Ceda/Vitters

Huseby and Gonzalez are high risk high reward pitchers. Pie is good defensively, and he only had a VERY small sample size in the majors. Give him a break, he's 23. Ceda would take over for Hoffman. Cedeno would allow the Pads to move Greene. And Vitters could move to 2b, as was discussed when he was drafted.

The Cubs could just be Peavy's first choice whether they are the best match up or not the Pads may be trying to work out a deal based on Peavy's request. Why wouldn't they be his first choice, despite the disappointment the last 2 years in the playoffs, the Cubs are one of the best teams in the NL and most likely will be in the playoffs this season as well. The Pads and Cubs also have worked well together in the past. It sounds stupid from the ouside looking in (why wouldn't the Pads just take the best package?) but there is the human element at play.

If someone last year would have told me before the trade that the Cubs were trading Gallagher, Murton, Patterson and Donaldson for Harden & Gaudin I probably would have laughed and said no way... stranger things have happened.

#1 Angels Fan wrote:

"1. Angels Get:
Peavy
L. Rodriguez

Padres Get:
Weaver
Aybar
Willits/Bourjos/Evans
Jepsen/Bulger/O'Day"

everyone listed after Aybar is just filler. The Padres aren't looking for players that are at best going to be mediocre.

"2. Angels Get:
Peavy
L. Rodriguez

Padres Get:
Adenhart
Aybar
Willits/Bourjos/Evans
Jepsen/Bulger/O'Day
S. Rodriguez"

Again, other than adding SRod, this isn't any better than the first offer. If the Angels wanted to get a deal done, they would offer Weaver, Jordan Walden, Brandon Wood and 1-2 filler prospects of the Pads liking. 1 Solid starter, 1 high projection future starter and 1 former top prospect power hitter that can play SS.

"If someone last year would have told me before the trade that the Cubs were trading Gallagher, Murton, Patterson and Donaldson for Harden & Gaudin I probably would have laughed and said no way... "

Actually, the thread was something like "Cubs Interested in Harden", and had the first post saying "Dream on Chicagoins...". That guy looks like an idiot.

I'm not saying that Veal and Cedeno are the headliners here...thats obviously stupid. But I really do believe the Cubs can make a competitive offer...and if it gets beat, so be it, no big deal. But all the Cubs haters on here need to calm down. My offer would be:

Vitters/Pie/Marshall/Ceda/Thomas or Cedeno

Take it or leave it. If not, thats fine, we go back to looking at Dempster.

BK, you're delusional if you think that Weaver, Aybar and Green is enough to net Peavy. Not only is he signed WELL under market value, he's signed for multiple years. You're going to have to give up top prospects, and more than one.

You need to remember the Padres don't NEED to trade Peavy, they're just listening to see if it's worthwhile and to make Peavy happy. They aren't going to do anything not in their best interest.