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The Trevor Hoffman Situation

In a post on his blog, Padres exec Paul DePodesta outlines the progression of the Trevor Hoffman negotiations (and also explains why exercising Brian Giles' option was an easy call).  Tom Krasovic also provides details, including quotes from Hoffman's agent Rick Thurman.

  • Thurman believes the $4MM offer for '09 (with a club option at the same salary for '10) was insincere.  He feels the Padres never intended to sign Hoffman and calls the chances of a deal "miniscule."  Hoffman is also upset that owner John Moores did not want to meet with him.  Plus, Thurman seems annoyed that Towers contacted Hoffman directly regarding the Moores meeting.
  • On the Padres' side, CEO Sandy Alderson notes that the offer was not of the "take it or leave it" variety and it is not common let an offer sit for a prolonged period of time.  Thurman did not a make a counteroffer, and the Padres never wanted these negotiations to be public.
  • This is not a black and white situation.  While the Padres' initial offer was low, the two sides could've kept things private and met in the middle in the $5.75MM range.  I also think Moores should've been willing to meet with Hoffman, as this is not a normal player negotiation.
  • If Hoffman does leave, Thurman considers the Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Mets, Indians, Angels, and Rangers potential suitors.  Why no mention of the TigersJim Baumbach likes Hoffman for the Mets.


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I wouldn't mind Hoffman on the Mets. The only thing is he has an unfair reputation as a choker in big games (despite a good post-season ERA. Much better than Wagner). I think he'd be bashed if he blew saves. More so than K-Rod or Putz might.

He is a choker. Wagner is also a choker. They can both be chokers. If you want proof, look at the last weekend of the season in 2007 for the Padres. Gwynn, then the play-in game. He was also not good in the WS against the Yankees. He has never nailed down a big game. Yes, he's a hall of famer and a great april-august closer, but the Mets, more than any other team, need guys who are proven to also show up in September and beyond.

I like Hoffman on the Mets. I would rather sign him to a short term contract (One year with an option maybe) while we develop internally.

Hoffman has blown big games before. But there is no lock down closer on the market this year. K-Rod was nothing special this post-season and who knows what Fuentes is. Both Guys that would cost alot of money for a longer time.

i still dont believe that he wont sign with the padres. this same type thing happened last time hoffman was a free agent and he got all upset and cleaned out his locker. it doesn't look good, but i still think something could get done.

"He is a choker. Wagner is also a choker. They can both be chokers...

Yes, he's a hall of famer and a great april-august closer, but the Mets, more than any other team, need guys who are proven to also show up in September and beyond."

Once again, his September ERA is 1.81.

Pretty cool that DePodesta has a blog like that

Where is the link to Wren saying this about Francoeur?

Ive thought about Hoffman to NY before, but now it seems like a real possibility. The Mets likely won't want to throw big cash at K-Rod or Fuentes when they have issues with depth in their lineup and rotation.

If they could sign Hoffman to a deal like 1/7, and then sign a Cruz/Affeldt, they'd be set in the bullpen and could use the (primarily long term) money saved on other more pressing needs.

1.81 ERA in September, has the be the lightest 1.81 ERA i've ever seen, he's blown countless big games! Name me a huge game where he didn't blow it. Again, 2007, He blew the save in Milwaukee to force the play in game, and then blew that game. He also blew the all-star game that year. The guy might be a HOF, but he's certainly no Rivera.

get em' marlins

Hoffman makes so much sense for the Mets. Short term deal, not much money, gives you a year or two to develop some internal candidates before you go and waste money on K-Rod. Metzfan22..... Cubbyfan23 just keeps destroying your argument with numbers and facts, yet you keep arguing the same point over and over using no statistics, only your opinion. I think I lean towards the guy who provides statistical analysis with his points, not just biased opinions.

How am I biased? I'm a Mets fan, that has nothing to do with the Padres or Hoffman...lol

And all I'm saying is that I've watched a lot of baseball, and Hoffman has a history of coming up small in big spots. I provided examples of his biggest games, and he's blown them. And I'm not trying to impress you nrmax, so I could care less who you "lean towards."

Metzfan, you're really listing a very small amount of big games...he was lousy in the last 2 of 2007, but I don't think the all star game counts as a big game. It's heavily watched, but hardly a huge game. That 1.81 era takes a HUGE sample size into account, as he's had a long career. All closers will blow games, hoffman's one of the all time greats.

Exactly, Skibolton nailed it. You keep saying that Hoffman has this history of blowing huge games, yet you only bring up 3 games, 2 of which were within a week of each other, and the other was an exhibition game. Who cares what team you root for? It doesn't mean you can't be biased. You obviously, for some reason don't want Hoffman, and because of that, you are using a biased opinion built on small sample sizes of skewed stats to make your point. I don't understand how anybody could make the point that they would rather give K-Rod a 4 or 5 year deal worth 13-15 million a year if they can have Trevor Hoffman for a 1 year commitment, probably for 5 or 6 million bucks. If I could get K-Rod on a one year deal, then sign me up. But it ain't happening, and I, and a lot of others just aren't interested in investing 4 years at over 10 million a year on a closer. I would gladly sign up for K-Rod at 1 year, 18 million, and renew that contract every single year that he kept producing. But to give him 4 years off the bat, with his questionable mechanics and his declining fastball(maybe his fastball velocity decrease was a conscious choice, to locate it better, but his changeup's increase in velocity certainly was not something he did on purpose) is just asking to be killed by this contract down the line.

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