Tigers Rumors: Santiago, K-Rod, Ordonez

I still think the Braves should try and get Maggs, because Ludwick is not a proven hitter like Maggs is, and I still think no one can feel the hole in the free agent market.

I can see the Angels going for him if they lose the battle for Tex.

Tigers should try to match up on a trade with the Red Sox for Julio Lugo...

They could flip-flop Lugo/Granderson at leadoff/#9 depending on Righty/Lefty situations.

Lugo isn't a terrible fielder.

I hate Lugo and will kick in money from my own pocket if someone takes him so the Sox can move past that mistake.

I think the Tigers may want too much from the Braves since the Renteria deal didn't work out for them but since they need a reliever and a catcher how about Soriano, Flowers, Medlen and Rodgers for Maggs

I'd entertain Lugo for Willis. I doubt either enjoys another day as a successful major leaguer but I'd exchange one pile of crap for another.

the phils would have to package something around donald and happ and another prospect probably

Santiago is an adequate ML shortstop. He ranked 10th in the majors in WPA. He also had a very high OBP. Add in his glove, and the extra money needed to sign furcal is not close to worth it.

"Until atleast Moylan comes back, Soriano will be the setup guy. For that much, I hope Tigers are atleast eating about $5+ million. For the Braves to eat the whole contract, the Tigers will maybe get two lower to mid level prospects."

Actually I think that's a very fair deal for a proven power hitter. The reason it would be more is because of his high contract and age but we'd be shedding 6.5 mil with Soriano anyway.

if mags does hit the market the phils braves and reds will in on it and all offering the same package of a ss pitcher and another prospect its all going to come down to who the tigers like better.

"its all going to come down to who the tigers like better."

Because it's common for team desperate to shed payroll to dictate the terms of their salary dump.

The Tigers are trading Maggs to shed payroll, meaning others teams will have to eat the majority of the contract. Thus, it's extremely unlikely the Tigers can sit back and wait for any surefire prospect to come their way.

A shortstop, pitcher and another prospect seems to be a bit of a stretch.

If the braves want to give up escobar in the mags deal i would be happy as a phils fan.i can deal with 3 years of mags rather than 6 of escobar

The Tigers are crazy if they think they can extract any decent prospects to go along with picking up Maggs' contract.

Why give up something when you can just sign Dunn/Burrell for less money and not require anything more than a draft pick?

Tigers won't necessarily dump payroll if they can fill three holes with Maggs (that sounds wierd).

Anyway, if Ibanez leaves the M's might they consider getting Maggs to replace him in LF?

I was thinking maybe The Tigers could send Magglio and Danny Worth (maybe Rodney) for Putz/Johjima/Betancourt.

The Johjima end is what starts to make sense to me. Throw in a willingness to trade Putz and there's a nucleus of a trade there. I don't think The Tigers would give up Maggs for those two players but if something could be worked out where Betancourt comes too, it's a decent fit. The question is what else The Tigers could send to make it work.

Maggs, Worth and Larish maybe?

Maggs, Rodney, Worth and Larish?

Maggs, Worth, Fien, Larish?

if Tex doesn't work out for the angels, i could see them going after Maggs. What it will take, i am not too sure. Maybe a catcher and SP. Napoli is off limits i think so it would have to be Mathis, Wilson, or Conger. I would hold on to Conger though. And for a SP i would say they would probably want Adenhardt or maybe Weaver. Thoughts anybody?

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Because Mags price tag is $10M less than Manny's will be, strikes out a fraction of the time as Dunn and Burrell while putting up better numbers, Bradley is a DL stint waiting to happen, Ibanez is just....no, I actually have nothing against Rivera other than I would rather he be on the Tigers roster than the Mets.

Mags isn't as old as everyone seems to think, 34, and is still very productive. His contract calls for a $15 million salary in 2006, $12 million in 2007, $15 million in 2008 and $18 million in 2009. Detroit has a $15 million option for 2010 with a $3 million buyout and a $15 million option for 2011 with no buyout.

In addition, Ordonez's salary in each of the option years would become guaranteed if he has 135 starts or 540 plate appearances in the previous season or 270 starts or 1,080 plate appearances in the previous two seasons. If his 2010 salary becomes guaranteed under this provision, it would be at $18 million. The 2011 salary would be $15 million.

So if he hits the DL for any length of time, whoever gets him is off the hook.

It isn't really too much of a salary dump, the Tigers are looking for Major League ready players that are paid much more than prospects. Whatever the Tigers get rid of in Mags they will be taking on some as well.

If the Tigers were trying to unload Sheff, that would be a salary dump.

Unlike many of the local columnists I would be UTTERLY SHOCKED if Magglio was traded in the off season. That said, if some team "knocks the Tigers socks off" with a deal, Dave Dombrowski would listen.

I think all this talk is mostly said columnists needing to justify their positions with the papers/blogs they work for and not Tiger management. After all the columnists need to fill all that newspaper/blog space with something.

There are only a couple to a trio of handfuls of players that are "sure things", by sure things I mean a player that will preform above league averages at their positions. Teams go into an off season with very few of these "sure things" (barring injury), right now the Tigers have 3 and 1/2 to 4 and 1/2, depending on how you feel about Placido Polanco? The 1/2 a sure thing is Carlos Guillen (injury history).

Why would the Tigers trade one of their "sure things" before the season even starts? I almost do not care what number of very likely things they get back. On the other hand, if the 2009 Tigers find themselves scuffling to get to .500 around July 25th, all bets are off.

To the Phillies fan, I would trade Magglio plus a solid prospect (not named Rick Porcello) for Jimmy Rollins.

BTW- the 2 sure things I did not mention, Curtis Granderson and Miguel Cabrera.