Yankees Acquire Nick Swisher

"I like Swish as a player,but thank god i dont have to see or hear his goofy ass in the clubbhouse no more."

So you were in the clubhouse?

oh and can yankee fans get real and stop talking about phil huges like he just had a 16-5 season and is def. in the rotation.......he was a huge dissapoinment and i think that the mexican aceves has as good a chane in march to make the roster as huges dose

I love the comments.

People wondered why Kenny got such a small return for Freddy Garcia. People wondered why KW would trade Brandon McCarthy when he was the next coming. People wondered why KW signed some skinny Cuban kid. People wondered why KW went after Carlos Quentin when it was obvious he wouldnt be able to hit MLB pitching.

First of all, Swisher isnt that cheap. Almost 6 million this year. Also, I guarantee you he was a juicer coming out of Oakland. His antics wore on the clubhouse, and he had two clutch hits-the whole season. He looked at strike three in the 7,8,and 9th innings more than any player I have ever seen before. I think the Yankees win this trade, but if Kenny frees up some money for something better, its okay with me.

RockRaines, and I love the name, the difference is that in all those deals there was upside coming back. Betemit is what he is, Marquez is low ceiling and Nunez is a reliever. Hard to justify that return after what he moved 12 months ago.

LOL, Betemit will not be starting at third base. Are you nuts?

Betemit's acquisition packs the bags for Uribe.

this keeps the sox old and slow, would have preferred to let Konerko go. Betemit will replace Uribe well as the utility INF but not the everyday third baseman.

So the Yankees use Swisher at 1st, and the 20M that they would have spent on Tex goes to a 2nd or 3rd starter instead of just CC to go with Wang, Hughes and Joba.

I got a feeling that this will be a high volume trade season.

Betemit was a good player because he had flexibility and pop in his bat. I think it's silly to really look at guys numbers and judge how good/bad he is when you consider that he doesn't get consistant at bats and is playing a different position every other day. If he can settle in at one spot and play everyday he might suprise some people. I guess Ransom will be our utility guy? As for Swish I doubt he's going to platoon with anyone. I think he can bounec back and have a good year. He's only 28. This gives us a little leverage with Texiera. I bet you Boras' mouth hit the floor as the biggest fisherman may have just left the pond.

White Sox Fans,

I can't believe how quickly so many of your are jumping down KW's throat after all of the amazing moves that he's pulled off throughout the years. Don't you think he's got a bigger picture in mind here?

To me, it sounds like he's in the process of rounding up prospects so that he can make a big splash - Ichiro or Nate McLouth anyone?

"so if he's a bad centerfielder why in the world does he get mentioned at CF,1B. Why wouldn't he play the corner outfields and first base.. that doesn't make sense"

Because we currently have very bad CFs on the roster.

Betemit is a role player. Nothing more.

First of all, Swisher isnt that cheap. Almost 6 million this year

Sorry for the Yankees infield, that's White Castle compared to Smith and Wollensky's.

Marquez used to be a very good prospect in the Yankees farm system. Then suffered an injury, and sort of fell off from there. Still has some upside, and with the right people around him and coaching him, I think he can be a 3 starter.

I honestly dont get this at all. Swisher is really not that good. IMO, this was a waste of a deal. Good to see that Betemit still has some trade value though, lol...

"Betemit is a role player. Nothing more."

Explain why please?

Blanket statements like that are useless when you're talking about a pretty decent hitter.

ya White Sox fans, stop your biatching. I'll give you back the Garcia trade if you want?

Wake me when my Phils are done paying for Jim Thome.

"To me, it sounds like he's in the process of rounding up prospects so that he can make a big splash"

Yeah, like when he made a big splash last year trading even better prospects for swisher. The man is a genius.

perhaps swisher will be part of a bigger deal to get Peavy? I have no sources or anything, just a random idea that occurred to me

"A big splash perhaps. However, not those two at all. Not a chance."

Really, how do you know? Will you be at the winter meetings?

My bad. I mean $10 mil.

This trade is fine by me from a White sox fan standpoint. Let me remind everyone that Swisher hit 203 last year for the entire season. Also Griffey and D-Wise TOOK Swish's spot at CF towards the end of the year so in my perspective this deal doesn't hurt the sox that much.

Im listening so someone please tell me any bad moves KW has made. Everyone thought KW was stupid in getting Quentin.....Floyd....Danks....list goes on. This trade sets up for Aaron Rowands return to Chicago, Along with a signing of Orlando Hudson.

"Yeah, like when he made a big splash last year trading even better prospects for swisher. The man is a genius."

A.J. Pierzynski, Jermaine Dye, Bobby Jenks, Carlos Quentin, Alexei Ramirez, Jim Thome, John Danks, Gavin Floyd...yeah, Kenny Williams really hasn't made too many good moves over the years. He's an idiot.

"Really, how do you know? Will you be at the winter meetings?"

Actually I will, but that has nothing to do with the trade discussion I suppose.

Hey the Cubs are gonna get Albert Pujols! Not possible you say? Are you a GM!?!?!?

Seattle is not moving Ichiro and the Bucs would desire far too much for McLouth.

WAKE UP PhilsWSchamps Philly is no longer paying Jim Thome.

I am hoping that Kenny turns around deals some of thse young pitchers for a player we actually can use. Betemit is horrid on defense, cannot steal bases simply a player the Sox don't need.

With Richard Poreda Broadway and now Nunez and Marquez the Sox have a lot of young pitchers with upside. Some of these pitchers are expendable.

perhaps swisher will be part of a bigger deal to get Peavy? I have no sources or anything, just a random idea that occurred to me

Ya the same random idea occured to someone above and you both are wrong. For goodness sake do the Yankees need Sabbathia,Wong, Joba, Pettitte, Peavy and Mussina? I realize you're all looking to win but you do realize there's still only 162 games in a season, you can't possibly win 200 games next year.

For some the lines of Fantasy baseball and real baseball are a little too blurred.

thanks tough.

That felt like forever. Now I've gotta wake up when the Adam Eaton fiasco is over. That scrub can't get A hitters out (i went to a game and saw the atrocity first hand). He's done after this coming year. then maybe the phils can spend some more.

ChiSox, get your stats right. Swisher hit .219, not .203. If you don't think Swisher will bounce back from this, you are crazy.

Right now, it probably doesn't make sense for San Fran to trade Rowand, considering they want offense.

Kangaroo Boxer the Sox Dont owe anything to OCAB... he isn't even a part of the team anymore

O.C was a slice a sh*t

Cashman ought to be arrested for committing such a brutal rape upon Kenny Williams. Seriously, almost any team in the league could have done better than that?

What would the Royals have given to get him instead of Jacobs? What would Seattle have given for Swish at 1B? Baltimore? Heck the Orioles might have looked favorably on the idea of a deal involving Roberts and Swisher and some combination of other players.

I know Swisher would have been an ideal fit for my Jays, and we could have easily afforded a better combination of players.

I can't believe that Williams didn't pull the trigger too fast here. This is just nuts.

Yankees need pitching anyway

And i back KW on this trade anyday. His past trades say it all.

"Hey the Cubs are gonna get Albert Pujols! Not possible you say? Are you a GM!?!?!?

Seattle is not moving Ichiro and the Bucs would desire far too much for McLouth."

Typical Cub fan response. Well, normally you wouldn't think a top prospect like Jose Ceda could be had for a pitcher like Kevin Gregg either...

Seattle had one of the highest payrolls in all of baseball last year, yet they were one of the worst teams in the league. Ichiro has also worn out his welcome there, as evidenced by teammates plotting against him to kick his ass.

The Pirates would ask a lot for McLouth, but they do have "can't miss" prospect Andrew McCutcheon just waiting in the wings, so it might not take as much as you would think to get him.

Hey Yankee Fans,

what do you think of betemit

can he play 2b

there's already filled spots at 2nd
number of young options that will suck for the '09 season and being optimistic that they will pan out and stay there through '11

hopefully Gets pans out and Nix does something and Beckham makes it out of the minors

basically betemit can play all 4 IF positions but not all that well as he is not that agile. He has a ton of power when he makes contact with the ball but that isnt very often. He's definately a nice bench player who can give u some flexibility.

I agree, i think swish could of brought in more, Im just trying to look at it logically, I highly doubt Kenny tried to get a bad package out of this

KW would've been better served if he had waited to at least the winter meetings. Wait until Tex was off the market.

Tough,
My bad....Still, its $40 Million to 4 guys then.

Still a lot of cash to drop on 4 guys if you are moving towards rebuilding.

Chunk23 - couldn't agree more. I could see a team like the Angels pursuing Swisher if they missed out on Tex. Swisher could solve a problem in either LF or 1B for the Halos.

Could have given KW Willits + similar prospects for Swisher.

I agree with ya I LIKE BASEBALL.

The off season is just beginning and Kenny has to have something up his sleeve. I am thinking that he is going to move Broadway and Richard. He might even move Poreda but the splash he makes needs to be huge if he moves that kid.

Kangaroo - I don't see this move as the Sox moving toward rebuilding. To be honest I don't see the Sox ever entering a rebuilding stage under Kenny Williams. The Sox may be getting younger but that isnt necessarily means rebulding

I've been thinking lately, does anaheim/La/orange county actually want konerko? yea,they wanted him in 2005 and 'o6, but does that mean theyd give up a good, relatively cheap 3b/2b/lf for an overpriced 1b with no speed and questionable hitting stats>?

This is an awful deal for the White Sox. Did Kenny Williams ever think to look at Swishers other numbers like his BABIP and line drive rate?

Swisher's BABIP was right around his career average, and his line drive rate was as well, meaning that essentially, Swisher had awful, awful luck this season. To trade him as if he was closer to the player he was in Chicago rather than Oakland is astounding. He could have very well have put up huge numbers in a hitter friendly park like US Cellular in 2009. He hit 35 home runs while playing half his games in Oakland, so the guy clearly has huge power potential.

This is just, selling so low that I really didn't think they'd move him in a deal like this.

I think it's pretty obvious what Kenny's plan is: platoon Wilson Betemit and Josh Fields at third base. Betemit can hit righties pretty well, but isn't too good against lefties. Fields can mash lefties, but has trouble against righties. Bam. Platoon. Third base is set for Chicago.

The pitchers they received are pretty underwhelming. Nunez is a good prospect and could very well become a solid 3/4 or good reliever, and Marquez should be a solid back of the rotation guy pretty soon as well. Neither guy really has big upside, but I would expect both to at least get a good chance to contribute in Chicago.

CBG -- according to Heyman that was the Yankees Plan B option

to trade for Swisher, there are too many teams on the open market sniping down Teixeria
and ya know, you just can't buy yourself a WS, and the Yankees are a perfect prime example of it
sorry :-/

Swisher is a solid player that has a good glove and substantial amount of power
and he ain't gonna hit .219 again that's for damn sure

Guys....prospects are suspects. how is mark prior doing?

If Betemit was William's ultimate target with this trade, I think ChiSox fans are going to be greatly disappointed. When the Yankees first traded for Betemit, I was like a bunch of you who have posted here...optimistic about the power numbers accrued during limited playing time. The problem with Betemit is that there's a reason why wherever he goes, his playing time is limited. He's a below average defender at all infield positions and he strikes out a ton without getting on base. If he's being slotted into an everyday role, you're going to end up missing Swisher's production very quickly.

Not being a White Sox Fan I am not overly aware of how they do their business, so I am subject to ignorance of what I read only. So far, all I've read is how they want to get younger/more athletic. Usually thats a clever euphamism for rebuilding.

Which did strike me as odd given the White Sox solid showing last season.

I digress....if your team is not the rebuilding type, then it is a safe bet that as some are suggesting Kenny Williams does have something up his sleeve planned.

From what I do know of the White Sox, he has made some trades that most people questioned at first but later turned out to be pretty solid.

just a thought, but Dye, vazquez to LAA for figgins and gary mathews, wit hLa picking up 5 mil of matthews contract? sound reasonable?

lol Kangaroo, yes, that is perfect euphemism for rebuilding, good choice on the vocab

and Williams has done a lot of crazy things in the past, so i don't know how this off season is gonna turn out

a couple trades here and there can destroy a team

randy johnson to chicago 7 mil one year? Kenny has always liked him

i know matthews isnt that great, but him in center batting 2nd, with figgins leading off at 3b? sounds nice to me