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2:07pm: Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution believes the Braves will probably guarantee a fifth year to Burnett, at a salary of $15-16MM per.
9:56am: Will the Braves be the team to commit five years to A.J. Burnett? According to Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News, they're preparing such an offer. Feinsand wonders if Burnett will jump at this offer without waiting to see what C.C. Sabathia does.
SI.com's Jon Heyman seems to agree with Feinsand's report. He learned from Braves GM Frank Wren that the Braves are in on Burnett but not Jake Peavy, and heard talk that the Braves might consider a fifth year. Wren described talks for Peavy as "pretty much" over.
Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution says the Braves are one of six teams in negotiations with Burnett. Heyman believes the other teams to be the Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles, and Nationals.
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"Now looking at the good side. If Aj & Javier pitch good, which I would expect them to do, the braves could look pretty good with Hudson, AJ and Vasquez plus the othe rookies."
Hudson will be out most if not all of 2009. Even when he returns, he'll be a huge question mark after the Tommy John surgery.
Posted by: UtleyFan | December 03, 2008 at 02:55 PM
If AJ has an actual 5 year offer from the Braves he should take it, becasue if it is a bluff to get the Padres down on peavy and Towers blinks first then AJ is back without anyone willing to give him that 5th year and a deteriorating economy.
Posted by: CMM | December 03, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Do people still consider pitchers that are a year and a half removed from TJ question marks? The success rate of the surgery is so how at this point that I consider Hudson almost certain to deliver at least 90-95% of his normal performance in 2010. A rotation with him, AJ, Vazquez, Jurrjens, and Hanson could be pretty good in 2010.
Posted by: nixa37 | December 03, 2008 at 03:06 PM
"Do people still consider pitchers that are a year and a half removed from TJ question marks? The success rate of the surgery is so how at this point that I consider Hudson almost certain to deliver at least 90-95% of his normal performance in 2010. A rotation with him, AJ, Vazquez, Jurrjens, and Hanson could be pretty good in 2010."
True, but you have to factor in Hudson's age. He is also only under contract until the end of next season w/ an option for 2010.
Posted by: UtleyFan | December 03, 2008 at 03:15 PM
They can still bring John smoltz or Glavine right?
Posted by: DominicanYanks | December 03, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Smoltz and Glavine are both free agents this season. While it's possible that one or both could be back next season, they are both near the end of the road.
Posted by: UtleyFan | December 03, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Smoltz or Glavine? Maybe they could see if Gene Garber and Pascual Perez are available?
Posted by: CMM | December 03, 2008 at 03:24 PM
Say the braves signed Manuel and Burnett; Manuel, I'm guessing, is a higher rated free agent, so the Dodgers would get the bravos' 2nd rounder and a Supp pick (a good one ~34) and the Jays would get the bravos' 3rd rounder and a Supp pick (a good one too ~38, but not as good as the Dodgers' new supp pick)
When you look at the peripherals of Peavy and Burnett, they are pretty similarly weighted h/9, k/9, whip, etc. peavy has the edge in all categories by a little except k rate. move to the NL and i think it is a wash.
and the other poster made a good point about AJ perhaps being more of a Pitcher than a thrower, henceforth, a healthy 2 years.
Posted by: ArodMVP217 | December 03, 2008 at 03:40 PM
i would not be suprised if smoltz comes back strong and has a good year - i would love to see him back as a starter - as for glavine .. hes done
Posted by: Z3R0 | December 03, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Perhaps Wren could flip Vasquez in a trade for Peavy?
Braves get Peavy, Padres get Vasquez/Morton/Prado/Hernandez
I think that trade would be a win for both the Padres and the Braves. The Braves could then sign Burnett which would give the Braves a very competitive starting rotation of:
Peavy
Burnett
Jurrjens
Campillo or Glavine
Hanson or Reyes
The Padres get two starters (that would probably do well at Petco) a future star in CF, and a very serviceable 2nd baseman / utility player.
Anybody else think this is a good trade?
Posted by: teacher365 | December 03, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Javy is owed $24 million over the next 2 years, so there is no way the Padres want him. Plus, why would the Braves trade prosepcts for a guy that they are only going to move? They would have just done the Peavy deal already. The Braves are out of Peavy unless Towers buckles before AJ takes a 5 year offer from the Braves....assuming that anything that is rumored is true at all.
Posted by: CMM | December 03, 2008 at 04:02 PM
No that's clearly not a good trade and this is coming from a Braves fan. The Padres would have absolutely no interest in Vazquez. They're looking to cut payroll and Vazquez earns just as much as Peavy this coming season. That deal clearly doesn't make sense on any level for the Pads.
Posted by: nixa37 | December 03, 2008 at 04:02 PM
i thought the payroll figure for this years padres was supposed to be like 40 mil if so why give a fourth of it to one guy, vazquez, and if you were to give a fourth of it to a pitcher why not peavy? your deal has too many holes man.
Posted by: roguesaw | December 03, 2008 at 05:11 PM
The Braves need this SP in Burnett. I know that he's an injury risk, but believe me, it will be worth it, just sign the man!
Posted by: Braves Fan2020 | December 03, 2008 at 05:57 PM
Thanks for the help. That sucks that the Jays could only get a sandwich pick and a 3rd rounder if the braves sign another A free agent though =(
Posted by: BaseBallz | December 03, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Great. The Yankees don't have to sign Burnett. Id rather see Burnett to go to the Braves and kill the Mets than any other team. Hopefully the Yankees start looking at Ben Sheets now. The biggest problem right now is that Lowe might be offered a stupid contract from the Yanks.
Posted by: yankfan1 | December 03, 2008 at 07:24 PM
So let me get this straight: some Braves fans(apparently not the sensible ones) are excited to get injury-prone Burnett for a 5-year, 75-80 million contract???
On a good day, Burnett is an inferior pitcher to Peavy. Even with the 2013 option picked up, Jake still costs almost 20 million less over 5 years and is much less of an injury risk than Burnett.
How is this a better alternative? You get to keep 3 prospects. I sure hope that Burnett comes close to matching Peavy's production over the next 5 years AND that Hanson pans out or Wren is going to look like a fool.
Posted by: tomfromsd | December 04, 2008 at 02:38 AM