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Braves Rumors: Hampton, Lowe, Burnett

Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has the latest on the Braves in a new blog post.

  • The Braves never intended Mike Hampton to be one of the two front-rotation starters they acquire this winter, so his rejection of their offer doesn't affect their plans much.
  • O'Brien notes that he's heard no indications that the Braves are actively pursuing Derek LoweA.J. Burnett seems to be their top target, and it wouldn't be surprising to see the Jake Peavy talks revived at the Winter Meetings.
  • The Braves made trade inquiries on Roy Oswalt and Matt Cain and "haven't received favorable replies in those pursuits."
  • Free agents Ben Sheets and Randy Johnson don't seem to be on the radar due to concerns over their reliability.
  • The Braves continue to seek a power bat, with Ryan Ludwick and Jermaine Dye the two targets mentioned in recent weeks.


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Say no to Oswalt!! I know he had some good years and at times can still be dominate, but for a Peavy type package?..he ain't worth it!! I'll add a BIG NO to Ludwick, I wouldn't send them Prado and B.Jones for a possible one year wonder!! Get mad Wren and spend that $ on Burnett and use those prospects for the Peavster..you can do it!!!!

i can see them caving in and giving top prospects (other than hanson) to the padres for peavy. i think burnett and lowe will sign with the yankees after CC signs with the angels, thus creating the need for peavy.

So... they're worried about Sheets' and Johnson's reliability, yet their main target is Burnett?

Am I missing something here?

and as far as a bat is concerned, what about delmon young from the twins? maybe yunel escobar for delmon young and some prospect pitchers.

He'd never do it but I'd sure take a chance on R Johnson's reliability in Kansas City.

Now let's see Delmon Young for Yunel Escobar....and a couple pithcing prospect...I'm sorry that's just absurd and needs no futher comment...as much as I love Yunel, I am concerned he maybe a bit injury prone...

Braves will end up getting Sheets and will almost get Burnett and will have to settle for a Wolf type...and we will have to pray Smoltz and Glavine have something in the tank for about 25-30 starts combined...

Sheets
Jurrjens
Wolf
Glavine/Smoltz
Campillo/Hanson

Not looking like a playoff type team....I miss our 90's staff's...makes you realize what we all took for granted for so many years...

This Hampton situation is garbage. Whether or not he was 1 of the 2 or not, he is still better than Campillo, Carlyle, or Bennett! So now our rotation is

JJ
Campillo
Morton
Reyes
Bennett/Carlyle

Someone please shoot me in the face! If we don't land 3 pitchers we are in huge trouble. Burnett, Peavy and a Paul Byrd type or Randy Wolf maybe, and don't tell me we are getting Smoltz, and Glavine back at some point because Glav was bad most of the time last year when he was healthy, 4 good innings is not gonna get it Tommy! I hope Mike Hampton gets gonorrhea for leaving the Braves after milking it for so long especially since we offered more money! You have no soul Mikey.

how is that absurd? escobar is a good defender who has proven he can hit at a scarce position. delmon COULD be good, but hasn't proven much power wise in the majors, and i think delmon plus something like 2 of mulvey/humber/bonser/swarzak/ is pretty equal value.

Oswalt can be some times dominating? He had a bad start(all pitchers struggle in their career) in '08, sure but he redeemed himself the second half. He just had to fix some machinical flaws. '08 was his first yr he has really ever struggled, the man has been an work horse and he was bound to have a "down" yr/half. Peavy has that spacous pitchers park to work with..

Someone is on crack.

Yunel is worth a LOT more than an unproven corner OF. Now, I like Delmon, and he has MASSIVE upside, but Yunel Escobar is worth a lot more.

And, that trade makes zero sense for the Braves. If the Twins want Escobar, they have to give up one of Slowey or Baker. Not Delmon.

The Royals offer Teahen, Buck, German, Gload, Shealy, and Tony Pena in exchange for Escobar.

Any takers?

I wonder what it would take to get Delmon and Liriano

"I wonder what it would take to get Delmon and Liriano"

The Twins fire Smith, hire Bavarsi.

How abotu Yunel, Hanson/Freeman/Heyward, Francouer, and another valuable.

Maybe if Liriano was still in his pre injury form. But otherwise, that's just a ridiculous overvaluation of him.

As for the second comment, since Atlanta was the one who walked away and Towers, despite whoring himself around, has been unable to find a deal to match it, I doubt it will take any more to get Peavy.

"How abotu Yunel, Hanson/Freeman/Heyward, Francouer, and another valuable."

You need bitchslapped and hung by your toes, because that is insane.

"Say no to Oswalt!! I know he had some good years and at times can still be dominate"

SOME good years? That's what you call his career? How many pitchers consistently do 200+ innings and keep a low era? A couple of bad starts this year and suddenly he sucks? Enough with the Oswalt bashing! He's STILL an ace.


"Yunel is worth a LOT more than an unproven corner OF."

I hate to break this to you and many other Braves fans... Escobar isn't this great all star people want him to be. One day, yes he could be a very good player... but let's stop talking about him like he's the second coming.

""How abotu Yunel, Hanson/Freeman/Heyward, Francouer, and another valuable."

I think Atlanta would have to throw in McCann as well. And cash.

not saying he is an all star but i do agree that he is worth more value than delmon young being he plays SS -

"not saying he is an all star but i do agree that he is worth more value than delmon young"

Well remember, Young still has the aura of potential 40 hr a year power... only a couple of years ago he was the next big thing. Point being is people are talking about Escobar's potential... even with Young not hitting his potential yet, the potential part is the key to any of these deals.

start_wearing_purple,

I can't remember anyone ever calling Escobar an all-star or anything of the sort. He is however arguably the 3rd best young SS in the game (far behind Ramirez and Reyes but who isn't) and he's under team control cheaply for 5 more years, which takes him completely through his prime years (26-30).

I hate to break it to you, but Delmon isn't a highly touted, future all star anymore. The truth of the matter is Escobar has been the better hitter the past two seasons and he's done so while playing a premium defensive position at an extremely elite level. Only a biased Twins fan would think their values are remotely comparable.

Escobar is a injury-risk .300 40+ 2B's 15HR .375OBP type...he is essentially a better defender and less speed version on Renteria in his prime...even his opposite field line drive power swing....Delmon Young...is a young...will be...should been already...might not be...type...stuck in the .280 30 2bs 25Hr range right now

Does anyone actually buy that Delmon will still develop 40 HR power? Since being promoted from AA the guy has exactly 40 HR in over 1900 ABs. I guess maybe that switch will suddenly get flipped over night, but I think its far more likely that Young was just really overhyped after a great year at low-A and a great half season in AA. Ever since he really hasn't impressed.

"The Royals offer Teahen, Buck, German, Gload, Shealy, and Tony Pena in exchange for Escobar."

"Any takers?"

Okay -- except you have to keep Pena.

"Everything I read states, or implies, that a team receives draft picks if a player who is offered arbitration is signed by another team even when the player rejects arbitration. Is this the way it works? I thought if the player turned arbitration down, then the draft pick compensation is out the window as well. I’ve been wrong before. But this would mean if Wren is successful in his coupe to sweep up AJ, Lowe and who ever else, the Braves will have one pick in the first round (6th overall) and then no picks until the third or fourth round. (By the way, this brings up another question: assume a team signs multiple type A free agents, how do the compensation picks work? Does the team of the first Type A get the second round, and the team of the second Type A get the third round and so on?)"

Oswalt has had "some good years"? The guy has a better career ERA than Maddux, Webb, Peavey, Randy Johnson, Carlos Zambrano and Roy Halladay.

nixa37, putting Escobar's talent up near Tulowitzki is hard to fathom. Hardy, Drew, and Escobar are second tier to me for youth.

This is from a Braves fan.
I think a straight Esco-Delmon deal would be respectable if the Braves were positive on Renteria or Fucal.

how can you even say 25hr when he has only hit 23hr in two full season so far.

I wasn't thinking about Tulo because of the injury last season, but I don't think its ridiculous to say that Escobar is arguably the better young SS at this point. Up to this point in their respective careers Escobar has been superior with the bat and though Tulo is a wiz with the glove, Escobar is just a notch below him and Rollins.

Obviously Tulo is younger and has more upside than Escobar, but as of today I think Escobar is the more valuable player.

Honestly, I just don't see the point of Delmon Young for the Braves. We're already loaded with high upside OF guys and could easily find a LF that should greatly outperform Delmon in the short term. I'd much rather keep Escobar and use the money we'd spend on SS to fill the hole in LF. I certainly wouldn't mind Young if he came as part of a package that included pitching too, but 5 years of Escobar for 4 years of Delmon straight up would just be a terrible move for the Braves.

We've got the money to make a BOOM in the market this year, Wren has already addressed that. Why not grow a pair and go after Peavy and Burnett, along with Vasquez, Jurrjens, and Campillo would be an insane rotation.

"We've got the money to make a BOOM in the market this year, Wren has already addressed that. Why not grow a pair and go after Peavy and Burnett, along with Vasquez, Jurrjens, and Campillo would be an insane rotation."

To get Peavy, Burnett also, Braves would need almost $55-$60 million to do that a long with a outfielder, which will cost at mininum $13-$15 million.

If the Braves are trading Escobar or Johnson for Ludwick they want the Cards to throw in a prospect.
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