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Tony Massarotti of the Boston Globe has a wrap-up of the Red Sox' catching situation heading into the beginning of the 2009 season.
Even after signing Jason Varitek, the Red Sox were rumored to have been continuing their pursuit of a trade for a young catcher. In today's article, Massarotti writes that at the beginning of Diamondbacks camp, Miguel Montero was informed that "no deals were imminent." Instead, it appears the Red Sox will stick with Josh Bard for now.
However, Massarotti also mentions another interesting in-house option for the Red Sox in George Kottaras. Massarotti summarizes Kottaras' situation:
Kottaras is out of options and could be a threat to beat out Bard, though the more likely scenario is that the Red Sox are trying to increase Kottaras’ trade value so that they do not simply lose him on waivers.
It's probably going to be 'Tek and Bard on Opening Day. We'll see if the Red Sox end up acquiring, or even trading away, any young catchers in the meantime.
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Jason Varitek should *not* be an impediment to the Sox targetting a young catcher in a trade. Tek just isn't worth that much.
Josh Bard is probably the better catcher right now.
Posted by: melonis rex | February 22, 2009 at 01:01 PM
Varitek should have never been resigned. Bard is the better hitter, and should have gotten the opportunity to start.
Posted by: Rob M. | February 22, 2009 at 01:10 PM
I'm glad Mauer's name wasn't brought up again in this talk. It would never happen.
Posted by: Goat Punishment | February 22, 2009 at 01:19 PM
Bard and Kottaras was a better plan, now they are stuck with 2 weak defense catchers in Tek and Bard and will lose Kottaras who can hit in the long run for either nothing, or close to it and end up paying Tek 8-10M.. What a shame for a team that usually lets old vets walk when they are finished.
Hopefully Kottaras has a good spring and they at least trade/release Bard instead.
Posted by: johns | February 22, 2009 at 01:23 PM
They needed Tek back. You can't put a price on a catcher who knows your pitching staff.
People should get it out of there heads that a catcher should be a productive position, hitting wise.
Slights against his defense are warranted, but you can't be a team with expectations like the Sox and go into Opening Day with two guys that have little experience with the pitching staff.
It's more important a catcher knows how to call a game than his average or RBI total. Although, a good OBP couldn't hurt.
This is coming from a Yankee fan, mind you.
Posted by: JoeyA | February 22, 2009 at 01:34 PM
Yes, Bard will be better offensively than Varitek but, frankly, Josh just isn't that good at catching. Hard to believe that the Bos front office let themselves get put in this position. I look for a deal by the break. They're going to have to resign themselves to giving up value for a Salty, Teagarden, Montero or Shoppach. The rest of the league just isn't going to hand over a catcher for nothing because the Sox need one.
Posted by: MickS | February 22, 2009 at 01:34 PM
Johns..
good thing your post made sense...is that even english?
Posted by: GoSoX | February 22, 2009 at 01:36 PM
"People should get it out of there heads that a catcher should be a productive position, hitting wise."
Yeah. It's not like you only have nine positions, so you really need to maximize your production from each position.
You may not need great production from the catchers spot, but offensively, a good team can't afford to have any black holes in their lineup. It gives the pitcher a chance to rest while wasting an opportunity to score.
If Varitek bounces back some offensively, he can be a decent catcher, but his performance last year was awful.
By the way, that whole Varitek knows the pitching staff thing is a load of crap. The staff as a whole had a better ERA with Cash behind the plate than Tek last season. He may be good at calling games, but the value of that is amorphous and difficult to determine, while it's easy to determine the value of a guy who can hit and play solid defense from the catchers position.
Posted by: scribbletone | February 22, 2009 at 02:28 PM
"I'm glad Mauer's name wasn't brought up again in this talk."
Not this year. I keep hearing rumors swirling around next year. But that still doesn't make any sense considering the Twins are probably the AL Central favorites.
Red Sox probably should have picked up Montero. They have no young catchers in the minors that could take over starting duties until 2011. Even then, that's assuming they pan out as prospects.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | February 22, 2009 at 02:34 PM
Red Sox do have young catchers in the system and decent ones. Just not the next Joe Mauer or Carlton Fisk. :P
Posted by: JFossick | February 22, 2009 at 03:18 PM
I wish the Yankees sign Kottaras. I want at least 1 Greek guy in the Yankees.
Posted by: yankfan1 | February 22, 2009 at 03:50 PM
"I want at least 1 Greek guy in the Yankees."
ARod doesn't count?
Posted by: Little Bear | February 22, 2009 at 05:52 PM
i didnt think bard's deal was guaranteed...
so doesnt that make the backup job kottaras's to lose since the sox dont really lose anything other than bard's tryout time if bard doesnt win it, but do lose george to waivers if bard does win the spot?
and is there still a market for bard if they decide not to go with him? then would he sign a minor league deal with the sox?
im guessing brown gets overlooked just becuase of the other two's situations.
Posted by: elmedius | February 22, 2009 at 06:44 PM
Melonis, Johns and Scribble: good posts. I do hope the Sox closely scrutinize all the catchers in Spring Training this year, because both Pawtucket guys had terrific years in '08 and it would be a shame to lose one, or especially both of them just because Tek is back. The chances are good that Tek is a $3MM back-up next year, and there probably won't be any top-notch catchers available via trade anytime soon, so it would be best to determine which guy is the best option to be able to catch 100 games over the next several weeks. And, as elmedius says, if the best option is Kotteras or Brown, then Bard could/should be the odd man out. (This would be a shame, and is why I didn't want Boston to resign Tek.)
Posted by: RedSoxBob | February 22, 2009 at 06:54 PM
elmedius, Bard's deal isn't guaranteed, but odds are Bard could be a better bat to have on the bench. Of course Theo hates to give up young players, so I wouldn't be shocked to see Kottaras win out over Bard. As for Brown, the only way he wins the job is by starting to take steroids or if Kottaras and Bard are injured. Still, he could be a potential back up in the future.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | February 22, 2009 at 08:03 PM
Every Sox pitcher prefers Varitek and will be pissed if they are stuck with Bard who is a mediker at the catching part of catching.
Wakefield will have to be caught by Tek since Bard had about four passed balls per start last time around.
Posted by: slashieboy | February 22, 2009 at 08:44 PM
Bard or Kotteras may be a potential trade chip. Colorado badly needs starting pitching and the Rocks had some interest in J. Bard as a backup catcher last fall. Boston could decide to part with one of their quality MLB-ready pitching prospects (Bucholtz or Bowden) and package whoever with one of these catchers. Ianetta is not in the elite class (at least not yet) but he's a very good young catcher and certainly better than any of the unproven Texas trio. A tandem of Varitek and Ianetta would solve Boston's plateminder problem and add some pop to the lineup to boot, while the Rockies could add catching depth and a stud young pitcher without a huge cash outlay. Could be a match.
Posted by: Lock | February 22, 2009 at 08:58 PM
If the Sox aren't willing to give up Buccholz for Salty or Bard for Montero, the most I see the Sox giving up for Iannetta is Bowden and even then they'd probably rather keep Bowden.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | February 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Its all going to come down to how well Veritek is hitting by the middle of May. If he proves that 2008 was a fluke, by getting off to a fast start, the talk about a younger replacement will subside until the Fall. If, on the other hand, he is stroking the ball at .190 clip, with 3/4 dingers, his days as the Sox starting catcher are all but over. The pressure of the press and fans will drive Theo into the market to find a new guy, poste haste, by the middle of May, regardless of the price he has to pay.
Posted by: hawkny | February 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Boston failed to focus on getting a legit young backup catcher several years ago and it turned into a near nightmare for them this year. I don't think they'll make that mistake again regardless of how well Varitek does. Unless Kotteras suddenly turns into McCann or Soto during spring training the Sox won't wait too long to find V's future replacement, and it makes perfects sense to do it while V is freshly signed, head in the game and can mentor to the max.
Iannetta has over 100 MLB games played (far more MLB experience than Salty or Tea) and in 333 ABs posted stats of .390 OBP, .895 OPS, .264 ave., 65 RBIs and 18 HRs. He hit almost equally well against both righties and lefties. He's 6' and 225#, a near perfect size for a catcher. And he's a 'real' catcher...not a soon-to-be 1st baseman. In virtually all aspects of experience and stats Iannetta is clearly better than anything Texas can offer...and to top it off he's from Rhode Island and has said he'd like to play for Boston. What's not to like.
a trade probably won't happen....but it won't be because it isn't a very good match for both clubs.
Posted by: Lock | February 23, 2009 at 05:14 AM
I would really like to see Danial Bard stay with Boston and not get traded away in any catcher deal, same with Bucholz and Bowden, Masterson. if any is going to get moved, save them for a young/controllable power bat that may become available either later on during the season, or during the 2010 off season. Boston has several young catchers in the lower minors who have a chance (Exposito,Lavarnway, Federowicz) and would prefer to wait at least another year before addressing that situation.
Posted by: johns | February 23, 2009 at 01:22 PM
I have to disagree, johns. Boston certainly needs a bat but a good young catcher is second only to a good young pitcher in overall value, and takes awhile to develop. Boston has the pitching, the need, the opportunity and the perfect tutor in place. Its time.
Posted by: Lock | February 23, 2009 at 03:04 PM
I disagree as well. I'm not a hundred percent convinced Bard's control will ever be enough to be a closer. A good set up man, likely, but as long as we can currently market him as a future closer then he'll be at his peak value.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | February 23, 2009 at 04:19 PM