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Halladay Could Demand A Trade After The Season If Traded
Todd Zolecki of MLB.com reminds us of a rarely used rule that could possibly come into play if Roy Halladay is moved before this year's trade deadline. If a player signed a multi-year extension before October 2006 and is traded during the life of the contract, the player can then demand a trade during the offseason. If the team falls to trade the player by March 15th, he becomes a free agent. Halladay signed a three year, $40MM extension in March of '06.
Javier Vazquez is the only player to take advantage of this rule in recent years, when he demanded a trade out of Arizona following the 2005 season. Since he already has a no trade clause it's unlikely Halladay will end up with a team he doesn't want to play for, but he could use this rule as leverage to get a contract extension after the season. That last part is just speculation on my part, though.
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Neat little caveat, but it's probably not getting invoked if he goes anywhere.
Posted by: thephrontiersman | July 17, 2009 at 07:15 PM
A smart team would use this as leverage against the Jays to get them to lower their price for a trade.
Posted by: Scott Candage | July 17, 2009 at 07:15 PM
"A smart team would use this as leverage against the Jays to get them to lower their price for a trade.
Posted by: Scott Candage | July 17, 2009 at 07:15 PM"
...And the Jays would end up dealing him to the "Dumb" team for top dollar anyways.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | July 17, 2009 at 07:22 PM
"A smart team would use this as leverage against the Jays to get them to lower their price for a trade."
Foolish. If he waves his no-trade to go to you, there is obviously no reason to think he will force you to trade him again. If a team attempted to use this as leverage, they would be laughed out of the room.
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 17, 2009 at 07:24 PM
I could have sworn they changed this rule with the last CBA
Posted by: GrenzNomaas | July 17, 2009 at 07:26 PM
I doubt Halladay even gets traded.
Posted by: dan l | July 17, 2009 at 07:29 PM
"I could have sworn they changed this rule with the last CBA"
They did, which is why only contracts signed prior to October 2006 are involved.
"Foolish. If he waves his no-trade to go to you, there is obviously no reason to think he will force you to trade him again. If a team attempted to use this as leverage, they would be laughed out of the room."
Yeah, I agree with this. If Halladay approves a trade to go there in the first place, there's no reason to believe he would demand one half a season later. Because he can always stay in Toronto if he wants to.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 17, 2009 at 07:29 PM
And demanding a trade looks awful when you're vying for a FA contract that next offseason.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 17, 2009 at 07:30 PM
Didn't JD Drew invoke the same clause to get out of LA?
Posted by: Tigerdog | July 17, 2009 at 07:43 PM
And- he's got no trade protection up front anyway.
Posted by: Tigerdog | July 17, 2009 at 07:45 PM
Didn't JD Drew invoke the same clause to get out of LA?
Posted by: Tigerdog | July 17, 2009 at 07:43 PM
No. He simply opted out of his deal, like A-Rod.
Halladay is too classy to do this. I see no way this happens, at all.
Posted by: UnbiasedYankee | July 17, 2009 at 07:55 PM
Cliff Lee's got the same deal right?
Posted by: wayne gomes | July 17, 2009 at 08:18 PM
The Jays are gonna be wary of spending money, as the last 3 guys they gave huge contracts to ended up all being massive wastes of money (at least from the current vantage point). B.J. Ryan, Alex Rios, Vernon Wells. Paid a combined 243 million dollars and it looks like about $201 million was a colossal waste.
They'd probably need to start at about 6 years/105 million. They can't afford that. They'll ship him and he'll sign his extension lickity-split, ala Santana.
My best bet for the suitor? The Angels, believe it or not....6 years/120 million.
Posted by: BomberMan26 | July 17, 2009 at 08:19 PM
Cliff Lee's got the same deal right?
Posted by: wayne gomes | July 17, 2009 at 08:18 PM
Awesome point; it's true. Cot's says the contract was signed August 2006, so there's your proof. Rather neat.
Posted by: UnbiasedYankee | July 17, 2009 at 08:37 PM
Its funny but most of the people who want Doc to pitch for their team and are commenting on what Halladay will or won't do once he is dealt or if he will waive his no trade etc... do not have an understanding of what makes this guy tick.
He is not a prima donna.
he took 2 below market extensions because he likes Toronto, is happy making 15m when he could have got 21m somewhere else. What does that say...? money isn't everything for him. What is everything for him is winning and being master at his craft a la Martin Scorsese. I mean he lives in Dunedin in the off season so he can be close to the Jays facilities..
Whoever gets him will have him locked up in the off season to a 4 year deal mark my words..
Posted by: cortez101 | July 17, 2009 at 09:17 PM
Halladay isn't going to Ok a trade to a team and then abandon that team in the fall. That's not the way he does business. I think he'd be insulted if you even insinuated he'd act in such a way. He's a class act.
Posted by: Jim T | July 17, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Uh huh...
Johnny Damon...
CC Sabathia...
Tom Glavine...
These guys are class acts but acted in the best interest of themselves...
This is a business, not candyland... When will people start to realize that people act in the best interest of themselves always... Even when they act in the best interest of the team, they are still acting in the best interest of themselves...
Just because JD Drew opted out of his contract doesn't make him scum... Just because Vazquez forced a trade doesn't make him a bad guy... They know there is better money elsewhere...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I'm sure that if you asked Halladay if he would demand a trade to a contending team that was prepared to offer him a monster extension, he would demand away...
Not be insulted at the accusation...
Do you really think that Doc cares about what people think about him ???
People who stay out of the spotlight either care too much or not at all... He seems like he could give a rats ass what people think...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Just because JD Drew opted out of his contract doesn't make him scum... Just because Vazquez forced a trade doesn't make him a bad guy... They know there is better money elsewhere... '
Now, ask Dodger fans if JD is scum. He isnt scum because he opted out, or made us get Pierre to replace him, but rather because he said 'There is no way Im leaving' two months before he did. The Dodgers werent prepared to have to find another OF, and had to get Pierre. That is why Drew is scum, in Dodger fans eyes...
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | July 18, 2009 at 01:45 AM
wow allabouthephils, I almost dont know what to say...
I guess I would ask why a player you insist will act in the best interest of himself in his pursuit of nothing other then cash has taken not one, but two below market contracts from his current team. But whatever, you seem to know much more about his desires then he does.
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 18, 2009 at 02:36 AM
"wow allabouthephils, I almost dont know what to say...
I guess I would ask why a player you insist will act in the best interest of himself in his pursuit of nothing other then cash has taken not one, but two below market contracts from his current team. But whatever, you seem to know much more about his desires then he does.
Posted by: SuzysMan | July 18, 2009 at 02:36 AM "
Even when a player, seemingly, acts in the best interest of the team... They are still acting in the best interest of themselves... Think about it... Each player is, essentially, a franchise... They have to market themselves accordingly and have personal interests... If you think that Halladay is putting the team in front of his own personal interests, your dellusional...
As for the JD Drew thing... Until you've walked in that man's shoes and travelled his journey, don't judge...
I've never had to judge a major league baseball market with the player's union breathing down my neck to set the bar for outfielders and the pressure of turning down 15MM a year for 4 years... But, hell I guess some of us should be so priviledged... I'm a Phillies fan and I don't hate JD for doing his thing... He is a man and is acting in the best interest of himself... I would do the same damn thing... I would grab every stinking penny...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 18, 2009 at 05:37 PM