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Roy Halladay Rumors: Tuesday
4:20pm: Ricciardi told Jon Heyman of SI.com that he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't at least listen to offers for Halladay.
3:20pm: Ricciardi told ESPN.com's Buster Olney that he prepared his ace for a possible trade. Halladay told his GM that he will listen if Ricciardi decides on a deal and needs approval.
"We're going to see what's out there," Ricciardi told Olney.
Speaking to the Canadian Press, Ricciardi said he's not confident the Jays and Halladay have a future once their current deal expires after next year.
"I'm not so sure payroll-wise where we're going to be able to be after 2010," he said. "I'm not so sure that the player wants to stay here beyond 2010."
1:27PM: Roy Halladay can be had, but any team looking to acquire him will have to part with a number of top young players or prospects. Here are the details on the latest name to become available:
- Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail talked to J.P. Ricciardi who repeats that the Jays will listen to offers for Roy Halladay. However, the Jays are only going to trade him for an awesome collection of talent.
- Jon Heyman of SI.com sees the Phillies and Yankees as early favorites for Halladay, followed by the Angels.
- MLB.com's Todd Zolecki points out that the Blue Jays "hold all the cards." If they hear a great offer, they can take it; if not, they have their ace around for 2010.
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I dont think the yankees are going to sign him. I think the Phillies are though. I think they will once he becomes a free agent or they'll trade for him. The Jays would never trade Halladay to the yankees.
Posted by: yankfan1 | July 07, 2009 at 01:32 PM
Yanks spent almost a half a billion dollars on free agents and already they need more? They are the epitome of what is wrong with baseball.
Posted by: njbraves | July 07, 2009 at 01:34 PM
i am curious as to who the hell people think the yankees are going to offer. ok, phil hughes. and? and? and?
probably no one. i mean really. people just hand these players to them most of them time.
Posted by: stephen | July 07, 2009 at 01:34 PM
Ken Rosenthal has an article out full of rumors and MLBTR still hasn't put a post on it.
When did MLBTR become so slow?
Posted by: russell | July 07, 2009 at 01:37 PM
Sorry Heyman, but Zolecki's got this one. The Jays are the early favorites for Halladay.
Posted by: Torgen | July 07, 2009 at 01:37 PM
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb rumormongering. The Jays are not trading Halladay. The Yankees are not trading Hughes+Austin Jackson+Melancon+Montero+etc. for 1.5 seasons of Halladay. They are not early favorites. No one is an early favorite. Halladay is not being dealt.
Again, Halladay is not being dealt.
Posted by: V | July 07, 2009 at 01:39 PM
in speaking to Jays fans what to them is a FAIR offer from the Phillies considering that the Phils will have him for a year and a half minimum and he's a top pitcher in the game? In comparing the price for Sabbathia for a half year vs a year and a half for Halladay is Carrasco, Cloyd and Dom Brown enough? Throw in Donald and Marson and take out Dom Brown?
Not knowing exactly what the Jays system needs are i'd be interested to see their fans and what they'd want from the Phils.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 01:41 PM
As mentioned months ago, I think the only way that Toronto gives up Halladay is in a package with V. Wells and his obnoxious contract.
Posted by: Svengoolie | July 07, 2009 at 01:49 PM
MLBTR already covered the article full of Halladay news, Russell.
Posted by: MorneauVP | July 07, 2009 at 01:50 PM
Er, rumors, I should say... not news.
Posted by: MorneauVP | July 07, 2009 at 01:50 PM
The Jays will ask for Dominic Brown, Carlos Carrasco and Jason Knapp most likely.
The Phillies will turn around and likely offer something containing Lou Marson.
If I'm the Phillies, I'm offering centering a package around Carrasco and Taylor, as Drabek is clearly the top prospect in the system and truly untouchable, while Dominic Brown is just underneath him.
Posted by: usctrojans31 | July 07, 2009 at 01:58 PM
philsWSchamps -
I'm a Jays fan and if I was them, I'd want talent that could come in and help within 1-2 years if not right away. Make no mistake that the Jays arent just blowing up their team. They will still have a good team in 2010 and could use some pieces to fill in for that. Also, the Jays need left side infield prospects for the future.
Without too much knowledge of the Phils farm system it does look like they match up.
Posted by: thenerbster | July 07, 2009 at 01:58 PM
philsWSchamps, who are the Phils top 5 prospects? If the Jays wanted to deal w/ the Phils (& provided Roy would want to play in Philly - 2 big stumbling blocks) than I imagine it would be for some combination of a teams best prospects.
The Jays lack high ceiling, near MLB ready players at 3B & SS. I imagine they might also ask for a teams best pitching prospect - dunno who that would be for Philly.
Posted by: deeselig | July 07, 2009 at 02:00 PM
morettiyankees
OK Yankee haters i believe the Yankees have a plethora of talent to offer AUSTIN JACKSON being the focal point of a possible Doc trade, and lets not forget that the Yankees are of the few teams who spend the majority of the income they accumulate right back into the team go yanks
Posted by: morettiyankees | July 07, 2009 at 02:02 PM
I don't believe people are talking about trading for Halladay and marking prospects as untouchable. Halladay is untouchable. You can only touch him with your own untouchables. If you're not willing to go that far, you don't want him enough.
Posted by: Torgen | July 07, 2009 at 02:16 PM
unfortunately 3B and SS isn't what we have. We have more pitchers and outfielders similar to what you have. Its a shame Donald didn't develop this year because he could have been involved. Marson is doing much better lately but not well enough to warrant Halladay I'm afraid.
I likewise agree it'll be tough for the Phils and Jays to make a deal based upon needs and what we both already have unless a third team could be added in to broker the deal?? Cubs 3B prospect Vitters??
Somehow I have a feeling I should consult a Cubs fan about how the Peavy situation has gone down over the last 1+ years and the frustrations they've had with trying to get a pitcher to put them over the top.
How about this:
Phils get Halladay
Cubs get Carrasco, Donald, Carpenter
Jays get Marson, Vitters, Happ,
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 02:16 PM
deeselig,
top 5 phils prospects IMO are:
1-Drabek (sp)
2-Dom Brown (OF)
3-Michael taylor (OF/DH)
4-Carrasco (SP)
5-Knapp (SP)
I'm not considering Happ a prospect anymore now that he's been in the majors for 1.5 years.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 02:19 PM
To: deeselig...
Some of the Phillies top prospects are:
OF Dominic Brown
OF Michael Taylor
OF John Mayberry
IF Jason Donald
C Lou Marson
SP Carlos Carrasco
SP Kyle Drabek
SP Jason Knapp
-Taylor is tearing up AA after doing well in high A last year.
-Brown is down in A ball now, as is Knapp.
-Marson and Mayberry have been shuttling between AAA and the big club.
-Carlos Carrasco has been their best pitching prospect recently, but his numbers this season are just OK.
-Donald is the possible SS/3B type the Jays need, but his value has come down a notch recently.
Also, I'm thinking that any of the OFs could be converted to 1B if the Jays wanted to go that route. (Taylor is my personal favorite of the three OFs, so I'm hoping they retain him)
Posted by: Haymaker | July 07, 2009 at 02:19 PM
Heyman is a Yankee shill. His coverage is so heavily slanted toward the Yankees he's losing credibility. On the young talent scale, the Yankees are far behind other teams that could trade for Doc: Phily, Boston, LA to name just a few have MUCH better talent than the Yanks in their farm system.
Posted by: PabloT | July 07, 2009 at 02:20 PM
I love how in the post "awesome collection of talent" is then immediately followed by naming the Yanks and Phils, 2 teams whose farm systems couldnt even get Matt Holliday at this point, let alone Roy Halladay.
Teams that have what the Jays are looking for:
TB
OAK
TEX
BOS
Thats like....IT. Jays are absolutely looking for a Haren-esque haul here and the phillies system is beyond pathetic. They would have to give them Howard or Utley to make it work, bottom line.
Posted by: PL | July 07, 2009 at 02:32 PM
The Phillies have too much payroll to take on Halladay. Can't afford him and give up a package of young players. They stole a decent pitcher for nothing last year in Blanton- its gonna take a fair deal to get Halladay.
Posted by: optionn | July 07, 2009 at 02:36 PM
The Phillies have too much payroll to take on Halladay. Can't afford him and give up a package of young players. They stole a decent pitcher for nothing last year in Blanton- its gonna take a fair deal to get Halladay.
Posted by: optionn | July 07, 2009 at 02:36 PM
1. I'd be really surprised to see Doc stay in the AL East
2. If he does end up on the Yankees then there needs to be some serious, serious, serious discussion about salary cap issues in MLB.
3. I'd love to see him on the Doyers but there's not a chance in hell of giving up Kershaw and Bills, so I know it wouldn't happen.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | July 07, 2009 at 02:37 PM
Phillies trade:
Dominic Brown, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, and Kyle Kendrick, Jason Knapp
to Toronto for:
Roy Halladay, Other Player (Scott Rolen? Haha)
This deal would give The Jays 3 of the top 5 prospects in Phillies system, another top prospect, and a potentially solid pitcher in Kendrick. It would also give the Phillies a Cy Young winning pitcher in Halladay.
Donald, shows promise, but with a middle infield with Utley and Rollins, he'll we fit into the Phillies roster. The Phillies shouldn't deal Michael Taylor or Kyle Drabek. Taylor is amazingly fast for his size (6'6", 250 lbs), he has power, and he has potential to be an all star outfielder. Drabek is a great young pitcher and shows that he can be great on the mound in the majors.
I threw in Rolen just for laughs (Former Phillies third basemen), but the more I think about it, Rolen can be the right handed bat of the bench, or switch off with Pedro Feliz at third. The Blue Jays might try and dump Rolen, he's aging and his injuries may prevent his abilities of playing the hot corner. He might be a better fit in the NL as a pinch hitter, but that is only my speculation. Get Roy and Scott would be a long shot, but hey, it could work.
Posted by: schilling | July 07, 2009 at 02:40 PM
You still have to consider Bastardo a Phils "prospect"...
A top one at that...
Drabek
Bastardo
Brown
Taylor
Marson
Mayberry
Carrasco
The Phils won't give two of Drabek, Bastardo or Brown... They'll give one of the three in a deal... I would think that Drabek is the only true untouchable...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 07, 2009 at 02:45 PM
PL,
the phils absolutely have the talent to get Halladay the problem is that its not the right talent at the right positions.
Pathetic is the wrong word especially when we're ranked in the top half of team rankings by most every publication and have stars in the making in Drabek, Brown, Taylor and Knapp.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Jays: Do not, I repeat do not trade the best pitcher in the AL. Wait until after the season is over and try to extend him beyond 2010. If he is willing to accept non-Boston/NY/Chi/LA money (15-20 Mil over 5-6 years), he is your top of the rotation guy on a team that can compete in the AL east with some tweaking. Trade Wells for some young guys, and eat some of the contract if you have to, but don't trade Halladay unless he insists on it...
Posted by: Redbird | July 07, 2009 at 02:53 PM
a) Why is a tweet by a lazy sports writer drawing this much hate from people? Just because some shmuck with a column says, thru his blackberry, that the Yanks, Phils and Angels are the frontrunners means nothing.
b) I seriously doubt that Cashman has had ANY discussion with the Jays about Halladay, nor do I think he needs to. Even with Wang on the DL (15 days people), the Yanks still have a very good rotation. After all Wang hasn't contributed much towards this season and the Yanks still have the 2nd best record in the AL, 1 game behind the Sox, who for whatever reason, have owned the Yanks this year. I'm sure the Yanks won't go 0-18 against them for the year.
c) No way, can I imagine the Jays trading Hallday to the Yanks, Sox or any other AL East team. I'm sure they don't want the constant reminder of trading away perhaps the most important player in their history. My take is that the Jays are considering this season a loss but they feel they have enough pitching to be contenders in the near future. I don't think they are conceeding the AL for the next 5 years, but simply dangling him to see how desperate teams are.
d) Can we stop hating on the Yanks please? Our system is no where as deep as others but to say that a deal consisting of Hughes, Monetero, Jackson and whoever else wouldn't be enough to get Halladay is moronic. Hughes is seen as a FOR on the verge of realizing his potential and Jakcson and Montero are two top 50 guys, and based upon their stats at higher levels (AAA/AA) I would think they will probably be top 25 this year. Obviously, Cahsman would be stupid to make a trade like that but I think that package matches up well with any other teams.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 02:56 PM
schilling
you have obviously not seen the Jays much or at all this year
yes, he could get hurt again, but scott rolen is back to the old scott rolen
quick wrists at he plate (he's on a 25 game hitting streak) and is gold gloving it at third
Posted by: crash | July 07, 2009 at 02:59 PM
I don't want to be overly critical but shouldn't we demand more from a writer than a 1 sentence blurb he wrote in between waiting for a hot dog on 42nd st and walking back to the office?
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Boston makes a lot of sense. They can get rid of Penny or Schmoltz. Masterson, Bard, Bowden, Reddick - the Jays would salivate at any of those young pitchers. Easily they could get Hallday if they wanted him.
Posted by: optionn | July 07, 2009 at 03:03 PM
yanksfan,
eww. dirty dogs! actually I think he's in Queens this week at WFAN's studios. Isn't he covering for Francessa this week?
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 03:07 PM
It's not the writer that should be damned...
He wrote the article based off of JP Riccardi's comments....
Wasn't it Riccardi that said they had to listen to offers ???
Frankly, the Jays put themselves into this mess when they signed Wells to that ridiculous contract... It's funny because he was nearly traded to the Phils... hahaha...
Every year we go through the same thing with Halladay... I'd be suprised if someone matched Toronto's asking price...
However, the Phils will probably come closer than ever before...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 07, 2009 at 03:09 PM
I forgot Buchholz too. The Red Sox could get Halladay so easily its not even funny.
Posted by: optionn | July 07, 2009 at 03:09 PM
"The Red Sox could get Halladay so easily its not even funny."
Any team in baseball could "get Halladay so easily...".
Dodgers could offer Clayton Kershaw and Matt Kemp.
Rays could offer BJ Upton and Wade Davis.
Giants could offer Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner.
Any of those packages would get it done.
Of course none of those packages would ever be offered, and neither will Buchholz.
Posted by: vtadave | July 07, 2009 at 03:12 PM
No one outside of NY cares about Phil Hughes anymore. He's 24 and hasnt shown his "ace potential" yet therefore he's closer to a failed prospect than a future star. He might end up a solid #3-4 on most teams but he's not worth any combination of prospects the yankees have, and it would take an absolute HAUL to trade within the division as well....aint happening.
Posted by: PL | July 07, 2009 at 03:16 PM
"The Phils won't give two of Drabek, Bastardo or Brown... They'll give one of the three in a deal... I would think that Drabek is the only true untouchable..."
Bastardo is not an elite prospect. Not even close. Drabek and Brown are, but Bastardo isn't. There are teams that have 3-4 better pitching prospects than Bastardo. It's going to cost two of Drabek/Taylor/Brown/Carrasco, and then others added in (possibly Happ).
"As mentioned months ago, I think the only way that Toronto gives up Halladay is in a package with V. Wells and his obnoxious contract."
I think the exact opposite. The Jays will get a lot more for Halladay if they deal him separately, and the trade should be about maximizing value for Doc, not trying to cut salary. Halladay is a MUCH better pitcher than Peavy who's numbers will inflate in the AL, its not even funny.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 07, 2009 at 03:16 PM
@optionn
"stole Blanton for nothing"
???
Delusional much? Josh Outman is ALREADY better than Blanton, or was until he got hurt, Cardenas is the #1 2B prospect in MLB, and Blanton has put up absolutely woeful numbers at home for Phily. Blantons current ERA+ is 92, he's a bad pitcher, straight up. Outman's was 117 and rising til he had to get TJ.
Bottom line, you dont trade a pitcher with a higher ceiling and the best 2B prospect in the land as well as another prospect for a mediocre middle of the rotation guy. Phils got hosed on that deal already, and its going to look worse when Cardenas comes up next year.
Posted by: PL | July 07, 2009 at 03:21 PM
"No one outside of NY cares about Phil Hughes anymore. He's 24 and hasnt shown his "ace potential" yet therefore he's closer to a failed prospect than a future star. He might end up a solid #3-4 on most teams but he's not worth any combination of prospects the yankees have, and it would take an absolute HAUL to trade within the division as well....aint happening."
And the winner of dumbest poster of the day goes to PL!!! CONGRATULATIONS!
Posted by: V | July 07, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Dang, its looking more and more like Doc will get traded with those two new quotes. JP is preparing his pitcher and his fanbase for a trade it seems.
Posted by: bbxxj | July 07, 2009 at 03:33 PM
My vote is he goes to the Angels in a deal based around Brandon Wood and a catcher, probably Hank Conger, plus couple single A pitchers.
The Angels need it more and they know that with Texas' deep farm system, the AL West is going to get much harder. PLus they are already having a harder time than they thought, and they have shown that they really don't want to give Wood a chance, so is going to be traded to enough. He's like Dallas MacPherson II. PLus Toronto has no SS after this year and could use a young catcher, just like everyone else.
Posted by: Kevinfoley46 | July 07, 2009 at 03:38 PM
Yankees this yankees that Doc for phil hughes okay who is gonna step in as the 8th inning guy and be effective unless chamberlain understands he is better off as a bullpen arm and a future closer he is not conditioned enough to be a starter. He is far more valuable as a bullpen guy the most he goes into a game is the 6th inning and ocassionally the 7th.
Posted by: AJ | July 07, 2009 at 03:40 PM
Yankees this yankees that Doc for phil hughes okay who is gonna step in as the 8th inning guy and be effective unless chamberlain understands he is better off as a bullpen arm and a future closer he is not conditioned enough to be a starter. He is far more valuable as a bullpen guy the most he goes into a game is the 6th inning and ocassionally the 7th.
Posted by: AJ | July 07, 2009 at 03:40 PM
"Yankees this yankees that Doc for phil hughes okay who is gonna step in as the 8th inning guy and be effective unless chamberlain understands he is better off as a bullpen arm and a future closer he is not conditioned enough to be a starter. He is far more valuable as a bullpen guy the most he goes into a game is the 6th inning and ocassionally the 7th."
My bad, PL. This guy wins.
Posted by: V | July 07, 2009 at 03:42 PM
Bottom line, you dont trade a pitcher with a higher ceiling and the best 2B prospect in the land as well as another prospect for a mediocre middle of the rotation guy. Phils got hosed on that deal already, and its going to look worse when Cardenas comes up next year.
Posted by: PL | July 07, 2009 at 03:21 PM
Is "hosed" code word for World Friggin Champion" or something? We don't win without Big Joe Blanton. Outman's good but he's an average starter at best and Cardenas may amount to something but he was being blocked by some kid named Utley so I doubt he would have seen the light of day. We tried to move him to SS but he didn't have the range at the time.
Sorry, I'll make the Blanton trade any day of the week if it gives us another championship.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | July 07, 2009 at 03:49 PM
It's pointless to have any discussion with almost anyone regarding Yanks. The article, or rather the "tweet" didn't say anything about anyone from the Yanks calling about Hallday. All the lazy writer wrote was that the Yanks would be a frontrunner which is what is said about just about every single player making more than $10 mil who hits the market.
Furthermore, Hughes is still considered a pitcher with tremendous upside regardless of what some people think. He's not being offered so it's a moot point. By the way he just turned 23.If you think he's garbage then cool. Not a problem.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 03:55 PM
@ melonis Rex...
That might be one of the craziest things i've heard in a while...
Look at Well's contract... It's backloaded so that in the first 2 years he was only payed 2 MM of his 126 MM... He is still owed 124MM on that attrocity of a deal...
Why would they try to deal two players, drive away suitors, get a quarter the bounty, deal your best asset in the org., and drive away the fan base essentially driving up the white flag...
Instead of, dealing your best asset for a major bounty that will help retool your org., help stabilize your financial situation, keep you competitive since you didn't deal your starting center fielder, and kept your fanbase intact with youthful talent being instilled into the org...
I understand trying to deal Wells... But, his value is too low... He may never have high value again... But, you can't package him with Halladay to try and dump salary... Your haul will be too low...
Posted by: allabouthephils | July 07, 2009 at 04:04 PM
"Of course none of those packages would ever be offered, and neither will Buchholz."
"I forgot Buchholz too. The Red Sox could get Halladay so easily its not even funny."
...
I know Buchholz is a good prospect, but he's getting a tad overrated. He's getting up there in age in terms of prospects. If Theo won't deal Buchholz in a package for Halladay, that's a problem. Although I hold my claim that Halladay isn't going anywhere in the AL East.
"My vote is he goes to the Angels in a deal based around Brandon Wood and a catcher, probably Hank Conger, plus couple single A pitchers."
LMAO. That's not even going to come close to getting Halladay. The only "elite" pitcher the Angels could deal for is Peavy this offseason, and I doubt he's elite when he moves to the AL.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM
"Masterson, Bard, Bowden, Reddick - the Jays would salivate at any of those young pitchers."
Reddick is an outfielder... not a pitcher.
All things considered, I'm betting Riccardi would much rather move Halladay to the National League. I gotta think the Brewers are a good darkhorse candidate... some deal around Escobar and Jeffers.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM
allaboutthephils-
I agree with you. Halladay should NOT be packaged with Wells. That would be an absolute stupid move by the Jays.
I was responding to the poster who said that packaging Wells with Halladay would be a good idea, hence I quoted their post.
Posted by: melonis rex | July 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Bard abd Bowden are good and yet overrated..
I seriously doubt the Jays would take the Sox deal unless it was their 1-5 and 9-10 top kids.
This thread reminds me of the Cubs/Peavy crap.
Roy Halladay is the best pitcher in the game..
He will require 6-7 kids..
Think Danny Haren from Oak plus some.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | July 07, 2009 at 04:26 PM
"All things considered, I'm betting Riccardi would much rather move Halladay to the National League. I gotta think the Brewers are a good darkhorse candidate... some deal around Escobar and Jeffers.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM "
Jefferies likes to smoke blunts. Hes gone for 100+
I really think the Brewers could offer Hardy, Hart, Gamel, Parra, Cain, and another pitcher to the Jays..
The Jays could deal Hart and Hardy(Scutaro) for kids.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | July 07, 2009 at 04:29 PM
I'm seeing two completely different takes on this Hallday situation.
a-Some posters are acting as if this is a salary dump situation. Never did I hear that the Jays were moving him because of payroll salary. Also, Halladay, while making a lot, is probably earning fair market value and many smaller market teams would look at him as a 1 1/2 year rental who could either be flipped again in 2010 or allowed to walk and draw 1st rnd pick compensation.
2-Posters, who more accurately, see this as an opportunity to dangle Halladay to see what teams would offer. If it's an overwhelming package of players who are mlb ready, such as a Hughes, Buccholz, Hanson, Colby Rasmus, Kyle Blanks type as opposed to a Heyward, Montero, insert your teams great single A prospect here type.
Even though the AL East is the most competitive division in baseball I really think they are looking to compete in 2010 or 2011. MLB ready players is what I think they are looking for.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Adding to that, since this IS NOT a salary dump and since Halladay is the equivalent to a one year $15 mil deal I think that opens the bidding up way past the usual NY/LA/Boston teams to at least 10 other franchizes as well.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 04:35 PM
How do these "experts" actually favour the Yankees as a destination?
1. there's NO CHANCE the Jays will trade him inside the division.
2. The Yankees dont have anything the Jays will want.
Thats that, plain and simple.
Posted by: xethicx | July 07, 2009 at 04:50 PM
I don't think there's any basis for them mentioning the Yanks, LA, etc as favorites other than the perception that Halladay's salary is prohibitive to teams which is not true at all. Yanks are thought to be in on everybody even though they may have ZIPPO in terms of insite from a front office person. You and I could "tweet" about teams which might be in on them.
Ken Rosenthal is suppose to be on MLB TV in the next few. WOuld love to hear what gar-bage he's spitting out today on the subect. I dare him....dare him to say he spoke to a Yankee source.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | July 07, 2009 at 05:03 PM
"Bard abd Bowden are good and yet overrated.. "
I'll grant Bowden is not an elite prospect. But he does have the potential to be a solid #3 arm. But Bard... how exactly is he overrated? He often hits 100 on the gun, has a decent collection of secondary pitches, great K stats, rapidly improving control and is already a better option than over half the closers out there. So I'd say the hype around him is well warranted.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 07, 2009 at 05:04 PM
PL,
if you have no idea what youre talking about, you probably should do some research before you post... otherwise you might say something idiotic like "the phillies couldnt acquire matt holliday let alone halladay." the phillies actually have a fairly good farm system, and if you dont think they could make a package for halladay that the jays would accept, im sorry but you just dont know anything about baseball and the trading market.
Posted by: mooNy | July 07, 2009 at 05:25 PM
WHOA,I'M SO GLAD THERE ARE SOMANY GENERAL MANAGERS OUT THERE, SWEARING HALLADAY WON'T BE TRADED..THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNTS SAYS YES, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.
SHOULD GO TO YANKS, A.J. BURNETT IS A CLOSE FRIEND...
THIS IS A TRADE, THE YANKEES ARE NOT BUYING ANTI YANK FANS.
SO SHUT UP!!!
YANKS HAVE:
CANO
CABRERRA
SWISHER
AUSTIN JACKSON
CHAMBERLAIN
WANG
AN UNDER RATED FARM SYSTEM..
GIT ER DONE
Posted by: Yanker | July 07, 2009 at 06:02 PM
If I was Ricciardi I would ask for Taylor, Carrasco, Drabek, and Brown. I know that seems like an astronomical amount... but think about it, with Doc...thats another guarunteed World Series appearance.
Posted by: s17 | July 07, 2009 at 06:18 PM
WHOA,I'M SO GLAD THERE ARE SOMANY GENERAL MANAGERS OUT THERE, SWEARING HALLADAY WON'T BE TRADED..THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNTS SAYS YES, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.
SHOULD GO TO YANKS, A.J. BURNETT IS A CLOSE FRIEND...
THIS IS A TRADE, THE YANKEES ARE NOT BUYING ANTI YANK FANS.
SO SHUT UP!!!
YANKS HAVE:
CANO
CABRERRA
SWISHER
AUSTIN JACKSON
CHAMBERLAIN
WANG
AN UNDER RATED FARM SYSTEM..
GIT ER DONE
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Seriously, learn where the caps lock key is you jack ass. But I will humor your crap with a reply.
CANO - Hill is better and cheaper
CABRERRA - No..
SWISHER - Seriously?
AUSTIN JACKSON - thatd be a START, where's the rest?
CHAMBERLAIN - yah after the jays scored 8 in 3.2 innings theyre going to trade Halladay for him... shut up
WANG - injured, too old and under performing.
Ok so,, WHERE here do you see a boatload of prospects? To trade Halladay inside the division, it is going to take WAY more than that. The only teams in the East that could make it happen are the Red Sox and Rays, the Yankees do not have even close to enough and I am honestly sitting here laughing pretty hard at the remote suggestions of players like Swisher and Cabrera for Halladay.
Posted by: xethicx | July 07, 2009 at 11:15 PM