Red Sox Acquire Victor Martinez

Fantastic! As long as it doesn't cost too much, I love it. I would have loved AGone more but SD wanted too much.

I don't think this does anything for the Red Sox. He's not a real difference maker. Is his production going to be more than Lowell's who he is replacing? I don't think it's that big of a difference. Maybe they aren't done dealing yet.

nice.

Not a Red Sox fan but love the pick-up. Even if it's Buccholz this is a great move.

Yeah, Cleveland is going to be GREAT in 2012. They are going to get a massive haul from the Red Sox on this deal. Can't wait to see who it is.

I hope Theo reads this and sees that V-Mart will not get them into the playoffs...they need Halladay or Adrian too

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! This sucks. I don't want v-mart. He's old, a terrible defender and slumping right now.

This mean laroche is gana be delt...poor guy goes from not being on a contending team, to a contending team now he prolly will be on a bad team again.

I'll be SHOCKED if the Indians got anybody decent. Seems to me this was a cost-cutting measure.

Heres the likely potential trade:

V-Mart and LaPorta to Boston

Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Anderson to Cleveland

V-Mart... Now, go for Halladay

Say bye bye to Buchholz, Boston fans.....

I hope Theo reads this and sees that V-Mart will not get them into the playoffs...they need Halladay or Adrian too

Posted by: sprtplyr999 | July 31, 2009 at 01:00 PM

Yeah, with a couple hours left until the trade deadline, Theo Epstein is scanning message boards instead of trying to make deals with other teams.

Shapiro > Ricciardi

While the Indians are competitive again in 2011, the Jays will just be getting their supplemental picks for Doc.

http://metsreport.com/mlb-2003-positive-steroid-test-list/

Lets make predictions:

Boston gets vmart

Cleveland get Bowden, Anderson.

Dude its FRICKEN TWITTER! im watching sportscenter right now..imma see idought this is right!!!...also fricken Bronson Arroyo just admitted to using steroids with the red sox in 2003. wow.

I don't think this does anything for the Red Sox. He's not a real difference maker. Is his production going to be more than Lowell's who he is replacing? I don't think it's that big of a difference. Maybe they aren't done dealing yet.

Posted by: RedSoxFreak85 | July 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Wouldn't he be replacing Ortiz before Lowell?
This is an amazing lineup!!

Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Youkilis, 1B
Bay, LF
Martinez, DH
Lowell, 3B
Drew, J, RF
Varitek, C
Lowrie, SS

I hope Theo reads this and sees that V-Mart will not get them into the playoffs...they need Halladay or Adrian too

Posted by: sprtplyr999 | July 31, 2009 at 01:00 PM

I can imagine this too. Theo, after consulting his vast scouting system, reams upon reams of reports, talking with his advisors and Shapiro, and meditating on this while staring at two WS rings, randomly decides to consult MLBTR comment sections JUST TO MAKE SURE.

Upon seeing your post, a light bulb goes on over his head. "He's ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! What was I THINKING?!"

You, good sir, have truly saved the Red Sox.

Anyway, this is a decent trade. It won't net them the division on its own but makes them a better team than they were before (depending on the price).

Heres the likely potential trade:

V-Mart and LaPorta to Boston

Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Anderson to Cleveland
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No way in hell thats the deal. lol

Maybe a move on Halladay could still happen... that would be nice.

Wow, I am kind of surprised. It really seemed like they might try to keep him.

Wonder what the package will look like. Boston get desperate and trade Buchholz + Bowden? Doubtful. But Buchholz & Anderson might be a possibility.

What a bloody joke. Theo is incompetent. A 31 year old former catcher is now our, what, 2nd out of 7 major league first basemen?

All of you talking about Westmoreland need to read up. He has clause in his contract saying the sox can't trade him. In fact he said when he got drafted he wouldn't sign with anyone but the sox.

its not gana take much to get c-mart because the sox rejected a v-mart for Buchholtz allready so its not gana take 2 really good prospects.

"Shapiro > Ricciardi"

After the Cliff Lee deal this is just ridiculous. He got fleeced.

They (Red Sox) already turned down Bucholz for Martinez. It's going to be a smaller deal, maybe with more players.

This is a smart move. The addition of VMart takes them until Mauer is a free agent, you bet your ass that was the thought process behind this move.

Has anyone noticed how V Mart has been playing this month? He batted .240 in June and .170 with 1 HR in July. Whatever the Indians got they won....

Wouldn't he be replacing Ortiz before Lowell?
This is an amazing lineup!!

Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Youkilis, 1B
Bay, LF
Martinez, DH
Lowell, 3B
Drew, J, RF
Varitek, C
Lowrie, SS
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clearly they intend to use him as a catcher. He would be taking Varitek stop in the line up. And that's IF they get him. I don't believe anything from twitter.

Shapiro HAS to get Buccholz or else he will be roasted again today in the local media. The fact that they came away w/ none of the blue chips that the Phillies were offering for Halladay has not gone over well here in Cleveland and Shapiro needs to hit a homerun here.

Why is anyone arguing about steroids? Who cares at this point? This is what we grew up with, I for one pretty much ignore it altogether, although even as a Sox fan, wish A-Rod wouldn't have been tainted so he could have a legitimate shot at Bonds's record*.

Off topic but of note:

Justin Duchscherer scratched from his AAA start today - perhaps merits a mention in the next catch-all post?

http://twitter.com/susanslusser/status/3054396061

Has anyone noticed how V Mart has been playing this month? He batted .240 in June and .170 with 1 HR in July. Whatever the Indians got they won....

Posted by: Bmart05 | July 31, 2009 at 01:10 PM

Go to baseball-reference. com.

Go to Victor Martinez's page.

Click on his 2009 game log.

Click May 22nd and then click July 30th.

This will bring you up a screen of his numbers since May 22nd.

Boston fans, hope you're happy with what you see.

Great move!! hes our catcher of the future!! Way better hitter than Tek and Kottaras!, As for the players in the trade im saying they are holding Buccholz back for a possible Adrian Gonzalez deal.!!

Where will they play him? Not a fan of this acquisition. Not happy... if we give up Buchholz, why not give up a little more and get Halladay?

Corey Brock mlb.com's Padres reporter just stated on MLB Network that he is also hearing that the Sox are close to acquiring V-Mart

Why do people think that Adrian Gonzalez is what we need?

We already have a logjam at the corners. Why do you think we didn't pick up Mark Teixeira, who we could have had for a few extra million and no prospects? What we need isn't a long term solution; we need a holdover until 2011 (AKA the dawning of the Joe Mauer era).

Victor Martinez has one ability that Adrian Gonzalez doesn't: he can play catcher. He gives us extreme flexibility in the infield, effectively providing us with a constant stream of pinch hitters.

Adrian Gonzalez gives us a more expensive and less effective Mark Teixeira. We already passed on that position. Why would we give up a commodity far more valuable than cash for that?

Theo: "Dude, you're not getting Buchholz for Victor. It's just not happening. However, we'll give you Bowden for him."

Shapiro: "Cha! As if. I'm holding out"

Theo: "Ok, here's the thing, we're going to throw the kitchen sink for AGonz, and that means we'll have no interest in Victor. If you want to hold out, that's cool. But I don't see many other buyers for Victor. So now that I mentioned, it, not Bowden. We'll give you Manny Delcarmen, and you'll accept it because you have no other options, and we do."

Shapiro: "Ok, fine. I hate you Theo."

Theo: "Go get your shinebox."

Joel Sherman says Clay Buccholz is involved and the Indians are getting more than 1 player back.

"I'm told if #RedSox need to flip LaRoche after getting V.Martinez that #Marlins are not interested"

http://twitter.com/ed_price

"Shapiro HAS to get Buccholz or else he will be roasted again today in the local media. The fact that they came away w/ none of the blue chips that the Phillies were offering for Halladay has not gone over well here in Cleveland and Shapiro needs to hit a homerun here."

Boston will NOT trade away one of their starters right now. Smoltz, Wake, and Penny in the 3-5 spot for the rest of the year is a downgrade...

They would have zero reason to include Buchholz in the deal.

NO!!!

I WANT ADRIAN!!! NO THEO NO!!YOU BETTER GET FRICKEN HALLADAY. MARTINEZ IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!

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AWWWW POOR BABY, your favourite team has TWO switch hitting catchers with 13 and 15 homeruns. Cry me a river.

Halladay is NOT HAPPENING and was never close to happening, Gonzalez would have ended up with the whole Pawtucket team ending up in San Diego.

Red Sox fans are so bloody spoiled. SLAP YOURSELF IN THE FACE and take a look their friggin roster. If youre seriously crying about the acquisition of a guy like Martinez you seriously have problems.

Varitek is old and expensive, when he is gone, you have Martinez to step in and become the every day catcher, please tell me how that is a bad thing for the Red Sox and their fans?

Posted by: xethicx | July 31, 2009 at 01:06 PM

Here's the issue with your post. It's very clear that you HATE the Red Sox because of their success.

Fine - but you don't have to be a dick about it.

I tend to agree with that poster - I think we could use another arm, rather than V-Mart.

VMart - hits Righties well but lefties poor
Tek - Hits righties poor but lefties better (albeit still not that well)
LaRoche - if he is not part of the deal, hits Righties well but lefties poor

Thus; the Sox improved 0 against left handed pitching and a good amount against right handed pitching.

What suprises me the most is all the comments for /or against this trade already when no one knows what the Sox gave up or what the Indians got in return.

For all we know the Sox did very well and gave up nothing; or vice versa.

Until we know though, its impossible to pass judgment.

the only thing to judge is; the Sox improved their lineup against Right Handed pitching.

Westmoreland has a clause in his contract that says he can go back to school if he is traded. So nobody is getting him.

Take a look:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=martivi01&t=b&year=2009&share=2.38#765-821-sum:batting_gamelogs

I doubt bucholz is involved i bet they r pulling the trigger on vmart now so they can include him in another deal for gonzo

THEY AREN'T GIVING UP BUCH FOR VMART. THE SOX ALREADY TURNED THAT OFFER DOWN YESTERDAY.

COME ON!

so if this trade goes down between indians and red sox what prospects think the indians will get? and will there be a third team involved? just wondering maybe you guys can give me some answers

"If it`s Buchholz`s so be it,but much more than that would suk!"

I don't think it will be Bucholz. For Lee maybe, but not V-Mart. V-Mart is hitting .284 this year and .278 last year. You don't give up Buch for that.

Posted by: Russell | July 31, 2009 at 01:08 PM

what are you talking about? Adrian Gonzalez is hitting .252 so there goes your ridiculously stupid logic.

OK, I say get A-Gon! Trade the prospects to the NL, not Cleveland.
I am in San Diego - A-GON! is the real deal...all that production with no protection!