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The Dodgers signed righty Vicente Padilla to a minor league contract on August 19th; he'd been designated for assignment by the Rangers. Padilla pitched well in 39.3 regular season innings and in two out of three postseason starts. According to Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti recently expressed interest in re-signing Padilla. The interest appears mutual.
Padilla's agent Adam Katz downplayed a recent "hunting accident" wherein the pitcher grazed himself in the thigh with a bullet. Padilla reportedly spent less than an hour being treated in a Nicaraguan hospital. Colletti told Hernandez he didn't know enough about the matter to determine whether it would affect his interest in re-signing Padilla. More troubling is Padilla's lengthy history of alcohol problems, but most MLB teams tend to ignore DUIs.
Padilla certainly won't be signing another three-year, $33.75MM deal. He might be able to get one year and $5-8MM. Aside from the Dodgers, the Brewers, Mets, and Diamondbacks are three clubs known to be hunting for starting pitching.
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"Padilla certainly won't be signing another three-year, $33.75MM deal. He might be able to get one year and $5-8MM. Aside from the Dodgers, the Brewers, Mets, and Diamondbacks are three clubs known to be hunting for starting pitching."
I can see Padilla getting an MLB rotation spot, but $5-8M seems a bit high.
This is a guy who hasn't posted an FIP below 4.25 since 2002, he's pitched 200 innings once in his career, and he has known character issues.
I can see someone giving him $2-3M plus incentives, maybe even $4-5M guaranteed from some desperate team, but $8M for Padilla would seem to be a mistake like his previous contract.
Posted by: scribbletone | November 04, 2009 at 09:24 AM
you mean the same guy that pulled a dick cheney on himself yesterday?
i wouldn't mind having him back with an incentive based contract, but i'd much rather see john lackey in dodger blue.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | November 04, 2009 at 09:28 AM
"Padilla's agent Adam Katz downplayed a recent "hunting accident""
"Aside from the Dodgers, the Brewers, Mets, and Diamondbacks are three clubs known to be hunting for starting pitching."
Nice use of irony.
Posted by: Nick0rz | November 04, 2009 at 09:50 AM
That's not what irony means.
Posted by: CitizenSnips | November 04, 2009 at 09:52 AM
That's not what irony means.
Posted by: CitizenSnips | November 04, 2009 at 09:52 AM
Couldn't think of the literary device that it was. Took a stab in the dark with it.
Mind filling me in?
Posted by: Nick0rz | November 04, 2009 at 09:53 AM
Is it a pun on words?
Posted by: Bernie Brewer | November 04, 2009 at 10:12 AM
The term hunting accident is in "scare quotes", if that's what you were referring to. Though I'm not sure it should be, unless Tim is implying it wasn't really a hunting accident.
Also I can't imagine the Mets going after Padilla unless its a Tim Redding type move for depth. The Mets need a strong #2, not another #4.
Posted by: Mule | November 04, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Oh, hunting for pitching, now I see it. I'd call it repetition, I don't know if there a technical term.
Posted by: Mule | November 04, 2009 at 10:20 AM
"Hunting for pitching" - not that I really care what the technical term is, but just consider it a play on words.
Anyway, $8 million guaranteed isn't happening obviously. I can see him back with the Dodgers for about half that, but even at that, if spending $4 million on a No. 5 starter only leaves $12 million for a John Lackey or Roy Halladay, I'd rather go cheap in that slot and dump more money into the No. 1 starter bucket.
Of course with the McCourts impending divorce, the whole offseason is up in the air.
Posted by: vtadave | November 04, 2009 at 10:25 AM
It's a pun, son.
Padilla probably isn't going to get a better offer from any team, then I'd say maybe $5 million tops, with incentives, from the Dodgers. They got Randy Wolf for that much last season and they probably won't see Padilla as being worth more than Wolf.
How much scratch Colletti will have to work with is the real open question.
Posted by: BlueSky | November 04, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Actually wasn't trying to make a pun, that was accidental. Maybe subconscious?
I only put hunting accident in quotes because Hernandez did, to portray that those were Katz's words. Could be clearer on my part.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | November 04, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Anything more than $4 million is too much, with incentives making the large portion of the contract.
Posted by: humannature | November 04, 2009 at 11:23 AM
"Actually wasn't trying to make a pun, that was accidental. Maybe subconscious?"
An autonomic pun. Never admit to anything else, is my policy.
When I read the Padilla story in the Times this morning I also took note of the words "hunting accident" in quotes. It seems somebody knows more but isn't going on the record. Just what the Dodgers need this postseason -- another plot line.
Posted by: BlueSky | November 04, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Yeah, I think the key to signing Padilla is incentives. He's probably one guy who would respond to a carrot-and-stick approach, maybe force him to keep his head on straight for a length of time. There's too much evidence that he'll not respond well to guaranteed money.
Posted by: pageian | November 04, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Peter Pascarelli on ESPN's podcast, quoting an unnamed MLB exec: "Vincente Padilla is either drunk or stupid 24 hours aday."
Posted by: Monroe Says | November 04, 2009 at 11:44 AM
I keep thinking that 5MM sounds like a bargain for padilla when the brewers have a 6 million dollar option for looper that they are considering exercising.
id love to see the brewers sign padilla for 3MM guaranteed and up to 3MM in bonuses, then structure it like the saito contract so theres an option for the next season at whatever he earned in the previous.
Posted by: jmag043 | November 04, 2009 at 11:46 AM
"Peter Pascarelli on ESPN's podcast, quoting an unnamed MLB exec: "Vincente Padilla is either drunk or stupid 24 hours aday."
Lol, that's funny but sad in a way. the guy has talent, if he just had the drive to match he could be a top of the rotation starter year in and year out.
Posted by: pageian | November 04, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Anything above a couple million will be a huge mistake.
People need to realize that there is more to pitching than just "stuff". Padilla is chump. Everywhere he goes teams are more than happy to rid themselves of him.
There's only a few other players that really fall into this category - where their on the field contribution is completely outweighed by what they do in the clubhouse and away from the team.
Posted by: bjsguess | November 04, 2009 at 12:30 PM
In other news, Rangers owner Tom Hicks attempted to cross the border into the US with a hunting rifle. When questioned by the police Hicks kept repeating he wanted his money back.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | November 04, 2009 at 12:46 PM
5-8 is too much.
A base of 3 with incentives that could double it sounds more likely.
Posted by: Kinsm | November 04, 2009 at 12:53 PM
"5-8 is too much.
A base of 3 with incentives that could double it sounds more likely.
Posted by: Kinsm | November 04, 2009 at 12:53 PM"
3 million dollars. nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | November 04, 2009 at 01:23 PM
According to PSD he just shot himself in the leg. Not good.
Posted by: Kinsm | November 04, 2009 at 01:23 PM
Sorry folks, I'm behind in the news.
Posted by: Kinsm | November 04, 2009 at 01:25 PM
If the Dodgers offer him arbitration, is the 20% reduction applicable to what the Dodgers paid or to what he made all of last season.
Posted by: GScott | November 04, 2009 at 01:53 PM
When the dodgers picked him up last year it was a smart move. right now i wouldnt take him for more than 3-5m but i would rather resign randy wolf.Wolf had a 3.23 era and a 1.10 whip all year while padilla posted 4.33 era 1.43 whip. wolf 214ip padilla 147ip. and they will be close to the same price.then sign lackey. and you have.
1.lackey
2.kershaw
3.bills
4.wolf
5.kuroda
that sounds good and we could still have garland if we excersize his option for a sixth starter or long reliever.
Posted by: march9 | November 04, 2009 at 02:21 PM
There was a rumor on memoriesofkevinmalone.com that the body guard shot him, not Padilla himself. Either way, its pretty sad...
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | November 04, 2009 at 03:36 PM
Padilla needs a bodyguard?
Posted by: BlueSky | November 04, 2009 at 04:06 PM
http://diamondleung.tumblr.com/post/232339764/reports-dodgers-pitcher-vicente-padilla-shot-in-leg
from Diamond Leung, but I saw it on MOKM
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | November 04, 2009 at 04:46 PM
Actually it was a ,wink-wink, escort!
Posted by: Red Sox Dynasty | November 04, 2009 at 04:53 PM
I dont think an 'escort' would take on Vicente lol
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | November 04, 2009 at 05:21 PM
Well, at least this one did not have his "friends" take a machette to someone...apparently he only shot himself. Anyone know where Ms. McCourtCo was at the time of the shooting? Could have been practice...heck, while we'er at it anyone know where Mr. McCourtCo was at the time?
Posted by: grumpy3b | November 04, 2009 at 06:53 PM
This was in Nicaragua... McCourt was probably in LA or Bos...
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | November 04, 2009 at 07:33 PM