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Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports talked to Pedro Martinez's agent Fern Cuza, who said his client will pitch next year and wants to be with a team for the start of Spring Training.
Cuza told Morosi Martinez would consider going back to the Phillies, but the agent wouldn't comment on other possible destinations. Morosi notes that Pedro referenced the Dodgers and Cubs as teams that had been in the mix during the summer.
Pedro is still a big name, and he certainly has something left in the tank. On the other hand, he's 38 years old. He pitched a total of 74 innings this year and 109 in '08. A multiyear deal seems unlikely, as does topping John Smoltz's $5.5MM guarantee from last year. I can see Martinez remaining unsigned until February or March.
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How about bringing him to the yankees? Should be fun watching him playing for his daddys
Posted by: yankees#28 | November 16, 2009 at 05:05 PM
Yeah...I doubt he would play for the Yank's.
A return to the Dodger's would be nice. Plus, he would be pitching in the West, as opposed to the N.L East. I'm sure he would love it. The Dodger's might even get a home-town-discount.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | November 16, 2009 at 05:17 PM
Dear Ned Coletti
Stay away. It kind of worked with Manny.
It didn't work with Pedro's brother. It didn't work with Nomar, Alomar, Maddux, Kent, Jones, Gonzalez, Sweeney, Ausmus, or David Wells either.
We don't need any over-the-hill all-stars.
Stay young.
Thanks,
Dodger Fans
Posted by: ThinkBlue | November 16, 2009 at 05:19 PM
Just a thought...If stars align...Pedro gives Philly a discount for "rejuvinating" him...and the Phills pull off a trade for Doc !
Rotation of :
Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Martinez
Happ (should have been R.O.Y)
Still got Blanton hangin around there...
Could be bad news for Braves, and Mets Fans
Posted by: DipSpit | November 16, 2009 at 05:22 PM
Pedro would be a lot more effictive if he only pitched the 2nd half of the season but I am sure someone will bite and offer him a 1 year deal and he will be pitching for the whole year.
Posted by: redsox22 | November 16, 2009 at 05:23 PM
do people still really think that overall the NL East is better than the NL West?
Posted by: ThinkBlue | November 16, 2009 at 05:23 PM
Offense wise, yes.
The Dodger's being the exception, as Pedro would be pitching for them.
Posted by: Tomahawk368 | November 16, 2009 at 05:25 PM
"It didn't work with Pedro's brother. It didn't work with Nomar, Alomar, Maddux, Kent, Jones, Gonzalez, Sweeney, Ausmus, or David Wells either."
Some of those guys it didn't work for---at all. For some, they got about what they expected, as in Ausmus, Wells, Maddux (the first time) and to some extent, Kent and Nomar. The epic disappontments of Jones, and to a lesser degree, Gonzales, offset the moderate gambles of the rest on that list (and of those not mentioned, Lieberthal, Loretta a few others were just about what you'd expect). Ausmus? he probably was even a plus of what they expected.
Posted by: abcrazy4dodgers | November 16, 2009 at 05:37 PM
ThinkBlue
You got beat in consecutive years by the NL East, so on that point Yes. The Phils are obviously the class of the entire NL and Maybe Major League Baseball overall. The Nationals offense is comparable to anyone in that division. They only need pitching.The Marlins are two veterans from really competing with the ENTIRE NL. The Braves need one or two bats and The Mets, while I hate them, can be potent if everyone is clicking.
Posted by: beastofNLEast | November 16, 2009 at 05:38 PM
Yes, Happ pitched well this year, but don't take anythign away from Coghlan...he had a fantastic year.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Put together an allstar team of NL East and NL West and see who wins...
I personally think the NL East comes out on top in this one...but, the NL West has some young guns that are still emerging.
In five years, the NL West could an NL Allstar team (Sandoval, Kemp, Ethier, Lincecum, Cain, Carlos Gonzales, Ianetta, Posey, Upton, Reynolds, AGonz (who will be gone), Kershaw, Billingsley, etc...they have a lot of young talent.)
This was the NL East 3 years ago and see where it has got them...
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 05:49 PM
angels or dodgers most likely
Posted by: Blake Einhorn | November 16, 2009 at 05:58 PM
I'm confused as to how the Phillies beating the Dodgers equates to the entire NL East being better than the entire NL West.
4/5 NL West teams had winning records against NL East teams this year.
Just because the Phillies are better than the Dodgers, doesn't mean the entire division is better.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | November 16, 2009 at 06:04 PM
beastofNLEast : "The Phils are obviously the class of the entire NL and Maybe Major League Baseball overall".
I really hope you are kidding.
Posted by: yankees#28 | November 16, 2009 at 06:07 PM
I'm a Phillies fan (obviously) and I agree. I'm not so sure the Phils are that much better than the Dodgers...I really enjoy watching the Dodgers and their OF (mainly Kemp and Ethier).
The Mets are better than what they were last year (but I'm not sure if they are better than San Fran if they sign an impact bat). The Rox and Marlins are similar, but the Rockies are a better team. And the Braves are better than any team in the West not named the Dodgers or Rockies.
It's close, but then again...we do have the Nationals and you do have the Padres. The true question is what team is worse, lol. I'm think the Pads are worse than the Nats, but it's close.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 06:08 PM
Statistically, over the last two years the Phillies have made a case for the best team in baseball, Yankees#28.
While I agree that the Yankees are clearly the better team as of now, if the Phils make it to the series again next year that arguement can't be just thrown out (win or lose).
But, once again, it's going to be really tough to beat the Yanks, cuz they are only going to get better this offseason and they were already an amazing talent. I have to say, it was a lot of fun watching them battle even though it didn't turn out so well for my Phils.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 06:13 PM
How about bringing him to the yankees? Should be fun watching him playing for his daddys
Posted by: yankees#28 | November 16, 2009 at 05:05 PM
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You're kidding, right? The Yankees don't need another old pitcher as they've got one already in Pettitte, who is a lot more dependable than Pedro at this point. They need some stability and reliability with their remaining pitching spots.
What WOULD be fun would be the Red Sox signing him so the Yankees can beat him more often.
And I do consider the Phillies the NL team to beat, especially since obtaining Lee. Back to back WS appearances aren't easy to do. As good as the Dodgers and Cardinals are, they haven't been able to do it, let alone get to the WS (Dodgers).
Back to the Yankees, if they can get some decent back-end rotation help (resign Andy) and keep/replace Matsui/Damon's production, they'll be back again.
Posted by: InvalidUserID | November 16, 2009 at 06:22 PM
I'm pretty sure the Yanks will be back again. Unless, the Red Sox can nab Halladay and AGoz/Holliday/Bay (one of them, not all), I think they take the division by atleast 3 games.
Sorry Sox fans, I'm rooting for ya.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 06:27 PM
It's close, but then again...we do have the Nationals and you do have the Padres. The true question is what team is worse, lol. I'm think the Pads are worse than the Nats, but it's close.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 06:08 PM
It's actually not close at all. You may have missed it, but the Padres finished with 75 wins last season. That puts them at 12 games under .500 compared to the Nats' 44 games under. The Pads had a very good August and September.
Posted by: Jason F | November 16, 2009 at 06:32 PM
I'm pretty sure the Yanks will be back again. Unless, the Red Sox can nab Halladay and AGoz/Holliday/Bay (one of them, not all), I think they take the division by atleast 3 games.
Sorry Sox fans, I'm rooting for ya.
Posted by: ChasenWerth | November 16, 2009 at 06:27 PM
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You can rule out the Sox getting Halladay AND AGon as no team has that much prospect talent, even the Sox. I think the Sox need AGon more than they do Halladay.
I wouldn't put it past the Yankees to crash the party and try to grab another marquee name this winter but I'm guessing they are going to do what they did similar to the whole Santana deal: wait for better opportunities (see 2011 FA list).
Posted by: InvalidUserID | November 16, 2009 at 06:33 PM
Dont mean to take anything away from Coghlan...he did have a fine Rookie season...Im not aginst Coghlan, Just Pro Happ...there were times (I thought) before the Lee deal, when Hamels was struggling, that Happ was the best pitcher in that rotation...and unlike Hanson, Happ was up and on that staff most of the year. For a two month span(once again pre Lee trade) if you take J.A. out of that rotation...the NL East may look alot different...Just wanted to give the man some love. I never understand R.O.Y. voting, this year made me think back to the Chipper Jones / Hideo Nomo decision. In no way am I comparing Coghlan to Chipper or Happ to Nomo...But I definatly tought Chipper was a shoe in that year, and thought Happ would get more attention this year, he was a big part of gettin his team to the W.S.
Posted by: DipSpit | November 16, 2009 at 06:46 PM
he can "eye" whatever he wants, but if he cantstay healthy all year, it all goes for naught
Posted by: shamrockyoass | November 16, 2009 at 06:50 PM
OK lets compare rosters here:
First base: Howard (east) Agon(west): slight advantage east
second base: Utley (east)doesn't matter for the west advantage east
SS: Hanley(east) Tulo (west) advantage east
3rd this tough for me between Zimmerman and wright but either way its better than Reynolds advantage east
RF: Upton vs Werth this is a tough one extremely slight edge to Upton
CF Beltran vs. Kemp Edge Beltran
LF:Manny vs. Ibanez edge Manny
SP Timmy vs Johan. I dont know who wins this match up you can go with Johan more Cy young's longer more productive career.
closers:Broxton vs Krod. well we all know what happens to broxton in big games just ask stairs and jroll. advantage east
overall the east would beat down the west hands down.
beastofNLEast : "The Phils are obviously the class of the entire NL and Maybe Major League Baseball overall".
I really hope you are kidding.
They are the second best team in baseball. i hope your not kidding.
Posted by: derman1984 | November 16, 2009 at 08:00 PM
You would really take Beltran over Kemp at this point? Salary issues and contract aside, the Dodgers would laugh at dealimg Kemp for Beltran.
Re: Broxton in "big games" - I guess we'll never know how K-Rod in the NL East would fare in similar situations considering it's the Mets we're talking about here.
Santana > Lincecum? Really?
Posted by: vtadave | November 16, 2009 at 08:26 PM
I thought the Phillies made it pretty clear that they are much better than the dodgers when they beat them in 5 games the last two NLCS series.
Posted by: phillyphan | November 16, 2009 at 09:26 PM
nobody's denying that the phillies are better than the dodgers. that doesn't make the NL East a tougher division than the NL West, though.
Posted by: ThinkBlue | November 16, 2009 at 09:42 PM
i personally wouldnt objet to the cardinals signing pedro to a one year deal, while a couple of their young pitchers develop. more so if they can't resign pineiro. the only objection would be if they resign smoltz. either one would be a decent number 4 or 5 starter, at least in my opinion
Posted by: The Velvet Tomahawk | November 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM