Matt Holliday, Cardinals Could Agree This Week

10:06pm: Cardinals' manager Tony La Russa says that any deal should be finalized this week, according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The piece offers plenty of detail about this past weekend's negotiations, which have left the Cardinals with "a sense of optimism" regarding Holliday.

5:30pm: Sources tell ESPN.com's Buster Olney that the Cardinals and Holliday "are close to a deal."

12:35pm: It's been suggested that the Cardinals have offered multiple contract scenarios to Holliday.  One might have been seven years and $112MM, according to SI's Jon Heyman.  Also, Heyman talked to one source who believes the Orioles are "laying in the weeds" despite recent denials.

Meanwhile, Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch offers his take, in which he notes that silence from Cards GM John Mozeliak might be a positive sign.

8:30am: A Friday tweet by Cardinals manager Tony La Russa had some fans wondering if a Matt Holliday signing was imminent, but Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch contacted La Russa to get an explanation exceeding 140 characters.  La Russa explained to Goold:

"We're getting ready to move.  I know they’ve been talking a lot with Matt. I know we have a really smart Plan B…(It) could be on Plan A, or it could be our Plan B. The point is, we're not going to get stuck."

La Russa told Goold he was not referring specifically to Holliday with his "Soon the Cards will be smart too" tweet.  However, Goold did learn from one source that there could be a Holliday resolution this week.  Goold speculated that of the various packages offered to the slugger, six or seven years with a guarantee over $100MM might do the trick.  Tracy Ringolsby of FOX Sports suggested on Wednesday that Holliday aims to top the $18MM average annual salary he passed up from the Rockies in '08.  It will be interesting to see how high the Cardinals are willing to go given the lack of a clear second suitor for Holliday.


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236 Comments on "Matt Holliday, Cardinals Could Agree This Week"


WillieMaysField
5 years 7 months ago

I’m for the players getting the money over the owners, but man they sound so greedy sometimes 17M is not enough got to have 18M.

5 years 7 months ago

i have a feeling Plan B might be Johnny Damon.

5 years 7 months ago

I agree that it’s probably Damon but also would include another signing or two.

Something like Damon plus Orlando Hudson and re-signing Smoltz so that the $18M they’d have spent on Holliday would be spread out amongst them.

5 years 7 months ago

It’s not going to be Hudson cause they repepated Skip is their second baseman and they would not move him after the job he did and all the hard work that came with it. I don’t like the Smoltz idea either because he just came off of his worst year, he’s one year older and the Cards already said they don’t want to put money into injury plagued players. The Damon idea I could go along with though.

5 years 7 months ago

It’s not going to be Hudson cause they repepated Skip is their second baseman and they would not move him after the job he did and all the hard work that came with it. I don’t like the Smoltz idea either because he just came off of his worst year, he’s one year older and the Cards already said they don’t want to put money into injury plagued players. The Damon idea I could go along with though.

drumzalicious
5 years 7 months ago

their plan B is most likely a trade. Maybe pluck Luke Scott from the Orioles and play him in LF? Another possibility would be Dan Uggla from the Marlins

drumzalicious
5 years 7 months ago

their plan B is most likely a trade. Maybe pluck Luke Scott from the Orioles and play him in LF? Another possibility would be Dan Uggla from the Marlins

Latrappe
5 years 7 months ago

I wonder how Albert will cost if they give Holliday 18 per…

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 7 months ago

Think ARod money… that would be probably be his discounted price.

5 years 7 months ago

35 mill

Suzysman
5 years 7 months ago

If the Cards are smart, they will front-load Holliday’s deal and Back-load Alberts – that way they can probably afford them both without extreme difficulty. Like say they give Holliday 7/112 like it says above. Then give Pujols 7/157 (average 22.4 per starting in 2012) Break the two down like thisHolliday 19 (10), 18 (11), 17 (12), 16 (13), 15 (14), 14 (15), 13 (16)A.Pujols 16 (10), 16 (11), 19 (12), 20 (13), 21 (14), 22 (15), 23 (16), 25 (17), 27 (18)That way between 2010 and 2016 they would be paying the two between 34 and 36 MM combined each year instead of the two gradually becoming expensive to the point they wouldnt be able to coexist on the same club.

fdfcosta
5 years 7 months ago

Pujols will be offered 30+ mil per from Boston!!!!

Suzysman
5 years 7 months ago

Not if he is never a FA he wont.

jayjay67
5 years 7 months ago

The longer Holliday takes to sign the more chance that the Red Sox or the Yankess will decide to step in and overspend. I feel he will always resign with the Cards though as he was happy there with Albert.His biggest problem isn’t who he signs for, however, it is that he chose Scott Boras as his agent. Not only has he destroyed some teams hopes over the last few years with his own greed, but he is ruining some players careers with his greed.Mlb doesn’t need to put a salary cap on teams, they just need to get rid of renegade greedy agents. Create a centralised players agency as part of a players union and everyone will receive equal representation.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

Nobody forces GMs to cave to Boras and his clients. It is just simple supply and demand that works itself out.

BravesRed
5 years 7 months ago

The job of an agent is to get their client as much money as possible, and Boras does that. If Boras wasn’t doing his job, he wouldn’t have so many clients. So, only person at fault in this is Holliday, since he chose Boras. Don’t get mad at Boras for doing his job.

akbled
5 years 7 months ago

No, the job of an agent is to get their client the best “deal” possible. Generally this is measured by $$, but not solely. This is something that Scott Boras doesn’t comprende, as agents don’t get 10% of opt-out and no trade clauses.

kcjones21
5 years 7 months ago

i highly doubt the sox stepping in, theo doesnt like giving that many years to anyone and on top of that, a signing like this would throw them over the luxury tax. unless the sox plan on throwing ells in a blockbuster for a cabrera/gonzolez type deal (i hope not), i see no reason for us to go after holliday.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Theo gave 5 years to Drew, he had 7 years on the table for Teixeira, and he gave 5 years to a pitcher who missed time the last two seasons due to elbow issues. So I dont buy that he would give X amount of years to anyone, he’ll give it to the guys that he wants.

kcjones21
5 years 7 months ago

how many 5+ year contracts has he given out since drew’s? the only one i can think of is lackey, who is a top of rotation guy… he had 7 years on the table for texiera because he fit into the redsox mold and had been coveted by them for many years. also notice that they didnt bend from the offer they had on the table to tex, just as they won’t bend for this offer to holliday that they had originally gave. the sox already offered him 5, i just dont see them in a bidding war with anyone for him especially for 7-8 years as he wants.

kcjones21
5 years 7 months ago

how many 5+ year contracts has he given out since drew’s? the only one i can think of is lackey, who is a top of rotation guy… he had 7 years on the table for texiera because he fit into the redsox mold and had been coveted by them for many years. also notice that they didnt bend from the offer they had on the table to tex, just as they won’t bend for this offer to holliday that they had originally gave. the sox already offered him 5, i just dont see them in a bidding war with anyone for him especially for 7-8 years as he wants.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Theo gave 5 years to Drew, he had 7 years on the table for Teixeira, and he gave 5 years to a pitcher who missed time the last two seasons due to elbow issues. So I dont buy that he would give X amount of years to anyone, he’ll give it to the guys that he wants.

5 years 7 months ago

Don’t give him too much, Matt isn’t going to miss the season just because he wants big money. Give him 16 million, and then sign Beltre. The Dominican Dominance at the corner infield positions for the Cardinals would be awesome.

chicubs25
5 years 7 months ago

It is obvious that he has no other option but the Cardinals, so I don’t get why they would increase their offer. Its the dodgers/manny issue all over again. If they sign Holliday for 18 mil and Pujols for 20 mil, they will have a very good 3,4 for years to come.

bbxxj
5 years 7 months ago

Odd as it may sound, investing 38M in two players really isn’t that bad of an idea as long as they are the right players.

Doing that the Cards would have about 50M or a bit more to play with and that would be plenty to field a couple aces and then surround the core with solid role players and regulars like Ryan and Schumaker while trying to develop a cheap young stud like Rasmus.

The Marlins are competitve with less than a 50m dollar payroll and just immagine where they would be if you gave them Pujols and Holliday for free.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

I dont see how it can work with only a 90m payroll.
38m to Pujols and Holliday
32m (roughly) to Carpenter, Lohse, Wainwright over the next 3 seasons
That leaves you 20m to spend on 20 other players (not to mention the 7.5m gave to Penny), so you have to get 19 other guys for 13.5m?

chicubs25
5 years 7 months ago

Actually, the Cardinals payroll is already 87Mil for 2010, so if they sign Holliday for 18Mil, they would be at 105 Mil. There 2009 payroll was 88 Mil, and they have never had over 100 Mil. It would be a first for them. But definately worth it in my opinion.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Give them a budget of 100m then; they would have 70m invested in 5 players (if Holliday signs) over the next few years. Thats 30m left to cover 20 guys.

roebirds
5 years 7 months ago

Yes, but that’s 5 really good players with enough left over to spend about what the Marlins or Pirates do on their whole team.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Except Ludwick and Schumaker are getting raises in arbitraton this year, and Molina is due 4m, Franklin is due 2m, and Reyes is due 2m. So that lowers your budget even more

cardinalsincontentionagain
5 years 7 months ago

The cardinals will be going in the $120m range once Albert signs his life time commitment. This is still well within 50-60% of revenue margins. Investors are happy their turning a 20-23 % after taxes and the team looks Very attractive for years to come. Not just in batting but pitching as well.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Give them a budget of 100m then; they would have 70m invested in 5 players (if Holliday signs) over the next few years. Thats 30m left to cover 20 guys.

chicubs25
5 years 7 months ago

Actually, the Cardinals payroll is already 87Mil for 2010, so if they sign Holliday for 18Mil, they would be at 105 Mil. There 2009 payroll was 88 Mil, and they have never had over 100 Mil. It would be a first for them. But definately worth it in my opinion.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

I dont see how it can work with only a 90m payroll.
38m to Pujols and Holliday
32m (roughly) to Carpenter, Lohse, Wainwright over the next 3 seasons
That leaves you 20m to spend on 20 other players (not to mention the 7.5m gave to Penny), so you have to get 19 other guys for 13.5m?

tatemc
5 years 7 months ago

Been thinking this same thing for a while. I’m a Cards fan and in the case of Pujols and Holiday I don’t mind spending 50 million.

tatemc
5 years 7 months ago

Been thinking this same thing for a while. I’m a Cards fan and in the case of Pujols and Holiday I don’t mind spending 50 million.

Mercury99
5 years 7 months ago

I wonder if the Cards will regret a 6 or 7 year deal, like the Cubs do Soriano’s

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

Cards wouldn’t be making that offer to a player like soriano. The cards trade for players first before signing them to extensions so they can verify their work ethic. They wouldn’t be offering Holliday the kind of money he’s getting if they didn’t trust that he was going to continue working hard after he gets his money. Soriano is exactly the kind of player you don’t give a long deal to, by all signs so far I think Holliday seems to be the type worthy of it.

bjsguess
5 years 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure that Soriano’s problem has NEVER been work ethic. Unfortunately, he has simply suffered from diminishing skills. That is something that the Cardinals are just as susceptible to experiencing as the Cubs.

5 years 7 months ago

Exactly right. Soriano’s contract may not be a fan favorite but he follows his off-season conditioning, always shows up to spring training in top shape and never has a bad attitude.

bjsguess
5 years 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure that Soriano’s problem has NEVER been work ethic. Unfortunately, he has simply suffered from diminishing skills. That is something that the Cardinals are just as susceptible to experiencing as the Cubs.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

Cards wouldn’t be making that offer to a player like soriano. The cards trade for players first before signing them to extensions so they can verify their work ethic. They wouldn’t be offering Holliday the kind of money he’s getting if they didn’t trust that he was going to continue working hard after he gets his money. Soriano is exactly the kind of player you don’t give a long deal to, by all signs so far I think Holliday seems to be the type worthy of it.

5 years 7 months ago

Well duh…the Yankees are going to sign him. LOL.

Latrappe
5 years 7 months ago

Boras still a ” high end ” agent he doesn’t look very good in this off-season…

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

He lost his charm with old players; but if you’re a draft pick or a good FA at 26-30 then he’s still your best bet to get the most money.

melonis_rex
5 years 7 months ago

Right now, the money is in the draft picks. He’ll get an elite draft pick big money by holding teams over. Not including Strasburg, look at the money he got Ackley, Tate, Green, Turner, and several others. Boras is still an elite.

Boras can’t work contrary to the market. Nobody can. Right now, there isn’t an individual agent that can get older vets the type of money they got in the past.

And its not Boras’s fault that the Mets massively overpaid an inferior player in Bay.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

“Right now, there isn’t an individual agent that can get older vets the type of money they got in the past.”

Those older veterans, Damon-type players, can still get 4-5m in FA, which is still more than the majority of the draft picks. The money is still in good FAs, the % he took from ARod’s and Texiera’s contracts are probably more than he took from all his players who got drafted those 2 years.

melonis_rex
5 years 7 months ago

Right now, the money is in the draft picks. He’ll get an elite draft pick big money by holding teams over. Not including Strasburg, look at the money he got Ackley, Tate, Green, Turner, and several others. Boras is still an elite.

Boras can’t work contrary to the market. Nobody can. Right now, there isn’t an individual agent that can get older vets the type of money they got in the past.

And its not Boras’s fault that the Mets massively overpaid an inferior player in Bay.

Jiujitsu411420
5 years 7 months ago

If the cards miss out on Holliday I really think that things ard gonna get ugly in the Pujols negotiations. I’m not sure if any of the remaining free agents are gonna be the 1 that makes pitchers wanna throw strikes to Albert

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

Sounds like a Johnny Damon type scenario is coming up. He is the best all around player (defense kind of dipping though), left on the open market. Unless of course the Cards are thinking a trade?

Patrick
5 years 7 months ago

Best chance for Holliday to get more than $18MM is if the Cubs can move some salary and get in on the Holliday bidding in an effort to begin looking to 2011 and beyond. If the Cardinals are the only player Boras is going to lose this one.

5 years 7 months ago

I respectfully disagree, Patrick. I think the Cards are aiming high for a reason: Pujols. Winning another WS now would accomplish two things: cement in Pujols’ mind that ownership is committed to winning and provide the influx of cash they need to sign Pujols to a long-term extension. For those reasons, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them give Holliday a deal richer than most of us feel he deserves, and I suspect Boras knows this as well as anyone.

Patrick
5 years 7 months ago

I don’t see how paying more for Holliday is going to cement anything in regards to Pujols. Pujols is going to either make a totally unexpected sweet heart home town deal move or he is going to blow Alex Rodriquez contract out of the water. Assuming the latter is more likely and his contract amounts to $30MM a year, I don’t see where the Cardinals end up putting roughly 40-45% of their team salary into two players. Especially as Holliday’s numbers indicate he is completely replaceable. The Cardinals need not over play their hand right now, between fall of 2010 free agents and their ability to make deals they are in a much better spot with both players in terms of options.

Patrick
5 years 7 months ago

I don’t see how paying more for Holliday is going to cement anything in regards to Pujols. Pujols is going to either make a totally unexpected sweet heart home town deal move or he is going to blow Alex Rodriquez contract out of the water. Assuming the latter is more likely and his contract amounts to $30MM a year, I don’t see where the Cardinals end up putting roughly 40-45% of their team salary into two players. Especially as Holliday’s numbers indicate he is completely replaceable. The Cardinals need not over play their hand right now, between fall of 2010 free agents and their ability to make deals they are in a much better spot with both players in terms of options.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

Pujols has said that the most important thing to him is the teams commitment to winning not chasing every dollar. Signing holliday shows Pujols that the cards are committed to winning, which is needed right now because they are probably going to want to get a long term deal done this year.

Patrick
5 years 7 months ago

You expect that Pujols would say the most important thing to him is getting the largest contract ever doled out to a professional baseball player? Whether they want a long term deal done now or not, they have the luxury of having the most prolific offensive player in the game currently under contract for not only 2010 but 2011. The Cardinals are in the drivers seat.

The cards struggled in 2007 and 2008 post their miracle 2006 World Series run, but I’d argue their rebound in 2009 had more to do with the return of Chris Carpentar. Their are other places to get production more affordably for them than Holliday.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

of course not, but he doesn’t have to say anything. Obviously money matters to Pujols, like it does to anyone else, but I think winning matters as well. To get Pujols to sign and extension in 2010 they needed to show him that they are serious about winning. Signing Pujols does that.

Patrick
5 years 7 months ago

You expect that Pujols would say the most important thing to him is getting the largest contract ever doled out to a professional baseball player? Whether they want a long term deal done now or not, they have the luxury of having the most prolific offensive player in the game currently under contract for not only 2010 but 2011. The Cardinals are in the drivers seat.

The cards struggled in 2007 and 2008 post their miracle 2006 World Series run, but I’d argue their rebound in 2009 had more to do with the return of Chris Carpentar. Their are other places to get production more affordably for them than Holliday.

Andy_B
5 years 7 months ago

Pujols has said that the most important thing to him is the teams commitment to winning not chasing every dollar. Signing holliday shows Pujols that the cards are committed to winning, which is needed right now because they are probably going to want to get a long term deal done this year.

5 years 7 months ago

So if let say the Cardinals move on and don’t sign Holliday, where would he go and still get the money he wants Japan?

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

The Orioles want him, i think they want a new franchise player. They almost went all in on Teixiera, maybe they pull the trigger on this one….

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 7 months ago

I was kind of disappointed to see Tex sign with the Yankees instead of the O’s. If your favorite team as a kid offers you good money you should sign with them. Instead he has to face them many times a year.

5 years 7 months ago

He gets to go visit home 8-9 nights a baseball season..

5 years 7 months ago

He gets to go visit home 8-9 nights a baseball season..

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 7 months ago

I was kind of disappointed to see Tex sign with the Yankees instead of the O’s. If your favorite team as a kid offers you good money you should sign with them. Instead he has to face them many times a year.

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

The Orioles want him, i think they want a new franchise player. They almost went all in on Teixiera, maybe they pull the trigger on this one….

5 years 7 months ago

If the Cardinals move on, Boras will orchestrate a bidding war between Boston, New York, and anyone else with the money available. And none of them will even be interested.

Damn him.

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

Sox and Yankees have repeated over and over that there is no chance Holliday goes to either Boston or New York.

5 years 7 months ago

That doesn’t mean Boras won’t try to include them.

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

how can he include them though when both teams frantically deny any interest in the player?

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

how can he include them though when both teams frantically deny any interest in the player?

5 years 7 months ago

That doesn’t mean Boras won’t try to include them.

5 years 7 months ago

And you know when the Yankees say they have no interest they really mean it. Wink wink.

5 years 7 months ago

And you know when the Yankees say they have no interest they really mean it. Wink wink.

04Forever
5 years 7 months ago

Sox and Yankees have repeated over and over that there is no chance Holliday goes to either Boston or New York.

5 years 7 months ago

If the Cardinals move on, Boras will orchestrate a bidding war between Boston, New York, and anyone else with the money available. And none of them will even be interested.

Damn him.

5 years 7 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Orioles and Angels come into the mix if the Cards fall out of contention for his services.

If Holliday brings his price down to something like $15-16M I’m also sure a bunch of other teams would be calling as well.

Or if a team like the Giants or the Mariners can get a little crafty and move some additional payroll, I think they’d be interested.

5 years 7 months ago

Hmm, I never thought about it, but I can really see the Angels getting in on this if it drags on too long.

5 years 7 months ago

Hmm, I never thought about it, but I can really see the Angels getting in on this if it drags on too long.

stl_cards16
5 years 7 months ago

I agree that the Orioles could be a surprise team here. They do have alot of money as they are in a pretty big market.

But I can’t see his price dropping to 15-16 mil a year. I don’t think the Cardinals will have a problem 17 or possibly even 18 a year to keep him. But I am growing less confident in the Cardinals chances. Someone could sneak in there with 18 or 19mil a year and sign him. I think he is too good of a fit for the Giants to not try to make something work with him

5 years 7 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Orioles and Angels come into the mix if the Cards fall out of contention for his services.

If Holliday brings his price down to something like $15-16M I’m also sure a bunch of other teams would be calling as well.

Or if a team like the Giants or the Mariners can get a little crafty and move some additional payroll, I think they’d be interested.

gocrazy
5 years 7 months ago

The longer this goes on, there more interested I am in the plan B.

Cards_Fanboy
5 years 7 months ago

My guess is some combination of Dye, Tejada, Wang, Smoltz, and Valverde… which would turn out quite good in my opinion.

gocrazy
5 years 7 months ago

The longer this goes on, there more interested I am in the plan B.

JTrea81
5 years 7 months ago

Remember there have been several cases where the team that is “out in front” for a Boras client is not the team that ends up with said client. St Louis has been very public about this Holliday chase, and that doesn’t actually bode well for their chances.

Beltran went to the Mets after the Astros were said to be his only real suitor

Damon went to the Yankees after the Red Sox were the only ones pursuing him.

And Teixeira signed with the Yankees after media reports said the Red Sox were right on the verge of locking him up.

Until Holliday signs a contract, I wouldn’t rule out the Orioles IMO. They have the need and interest and have been extremely quiet…

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Orioles have Reimold, Jones, Markakis and Scott for OF and DH; no reason to invest 100m+ into Holliday

JTrea81
5 years 7 months ago

Holliday is a RH cleanup hitter, which is something the Orioles have been targeting.

Reimold can be moved to DH, Scott can be traded as can Pie for other pieces to upgrade the O’s.Signing Holliday just gives them more options.Holliday is the best FA bat out of this and the next offseason that will be available to the Orioles as Mauer isn’t going to be an option.If Andy wants to add a big FA bat before 2011, Holliday is his best chance.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Even though Scott isnt a FA until after 2011, he’ll be 32 in June, not sure what you can get for him; but regardless, they’re a 4th place team this year with a payroll budget that looks to be around 70-80m, I just dont agree with giving 25% of your budget to one guy who doesnt make you that much better. IMO they should let their young pitchers and batters develop and then add the big FA when they’re a piece away from serious contention, like the Rays did last year with Burrell.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Even though Scott isnt a FA until after 2011, he’ll be 32 in June, not sure what you can get for him; but regardless, they’re a 4th place team this year with a payroll budget that looks to be around 70-80m, I just dont agree with giving 25% of your budget to one guy who doesnt make you that much better. IMO they should let their young pitchers and batters develop and then add the big FA when they’re a piece away from serious contention, like the Rays did last year with Burrell.

JTrea81
5 years 7 months ago

Holliday is a RH cleanup hitter, which is something the Orioles have been targeting.

Reimold can be moved to DH, Scott can be traded as can Pie for other pieces to upgrade the O’s.Signing Holliday just gives them more options.Holliday is the best FA bat out of this and the next offseason that will be available to the Orioles as Mauer isn’t going to be an option.If Andy wants to add a big FA bat before 2011, Holliday is his best chance.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Orioles have Reimold, Jones, Markakis and Scott for OF and DH; no reason to invest 100m+ into Holliday

5 years 7 months ago

Beltran went to the Mets after the Astros were said to be his only real suitor

Actually, If you don’t remember watching the 2005 MLB Playoffs.. they would mention Carlos Beltran as the “soon to be CF for the New York Yankees” and then discuss frequently how the Yankees will bet the bank to acquire the star CF from the houston astros.. especially after what he pulled off during the playoff run.

5 years 7 months ago

Beltran went to the Mets after the Astros were said to be his only real suitor

Actually, If you don’t remember watching the 2005 MLB Playoffs.. they would mention Carlos Beltran as the “soon to be CF for the New York Yankees” and then discuss frequently how the Yankees will bet the bank to acquire the star CF from the houston astros.. especially after what he pulled off during the playoff run.

5 years 7 months ago

LOL how do you compare the O’s to the Yanks

JTrea81
5 years 7 months ago

Remember there have been several cases where the team that is “out in front” for a Boras client is not the team that ends up with said client. St Louis has been very public about this Holliday chase, and that doesn’t actually bode well for their chances.

Beltran went to the Mets after the Astros were said to be his only real suitor

Damon went to the Yankees after the Red Sox were the only ones pursuing him.

And Teixeira signed with the Yankees after media reports said the Red Sox were right on the verge of locking him up.

Until Holliday signs a contract, I wouldn’t rule out the Orioles IMO. They have the need and interest and have been extremely quiet…

5 years 7 months ago

IMO Matt Holliday has 3 options!

1) Resign with the Cardinals knowing your a playoff-caliber squad. 5yr 85-90mill

2) Sign with Baltimore for the “money” as well as a deal “in your terms” and hope they’ll be a playoff caliber team this season or next season. 6yr 108 w/’player options for year 3 & 5 of contract.

3) Sign with Yankees b/c you want to win a World Series. Sign 5yr 80mill.

5 years 7 months ago

IMO Matt Holliday has 3 options!

1) Resign with the Cardinals knowing your a playoff-caliber squad. 5yr 85-90mill

2) Sign with Baltimore for the “money” as well as a deal “in your terms” and hope they’ll be a playoff caliber team this season or next season. 6yr 108 w/’player options for year 3 & 5 of contract.

3) Sign with Yankees b/c you want to win a World Series. Sign 5yr 80mill.