Discussion: Best Move Of The Offseason

With Felipe Lopez finally catching on with the Cardinals, essentially every big name free agent is off the market (no disrespect to Jermaine Dye and Jarrod Washburn). That allows us to sit back and reflect on all of the offseason's moves, and try to figure out which one was the very best.

Here are some candidates…

There's certainly no shortage of candidates, but one has to be the best of the best, right? What do you think it is?


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261 Comments on "Discussion: Best Move Of The Offseason"


5 years 6 months ago

NOT Jason Bay! Ha ha……..

5 years 6 months ago

Definitely the M’s getting Lee is the best. It’s going to impact them the most out of all the other signings other teams made.

Sophist4
5 years 6 months ago

Lee was the best move, but I disagree with your second statement. The move give them 1 year of Lee. How could 1 year of Lee (123 ERA+ in last three years) be more impactful than 3 years of Roy Halladay (141 ERA+ in last three years)?

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Also Rich Harden and Hideki Matsui were good moves in the west. As was the Michael Taylor acquisition.

quintjs
5 years 6 months ago

Re Matt: As many writers have pointed out, Lee could actually have the least impact, because he replaces Washburn/ the other guy (forget name) who pitched 200odd innings of 2.7 ball last year for the M’s.

That being said, its still easily the best deal. THere was a mis-print in the article, the M’s got Lee for three ‘prospects’, not three prospects.

Even if they turn out ok, Phillies could and should have gotten more.

The same thing applies for Halladay – short term impact of that one is hard, made the WS and Lee won his games, Halladay replaces Lee, so not sure what impact Halladay can have. Phillies were before and after the trade the best team in the NL by a lot.

Most impact could be Lackey, replacing Smoltz/ Penny – that is a huge change if the other pitching stays good.

Bay wasn’t a great signing, it was just necessary.

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5 years 6 months ago

Cliff Lee replacing Washburn/Bedard is actually not true. Washburn was traded away from the mariners for prospects during the season. Cliff Lee signing with the mariners means he took away a spot on the starting rotation. Which means he replaces who ever would have been the number 5 starter for the mariners, not Washburn.

On a side note I hate when people compare Bedard/Washburn to lee mostly since Bedard only pitched 5 innings, while Lee is sure to give you at least 7, which has a huge impact on the team and gives the bullpen more time to rest. Something the numbers don’t reflect.

But I really like the Chone Figgins signing, he will have the most impact for years to come, mostly because the Angels don’t have him :) But I’d say Figgins has the most impact long term unless we sign a extension with lee(I’d love it if we did but could you imagine having so much money tied up in two pitchers)

5 years 6 months ago

LAD locking up Ethier, Broxton, and Kemp for a couple of guaranteed years is a legit great move, possibly the top in my opinion.

phillyphan26
5 years 6 months ago

although these moves are good moves for the dodgers. This still didnt do enough to beat the phils in the playoffs. The dodgers rotation needed help and well they didnt do enough to fix that. So all in all the Dodgers will still lose the Phils in the playoffs should they meet again.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Can’t I just say it was a great off-season and no move was dreadful and that I love every single move?

I personally think that this off-season was fantastic! And I’m not sure how I could pick a favorite. With that said, my top 3 favorites (not in order) are

Curtis Granderson trade to the Yankees
Chone Figgins and his 4/36MM deal with the Mariners
Cliff Lee to the Mariners

I couldn’t really pick a best move because as I said, it was just a great off-season and a fantastic Hot Stove League.

Now it’s time for the season! Let the Baseball Season begin!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Can’t I just say it was a great off-season and no move was dreadful and that I love every single move?

I personally think that this off-season was fantastic! And I’m not sure how I could pick a favorite. With that said, my top 3 favorites (not in order) are

Curtis Granderson trade to the Yankees
Chone Figgins and his 4/36MM deal with the Mariners
Cliff Lee to the Mariners

I couldn’t really pick a best move because as I said, it was just a great off-season and a fantastic Hot Stove League.

Now it’s time for the season! Let the Baseball Season begin!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 years 6 months ago

And let’s be really real here,Milton Bradley for Carlos Silva was magnificent! By all textbook and heavenly standards, possibly the most perfect trade of all mankind.

icedrake523
5 years 6 months ago

I’d rank them:

Lee
Soriano
Halladay
Granderson
Bay
Lackey

GD31892
5 years 6 months ago

This would be my exact order too.

icedrake523
5 years 5 months ago

I should have included my explanation for each.

Lee gives the M’s a formidable 1-2 with Felix. A healthy Bedard (albet an “if”) would give them a very good front 3. They didn’t have to give up much either.
Soriano, while not a great closer, provides stability the Rays need. And landing him at the cost of Chavez (who was acquired for Iwamura) makes it better.
Halladay is undoubtedly one of the best pitchers in the game. However, how much of an upgrade is he over Lee? Was it enough that justifies the Phillies giving up the prospects that they did? I think they would have been in just as good of a position keeping those prospects and Lee. We’ll see though.
Granderson obviously struggles against lefties, but that bandbox is going to do wonders to his numbers. Plus he’ll be hitting in a much deeper lineup. Even if he’s not the greatest defensive OF, he’s an upgrade over Damon whose throws barely make it to the cutoff man.
Bay will probably be 20-25 HR. He’ll still hit HR. The Citi Field factor is VERY overrated. The problem was the Mets’ lineup, not the stadium. Alex Cora, Luis Castillo, and all the other replacements wouldn’t have hit HRs anywhere.
Lackey, while a good pitcher, was overpaid. He’s not left ST healthy since 2007 IIRC. If the Red Sox get 3 straight healthy years out of him, they should count themselves lucky. They’ll probably be fine with him the first 2, but look out during years 3-5.

asfANatic
5 years 6 months ago

Oakland acquires Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard for Scott Hairston and Aaron Cunningham?
Time will tell if this trade is a good move, but it very well could end up being one of the better moves of the offseason…

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

It was a good move but it doesn’t highlight the A’s off-season. Personally, I like the Michael Taylor acquisition.

Michael Taylor and Chris Carter are the next Derrek Lee and Ryan Howard respectively.

zonisx
5 years 6 months ago

except that Taylor plays in the outfield

zonisx
5 years 6 months ago

except that Taylor plays in the outfield

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

It was a good move but it doesn’t highlight the A’s off-season. Personally, I like the Michael Taylor acquisition.

Michael Taylor and Chris Carter are the next Derrek Lee and Ryan Howard respectively.

chicowalker
5 years 6 months ago

I think I have to go with Roy Halladay to the Phillies, and not simply because they acquired him, but also because they signed him to a reasonable (considering what most top line starters have gotten over the last few years) extension afterward.

Paul Boyé
5 years 6 months ago

Gotta go with Lee to the Mariners first, then probably the Raffy Soriano move as a sleeper second.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

It’s too bad the compensation screwed up Soriano’s contract…
It would have been nice to get a top draft pick + a supplemental pick…
But Chavez seems like he could be a good middle reliever

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

It’s too bad the compensation screwed up Soriano’s contract…
It would have been nice to get a top draft pick + a supplemental pick…
But Chavez seems like he could be a good middle reliever

WisBrave
5 years 6 months ago

You kinda forgot the Javier Vazquez trade.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

I think it was a great trade for the Yanks and a decent trade for the Braves. Who knows, could end up an amazing trade for the Braves.

WisBrave
5 years 6 months ago

While it’s true that this trade could end up great for the Braves, everything the Yankees gave up was completely expandable. As are all parts they use in trades.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

Same could be said for the Braves. Logan was a back-up LHP and Javier was 1 of 6 pitchers in the rotation for the Braves. Braves could have used Javier greatly, but they don’t need him. If the Braves end up in the post-season this year, then it was an amazing trade on both ends.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

Same could be said for the Braves. Logan was a back-up LHP and Javier was 1 of 6 pitchers in the rotation for the Braves. Braves could have used Javier greatly, but they don’t need him. If the Braves end up in the post-season this year, then it was an amazing trade on both ends.

WisBrave
5 years 6 months ago

While it’s true that this trade could end up great for the Braves, everything the Yankees gave up was completely expandable. As are all parts they use in trades.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 6 months ago

I think it was a great trade for the Yanks and a decent trade for the Braves. Who knows, could end up an amazing trade for the Braves.

baseballproJS
5 years 6 months ago

Chapman to the Reds? May not have most immediate impact but heck of a move for the Reds.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Agreed. Also don’t forget about the Kevin Millwood trade to mentor the young guys.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

yep; and they gave up nothing. (Chris Ray)

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

yep; and they gave up nothing. (Chris Ray)

phillyphan26
5 years 6 months ago

The young guys in Baltimore do show alot of promise. However they are not going to learn a great deal from Milwood being that he will getting lit up by the AL East and the young guns will not want to take advice from a has been. Again I still like the Orioles young staff and if they keep that young talented team together they can makes some great strides in taking down the evil empire.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Agreed. Also don’t forget about the Kevin Millwood trade to mentor the young guys.

Votto4MVP
5 years 6 months ago

Chapman to any other team would be an absolute Top Runner but because its our beloved Reds the media tries to down play it

Votto4MVP
5 years 6 months ago

Chapman to any other team would be an absolute Top Runner but because its our beloved Reds the media tries to down play it

04Forever
5 years 6 months ago

it will be curtis granderson in time

5 years 6 months ago

I didn’t. I just didn’t want to list too many moves.

5 years 6 months ago

Bah, wrong spot. This was supposed to be a reply to WisBrave above.

04Forever
5 years 6 months ago

its cool, i kind of figured

WisBrave
5 years 6 months ago

I thought so.

Ferrariman
5 years 6 months ago

How is brandon Lyon for 3/15 not on this list!!!!!

bobbybaseball
5 years 6 months ago

Um, because it was not a good deal perhaps?

Ferrariman
5 years 6 months ago

That was sarcasm…

bobbybaseball
5 years 6 months ago

Sorry, my bad Ferrari…

strikethree
5 years 6 months ago

I believe there is a hint of sarcasm.

strikethree
5 years 6 months ago

I believe there is a hint of sarcasm.

bobbybaseball
5 years 6 months ago

Um, because it was not a good deal perhaps?

z3rogs
5 years 6 months ago

Halladay, then Lee.

jdub220
5 years 6 months ago

You know, I might be biased, but signing LaRoche should be up there.

And seriously? Jason Bay? The guy couldn’t even cover left field in Fenway, and that’s with a 37 foot wall behind him deflecting everything right back.

5 years 6 months ago

the cliff lee trade was the best. john lackey was the worst

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

The John Lackey signing was only the worst if they can’t retain Beckett.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

The John Lackey signing was only the worst if they can’t retain Beckett.

ReverendBlack
5 years 6 months ago

Pardon? The only way they would not sign Beckett is if he asked more than they were willing to offer. It won’t be due to being out of money.

The only way the two things (Lackey’s signing and Beckett’s future one) could be meaningfully related is if Lackey has a good year and Beckett’s value to the team decreases as a consequence, leading them to let him walk. But in that case Lackey is pitching well and it makes little sense to call his signing bad.

athletic4ws
5 years 6 months ago

I agree with the Mariners getting Lee. They stole him… I don’t care if it is for 1 year. I love the Phillies, but this was a very very bad move. The Roy Halladay trade/signing saved them!

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Cliff Lee to the Mariners!
(if he signs with them)

It’d be nice if MLBTR had some sort of Poll system so we could vote

Ferrariman
5 years 6 months ago

They do.

But you have to go to the forum and make your own thread.

Ferrariman
5 years 6 months ago

They do.

But you have to go to the forum and make your own thread.

Guest
5 years 6 months ago

Cliff Lee to the Mariners!
(if he signs with them)

It’d be nice if MLBTR had some sort of Poll system so we could vote

dodgers1111
5 years 6 months ago

The dodgers signing Russ Ortiz is by far the best move of the off season.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 6 months ago

LOL… Thats a good joke right there hahaha…

RiverKKiller999
5 years 6 months ago

LOL… Thats a good joke right there hahaha…

unclepoopalo
5 years 6 months ago

Plinko

unclepoopalo
5 years 6 months ago

Plinko

unclepoopalo
5 years 6 months ago

Matt Holliday to the Cardinals. If it does nothing else than aid in us keeping Pujols, it was the best deal by far. Just don’t lose it in the lights Matty.

5 years 6 months ago

I wondering how far down into the comments I would have to go until I found a Matt Holliday mention. He was worth it all if he gets Pujols to stay. The fact that the Cards will actually have a clean up hitter is just an added bonus.

5 years 6 months ago

I wondering how far down into the comments I would have to go until I found a Matt Holliday mention. He was worth it all if he gets Pujols to stay. The fact that the Cards will actually have a clean up hitter is just an added bonus.

unclepoopalo
5 years 6 months ago

Matt Holliday to the Cardinals. If it does nothing else than aid in us keeping Pujols, it was the best deal by far. Just don’t lose it in the lights Matty.