Discussion: Chad Gaudin & Sergio Mitre

The Yankees head into the 2010 season with the front four spots of their rotation set, but with an open competition for the final spot. Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain are the front runners for that spot, but manager Joe Girardi maintains that others like Chad Gaudin, Sergio Mitre, and Alfredo Aceves will be give a chance to win the job.

Both Gaudin and Mitre are out of options, and the Chan Ho Park signing means there's only spot left open in the bullpen for these two. Something will have to give.

Gaudin, 27 in March, will earn $2.95MM in 2010 and will become a free agent after the season. In 31 games (25 starts) for the Padres and Yankees, he posted a 4.64 ERA with an 8.5 K/9 and a 4.3 BB/9. He has experience starting and relieving, and has thrown at least 90 innings in each of the last three seasons.

Mitre, on the other hand, with earn $850K in his age-29 season in 2010, and still has another year of arbitration eligibility ahead of him. After missing the entire 2008 season with Tommy John surgery, Mitre posted a 6.79 ERA in 12 games (nine starts) last year, striking out just 5.6 men per nine innings. He should improve as he gets further away from his surgery.

Since both Gaudin and Mitre are out of options, they would need to clear waivers before they could be sent to the minors. Since the Yankees only have room for one of them on their pitching staff, the other could become trade bait. Can you think of any potential fits of either Gaudin or Mitre? Maybe the Dodgers since they need a fifth starter? 


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70 Comments on "Discussion: Chad Gaudin & Sergio Mitre"


anthonymurillo
5 years 5 months ago

How about Mitre to the Dodgers for the Yankees to keep the rights of Jamie Hoffmann, that way if he doesn’t make the team out of ST, the Yankees can stash him away in Triple A

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Good point. Plus, I don’t theres a chance that he makes the team given the depth on the Yankees already.

Alldaybaseball
5 years 5 months ago

Mitre isn’t worth Hoffman in my opinion. Weaver looks better than Mirtre right now.

Alldaybaseball
5 years 5 months ago

Mitre isn’t worth Hoffman in my opinion. Weaver looks better than Mirtre right now.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Good point. Plus, I don’t theres a chance that he makes the team given the depth on the Yankees already.

5 years 5 months ago

Mitre is garbage according to last season. He was once a very good pitcher with good movement on his pitches. But now with his surgery, hitters are just smashing him. Gaudin is not only good, but very good. In 7 of his starts and yankees won all 7 games. I think he has more experience and should win the 5th spot of the rotation.

Bullpen:
Mo
Hughes
Joba
Marte
Boone
Robertson
Aceves

yankfandave
5 years 5 months ago

Interesting!? Gaudin over both Joba and Hughes, although he is good, he is not that good. Each has better stuff , better upside and are younger than Gaudin. Also, each has performed at least, if not better, as a starter. In addition, you have the Yankees bullpen without Park? I think you just forgot about him. And, Boone would be a unneeded luxury as a second lefty but the others arms are all more valuable so it is unlikely he makes the cut.

5 years 5 months ago

Yea your right I forgot about Park, he can be a solid relief and might even take Boone’s place. And about Gaudin, I used to watch him pitch when he was with the SD Padres. When hes right he can give you 6 inning and 8 strikeouts. I remember him pitching against the Mets and striking out 11. I do believe that both Joba and Hughes will be better pitchers in the times to come but they still need time to work on they mechanics. They have been taking out of the minor leagues too soon thats why they have limits like the Joba rules. But lets just see who pitches best at spring training and he shall pitch the 5th spot.

5 years 5 months ago

I think that a really interesting idea. Makes a lot of sense for both teams. My only doubt is that if this trade happens and Mitre has a crappy ST and needs to get cut, the Dodgers would be wasting $850K. His contract is guaranteed right?

anthonymurillo
5 years 5 months ago

How about Mitre to the Dodgers for the Yankees to keep the rights of Jamie Hoffmann, that way if he doesn’t make the team out of ST, the Yankees can stash him away in Triple A

5 years 5 months ago

Just waive mitre or gaudin. If someone claims gaudin you save money.

5 years 5 months ago

Yeah, but you lose him for nothing. Gaudin has value as a league average-ish innings guy.

5 years 5 months ago

Yeah, but you lose him for nothing. Gaudin has value as a league average-ish innings guy.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

I think that Gaudin should be the one to go He certainly has a bit of cash on him for a pitcher that is no number #2 starter to say the least. maybe the Dodgers would give up Josh Lindblom? If the Dodgers still had Juan Pierre this would be the perfect trade. Possibly a trade for…

Eric Patterson?

He’s out of options as well and certainly does not fit in to the A’s plans for 2010. Maybe a swap for the two or just a waive of Gaudin or Mitre as you said will do it.

5 years 5 months ago

Though Gaudin is an average pitcher, I don’t think the Dodgers will try to acquire him because of his contract. The Dodgers already have a TON of guys trying out for the last spot at league minimum or non-guaranteed contracts. Getting a guy that may produce the same as any of those other options for $3Mil seems unlikely especially under the McCourt financial situation. Also a lot of people have been really hyping Lindblom up the last year or so, so unless there’s something wrong with him that I don’t know, shipping him for an average pitcher would be really disappointing.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Lindblom to me seems kind of like a Broxton type pitcher.
A late inning reliever who throws 98 out of the pen. Zerpa and Monasterios seem more like the two candidates but Mitre on the other hand gets I think 300k more than the league minimum so maybe Mitre for cash if any trade is in place

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

I think that Gaudin should be the one to go He certainly has a bit of cash on him for a pitcher that is no number #2 starter to say the least. maybe the Dodgers would give up Josh Lindblom? If the Dodgers still had Juan Pierre this would be the perfect trade. Possibly a trade for…

Eric Patterson?

He’s out of options as well and certainly does not fit in to the A’s plans for 2010. Maybe a swap for the two or just a waive of Gaudin or Mitre as you said will do it.

5 years 5 months ago

Just waive mitre or gaudin. If someone claims gaudin you save money.

Jonathan Gallo
5 years 5 months ago

Waive Mitre. Gaudin was a great signing mid-season, so why let him go.

Jonathan Gallo
5 years 5 months ago

Waive Mitre. Gaudin was a great signing mid-season, so why let him go.

berton226
5 years 5 months ago

According to Chad Jennings their contracts aren’t even guaranteed this year…Is that right?

berton226
5 years 5 months ago

According to Chad Jennings their contracts aren’t even guaranteed this year…Is that right?

ams223
5 years 5 months ago

How bout Gaudin to the dodgers for the rights to Hoffmann….hmm. It’s certainly an original thought.

ams223
5 years 5 months ago

How bout Gaudin to the dodgers for the rights to Hoffmann….hmm. It’s certainly an original thought.

mikeitt
5 years 5 months ago

is Chamberlain out of options I wonder?

5 years 5 months ago

He has all three left. He’s never gone back down to the minors after being called up in 2007.

5 years 5 months ago

He has all three left. He’s never gone back down to the minors after being called up in 2007.

mikeitt
5 years 5 months ago

is Chamberlain out of options I wonder?

Macfan1
5 years 5 months ago

“Both Gaudin and Mitre are out of options, and the Chan Ho Park signing means there’s only spot left open in the bullpen for these two. Something will have to give.”

LOL

Why are we wasting time with Sergio Mitre, this joker wouldn’t even be claimed on waivers frankly. He is pure garbage of the highest order.

I would take Gaudin over Mitre any day of the week for the last man in the pen, Gaudin is also 2 years younger.

Gaudin last season

2-2, 3.43 ERA, 42 IP, 41 H, 16 ER, 7 HR, 20 BB, 34 K, .252 BAA

Mitre last season

3-3, 6.79 ERA, 51.2 IP, 71 H, 39 ER, 10 HR, 13 BB, 32 K, .321 BAA (brrrrrr, shivers)

The faster Mitre is let go the better, sadly he will probably wind up in our system in Scranton after going unclaimed by every team on waivers.

The 2010 Yankees bullpen is

Chad Gaudin – R – Long Relief / Spot Starter
Park – R – 5th/6th inning Short Relief
Aceves – R – Long or Short Relief, he can work multiple innings, 1 inning, 1 batter if need be
Robertson – R – 7th inning power arm to bridge to the setup man
Marte – L – Primary lefty
Hughes or Joba – Setup Man
Rivera – Closer

Yankees don’t need a second lefty, Aceves, Robertson, Hughes, Marte, Rivera are all terrific against lefty hitters and last season the only lefty in the bullpen was Phil Coke after Marte was hurt all season.

Mitre meanwhile belongs in a softball league if even they would want him.

sheelowsh
5 years 5 months ago

Hey macfan1,

You are forgetting Logan, a left handed reliever.

Macfan1
5 years 5 months ago

No I just left him off. I don’t care for the guy, he was a throw-in in the Vazquez deal.

Don’t need him on the 25 man to start the season, he can go to Scranton until he is consistent.

the bullpen with Gaudin, Park, Aceves, Robertson, Marte, Hughes or Joba, Rivera, already has 7 guys, no room for a Boone Logan.

Our bullpen last season had 1 lefty Phil Coke, since Marte was hurt most of last season. Boone Logan is not one of the best arms in that pen this season, I would rather see Melancon before him.

This is the likely bullpen

Gaudin – R 2-0 – 3.43, 1.45 WHIP, .252 BAA, 42 IP, 41 H, 20 BB, 34 K

Park – R – 2-2 – 2.52, 1.18 WHIP, .231 BAA, 50 IP, 43 H, 16 BB, 52 K

Aceves – R – 10-1 – 3.35, 0.99 WHIP, .218 BAA, 80.2 IP, 65 H, 15 BB, 67 K

Robertson – R – 2-1 – 3.30, 1.35 WHIP, ..216 BAA, 43.2 IP, 36 H, 23 BB, 63 K

Marte – L – 1-3 – 9.45, 1.58 WHIP, 13 IP, 15 H, 6 BB, 13 K (he was hurt all of last season thus only 13 innings all year, he showed what he could do against lefties in the playoffs.)

Hughes – R – 5-1 – 1.40, 0.86 WHIP, .172 BAA, 51 IP, 31 H, 13 BB, 65 K

Rivera – R – 3-3 – 1.76, 0.90 WHIP, .197 BAA 66.1 IP, 48 H, 12 BB, 72 K

Aceves, Robertson, Hughes, Rivera are all terrific vs lefty hitters.

Aceves vs Lefties – 3.79 ERA, 38 IP, 29 H, 16 ER, 2 HR, 8 BB, 31 K’s, 0.97 WHIP, .210 BAA

Robertson vs Lefties – 1.86 ERA, 19 IP, 14 H, 4 ER, 2 HR, 9 BB, 30 K’s, 1.19 WHIP, .189 BAA, (induces more ground balls than fly balls against left handers)

Hughes vs Lefties – 1.17 ERA, 23 IP, 16 H, 3 ER, 0 HR, 11 BB, 29 K’s, 1.17 WHIP, .198 BAA

Rivera vs Lefties – 1.35 ERA, 33.1 IP, 22 H, 5 ER, 3 HR, 9 BB, 35 K’s, 0.93 WHIP, .182 BAA

all to go with Marte, don’t need Boone Logan and his inconsistent junk.

Macfan1
5 years 5 months ago

“Both Gaudin and Mitre are out of options, and the Chan Ho Park signing means there’s only spot left open in the bullpen for these two. Something will have to give.”

LOL

Why are we wasting time with Sergio Mitre, this joker wouldn’t even be claimed on waivers frankly. He is pure garbage of the highest order.

I would take Gaudin over Mitre any day of the week for the last man in the pen, Gaudin is also 2 years younger.

Gaudin last season

2-2, 3.43 ERA, 42 IP, 41 H, 16 ER, 7 HR, 20 BB, 34 K, .252 BAA

Mitre last season

3-3, 6.79 ERA, 51.2 IP, 71 H, 39 ER, 10 HR, 13 BB, 32 K, .321 BAA (brrrrrr, shivers)

The faster Mitre is let go the better, sadly he will probably wind up in our system in Scranton after going unclaimed by every team on waivers.

The 2010 Yankees bullpen is

Chad Gaudin – R – Long Relief / Spot Starter
Park – R – 5th/6th inning Short Relief
Aceves – R – Long or Short Relief, he can work multiple innings, 1 inning, 1 batter if need be
Robertson – R – 7th inning power arm to bridge to the setup man
Marte – L – Primary lefty
Hughes or Joba – Setup Man
Rivera – Closer

Yankees don’t need a second lefty, Aceves, Robertson, Hughes, Marte, Rivera are all terrific against lefty hitters and last season the only lefty in the bullpen was Phil Coke after Marte was hurt all season.

Mitre meanwhile belongs in a softball league if even they would want him.

berton226
5 years 5 months ago

Chad Jennings mentioned that both of their contracts are not guaranteed this year…is that right?

5 years 5 months ago

Right.

5 years 5 months ago

Right.

berton226
5 years 5 months ago

Chad Jennings mentioned that both of their contracts are not guaranteed this year…is that right?

djeter808
5 years 5 months ago

Red Sox need them both but I guess that’s neither here nor there…

djeter808
5 years 5 months ago

Red Sox need them both but I guess that’s neither here nor there…

101andCounting
5 years 5 months ago

i’d like to see either one back in a cubs uniform – gaudin especially. i always liked him

101andCounting
5 years 5 months ago

i’d like to see either one back in a cubs uniform – gaudin especially. i always liked him