Indians Acquire Zach McAllister To Complete Trade

The Indians have acquired pitcher Zach McAllister from the Yankees to complete the Austin Kearns deal, according to a team press release.  The trade called for Cleveland to receive a player to be named later or cash.

McAllister, a native Midwesterner, has a 5.09 ERA with 6.0 K/9 and 2.6 BB/9 for the Yankees' Triple-A affiliate this season.  He enjoyed a strong 2009 in Double-A Trenton, however, posting a 2.23 ERA with 7.1 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9.

Heading into the season, Baseball America ranked the 6'5" righthander as the fifth-best prospect in the organization and the second-best pitcher behind the now-departed Arodys Vizcaino.  According to their 2010 Prospect Handbook, he had the best control of any pitcher in the Yankees system but his slider is his only plus pitch.


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112 Comments on "Indians Acquire Zach McAllister To Complete Trade"


5 years 15 days ago

You have to be kidding me.Why would the Yankees give up one of their best pitching prospects for a meh bench bat?Also “The Indians have acquired pitcher Zach McAllister from the Indians to complete the Austin Kearns deal, according to a team press release. The trade called for Cleveland to receive a player to be named later or cash.”

The_Silver_Stacker
5 years 15 days ago

the yanks have a VERY deep farm system

5 years 15 days ago

So that justifies giving up a good piece for a bench bat?

The_Silver_Stacker
5 years 15 days ago

he was expendable

5 years 14 days ago

So was Sylvester Stallone. Your point?

andrewyf
5 years 15 days ago

His prospect status kinda fell apart this year. He’s at best a throw-in in a major deal, and the Yankees have plenty more like him.

Look at it this way – the Yankees probably wouldn’t have acquired Kearns (who looks to be a key part of the bench) if they weren’t willing to include McAllister. I would rather have Kearns than McAllister, especially if it’s going to help the team win a tight division race. McAllister would provide no value to the team this year, and the way his stuff and numbers look, I honestly doubt he’d provide as much value as Kearns would in half a year on the bench.

If you told me last year McAllister would be moved for a bench bat, I would have been pretty disappointed. But if you also told me last year that McAllister would put up non-prospect numbers in AAA with his peripherals falling off the cliff, I would have understood.

What with all the better pitching prospects coming up behind him, the Yankees’ farm system won’t even notice he’s gone.

5 years 14 days ago

My whole point about this is that the Yankees have lots of money.

If the deal was for a PTBNL or cash, why not just give the Indians CASH?

McAllister, even though he’s having a bad year, is still one of the Yankees better prospects, and worth more than a bench bat.

5 years 14 days ago

No they don’t…at all. The Yankees have an average to below average farm system that lacks elite pitching. I don’t think McAllister was anything special, but the fact that he was the #2 ranked pitching prospect in the organization a few months ago shows that this organization isn’t deep. At all.

yankeesfan5891
5 years 14 days ago

Lack of elite pitching? Have you seen the stats of Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances, David Phelps or Ivan Nova this year? They have all been insane.

andrewyf
5 years 14 days ago

Don’t worry…the rest of baseball still hasn’t moved past the ‘denial’ stage. It will take time.

5 years 14 days ago

Ok, you don’t know anything of the Yankees farm system either so you shouldn’t be talking. I guess all you pay attention to is Keith Law and Baseball America. May I add that the Yankees never tell them anything, and all they like to do is drool all over the Sox’s system?

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

Considering how badly he has pitched this year, with a severe dip in K’s and a severe rise in ERA, his stock dropped considerably.

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

That. He’s a ground ball guy who wasn’t getting ground balls against more advance hitters. Back of the rotation type starter, expendable.

oremlk
5 years 15 days ago

Yeah, he’s not that great and he would never have seen playing time in New York (I’m not a NYY fan, but them’s just facts).

Dave_Gershman
5 years 15 days ago

Yeah really. Thank you. let’s just be honest here, I’m not a big fan of this trade, but McAllister isn’t exactly the greatest thing since sliced bread.

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 14 days ago

He was marketed as such because it looked like he was the only guy that had a chance at cracking the big-league rotation from the minors.Then Betances, Banuelos, and Phelps said hi.

hartvig
5 years 15 days ago

Kearns has done very well for the Yankees so far and McAllister’s stock was down. From Cleveland’s perspective Kearns wasn’t in their future plans & McAllister has some upside. From New Yorks, they’re in a tight pennant race & this gives them a right handed bat in the outfield, which they need and McAllister looks to only have a limited upside, although you never know for sure.This is coming from a Tiger fan who remembers getting Doyle Alexander from the Braves in 1987 for a pretty well regarded prospect.

5 years 15 days ago

If this is a guy that is the player to be name later, I do not know who I should feel sorry about, the Yanks for getting Kearns or the Indians for getting this guy.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

I think they did quite well getting McAllister… not that he has great upside, and he has struggled this year…

Sage
5 years 15 days ago

his is a big win for the Indians. McAllister is a pretty highly-regarded pitching prospect, from what I gather, and they got him for an aging bench player. Nice.

The_Silver_Stacker
5 years 15 days ago

aging? considering most prospects get called up at 24 or 25 that is pretty degrading of him considering he is only 30

Sage
5 years 15 days ago

In sports, I generally consider those 30 and over to be aging. Note that I said aging, and not old.

Guest
5 years 15 days ago

Yankees have a a weak minor league system, that’s the only reason he’s ranked high, he’s good in comparison…
He’s only supposed to be a 4th/5th starter, and Baseball America said that before he had a terrible year (this year)…

Dave_Gershman
5 years 15 days ago

They do not have a weak farm system. Noesi, Nunez, Nova, Betances, Banuelos, Romine, Montero, Arcia, Heathcott, Brackman, and Adams are all good prospects to say the least.

5 years 15 days ago

That’s funny because the Yankees are STACKED in every position in the minor leagues, just alot of players early in development(Banuelos, Gary Sanchez ect.) and some players that should get called up(Brackman, Noesi ect.), Not to mention the Yankees invested alot in the draft which is something I am pleased with. The Yankees farm system, even if they aren’t as good as Texas’s or Tampa’s, I can see them becoming at the highest at least a 10, 11, or 12 in the BA Rankings, and it better be better than Boston’s because behing Kelly, and maybe Tazawa I don’t see many high upside, and their probably the worst at catching which is something they need, and alot of their high-upside players are either injuredstruggling (Westmoreland, Bowden, Anderson) or early in development(Iglesias, Mark Wagner ect.)

5 years 15 days ago

everyone is aging unless theyre benjamin button

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

Just because he was #2 pitching prospect in a system doesn’t mean he’s highly-regarded. He’s a groundball guy, low K, back of the rotation starter.

Sage
5 years 15 days ago

I was only going on what I had heard throughout the year, and it seemed that people thought the kid had good potential.

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

What people? People who comment here who think Ramiro Pena is the SS of the future? McAllister was always a 4/5 starter.

Alldaybaseball
5 years 15 days ago

Wow Yankees got RIPPED.

5 years 15 days ago

We’re not complaining.

It’s MLBTR tradition to rag on the writers when they make a goof. It’s all in good fun.

Yankees10
5 years 15 days ago

I am not a fan of this

5 years 15 days ago

wounder what the PTBNL is for the Kerry Wood deal, Jesus Montero?

Seriously, this doesn’t make a lot of sense, but there the Yankees and prospects aren’t as important to them.

5 years 15 days ago

Neither is money. Why didn’t they give the Indians a million bucks and call it a deal?

Nycalex00
5 years 15 days ago

lol@Brian cashman

andrewyf
5 years 15 days ago

For developing such a deep pool of pitching talent that a guy like Zach McAllister is expendable? If this were 2005, McAllister would have been deemed ‘untouchable’ and a ‘future workhorse’ because that’s what happens with mediocre talent when their teams have no one better than them.

Look at the Mets, and how guys like Brad Holt are considered ‘future mid-rotation workhorses’, and a future below-average regular Ike Davis is deemed part of the Mets’ future core. It’s not because they’re that good, it’s because the Mets’ farm system is so devoid of true front-line talent those guys get hyped up.

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

But Danile Murphy!!!

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 15 days ago

Alright, let’s see if the Indians can fix what’s wrong with him. Dude has been horrific this year, and has actually been getting worse as the season has gone on.

BigYank1
5 years 15 days ago

McAllister was never going to pitch in NY, he was just trade bait. Now this move opens up a spot in the AAA rotation, maybe Brackman gets called up…

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

Doubt that, he only has 60IP at AA and his BB9 jumped back up to 4. Plus they rarely bumb a guy A-AA-AAA in one season.

M_Harden
5 years 15 days ago

Great deal for the Indians. McAllister is at best, an average #3 guy only, but getting him for a bench player is wonderful.

5 years 15 days ago

Just a quick heads up Arodys was traded to the Braves in the Javier Vasquez deal.

Zack23
5 years 15 days ago

They were giving the pre-season prospect rankings

5 years 15 days ago

The trade happened 12/23/09 so the information seems a bit outdated.

5 years 15 days ago

Outdated schmoutdated.

5 years 14 days ago

lol thats great:)

dbreer23
5 years 15 days ago

A lot of those rankings start showing up shortly after the World Series

5 years 15 days ago

I did not like them trading away Vizcaino, I don’t care what he did in 2009, he’s not worth anything in the AL.

5 years 15 days ago

I’m talking about Vazquez when I said he’s not worth anything In th AL, forgot to mention him.

5 years 14 days ago

Arodys is getting better and better and he is going to be a stud, Melky is well Melky, he get’s the Braves hits now and then(even better as of late) and Dunn is turning out to be a good Lefty in the pen, all in all I would have to say my Braves made out on this trade.

Zack23
5 years 14 days ago

How is Arodys getting better and better when he’s on the DL with a torn elbow ligament and may need TJS?

5 years 13 days ago

because the person who posted it is clueless.

andrewyf
5 years 14 days ago

Dunn has more walks (11) than strikeouts (8), and has a career 4.1 BB/9 ratio in the minor leagues. He’s also 25, so not too much chance of him developing any kind of control.

Trust me, the Yankees don’t miss him one bit. Or Melky. Or, really, Vizcaino, because he’s yet another minor league pitcher with a torn labrum and they have at least 3 guys who are better prospects than him at this point.

Zack23
5 years 14 days ago

It’s nota torn labrum, it’s a partially torn elbow ligament

alxn
5 years 14 days ago

“they have at least 3 guys who are better prospects than him at this point.”

hahahahahahahahahaha

yankeesfan5891
5 years 14 days ago

Nova, Betances, Banuelos, Phelps, Noesi. Should I continue?

alxn
5 years 14 days ago

Do you really believe that? Banuelos is a future loogy, Phelps is a back-of-the-rotation/spot-starter at best, Noesi and Nova are both older with worse stuff. Betances is the only one with a chance to be better than Vizcaino. Of those 5, only 2 of them will probably end up as starters in the big leagues, and even that isn’t a lock.

But sure, please continue. I would love to see who else you decide to throw out there.

andrewyf
5 years 14 days ago

No, you please continue.

Vizcaino is a high-ceilinged arm who hasn’t moved past A-ball and is also seriously injured. Sorry, but guys with similar ceilings who are healthy and pitching are always going to rank higher.

Banuelos, Betances and Brackman all have similar or greater ceilings than Viz, and are all now in AA. If Vizcaino were still in the Yankee farm system and had the same injury, he would not rank higher than these three arms.

Sorry, but them’s the breaks. Pitching prospects are risky. At least you’ve got Teheran, who looks like the best pitching prospect in the game.

alxn
5 years 14 days ago

So worst case scenario he has TJS and comes back even better than before. Don’t you think it is a bit hypocritical to say that Brackman is a better prospect because of Vizcaino’s injury, when Brackman has had the same injury, is 4+ years older than Vizcaino, has inferior stuff, and is not much further along in terms of development. I really don’t think they are close long-term.

I may have underrated Banuelos, but given his size and build I would still guess that he ends up in the bullpen long term.

yankeesfan5891
5 years 14 days ago

Since when is 23 old? And Banuelos has had a high ceiling since the day the Yanks picked him up. And he has been showing exactly why they did. What evidence do you possibly have that would dismantle the almost elite prospect status that he currently has?

alxn
5 years 14 days ago

“Since when is 23 old?”

when you’re comparing to a 19 year old

yankeesfan5891
5 years 14 days ago

But Nova is in AAA (Actually making a start in the big leagues on Monday).
23 is an average age for prospects at that level.

5 years 13 days ago

Dunn walks more than a guy an inning. That’s not “a good lefty.” Your analysis = FAIL. next.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 15 days ago

McAllister probably had a ceiling of a #4 to #5 SP who would be an inning eater. That might not “wow” people but those pitchers have value. I’m not opposed to trading a guy like that but trading him as a PTBNL for a player in Kerans, who the Indians obivously had no use for, was a mistake in my opinion. Will it cripple the Yanks? Of course not. With guys like Nova, Phelps, Brackman, Betances, Banuelos, Warren, Noesi and Mitchell all at, above or close to being promoterd to AA the Yanks have plenty of prospects knocking on the door. However, it’s extremely hard for me to think that we could not of have gotten Kearns for a lot less than McAllister.

Also, I can’t understand how people can be so quick to dismiss a guy as a prospect just because he struggled with the transition from AA to AAA. Yes, he’s getting hammered more than a Meth crack whore at a biker gang retreat but so did another decent prospect like Ivan Nova. Last year Nova dominated @ AA and then posted a 5.00 ERA in 12 starts at AAA. He rebounded nicely this year at AAA to post a sub 3.00 ERA. Of course Nova has better stuff but I would not be shocked to see McAllister settle down and be more of a sub 4.00 ERA pitcher next year. McAllister ranked high among Yankee prospects, not because they have a weak farm, but because they as of 2009, the majority of their best prospects were below AA or were coming off of a difficult or injury riddled year (Betances and Brackman). Who did we have above AA other than Montero, Nova and McAllister? Either way good pick up for the Mets as they need as many options in the mix and from the Yanks perspective, while not a major loss I would agree that it seems like we sold him short. Indians wanted to move Kearns as much as we wanted to obtain him.

5 years 15 days ago

Having seen him pitch in Trenton a few times last year, I can vouch for the fact that he had pretty good stuff. However his stats in Trenton are deceiving since it’s very much a pitcher’s park (as the winds coming off the Delaware River tend to knock down fly balls. Still, I would project him at best as being a 3rd or 4th starter in the Majors someday…at best, which is still better than most of all minor leaguers.

Zack23
5 years 14 days ago

Right, and about every major publication can vouch that he doesn’t have pretty good stuff, he only has 1 good pitch.

5 years 15 days ago

This should open the door for Brackman, is Noesi in AA or AAA? because there are some players who are in the lower levels who need to get called up, which should boost the farm. Brandon Laird should also rank in the 90’s he’s solid right now since getting called up Triple A should see him develop some of his power

YanksFanSince78
5 years 15 days ago

Noesi is currently in AA Trenton. He’s had a good year so far:

A+ : 8 starts, 5-2, 2.72 ERA in 43 IP w/ 53 ko vs 9 walks
AA : 16 starts, 7-4, 3.30 ERA in 92 IP w/ 8 k0 vs 18 walks

His last 2 starts have been great but overall he’s struggled in his last 10 games w/ an ERA around 4.12 (3 awful starts). He might get a bump to AAA.

Interestingly enough, if McAllister makes it to the majors w/ the Indians in 2011, which is a decent shot, then he will join Joba, IPK (now w/ D’backs), Melancon (now w/ Astros), Robertson, McClutchen (now w/ Pirates), Kevin Russo (AAA/mlb) and Colin Curtis (AAA/mlb) as players drafted by the Yanks in the 2006 draft that have made their mlb debuts. And then you have Dellin Betances (A+ :14 starts, 8-1, 1.77 ERA in 71 IP w/ 88 ko and 19 walks) as a legit blue chip prospect also from the 2006 draft as well. Pretty good draft, especially for the Yanks.

YanksFanSince78
5 years 15 days ago

Noesi should have read AA : 16 starts, 7-4, 3.30 ERA in 92 IP w/ 80 ko vs 18 walks

$3977112
5 years 15 days ago

PTBNL for Wood = Brandon Laird

YanksFanSince78
5 years 15 days ago

Is that your prediction or did you read it somewhere?

$3977112
5 years 15 days ago

My prediction. If we gave up ZMac for Kearns, we might give up someone better for Wood. Does anyone really think it’ll be Corona, Russo or someone else totally useless?

YanksFanSince78
5 years 15 days ago

I would hope so. Big differenc between the statistical trends of McAllister and Laird. Most felt that McAllister was regressing at AAA where as Laird has had a fantastic 2nd half and is headed towards a .285/.350 30 dbl 25-30 hr kind of year between AA and AAA. Not sure what his ceiling is but I would be shocked if Cashman were to move him for Wood.

$3977112
5 years 15 days ago

Well let’s hope Cleveland just takes the cash.

5 years 15 days ago

Thanks for that since I also did beleove Noesi could be bumped up to Triple A, and that’s what he wishes, Laird would never get traded right after he got called up, besides the third basemen the Yankee farm system have are either early in development, or ar being blocked because the Yanees should project him to be a replacement for A-Rod, especially since when Jorge retires, Montero will take over, A-Rod will probably be moved to the DH role, and Laird should take over. I think more Yankee fans should monitor him more closely, he has what it takes to be a power hitting third baseman.

5 years 15 days ago

*Yankees, *believe sorry.

$3977112
5 years 15 days ago

Even if that were true, would Laird have the glove to stay at 3rd?

5 years 15 days ago

There’s no other position for him to go to. He’s too big for the middle infield, he could move to 1B but That’s where a guy nicknamed Tex lives these days and will for the next 7 Years, and I doubt he can make a transition to the outfield. Hi glove at third pretty decent anyway, and you have to face that that migh and I hope will be true because A-Rod isn’t going to stay at third forever, and Laird and Montero seems like the future of the Yankees to me, Cashman better damn not trade him for ANYONE(but if Lee was still available I’d go for it).