A’s Claim Edwin Encarnacion

The A's claimed Edwin Encarnacion off of waivers from the Blue Jays, according to the teams. The third baseman hit 21 home runs last year, more than anyone on the A's. Encarnacion batted .244/.305/.482 and reached the 20-homer plateau for the second time in his six-year career. Oakland GM Billy Beane, who acquired David DeJesus earlier in the week, continues his busy offseason search for bats.

The Blue Jays lost Encarnacion for nothing, but that's no surprise. The 27-year-old earned $4.75MM in 2010 and could have earned even more through arbitration in 2011, so he was a non-tender candidate.

Another non-tender candidate, Kevin Kouzmanoff, now faces an uncertain future in Oakland. Encarnacion has played all but nine innings of his big league career at third base, Kouzmanoff’s position. The A’s also have Conor Jackson, Rajai Davis, Coco Crisp, Ryan Sweeney, Jack Cust and DeJesus, so there won’t be many at bats to spare at DH. It appears that Kouzmanoff’s days in Oakland are numbered, especially since he and Encarnacion couldn't platoon (both handle lefties better than righties).

The Blue Jays, meanwhile, have an opening at third base. Jose Bautista played 48 games at the hot corner in 2010, John McDonald can play third and prospect Brad Emaus has experience there, too. However, it seems likely that the Blue Jays will consider acquiring a third baseman through trades or free agency.


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92 Comments on "A’s Claim Edwin Encarnacion"


4 years 9 months ago

Saves the Jays the trouble of non-tendering him.

bluejayspwn
4 years 9 months ago

agreed, i say we make a low pickup like miguel tejada and deall him at the deadline like we did with alex gonzales

WiiCat
4 years 9 months ago

Is there a penalty for non-tendering? From what I know, this move doesn’t really change anything, except getting a return for Encarnacion (MTBNL or cash).

briantalletsmoustache
4 years 9 months ago

Nope, I think clubs expose players to waivers in the offseason like this as it lets the players either get claimed by a club that wants them (E5) or become a free agent (Wise, Tallet) much earlier than if they had to wait to be non-tendered. Basically, it’s a courtesy to the players from management as it lets them start looking for their new contract right away. I always view it as rather classy on the parts of management.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Not the biggest E5 fan, but for some reason I have a good feeling about this.

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

I’ll take his 2008 line in the middle of the A’s lineup. Of course, his 2008 line came from one of the best hitters parks in the NL, so…

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I just like seeing hitters go to the pressureless AL West.

pastlives
4 years 9 months ago

weird so does this mean the A’s plan on tendering him? He was going to be a FA anyway, why would the A’s wanna put up 5M+ for him?

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

They believe in re-Encarnacion.

M_Harden
4 years 9 months ago

Hahaha, nice!

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

Well played sir well played. I bet you’ve been saving that joke up for quite some time lol

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

Ha ha ha!….naaaah. Reincarnation (well, “reencarnación”) was just the obvious answer while responding to a guy called “pastlives!” :-p

4 years 9 months ago

Well, you just made your weekly quota of Likes.

Ian_Smell
4 years 9 months ago

Best comment ever.

4 years 9 months ago

63 likes for a comment… that’s gotta be an MLBTR record. That or some guy teeing off on the Yankees that had 50 likes or so.

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

Well don’t look now but there’s even more! :)
Glad it’s over some good fun – not bashing (don’t we have enough of that on this board as it is?).

DanHaren
4 years 9 months ago

holy, you got 63 likes!

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

And “YOU” are one of my favorite pitchers!

ThinkBlue10
4 years 9 months ago

wow, 107 likes! nice.

Infield Fly
4 years 9 months ago

😉 Thanks bro!

pastlives
4 years 9 months ago

HAHA well played man

dizzle4
4 years 9 months ago

I was wondering the exact same thing. I guess they’re just keep their options open for now – they could still wind up non-tendering him.

M_Harden
4 years 9 months ago

They probably plan on working out a contract with Encarnacion. I’m sure he’d be willing to accept something in the neighborhood of two million a year.

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

What’s the point though? He’s essentially the same hitter as Kouz, but nowhere near as good a defender.

Scratch that. In a down year, E5 put up an OPS 100 points higher than Kouz.

4 years 9 months ago

he’s got a little more power (I think) and his career OBP is .336 compared to .302 for Kouz

Not a HUGE upgrade but I just think Encarnacion is much more of a home run threat which all the A’s really need.

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

Moving from a neutral park to a cavernous pitcher’s park is all E5 needs to knock 30 points off his SLG%…

JaySchu
4 years 9 months ago

Another marginal upgrade…

Dwan
4 years 9 months ago

E5

4 years 9 months ago

Goodbye Kouzmanoff it seems. They’ll either trade or nontender him soon.

rockfordone
4 years 9 months ago

Cleveland for a A player

sfarstad
4 years 9 months ago

It’s the A’s who get the “E” on this play, in more ways than one!

Dev0
4 years 9 months ago

Or they see E5 as a LFer

briantalletsmoustache
4 years 9 months ago

Given that all his errors come on throws, that may not be the best idea . . .

4 years 9 months ago

DH. Jays shoulda kept him.

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 9 months ago

not worth the 5 mill he would make

PJaysW
4 years 9 months ago

It boggles my mind that he was never considered for the vacancy at 1B seeing as how he is an above average fielder, but probably the worst arm in the majors. He can make some incredible quick plays and ‘snap’ throws, but hit him a routine grounder and its in the dirt, ten feet to the side or airmailed. Overbay helped him on a number of occasions, but he’ll be a disaster at third without an ace for a glove at first.

Watch out for E5, his bat could really surprise. He has such effortless power/ He’s been riddled with different injuries and missed most of spring training last year with a recovering wrist. He also spend some of the off season last year recovering from burns to his face from a fire works fight with his brother. All of that after the injury problems he had in Cincinnati.

4 years 9 months ago

Because moving him to 1B raises the standard you hold his bat against.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

he would be an upgrade over overbay.

jpkinney7
4 years 9 months ago

“he’ll be a disaster at third without an ace for a glove at first.” – Daric Barton is the best 1B in the game.

PJaysW
4 years 9 months ago

i was speaking in general terms, but you’re right that if he is intended for 3B, Barton should have fun sprawling all over for E5’s junk.

yankee2195
4 years 9 months ago

I wonder who won the trade between the Reds and B-Jays involving Rolen and Encarnacion? Hmm I wonder…

4 years 9 months ago

Except….it was Rolen for Encarnacion, Roenicke (who should be a big part of the pen this year) and Zach Stewart, who is one of the Jays better prospects. Encarnacion was just a salary equalizer, not the main piece in the deal.

yankee2195
4 years 9 months ago

true true, you have your point. your side makes more sense. i just wasnt thinking of the complete deal.

dizzle4
4 years 9 months ago

Well the Jays got Josh Roenicke, who could turn into a good reliever, and more importantly, Zach Stewart, who is probably a top-20 pitching prospect (not overall), so it’s not as clear-cut as it seems.

Keith Y
4 years 9 months ago

the reds made the jays take encarnacion if they wanted zach stewart and roenicke
just another yankees fan trying to hate on other teams in the division

ju1ced
4 years 9 months ago

I wonder if there are any Yankee fans out there that can look past their fat payrol to realize there are other teams than just them. Any ‘real’ baseball fan knows Encanacion was a throw in, in that trade, and the Jays got to very good prospects in Stewart and Roenicke. Considering Rolen didn’t want to play on the Toronto turf anymore, and was making $10M+, it was a good trade for both sides.

4 years 9 months ago

Considering Rolen asked for a trade out of town and was pretty specific in his preferred destinations, I would consider getting a replacement 3B to hold the fort along with 2 solid prospect arms a very nice return. Don’t forget it also saved the Jays 5.5m in 2010 at 3B, money they spent well on the draft and the international market. The trade was a win for both sides.

4 years 9 months ago

Apparently the A’s decided they were getting a little TOO good at defense.

Time to come back to the pack a bit.

4 years 9 months ago

we did considering we still have Zach Stewart!

suPaFreaK
4 years 9 months ago

Anyone think they’re still looking for a big time bat or is it just me? Fielder, Kemp, Berkman?

4 years 9 months ago

I guess not a bad pickup for the A’s who I guess are willing to spend money on gambles… Is he due 5mil from us then if we keep him? Or do the A’s get to renegotiate a contract?

mpleau
4 years 9 months ago

why arent the mariners picking him up. cmon jack. id say you have more than a little something to prove after last year

TheodoreRoosevelt
4 years 9 months ago

To be fair, many Mariners fans have “something to prove” in that case, given the general cock-a-hoop reaction to Jack “Genius” Z’s trading last off-season 😉

azdsnd
4 years 9 months ago

Meh. He’ll be valuable enough to be worth $5MM, but just barely. It’s hard to argue with a one-year, fair-market deal for anybody, though.

AJCBE
4 years 9 months ago

Let’s just hope he doesn’t blow himself up with fireworks again.

4 years 9 months ago

Incoming Mark Reynolds trade???

Frees up third base so I’m thinking that either:

A) Jays trade for Mark Reynolds and send a good SP like Rzepcynski, with prospects in return.

B) Jays sign/trade for a big name outfielder and Bautista plays third base.

Seems like a distinct possibility to me, although I’d appreciate a 3B incoming with a much lower strikeout rate.

M_Harden
4 years 9 months ago

I’ve always wondered about this, and Rzepczenski is one of the guys I would have wanted in return. He’s a groundball specialist who could be a solid 3/4 starter in the NL. Maybe Brad Emaus as well, and Eric Thames. The Jays don’t really give up anything significant, and they get a solid third baseman in return.

ukJaysfan
4 years 9 months ago

I know I’m wrong here. But with his former coach promoted to the big league staff, I could see Hechavarria promoted to the bigs early on in the season to make a DP combo with Escobar – with Aaron Hill moved to 3rd. I would argue its crazy early to promote him – but I could see it happening.

M_Harden
4 years 9 months ago

That would make no sense on any level.

ukJaysfan
4 years 9 months ago

Just putting out ideas. The Jays braintrust don’t exactly leave us many breadcrumbs. Can’t fault a guy for trying to find his way through the forest!

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

His bat is not ready and what’s the rush?

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 9 months ago

Nothing wrong here thinking outside of the box. If a player shit might happen, Escobar could move to 3rd (he’s got the arm) Hechavarria plays SS and Hill continues playing 2nd.
Escobar could mentor Hech. That too is just a thought.
From what i have read, Hech’s D is mlb ready, its the bat that needs some work

4 years 9 months ago

No way Yunel goes to third. He’s a short stop. Hill will go to third if anyone does, and because Adeiny hasn’t seen that much big league action and he’s still young, he, if anyone swapped positions, would go to 2B.

Lloyd Parsons
4 years 9 months ago

Totally agreed, Management apparently was the one asking Hill to move over to 3B.
Maybe the buzz floating around an O-Dawg return is correct. My guess as a 1 year deal until Hechavarria is ready. Then Escobar is moved to 2nd probably in 2012.

Jays4life
4 years 9 months ago

Escobar is NOT switching to 2nd from short, Hechavarria is playing 2nd base next year. It was all over the bluejays scouting pages that he is going to be groomed for 2nd and escobar is the shortstop of the future. Things can change but until that happens Hill is pegged for 3rd sooner or later and Esco and Hech will for the shortstop/second base dou.

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

I’d say nothing is likely in the plans. It was obvious E5 sucked and we didn’t want him and this gives Jays some option such as moving Bautista to 3rd and traded for an outfielder like Upton, Rasmus, Kemp, Ellsbury etc…

Nothing is likely imminent but it gives Jays options.

Dev0
4 years 9 months ago

Or the jays are trying to get Alex Gordon which was already stated.

Alex
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t understand this from the A’s perspective, really. Is Encarnacion really that much of an upgrade over Kouzmanoff with the bat that the A’s are willing to pay more AND suffer Encarnacion’s inferior defense? Their slash lines seem pretty similar to me; Encarnacion hit a couple more homers, but had a lower AVG.

JaySchu
4 years 9 months ago

It doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense, and neither did the DeJesus trade. Maybe Beane is taking on money simply to avoid the hassle the Marlins had last offseason with MLB and the MLPA over their too-low payroll. Maybe it’s why he gave out the Sheets deal last year too.

Alex
4 years 9 months ago

I actually didn’t mind the DeJesus trade, the A’s clearly have a surplus of young pitching, and swapping some of it for an above-average outfielder just getting off a career year and still in his prime sounds like a decent deal to me.

4 years 9 months ago

The math –

A’s need offense. A’s have defense. Edwin has offense. Edwin does not have defense.

Edwin, while being mostly counterproductive, therefore fits the needs and surpluses of the A’s.

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

If only he could learn to throw properly, I think he would be good at defense and he did improve in the 2nd half. He’s got the range IMO but he can’t throw properly even if a ball is hit right at him.

I don’t see why A’s made this move or Dejesus…

4 years 9 months ago

That’s weird. I’ve seen him make good throws, he never seems to make too many bad throws.

It’s the glove that fails him. He either doesn’t get to the ball, or the ball gets through him.

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

Usually is but this year, he was slightly below average in UZR and UZR/150 and I don’t think that was the big problem like before but the guy can’t throw at all. Even routine plays where he has the all the time in the world but he finds a way to mess it up.

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

It all comes down to this: Does 100 more points in OPS outweigh the best defensive third baseman in the game?

AsFanDFW
4 years 9 months ago

If he’s spending most of his time at DH and we keep Kouz, you don’t have to worry about his bad defense. He’ll just be a backup 3B.