Twins Agree To Terms With Carl Pavano

The Twins have agreed to terms with right-hander Carl Pavano on a two-year, $16.5MM contract, according to a team press release.  Pavano will earn $8MM next season and $8.5MM in 2012, plus an extra $500K should he reach certain incentive clauses.  A deal between the club and the veteran starter has seemed imminent for the last two weeks, and the two sides were said to be "very close" to a contract just yesterday.  Pavano is represented by Tom O'Connell.

Pavano, 35, has pitched well for the Twins since joining the team in August 2009.  Pavano has posted a 3.97 ERA and a 3.32 K/BB ratio in 44 starts as a Twin, and his seven complete games last season tied Cliff Lee for most in the American League.

Pavano's deal resembles the contract Joel Pineiro signed almost exactly a year ago, a comparison MLBTR's Tim Dierkes drew in late December.  In November, three of five MLBTR writers correctly predicted Pavano would remain with the Twins.

Ken Davidoff of Newsday was the first to report the deal had been finalized, while Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star Tribune and USA Today's Bob Nightengale added contract details.


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102 Comments on "Twins Agree To Terms With Carl Pavano"


Chuck Norris
4 years 7 months ago

Thats what I’m talking about 😉

JA
4 years 7 months ago

Happy day in Twins land. Here’s to good health Carl!

Rashomon
4 years 7 months ago

mega dittos

Mauerneau
4 years 7 months ago

Seems like if nothing else the Yankees drove up his price..

Green_Monster
4 years 7 months ago

Drove up his price? He only got 2 year $16.5 mill. Which is a discount considering three months ago he wanted a 3 year $30 mill deal.

Mauerneau
4 years 7 months ago

Go back and read the Pavano yankees thread. The Yankees forced the Twins to offer a second year. There’s no way the Twins were ever going to give the guy 3 years or 10 million or he would have signed 2 months ago.

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 7 months ago

Not really a discount. Maybe a discount from what he WANTED, but it’s not like this contract is that great. It’s going to be fine for the 1st year, but that 2nd yr, at age 37, I doubt he lives up to his $8.5M, especially with his health problems.

CreepyPockets
4 years 7 months ago

He’ll only be 36 in year two, just turned 35 a few days ago. Not that it changes much of what you said…

0bsessions
4 years 7 months ago

Plus, his arm is fresh thanks to those four years off the Yankees gave him. He may be a 35 year old, but he’s got the rotator cuff of a 31 year old!

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

Southsiders get another two years of teeing off on the moustache? Excellent.

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

He went 3-1 against the Sox last year. Careful what you wish for.

lug
4 years 7 months ago

As a White Sox fan I agree this helps the Twins. His baseball card outside of 03 and 04 does show that he is healthy one year and then injured for 2 sometimes 3 years. Seems like a risky deal with his injury prone career. If he is healthy it is a steal, but he has not proven that he can stay healthy. Last time he got money he was a nightmare for the Yanks and they got the payroll to bail themselves out. Good luck guys can’t wait for baseball.

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

He should be fine this year, and next year the Twins have considerable money coming off the books (20-30 mil: mostly from Cuddyer, Capps and Nathan). Even if he is not able to give the Twins 200+ IP in 2011 and 2012 he isn’t going to kill the payroll.
He should be coming off the books when a couple of prospects should be ready to take on fulltime rotation duty (Gibson and Wimmers).

Karkat
4 years 7 months ago

He also had an ERA over 5 against the White Sox last year, so you can view that both ways.

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

Bingo. He was hit hard last year.

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

He was hit hard, yet still won. I’ll take that every day. The W is the most important thing and he still got them.

4 years 7 months ago

he got lucky with run support, your logic fails

twins33
4 years 7 months ago

I will still take that any day. As I said, a W is a W. We beat the White Sox three times while Pavano was pitching. Beating the White Sox is something that we have to do to win the division and beating the Tigers is something we have to do to win the division.

The Twins record against the White Sox since 2001 is 106-80. Against the Tigers it’s 113-73. A big part of making the playoffs is beating the teams who are your biggest competition within the division.

The Twins have to beat these two teams and for the most part, they have. I will take that W any way the Twins can get it. The White Sox can seek comfort in hitting Pavano hard and losing, since they prefer that to winning.

0vercast
4 years 7 months ago

His numbers were as good in ’09 vs. CWS and DET and they were bad in ’10. He was 6-2 with a combined ERA of about 2.75 against CWS and DET in ’09.

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

He got shelled one outing for a loss, gave up 5 in a win, and then had 2 very good games for wins. ERA is a bad metric to use in a 4-game sample size, but it’s safe to say he was respectable.

Adil
4 years 7 months ago

less than what i thought he would get

knucka11
4 years 7 months ago

Definitely, everything we’ve heard has been around 10 million per year. He definitely came down from that 3/30 he reportedly wanted three months ago

wintwins
4 years 7 months ago

I think he may legitimately enjoy playing for the Twins so who knows maybe he even gave them a slight discount and it may have been hard for him to find a second year guarantee somewhere else.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

doubtful considering that there was little to no market for him other than the pirates, nats, recently the yankees and twins.

wintwins
4 years 7 months ago

Well maybe its a bold statement, but I definitely think the second year guarantee drove the price down cause I’m sure the Yanks offered more cash

4 years 7 months ago

Pavano should fire his agent!! His agent totally misread the market…I’m glad he went back to the Twins, and I think it’s a reasonable cost for the Twins!! Great work Bill!!

quintjs
4 years 7 months ago

Twins did well here – it is a decent price.

nats2012
4 years 7 months ago

I thought they signed him last week?

TwinsVet
4 years 7 months ago

Can’t argue with that pricetag. Certainly less than he’d have scored in arbitration.

4 years 7 months ago

Yeah that’s true. He got 7 in arbitration last year before having an outstanding 2010. The type A hanging around his neck ended up biting him. Definitely glad to have him back at that price.

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

I agree that he probably could have gotten more in Arbitration, but I think he knows this is his last shot at a multi-year deal, even if it is only 2 years.

4 years 7 months ago

HAHAHAHAHA YESSS HE DIDN’T GO TO THE YANKEES…THEY ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A GOOD SEASON THE RATE THEIR GOIN (starting pitching wise)

Green_Monster
4 years 7 months ago

Ya…. because they threw their selves at him and wanted him so bad. Don’t take you anger out on the caps. I am a Red Sox fan and really don’t like the Yankees, but to say they will have a bad year is crazy. They have a top 5 lineup and a really good bullpen. They have a good front three, Nova could take 4 or five spot, all they need is some more pitching depth.

Karkat
4 years 7 months ago

Signing Pavano would have been a terrible PR move for the Yankees. All my Yankee fan friends seem to get visibly angry if I even *mention* him (which, of course, I do regularly >:D).

For the Yankees pitching this season, a lot of it is going to come down to whether or not AJ Burnett can be the #2 guy they signed him to be. (Their lineup will probably carry them to a Wild Card berth anyway though…)

4 years 7 months ago

yeah and the red sox will beat them in the play offs and i think the red sox have what it takes to go far this year

MB923
4 years 7 months ago

Yes and I’m sure the Mets are going to have a better season right?

4 years 7 months ago

they could actually… they have the talent, they just need to stay healthy…look at their line up reyes pagan (who has improved a lot last year) wright(who pretty much bounced back last season) beltran (when healthy is a major threat in the line up) bay(needs to have a bounce back season and be like the 2009 bay) davis (will continue to improve himself and become a more powerful first baseman) their rotation is a pretty good rotation, when santana gets back santana (returns strong and healthy) big pelf (hopefully starts the way he did last year and carries that the whole season) dickey (develops his knuckle ball and has an even better season than last year) young (stays healthy and returns to old form)

IF all these things happen then yes the mets COULD have a better season than the yankees

Green_Monster
4 years 7 months ago

Yes, because all of those will happen. The mets won’t be good for a long time

4 years 7 months ago

I think they will surprise people this year…and next off season they have a huge mount of payroll commin off (like 60 million) Alderson knows what hes doin and i think he can rebuild a team with 60 million dollars

4 years 7 months ago

I think Sandy Alderson was dealt the baseball equivalent of a 2-7 off suit (for those of you who know texas hold ’em poker) The Mets have 5 really bad contracts that will come off the books at the end of 2011: Beltran, Castillo, Perez, Reyes, and F.Rodriguez.

I feel Alderson has made some very wise economical choices for FA signings this offseason, and know he will rebuild the Mets back to a contender….but this is a 2-3 yr overhaul. I agree they have an excellent young nucleus in Wright, Davis, Bay, and possibly Reyes (if he could ever stay healthy) I know anything can happen, however most feel 2011 will be a tough year for the Mets.

4 years 7 months ago

thank you for kinda supporting me here… yes it is a project that will take a year or two , if Omar was still the GM id agree with Green_Monster on taking a while, but no this is a new ERA for the NYM now that Alderson has stepped in. But i still think they have a possibility of surprising many people next year

4 years 7 months ago

Yeah, Alderson was the GM for the Athletics from 1983-1998. He built those tremendously talented Athletics teams of the late 80’s early 90’s. Another bright spot for the Mets is they have three former GM’s working in their front office under Alderson, so the future will be better for the Mets. As the old saying goes.. “it’s always darkest before the dawn”…2011 will likely be “before dawn” for the 2011 Mets.

4 years 7 months ago

There is no way the mets will be better than .500. and 0 chance of winning the division Why you say? you have the PHILLIES in your division! I do give you credit for being a mets fan at least you cheer for a team that doesnt buy titles. The Twins signing Pavano adds a starting pitching depth (very good pitching depth) and keeps them in the running to win the division. They still lack bullpen pitching which obviously they need.

Bernaldo
4 years 7 months ago

At this point in the season – before spring training begine, before any regular season games are played – every bad team has a “possibility of surprising many people”! If everything breaks their way, if enough guys have career years and no one gets it hurt, the Mets have “a possibility of surprising people” – but so do the Pirates,Nationals, D-Backs, Royals, Indians, and Mariners.

JA
4 years 7 months ago

Wow! This is a great deal! Twins stick to their # and get the deal done.

4 years 7 months ago

I absolutely love this signing for Pavano! He returns to a team that he has pitched well for the past 1 1/2 seasons and to a pitcher friendly park. He also doesn’t have the pressure of being the “ace” as he would have on the Pirates. The best part is he can pitch in MIN away from the media spotlight, and only have a handful of games to pitch against the AL Beast!! I just hope Nathan can come back this year and be a force in the pen as he has for so many years.

4 years 7 months ago

I still think he would have been a good choice for the nationals…they are an uprising team and if they had gotten pavano it would make them even better

Green_Monster
4 years 7 months ago

They got Gorzelanny and have a good group of young guys. They stopped trying to get him a while ago.

4 years 7 months ago

yeah but they still have some money left to have gotten pavano, and a rotation (when strasburg comes back) of strasburg pavano and gorzelanny is pretty good for a team that has been a last place team for a while now

woadude
4 years 7 months ago

Great signing by the Twins, wow is all I can say about the pitchers not going to New York, Pavano to me owes New York for the robbery he pulled on them.

wintwins
4 years 7 months ago

robbery? he didn’t pay himself

woadude
4 years 7 months ago

Robbery as in they paid him to be on the bench, they got all of about 20 innings out of him.

wintwins
4 years 7 months ago

how do you rob something that is being paid to you?

Green_Monster
4 years 7 months ago

The Yankees were not throwing their selves at him. They did not try their hardest to get him. If the Yankees want someone, they get him, unless the guy is taking a pay cut to play somewhere else (Lee)

4 years 7 months ago

Kerry Wood too

woadude
4 years 7 months ago

actually in the 2003 of off season they DID throw themselves at him and paid him 40 million to have a good time on the DL for the good 4 years they had him.

mauerfan
4 years 7 months ago

Steal

4 years 7 months ago

All I can say is…. IT’S ABOUT F**KING TIME!!!!

This deal has taken SOOOO long to get done…it looks like a win-win for both Pavano and the Twins

4 years 7 months ago

Makes Westbrook seem like a borderline signing now

Rashomon
4 years 7 months ago

Carl better buy Drew a steak in Fort Myers

Lard_Rear
4 years 7 months ago

Twinkie fans rejoice. This guy is a sap.

His free agency timing was perfect, and while he didn’t get what he wanted, he is still going to be grossly overcompensated for what he will do these next couple seasons. He is a very mediocre talent, and if it weren’t for the dearth of pitching in the major leagues, this guy would be working for the TSA or flipping burgers.

Rashomon
4 years 7 months ago

Maybe when this two-year contract’s up you can talk to your manager about bringing Carl on board

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

nice…

rbeezy
4 years 7 months ago

thought he would get more, must be a discount for injury risk?

4 years 7 months ago

Nicely done TWINS!! A White Sox KILLER! I’d just like to point out the fact that Carl Pavano outperformed each and every white sox starter last season. This is a great sign for the Twins. Thome and Pavano back, now let’s hope the Japanese batting champ is the real deal!

foxtown
4 years 7 months ago

Outperformed every white sox starter in what way? Please cite which stats you are obviously cherry picking. I agree that he had a great year, but what will you think if he returns to his career averages next season?

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

How about: Wins (17), WHIP (1.19), IP (221), CG (7, more than the entire CWS Rotation), Shut Outs (2, as many as entire CWS staff), BB/9 (1.5). Not to mention he was only 0.03 away from Buerhle in ERA.
It isn’t cherry picking when it is that many stats.

4 years 7 months ago

Thanks nick. Stats speak for themselves.

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

also… I would take his career average: 4.15 FIP with a 46% GB rate. That coupled with solid innings that protect the BP and mentoring to young pitchers: well worth 16.5 million.

lug
4 years 7 months ago

an ERA over 5 against any team aint killin nothin dude.

4 years 7 months ago

how many times did you beat pavano last year???

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

If he pitches the same way against this year’s lineup, the moustache ride will be a sad one this year.

nick1538
4 years 7 months ago

this year’s lineup? The only change is Dunn… I guess Pavano will get 2 more Ks per start against the Sox!

patrick3444
4 years 7 months ago

I feel pretty good about this signing because it’s a lot less than I thought they would have to pay. He’s been huge for the Twins while Slowey, Baker, and Blackburn have struggled. Even with Pavano and Thome back, the Twins offseason has disappointing IMO. White Sox and Tigers improve while the Twins lose Crain, Guerrier, Fuentes, Rauch, and Hardy. Hopefully a couple starters and relievers step up to bring another AL Central title to Minnesota.

sonofkenny
4 years 7 months ago

I don’t know…seems like I hear every year how much improved the White Sex and Tigers are…and yet the Twins have been the dominate team in the central for the last decade. Adding Morneau and Nathan, who were out most of last year is like adding two all stars to your roster. We will get a full year of Valencia at third and Duensing as a starter. I think the player out of Japan will be an upgrade over Hardy. If Nathan is truly back Capps will make a great set up man. They need to shore up middle relief which I imagine they will do between now and the start of the season.

4 years 7 months ago

Its all good for the Twins as long as the stache is still under his nose.