Gary Sheffield Retires

Gary Sheffield has officially filed his retirement papers, according to George A. King III of the New York Post. After 22 seasons with the Marlins, Dodgers, Brewers, Yankees, Braves, Padres, Tigers and Mets, the 42-year-old is ready to retire. He says his numbers have earned him a shot a Cooperstown.

"I am sure it will be mentioned and debated, but from my standpoint I know who is in the Hall of Fame," Sheffield said. "A lot of them don't belong in the Hall of Fame. If someone wants to debate me, check the stats."

Sheffield posted a .292/.393/.514 line with 509 homers and 1676 RBI in the majors. The nine-time All-Star and five-time Silver Slugger recipient won a batting title and has a career OPS+ of 140. Sheffield came up as a shortstop before transitioning to third base and then the outfield. Sheffield, who earned about $168MM in his career, according to Baseball-Reference, ranks 24th all-time in career home runs.


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  1. But the real question is, is he “all the way” retired?

    • Motor_City_Bombshell 4 years ago

      He hasn’t played in over a year and isn’t fielding any offers…I’d say yes.

      • Chuck345 4 years ago

        He also wasn’t doing much fielding when he was fielding.

        • Motor_City_Bombshell 4 years ago

          Mmhmm…those days in Detroit when he manned left field made me want to run my 8-year-old brother out there…I’m positive he could cover more ground than Sheffield could.

  2. AmericanMovieFan 4 years ago

    If he’s filed and hasn’t played for a year and had the last season he had and hates the corporate side of the game as much as he does…yeah, he’s retired. But hey, steroids or not, he’s got one of the all time great careers, played on some amazing teams, stayed relevant much longer than most guys do. Kudos to him. Job well done. All that good stuff.

    • Right, if you ignore the racist comments against joe torre, and the roid usage, one of the best! Oh and the nonstop arrogant comments.

      Guy was a moron, glad hes retiring but he will never be in the hall of fame.

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        I don’t believe what he accused Torre of is true but you can’t be called a racist just because you felt that some treated you poorly due to racism.

        Would David Wright be a racist if he accused Minaya, years from now, of showing preferential treatment towards Latinos by giving them more money and more perks?WE may have our own opinions but can we dismiss it simply because we don’t agree? Would Wright be a racist because we may not agree? Of course not.

        As for arrogance, please. These are athletes, some of the best of the best.MOST OF THEM reek of arrogance.

        • He constantly used his race as an excuse and had this “im black the white world hates me screw all you whities” attitude.

          Oh, and calling latin american ball players easy to control is racist.

      • Casor_Greener 4 years ago

        Didn’t he admit to using the cream for 1 summer, so all those 500 home runs resulted from 1 summer of creme. WOW!!!!

      • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

        Wait theres more, how about when he said he was the best player on every team he played for

    • He will never be a hall of famer. He was too arrogant, racist, and used roids.

      As for all time greats I wouldnt even put him in the top 30 over the past 20 years.

      • Arrogance and racism aren’t qualities you need to lack to get in. Pretty sure they would have banned Ty Cobb if that were the case.

        • But he never used roids, sorry if its not clear but those are 3 things that will keep you out all together 😛 Mostly the roids, I just threw in the racist and arrogant things to take him down a few more notches.

          • BravesRed 4 years ago

            Actually, he did admit using a steroid cream. I’m not gonna post a link, but if you search “Gary Sheffied steroids” then that should come up with some things.

          • ? I was talking about ty cobb never using roids. Sheffield never tested positive, but yea he did admit to using the cream for his knees right?

          • Hubbs2 4 years ago

            People need to get over the steroids thing. Do you honestly think nobody used it before recently??? Watch the Bob Costas special with Aaron and Mays, they all but admit they took them. Amphetamines work in much of the same way and were a problem for years.

          • Ok, go tell that to the hall of fame, which is my argument that he will not get in because of it. What point are you trying to make?

          • Casor_Greener 4 years ago

            And probably because you are too

          • Lol really?

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            So by your measure a “violent, blatant racist” is ok if you can mash and didn’t use the “clear” ?

          • by the hall of fames measure….

            Also the times were different in ty cobbs era, I dont agree with it but it was a completely different time in america.

          • Ty Cobb in today’s social climate wouldn’t last long in baseball, or at least I hope not. Michael Vick got a second chance, but he is a puppy dog compared to Ty Cobb. I don’t think Ty Cobb is someone anybody should look up to, I’m just saying his being elected to the hall was based on his achievements as a player back then, if the HOF just opened today I don’t see him getting votes.

          • Am I really the only one who caught “but he is a puppy dog…”?

        • At least in the case of Ty Cobb, a horrible human being, you can’t deny his ability to play at an incredibly high level at a time when it was harder to hit a baseball than it is now. If steroids were available to him then, who knows if he would have used them. Steroids can’t help you hit the ball, but it can help you hit it out, and Sheffield’s claim to to the HOF is largely based on his ability to hit it out.

          • You can’t ban a guy from the HOF if their steroid use wasn’t confirmed. Most of us figure he cheated, but speculation with probable intent isn’t enough to so much as accuse him of anything. Unless I’ve been under a rock for 5 years, I don’t recall any affirmative judgment made on his using drugs that were against MLB rules.

          • Carl Langley 4 years ago

            This is exactly why Jeff Bagwell didn’t make it in this year and may not make it in for another few years – doubt.

      • Do you really think being a bad person has kept other players with bad personalities out of the hall? I think not.

        • for players on the fence, and he is at best on the fence, yes I do. He used roids, although he never tested positive, so the three things combined will keep him out, mostly the roids though.

          • I agree for players on the fence, but having used steroids and being a despicable human being isn’t going to keep Barry Bonds or A-Rod out of the hall. So it’s really not an end all-be all argument against a player, but it can probably keep you out.

          • So I accidently like this lol.

            I disagree, I think they will keep bonds out even though I think he should be in, but not sheffield. Rodriguez might get in but idk. I would put bonds in because before 1999 he was the only player in mlb history with 400 sb and 400 hrs. However I think the hall will tell him and all the other roiders to screw off.

          • Hubbs2 4 years ago

            Ricky Henderson got in, you could very easily come to the conclusion that he “juiced”

          • ….really? He never admitted to it under a grand jury nor is he being indicted because of it. Sheffield did….Bonds is being indicted, A rod admitted to it.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Aside from the steroids, how is he on the fence? Because you don’t like him? Just look at guys in that 500-600hr range and he had better numbers than Murray, McCovey, Banks, Matthews, Schmidt, Jackson, etc

          • Though I don’t think he is a first ballot guy given the taint of steroids and numbers in comparison with other steroid era players, his offensive numbers would present a solid case for entry even with his semi-sub-par defensive numbers. I’d say it takes a few years but he will eventually make it in. He was a feared hitter in his day.

          • The roids put him on the fence, isnt that clear in my post?

          • vonhayesdays 4 years ago

            Schmidt won gold gloves and mvps though , but i would have to agree if he never admitted using this guy would probably be first ballot

          • Dodgerblue18 4 years ago

            You defend the players too much. I think you feel that every fan is out to bash the players. I wouldn’t even wanna hear you talk about a Yankee you’ve probably written a book about that. Sheffield has a poor attitude and thinks he is one of the greatest around. His head is too big for his own good. Steroids or not, the roid thing still looms around him and always will especially after the “cream” incident. Manny is another example except he is just more of a clubhouse cancer. Not to mention that he is a joke of a defender and embarassment on the field. Dodgers got hosed by him and his antics, just like every other team he is on. Fact is, if your name and steroids have ever been mentioned in the same sentence, your chances of going to the hall of fame are greatly reduced. Sheffield’s simple big headed quote in this article is enough to decrease his chances. He thinks he deserves to be in the elite, when we all know he doesn’t have enough to get in. Go outside, play some catch or something.. you’re on here too much.

        • ejr 4 years ago

          in the past, no, but these days, yes. Not sure if it’s fair or right, but there’s so much focus on ‘character’ now that Sheffield might be left out with some others, even as Ty Cobb and others got in.

        • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

          Albert Belle

      • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

        He changed teams 9 times. There’s a hint that he didn’t really get along with his teammates.

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          So did Fred McGriff (7x) and he was one of the nicest guys in baseball. Doesn’t prove anything. Barry Bonds is widely considered one of the biggest jerks and he only played for 2.

      • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

        Maybe Sheffield can get some golf in this spring with Albert Belle and Carl Evertte

    • Hubbs2 4 years ago

      His swing was a true joy to watch.

  3. MB923 4 years ago

    Worst defensive player in the history of baseball lol. Also the only player to ever hit his 500th HR wearing a Mets uniform.

    HOF or no? I say No until Palmeiro, McGwire and the others get in.

    • MB923 4 years ago

      Plus I wonder if it’s just 1 big coincidence that the 9 worst defensive players of all time have played in the steroid era (1990 – present)

      1. Gary Sheffield
      2. Manny Ramirez
      3. Bernie Williams
      4. Ricky Guiterrez
      5. Bobby Bonilla
      6. Danny Tartabull
      7. Adam Dunn
      8. Juan Samuel
      9. Derek Jeter

      And Sheffield was the worst by a far margin over Manny

      Sheffield -204.7, Manny -155.7

      The difference between Sheffield and Manny is More than the difference between Manny (2nd) and Jeter (0th). Jeter is -113.4

      • The_Silver_Stacker 4 years ago

        Jeter and Williams, you need to stop using drugs

        • David C. Ruckman 4 years ago

          The -113.4 runs figure is based on UZR and other defensive metrics, calculated by FanGraphs. Many have called Jeter the most overrated defensive talent of his generation, and the numbers prove it.

          If anything, the only drug mentionable here is a dose of “Reality,” available over the counter at your local pharamacy.

          • erm016 4 years ago

            I remember back when we had simple stats, Errors, Hits, RBI, etc not ERZGWERW and ASDRWRC from such and such.

          • East Coast Bias 4 years ago

            Don’t forget ERZGWERW/150 – I still don’t know what that means… (is it supposed to be a fraction?)

          • It means ERZGWERW over 150 games. If a players ERZGWERW is 5 in 10 games, it will be 75 ERZGWERW/150, attempting to project a player’s ERZGWERW throughout the season.

          • This upsets me, but also makes me laugh.

          • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

            I like to think of it as Jeter selling enough paraphernalia were he just gets gold gloves sometimes. Sort of like a high end skeel ball tickets system where if he drinks a drink with the label facing a camera enough times they just give him points to redeem on the awards his talents could never give him.

          • They call me Murphy 4 years ago

            LOL that’s why Jeter has how many gold gloves? It’s not like he won his first at 37 years old…..he’s been one of the best shortstops in the game since 95….put the crack pipe down

          • MB923 4 years ago

            LOL @ you using Gold Gloves as your backup.

        • ellisburks 4 years ago

          That wasn’t his opinion it was cold, hard numbers. Just because they are “True Yankees” and the NY media built them up to be super human does not mean it is true.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            I only liked it because I thought he was being sarcastic. Maybe he is maybe he isn’t.

          • They call me Murphy 4 years ago

            Didn’t you retire because you sucked?

          • ellisburks 4 years ago

            I am not really Ellis Burks, I am just a fan of his. However, Ellis did have a positive WAR every year until his last in 2004 when he only played 11 games. He did not retire because he sucked. He retired because his knees were so banged up that he was injecting rooster combs into them in order to keep playing. Ellis had a career 48.1 WAR while Bernie Williams had a 47.8. Ellis 352 HR, Bernie 287 HR. Ellis .874 OPS, .Bernie 858 OPS. So if Ellis Burks did indeed retire because he sucked, then Bernie must have sucked even more.

        • Defensively, in a pure physically talented way I believe he is overrated, but he possesses great instincts which probably allowed him to make up for not having a ton of range. Great hands and arm though and very consistent.

      • icedrake523 4 years ago

        Is that including his time as an infielder where he admitted to intentionally playing bad to be traded?

        • MB923 4 years ago

          Yes I would assume so. It’s on FanGraphs. I can’t post the link, but if you want to see it, click Leaders > Career > Batters (should be on that automatically) > Value > Fielding.

          When you click Fielding it should list the worst first. Of course if you click it a 2nd time, it will start with teh best fielders (Brooks Robinson is number 1)

          • I wouldn’t have suspected that about Williams, but isn’t it still a stretch to call him one of the worst defensive players of all time? He played CF. Maybe his bad career fielding values simply show he should have been in left.

          • MB923 4 years ago

            I was actually surprised myself to see Bernie on the list. I knew he’d be in the negatives but I didn’t think it would be the 3rd worst. But I see from 1996 to the end of his career Bernie had at Least a -3.0 UZR in every year, 8 times he reached double digits and 7 of those 8 times he recahed -15 or worse, some including in the -20’s, yikes. Man did he get worse and worse (according to FanGraphs)

          • Slopeboy 4 years ago

            In the case of Bernie Williams, this is where sabermetrics can and are often misleading. Bernie’s negative numbers are due to the fact that he could not throw out anyone from anywhere at any time. Any ball hit into the gaps were usually doubles or triples because the batters knew that coming out of the batters box and always challanged Bernie to throw them out.
            Williams was an above average ball hawk, using his speed to track down balls that most centerfielders could not, that’s why he spent his entire career in centerfield for the Yanks. Though it’s not considered an important award anymore, Williams has won multiple Gold Goves.What he could never do was throw.

          • Motor_City_Bombshell 4 years ago

            Just like Jeter’s horrible fielding values show he shouldn’t be playing short? 😉

          • ellisburks 4 years ago

            He was good when he started but his knees let him down near the middle and should not have been playing CF.

          • They call me Murphy 4 years ago

            Says the guy who couldn’t run down a fly ball if it hit him in the head….

          • ellisburks 4 years ago

            Um…Ellis Burks was an elite outfielder for the first 2/3 of his career. Then knee injuries took thier toll and he was not very mobile. I know this. He knew this. He switched to right field when he went to San Francisco because he still had a great arm and Bonds was in left. That is what a player does when he can no longer field the position, he moves on. Bernie and The Yankess did not do this. Burks did.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            I have to take some exception to those numbers. I’m not defending Jeter or Williams because they were/are both poor fielders for great parts of their careers. However, Field Values are listed as such.

            Fielding – Fielding Runs Above Average based on UZR

            Seeing as how UZR is a relatively new stats that is suppose to be heavily weighted on RangeRuns which is HUGELY dependent on “eyeball” observationsput into a formula then I don’t know how they would come up with Field Value for guys who played before 2000, let alone guys from 80’s and before. I would have to think that if that formula were true then there has to be a different criteria for the formula for a guy like Nap Lajoie (+83 Field Value, 1896-1916) vs Manny Ramirez (-157 Field Value).

            I mean we know who is bad and who isn’t but how can anyone have an intelligent conversation about field value from guys who played 30 years ago let alone d@mn near 100 years ago when the metric value charachteristics have been refined and re-evaluated so much in the last 5 to 8 years.

            Also, and it’s just my pet peeve, I have an extreme issue with hos UZR is used for IF’ers. We use it because ppl smarter than us say we should but a large portion of what influences UZR is based off of RangeRUns, which again, is hugely based off of someone watching a video and saying “he should of got that ball” and then using that determination and transfering it into a number that is then used in a formula. That finding seems to account for a huge value towards the UZR results.

        • MrSativa 4 years ago

          That alone will keep him out of the hall. I guess he was honest through his speech at times but has no integrity as a player.

      • MB923 4 years ago

        Edit- 9th for Jeter

      • They call me Murphy 4 years ago

        LOL did you just call Derek Jeter and Bernie Williams two of the WORST defensive players of all time? What crack are you on? Seriously. Do you not see the range that Jeter STILL has? As far as Bernie goes, NOBODY covered center field in the 90’s and early 2000’s like Bernie Williams. Put the reefer down….

        • ellisburks 4 years ago

          Yeah! I am with you Murphy. Just because everyone else in the world says that Bernie Williams covered less field in center than Eddie Gaedel and Jeter goes to his left worse than a statue of Honus Wagner, doesn’t mean it’s true. Let’s just deny the facts put in front of us until we die.

  4. ellisburks 4 years ago

    No HoF as long as they are keeping out steroid users. Plus he’s a jerk. Great hitter though.

    • MB923 4 years ago

      I don’t think being a Jerk excludes you from the HOF. Steroids, well duh for now.

      • ellisburks 4 years ago

        I didn’t mean that him being a jerk would exclude him for the HoF. They were two separate thoughts. He was a jerk though.

      • invader3k 4 years ago

        Should purposely playing bad exclude someone from HoF, though? Ask any Brewers fan about this guy and you’ll realize he has no place in Cooperstown.

        • MB923 4 years ago

          Should purposely playing bad exclude someone from HoF, though? Ask any Brewers fan about this guy and you’ll realize he has no place in Cooperstown.

          ——-

          Wouldn’t that exclude Manny also? Ask any Red Sox fan.

          • ellisburks 4 years ago

            Well there is the fertility drugs as well so there is a taint (eh uh) to Manny as well. I love what he did to help the Sox win 2 WS titles but characterwise and defensively he goes down a couple notches.

  5. Such humility.

  6. Michael Brown 4 years ago

    Steroids or not, I very much enjoyed his problem free years in an Atlanta uniform

  7. O971 4 years ago

    Sorry the Hall isn’t up to your standards, Sheff.

  8. This could very well end up much more entertaining than listening to Goose and Blyleven complain every year about not getting in if the writers shut him out for a period of time.

  9. MB923 4 years ago

    I’m actually very surprised Bonds is ahead of Mays on the fielding list (187.7 to 185.0)

    • You don’t remember Bonds in his skinny Pittsburgh years? He was a great all around player and then decided to bulk up.

      • Yea, I remember after the knee surgeries in sf towards the end he couldnt even stop himself, that one time he just ran right into the wall with plenty of room for a normal person to stop.

  10. 02waster 4 years ago

    Great player, reached post-season tons of times with different teams. I think he deserves to get in just because of that

    • Based on that criteria, Eric Hinske has a pretty good shot at the hall too.

      • 02waster 4 years ago

        Difference is Eric Hinske is a good player at best

        • ellisburks 4 years ago

          Well that might be a stretch. How about very good 24th man on the roster.

  11. ctiger14 4 years ago

    Way to keep it classy, Gary. We have come to expect nothing less. Seriously, the ink was barely dry on your retirement papers and you’re already campaigning for the HOF? Just go away. No one misses you.

  12. 02waster 4 years ago

    Sean Casey won’t ever get in because he’s the nicest guy in baseball. So Sheffield shouldn’t be out-casted because he’s an a$$.

    • 0bsessions 4 years ago

      Sean Casey won’t ever get in because he was merely slightly above average. He had one tool and that was hitting for average. He wouldn’t even make it into the Hall of Very Good.

  13. 65.8 career war, 509 HR, 1676 RBI. If he was a likable guy, no one would be slagging him for suggesting he is a HoFer. You don’t have to agree he is, but if you look past the personality, it’s a reasonable thing to debate. Not a laughable case AT ALL.

    • Numbers mean absolutely nothing when you are an admitted juicer. If you are going to argue for Sheff, why not Canseco? They both put up similar numbers…..around 40 less HR’s for Jose and about 20 less WAR in around 700 less games and 2000 less PA’s.

      See how absurd the Sheff for the HOF talk is?

      • mlbscout6 4 years ago

        Canseco put up similar numbers to Sheffield?

        Really?…Canseco had a .390 obp over his career?

        I’m not saying Sheff is a HOF’er or not, but saying Sheff can’t get in if Canseco can’t is just asinine. Has baseball gotten so homer-centric that players are judged and grouped together solely based on the number of homeruns they have hit?

  14. Motor_City_Bombshell 4 years ago

    Never a class act, was occasionally horrible when I watched him…but he was always an exciting hitter nonetheless. Maybe if he hadn’t hurt his shoulder in 2007 things may have been different for him later on in his career. Enjoy sitting poolside, Sheffield, while your number of votes into the Hall of Fame dwindle to nothing as the years slowly fade away.

  15. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    God, I hated that guy.

    And no, I have nothing of value to add here. But man, did I hate Gary Sheffield. I really don’t think I’ve ever hated a sports figure more than I hated Gary Sheffield. I would rather be locked in a room overnight with Milton Bradley, Paris Hilton and that dude from MTV like ten years ago who always wore like six ties (Jessie something?) than sit with Gary Sheffield for ten minutes. No, I don’t know why I hate him so much, but boy do I hate him.

  16. Gumby65 4 years ago

    Sheffield must be honored to be praised by the likes of Gary Sheffield.

  17. CitizenSnips 4 years ago

    He wasn’t already retired?

  18. sherrilltradedooverexperience 4 years ago

    sheff is not my favorite player. he forced me to loath him in his time in Los Angeles with his incessant carping in the press about $$$. That said, despite the ‘roids, he deserves in.

    Why?

    Because he was man enough to admit he used unlike a bunch of wishy-washy cowards that went up before congress with the false outrage before lying through their teeth only to get shown up with real proof a few years later (sheff still loses a few points for saying he ‘unknowingly’ took them thinking they were something else and didn’t know they were steroids until later).

    The Clemens’, Palmeiro’s, McGwire’s, and Bonds’ are the type of player that form the ‘should not get entry’ pool of players from that era. Yes, my criteria is totally unfair, difficult to impossible to apply, and rewards some steroid users while refusing to reward most, but i think the level of hypocrisy separates the ‘semi-bad guys who owned up’ versus the ‘totally rotten guys that sold their soul and are unredeemable at this point based on how they reacted to the inquiry.

  19. Sorry Gary, take a seat on the bench of the rejected along with Pete Rose, Raphael Palmerio and Mark McGwire. You’ll have company soon enough. Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens will be joining you soon. No one from the steroid era is going into the HOF. Darn moral clause…

    • MB923 4 years ago

      No one from the steroid era is going into the HOF

      ——-

      So no player within the past 10-20 years are going in? Despite some of them already being elected in such as the 3 R’s – Ripken, Ryan, Rickey?

      YOu specifically said No one from this era, which includes nearly every active player.

      • You people on here take things so literal. Dont make yourself seem so stupid by saying “well….3 of them got in”. You know what he meant.

        • MB923 4 years ago

          He very well could have meant what I said. What do you think this means- “No one from the steroid era is going into the HOF.”. I wasn’t aware that this doesn’t disqualify players that we “assume” did not use steroids, HGH, etc.

          Maybe he could have been more clear and say “No steroid user is going into the HOF”. According to Canseco, this wouldn’t apply actually because he mentioned in an article about a year ago that baseball is going to have a big problem when they find out there is a HOFer who used steroids. Although he did not give a specific name. And we know, despite him being as big, if not much a bigger jerk than Sheffield, he hasn’t said one lie.

    • Not until the old school writers all die and the writers who grew up in the steroid era vote them all in. The current writers are all just made because these 90s guys put up such rediculous stats they made their childhood favorites look terrible. All the guys you listed will get in but maybe not until the 2030s

  20. One of the biggest jerks to ever play this game. Good riddance.

  21. Boogey_Down_Bronx 4 years ago

    Its a shame he’s retiring now, the Yankees were looking at his health records so he could join the 2011 (2002) squad

  22. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Albert Belle should be in the HOF (See Ralph KIner, Kirby Puckett). The guy was sick and until I see his name on a list of users then he should be in. His name NEVER came up in ANY of the steroid related inquries, investigations or testimony. He was a mean dude but that shouldn’t matter. If it did then take a bunch of other guys already in and get them out.

  23. safari_punch 4 years ago

    Thank you for leaving us with that comment, Gary.

    Robin Yount can hardly wait until you are in the HOF with him.

  24. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    “He said he couldn’t pitch”.

    B.Cashman

  25. to me this is a no brainer, he should def be a HOFer

  26. BustyPoser 4 years ago

    Oh no. 😐

  27. Sometimes it hurts facing reality. The one we all enjoy everytime we turn a game on. But really, if Barry Bonds he was a white quarterback he’d still be employed in the NFL, so I do not believe Shef was a racist.

  28. Numbers mean absolutely nothing when you are an admitted juicer. If you are going to argue for Sheff, why not Canseco? They both put up similar numbers…..around 40 less HR’s for Jose and about 20 less WAR in around 700 less games and 2000 less PA’s.

    See how absurd the Sheff for the HOF talk is?

  29. Without reading thru alla th’ comments – since this has been hashed out a kajillion times – here and on other countless boards:

    Sheffield is a d-bag, and whatever respect I ~might~ have had for him went out the window when he ADMITTED HE DOGGED IT to get out of Milwaukee. FORGET about his career stats, and I don’t care if he used the cream or the juice or not… He’s a hosebag and a CHEAT.

    • gwhempel 4 years ago

      Agreed. Hall of Famers don’t tank plays to get traded. I don’t know what’s worse, that he dogged it in Milwaukee, or that he admitted to doing it. The only way he should be able to get in is if they open a “Idiots, Jerks, and Disgraces” Wing. Albert Belle and John Rocker can be in the first class with him.

      • jphenix2002 4 years ago

        Actually dogging it is worse, and that is what should prevent him from getting in the HOF. While the admission won’t get any respect back for him, it only had repercussions for Sheffield. The dogging it cost 24 other people on the roster, and costing his backup playing time. That’s not to mention the countless number of fans pouring money into the team.

  30. Gary, You havn’t played Major League Baseball since 2009 so two years out of the game at your age, your retired. Not to mention you probably did steroids, so you should bow out gracefully out of the media’s eye so the fans don’t have a circus of boring old PED news. That can be played over and over just take story and cross out the name of the guy from the PED story we most recently dealt with insert sheffield.

  31. George Branson 4 years ago

    You guys don’t get it. You need 75% of the votes to get in, and at last count 35-40% of the voters have stated that they would never vote for a guy tied to steroids. So no chance.

  32. They call me Murphy 4 years ago

    Alright, which one of you guys is selling crack to Paul?

  33. I realize now I shouldn’t have read any of these comments. I as a baseball fan in general have heard enough about steriods. First of all nothing was illegal until 2001 and second of all why is it anytime anyone hits over 15 hr’s in a season they are automatically on roids? You ‘baseball fans’ in my opinion need to chill out and have some respect for some of these players. Contrary to popular belief these days it is possible to work hard to get to the Majors and hit homers.

  34. concernedcitizen20099 4 years ago

    This is a guy who worked out with Barry B
    and his BALCO cronies.

    And, he was a “clubhouse cancer’ who wore out his welcome
    in over a half dozen major cities.

    I can think of many, clean, honest players who deserve to
    be in the HOF way before this clown.

    For example: Fred McGriff
    when asked if he is a HOFer after 490+ HRs
    McGriff replied matter of factly:
    “My numbers are real, I didn’t cheat like so many others”.

  35. 02waster 4 years ago

    Rickey Henderson was more arrogant than Sheffield lol

  36. sherrilltradedooverexperience 4 years ago

    i think that one’s a close call. sheffield whined more about money and extensions and said more bad stuff to the press about front offices he was playing for. Rickey was more into talking about himself in the third person.

    Henderson is at least a little endearing because he’s unintentionally hilarious at times. Sheffield never.

  37. This is tremendously rude to say, but then, don’t *most of us here* argue that “a lot of them don’t belong in the Hall of Fame” on a fairly regular basis?

  38. Alexander_Brovechkin 4 years ago

    Hey, at least he’s humble.

  39. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    “Only Milton Bradley provided Sheffield with any competition for the title of Most Psychotic Player.”

    I have two words for you: Jurassic Carl.

  40. blurnandez 4 years ago

    Sure, a lot of people here do that…as a fan on a website. Not as a player during a retirement press release.

  41. LifeLongYankeeFan 4 years ago

    His name is A-ROD thank you very much.

  42. ellisburks 4 years ago

    His name is actually Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez thank you very much.

  43. Actually, Centaurs don’t have traditional names like Alex, they’re typically greek names.

  44. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    Does it really matter what someone says? If it does then we can go back and take Cobb, Hornsby and a lot of other guys out as well. We can take Kenesaw Landis out for his “gentlemans agreement” to keep blacks out and we can keep out any player that threw at, purposely spiked or hurled racial insults at any of the black players. We can set up a committee of Mays, Banks, Aaron and Robinson and I’m sure they can give you a whole list of guys that were far worse than Sheff.

    Was Sheff a whiney black guy? Yes. Is calling someome racist because you honestly feel that they are victimizing you make YOU a racist? No. Unless he’s calling someone a racisl slur or demeaning their being because of their race, then no, he’s not a racist, just a jerk.

  45. I thought his name was Robert Paulson.

  46. Worst fielder in baseball history. Oh offense only ok ok he put up numbers during a time when everyone was putting up numbers, no mvps right? He was good, but to me he doesnt stand out as much as others in the era and with his personality and roid use he will never get in.

  47. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    The dude headbutted an umpire and has been quoted, on record, as saying he does not believe in dinosaurs or homosexuals. We know EXACTLY how crazy Carl Everett is and the answer is a simply “very.”

  48. Only in death does one have a name.

    His name…………was Robert Paulson.

  49. You come off as incredibly biased. Why don’t you just admit that you have no ability to make an objective claim about this guy? It’s flamingly obvious you hate the player.

  50. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    “Worst fielder in baseball history. Oh offense only ok ok he put up numbers during a time when everyone was putting up numbers, no mvps right? He was good, but to me he doesnt stand out as much as others in the era and with his personality and roid use he will never get in”.

    Again, not defending he wasn’t a bad defensive player but calling him the worst based on the stats that poster presented is highly flawed seeing as how there’s no way to properly evaluate Sheff vs Reggie vs Killebrew vs Foxx vs Cap Anson defensively.

    But from an offensive standpoint, it’s easy to see how great he was. He wasn’t just a HR hitter.

    Among all 500 hr hitters

    -24th All-time

    -OPS rankings- Ruth, Williams, Bonds, Foxx, Manny, McGwire, Mantle, F. Thomas, Arod, Ott, Mays, Aaron, F.Robinson, Schmidt, SHEFFIELD…..10 others.

    -RBI rankings- Aaron, Ruth, Bonds, Foxx,Murray, Mays, Ott, Williams, Griffey,Palmerio, Arod, Manny, F. Robinson, Thomas, Jackson, SHEFFIELD…..9 others.

    -25th All-time

    -BB (among 500 hr class)-Bonds, Ruth, Williams, Mantle, Ott, Thomas, Thome, Killibrew, Schmidt, SHEFFIELD……15 others.

    -19th all-time in most BB.

    -SB among 500 hr hiiters- 3rd only to Bonds and Arod.

  51. Casor_Greener 4 years ago

    Exactly!!!

  52. ROFL no ability? I dont like bonds but I will defend his hall of fame credentials. Seriously, think make an argument.

  53. David C. Ruckman 4 years ago

    If you’ll note, I never once said or implied Derek Jeter sucked. I said he’s among the most overrated defensive talents of his generation. These two ideas are not one and the same. Anyone with a set of eyes and half a brain can acknowledge Jeter was a terrific offensive contributor. All I’m saying is many (Yankee fans most of all) treat his defensive ability like he’s other-worldly, when it is clear he is and was not.

    But this thread isn’t about Jeter. It’s about Gary Sheffield, who has strong enough numbers to get himself into the Hall of Fame. Unfortunately, Gary’s politics will keep him out of the Hall for at least the first few years of eligibility.

    For all of the steroid talk, I would not be at all surprised if names are on a list somewhere but simply weren’t leaked to the media. Just because ESPN hasn’t taken four days out of its news cycle to report on it in fifty different video packages doesn’t mean he did or didn’t. We don’t know, so we can’t judge definitively.

  54. Used roids, was racist, and arrogant. I feel like I said these things already, hell it wouldnt have mattered if he put up 750 home runs they still wouldnt put him in!

    Hall of famers need to stand out during their era and sheffield was what an 8 time all star in 22 season?

    So lets compare my arguments, hes racist, arrogant, and used roids while not standing out during his era(which is a complaint against ron santos)

    Your argument:DUDE HAS NUMBERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DURING THAT ERA!

    K.

  55. lol he called latinos easy to control!

  56. No. Ability. Yes, that’s what I said. Apparently I’m not alone in thinking this. But go ahead, keep making comments based on your personal feelings, you’ll lose cred real quick on here.

  57. Good argument, nice points to back it up!

  58. They call me Murphy 4 years ago

    What part of this argument do you not understand? Being an arrogant racist doesn’t exclude you from Hall of Fame eligibility. Your argument makes absolutely no sense and has no validity whatsoever. You just hate the player, but he’s one of the greatest ever and he WILL be elected to the Hall. You sound like you’re bitter because you don’t have 1/1000th of the talent Sheffield has. Oh but that’s right, you’ll defend the “credentials” of Barry Bonds – the single BIGGEST cheat in the history of baseball. The same Barry Bonds who is going on trial for, and will be convicted of, perjury for lying about his own STEROID use. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say Bonds, who LIED and who is going to spend time in PRISON for lying about his own STEROID use, belongs in the Hall but Gary Sheffield, who was never proven to have used any kind of steroid, EVER, doesn’t belong in Cooperstown because he’s “arrogant” and “racist”. Do you not realize how arrogant Barry Bonds is? He’s the most arrogant ballplayer of our generation and he’s going to be a convicted felon one day. But he should be in the Hall? Get a life….

  59. Ad hominem fallacy?

    He doesnt stand out, feel like ive said that? Along with using roids/arrogant/racist he will not get in, only 8 AS appearances in 22 seasons nope. Seriously, read my argument lol.

    Bonds was the only player in history with 400 hrs and 400 sbs before 1999. Derp, more credentials then sheffield. Gary admitted to using steroids…..

    You are right though, I do wish I had sheffields talent :) but I wish I had every mlb players talent and dont hate them, so therefore argument is wrong.

  60. Theres that character thing in the hall of fame…..

  61. lol roids werent around back then?

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