Red Sox In On Madson, Bell, Cuddyer, Sizemore

After seven seasons and a World Series title with the Red Sox, Jonathan Papelbon is leaving Boston for the Phillies and $50MM. Here's the latest on the Red Sox, starting with an update on the bullpen… 


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89 Comments on "Red Sox In On Madson, Bell, Cuddyer, Sizemore"


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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Sox should go after Heath Bell, who is proven over multiple years as a closer.   Madson may be a one-hit wonder, and certainly not worth $44M over 4 years.

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

Could sign Bell and Sizemore for the same money as Papelbon.  Bell should be 3 years at 10-11 million a year.  Based on his age (34) you cannot go any higher than that.  Pads are happy they get another first round-pick and the salary relief.

I don’t see K-Rod fitting into another high pressure place like Boston after he imploded in NYC.

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slider32
3 years 7 months ago

Bell is going to stay with the Padres and Sizemore is a gamble I’m not sure the Sox want to take.

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

Why would he stay with the Pads?  If he was going to get a multi-year deal, it would have been done.  If he accepts arbitration, sure he may get an 11 million dollar one year deal, but will be shipped off in June to who knows where. 

He would be far smarter to decline, and choose where he wants to go.  This is his one and only chance (based on his age) for a multi-year deal playing where he chooses. 

No way the Pads spend approximately 20% of their 50 million dollar payroll on a closer.  No point in having a high-end closer if you never have the lead.

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3 years 7 months ago

Bell is from San Diego. he has already said he wanted to stay there. question is, is money going to lure him away from San Diego? and Sizemore is a big risk for any team to take the guy is a big health risk and anything one who signs him for more thne league minimum might as well have a player ready to bring up or put in his contract that if he gets hurt and is out for more then 30 days his contract is voided with no money guarenteed lol.

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

Of course he would like to stay in San Diego, few people don’t want to stay in San Diego.  But he has to think that when (not if) he gets traded it may be to someplace like Toronto or Cleveland, as far as possible from his family. 

Why not decline arb, and choose where you go?

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

Of course he would like to stay in San Diego, few people don’t want to stay in San Diego.  But he has to think that when (not if) he gets traded it may be to someplace like Toronto or Cleveland, as far as possible from his family. 

Why not decline arb, and choose where you go?

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3 years 7 months ago

Ummm doubtful that you could get both for the same or less.

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

In the ballpark for Paps 50 mil (60 with incentives).  Bell signs for three years at 11 million (33 million total).  No way you give Sizemore anything more than one year with an option for 9 million (which was the option amount Cleveland declined).

Based on Sizemores injury history he needs am injury free year to try for one more mega-contract.  Bell is at the end of his career.  I think its reasonable.

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Ohhhplease
3 years 7 months ago

In the ballpark for Paps 50 mil (60 with incentives).  Bell signs for three years at 11 million (33 million total).  No way you give Sizemore anything more than one year with an option for 9 million (which was the option amount Cleveland declined).

Based on Sizemores injury history he needs am injury free year to try for one more mega-contract.  Bell is at the end of his career.  I think its reasonable.

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Agree….Bell and Sizemore would be great for the Sox.   Beltran is as injury prone as Sizemore, is no better, and Sizemore will come cheaper.

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GoAwayNow
3 years 7 months ago

You just said quite a few dumb things sir.

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Harvard grad, I assume?

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Harvard grad, I assume?

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commenter3346
3 years 7 months ago

Bell would get crushed in the AL East.

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Couldn’t do any worse than Bard.

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commenter3346
3 years 7 months ago

Well his strike out rate has been declining for years, he’s helped out by Petco Park (see his road/home splits) & he was lucky on balls in play. He’s also 34, which is 3 years older than Papelbon. Most of his numbers, although a small sample, against the AL East are terrible.

At least Bard can do that at a lot cheaper price and has better velocity.

Seriously, since Papelbon’s gone, just sign Nathan. Giving Bell 3/36 or anything near that is ridiculous.

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notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

declining for years?

8.19
10.21
11.06
7.32

declined last year*. i’m not interested in bell and his 2011 drop was alarming, but let’s not get carried away. he’s got a very good track record, even when you adjust for his home park

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Signing Nathan is a big risk – not sure if he’ll ever get back to being what he was, or close to it.   Bell still throws the ball hard, and declining strikeouts is usually a function of a pitcher getting older and a bit smarter.   Has not impacted his capability to save games.   Madson is an option, but he’s only done it one year.  Rodriguez is the other option but I think he’s more on the decline than Bell.    Would give Bell 2 years and $20M with a mutual option for a 3rd year.

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stroh
3 years 7 months ago

Couldn’t do any worse than Bard.

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johnsilver
3 years 7 months ago

Yep.. Smartest move yet. No way Papelbon is worth 4 years at 12.5m a season. Check up on Bell, even Rodriquez, possibly even broxton to go along with Bard and a healthy Jenks next season.

Take the picks for papelbon, wave adios and move on.

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commenter3346
3 years 7 months ago

He got around 12.5 million in 2011.

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notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

he’s definitely worth 1-year/12.5M

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3 years 7 months ago

I think K-Rod or Madson would be good fits for Boston

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dc21892
3 years 7 months ago

Sure up RF now that Paps is gone and money has been saved.

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Devon Henry
3 years 7 months ago

I could definetely see sizemore goin to the Red Sox and pulling a Beltre by having a Monster year then gettting a fat contract the next year.

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dc21892
3 years 7 months ago

Highly unlikely. Sizemore has been hurt a lot with major injuries. Beltre had one year with injuries. Other than that, he suffered greatly at Saefco and that’s why his numbers weren’t good.