Red Sox To Hire Bobby Valentine

Bobby Valentine will become the next manager of the Red Sox, reports Gordon Edes of ESPN Boston (on Twitter). He is expected in town on Wednesday. Mike Lynch of WCVB-TV in Boston was the first to report that the two sides had reached a verbal agreement (Twitter link).

The job was offered to Valentine while he was in Japan for personal business over the last few days, adds Edes (on Twitter). He immediately accepted. ESPN's Karl Ravech reported earlier tonight that Tigers third base coach Gene Lamont was out of the running for the job.

Valentine, 61, will be the 45th manager in team history. He has previous managed the Rangers (1985-1992) and Mets (1996-2002), as well as the Chiba Lotte Marines (1995, and 2004-2009). He led the Mets to the 2000 World Series and the Marines to the 2005 Japan Series. The Rangers and Mets went a combined 1117-1072 under his watch.


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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

You’re missing their point and conjuring one point from nowhere:

You’re basing your stance here on the fact that some anonymous sources choose to stay anonymous for a reason, which is an entirely reasonable assumption in any circumstance in which it is applicable. However, no one’s questioning any anonymous sources here because there are no anonymous sources to cite. Most of this has been conjecture and assumption by the Boston media who are already notorious for conjecture and assumption.

Go look at the Globe’s Extra Bases blog sometime. The entire blog has been one big mess of contradiction and back and forth for like a month and a half now. They were citing the top candidates as guys like Martinez, who allegedly was never even interviewed in the end and saying Sveum was an unpopular candidate and then Sveum was the top candidate, but then the the Sox dropped the ball on him. Then Valentine was involved and apparently he’d been involved since the beginning (To the point that players have now allegedly been grumbling about it for a while) but no one in the media knew about it. And after weeks of saying what a disaster the Valentine hiring would be, now that it’s announced it’s all THIS WAS TOTALLY THE RIGHT CHOICE BE QUIET EVERYONE.

This situation leaves us with two possibilities: either the Boston sports media is pulling their stories out of their backside and citing opinion as fact (Something they’ve been doing since the forties) or the Red Sox front office is in such monumental disarray (Some disarray is to be expected, but let’s not forget that there honestly hasn’t been much turnover in the front office, the overwhelming majority of the old regime is still in place) that all of these conflicts which make absolutely no logical sense do exist. While the latter is certainly a remote possibility, Occam’s Razor (The simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation) leads us to go with the former.

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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

No, no! Don’t go back on your entirely valid stance:

There are no conflicting reports, there are conflicting stories. Reports indicate there’s a source, stories are just that: stories. There has been very little word, official or otherwise, reported as coming from Yawkey Way outside of who interviewed and when.

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MaineSox
3 years 7 months ago

Eh, my point all along has pretty much been that anyone who is condemning the Sox (specifically Lucchino and/or Ben) based on these stories is doing it without anything to stand on.  There’s nothing legitimate that has been reported to suggest that any of this is remotely true.

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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

For the last time, we have a catcher!

Jarrod Saltalamacchia’s not Brian McCann, but I don’t think the guy could be more criminally underrated at this point.

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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Entirely up for debate. I’ve been on record multiple times in regards to how awful of a manager Girardi is in my personal opinion. The guy is about the biggest whiner in the MLB and he either threw the final game of the season or managed it away due to incompetence (I’d believe either one, he’s got a history of playing the numbers poorly), neither of which is a particularly attractive quality in a manager.

Valentine’s a one man circus sideshow, but most people who’ve worked with him claim he’s a good in-game manager.

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jjs91
3 years 7 months ago

Of course its up for debate it’s not like there’s any real way to prove how good a manager is there are no stats or anything of the sort.  I have no problem with any of his in game moves he manages the bp way better than torre ever could and really think thats the most important part of being a manager, something if you ask around that valentine really screwed up while playing the yankees in 2000.  ANd you probably cant say he is the biggest whinner when you have a guy like beckett.

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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

“he manages the bp way better than torre ever could”

This is a matter that can be directly cited to the fact that Girardi only had access to Scott Proctor for one month of his managerial career. He did his best Torre impression by overusing him in the like three weeks he had him.

“ANd you probably cant say he is the biggest whinner when you have a guy like beckett.”

Beckett’s an enormous suchandsuchhead, but Girardi’s got him trumped in the whining department. He can’t even get his whining straight. He whines whenever his players get hit and then sends guys like Chamberlain out there to headhunt, whines that people accuse him of sign stealing then accuses people of sign stealing. I can’t even say it’s bias as a Sox fan as I always loved Torre, but Girardi just drives me nuts.

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0bsessions
3 years 7 months ago

Ron Gardenhire’s widely considered one of the best managers in baseball and he doesn’t have a ring. Meanwhile, a lot of people feel Ozzie Guillen and Bruce Bochhy are incompetent, but both have rings.

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jjs91
3 years 7 months ago

Perhaps gardenhire shouldnt be regarded as the best manager in the GM? Not for the ws thing but in general.