Carlos Beltran Rumors: Thursday

Carlos Beltran may choose his next team by the weekend and he has many suitors to consider. The Cardinals, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Rays and Indians are all "seriously in the mix" for Beltran, according to Scott Miller of CBSSports.com. Here’s the latest on Beltran, who’s open to DHing part-time…

  • Though the Indians are in the mix for Beltran, they're more likely to obtain a first baseman, tweets Heyman.
  • The Cardinals view Beltran as the best, most cost-efficient option, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The Cardinals are believed to have offered a two-year deal worth at least $8MM per season at one point, Heyman writes.
  • Beltran is down to the Cardinals, Indians and Blue Jays, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Miller names the same three teams and says the Beltran talks appear to be coming to a head. (Twitter link).
  • The Red Sox are out on Beltran, tweets Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.
  • The Cardinals intensified their talks with Beltran last night and into this morning, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes. One of Goold's sources says the Cardinals are the "leading candidate" to sign Beltran.
  • MLB.com's Jordan Bastian hears nothing has changed regarding the Indians' projected 2012 payroll (Twitter links). This means adding someone like Beltran would likely require the club to shed payroll elsewhere, but Cleveland’s interest in Beltran is legitimate.
  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports explains how Beltran would fit on the Indians' roster. Cleveland jumped into the bidding for the switch-hitting free agent yesterday.
  • Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reminds us that Beltran declined to be traded to the Indians in July, when he said he’d only join the Phillies or Giants (Twitter link).


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116 Comments on "Carlos Beltran Rumors: Thursday"


joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

I didn’t want to raise my voice at you but CURSE WORDS you have enough money, Beltran! In Tampa, you can rest your knees, be closer to PR and there isn’t going to be any media pressure around you. CHOOSE TAMPA, CARLOS!

Douglas Hicks
3 years 7 months ago

I know it’s a long shot…but, If we could get a good deal on Beltran, I’d be thrilled to see him come to Tampa.

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

I think Tampa could win the AL with Beltran.

1. Jennings LF
2. Upton CF
3. Longoria 3B
4. Beltran DH
5. Zobrist 2B
6. Joyce RF
7. Kotchman 1B
8. Molina C
9. Rodriguez SS

SP: Shields, Price, Hellickson, Moore, Niemann/Davis/Cobb
Closer: Trade for Bailey
8th: Farnsworth
7th: Peralta
Other relievers: Gomes, Ramos, Howell, McGee, etc.

rikersbeard
3 years 7 months ago

Still doesn’t look like an AL winning line up to me. They’ll be competitive, but I think they’d be beating the odds if they win.

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

Won the wild card last year with a terrible offense and a depleted bullpen. How can we not win the East with that?

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

is there reason to expect better from the bullpen this year? that’s the biggest hole imo

Fernando O'Connor
3 years 7 months ago

Our brand new bullpen had one of the better era’s in the al….

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

it was 6th in the AL and that was with every single significant contributor outperforming his FIP by at least half a run

josh
3 years 7 months ago

They will continue to out pitch their FIP because the Rays have the best Defense in the AL

rikersbeard
3 years 7 months ago

Because no team should (could?) win the AL with  Molina as a starting C. 

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

I love that team. Wonder what Bailey would take. First things first, we need to find money somewhere for Beltran.

Fernando O'Connor
3 years 7 months ago

If we got Beltran…Couldn’t we convert Joyce or Fuld into a first baseman???? The Rays prefer a lefty at first too. both of those guys have potential to be great offensive pieces in the lineup if they could get more at bats. As we all know, we have a really crowded outfield as it is. Especially with all the guys We got from the Garza trade.

3 years 7 months ago

You wish.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

How are the Rays going to pay for Beltran? He is going to at least get 10-12 Million a year. Thats half your playroll!

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

the rays payroll was $72M in 2010. they can spend a little, they just prefer not to

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Yep…2014 & 2015 payroll is their issue.  That precludes anything more than 2 years to a vet free agent.

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

Exaggerate much? Are you a Sox fan?

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

yup. the red sox AKA the birds

Fernando O'Connor
3 years 7 months ago

I agree with you 100% except…Is Bailey really that big of an improvement over Farnsworth? With the crowded rotation now, wouldn’t it be better to go ahead and just give Davis or Nieman the 9th inning gig?

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

I honestly think it’s the best fit. If he takes around $8-9 million per year

3 years 7 months ago

8 or 9 million!!! you wish.  more like 12 or 13

Fernando O'Connor
3 years 7 months ago

No state or city tax in Tampa(unlike boston,mass which have both)….12 mil in boston comes down to like 9 mil after taxes…maybe less

So if we offer around 9, I think he’ll bite. Especially since its close to his home in PR which is only like a 1.5 hour flight non stop.

We did pay Pat Burrel a two year 16 million dollar deal. I think it’ll be something like that.

FamousGrouse
3 years 7 months ago

I would love to see that happen.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Sounds like you’re convincing him to come down to Tampa to retire…

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

Carlos Pena might be in your future.  Not so bad.

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

If we fix the holes with Pena and Damon, good enough.

Price – Shields – Hellickson – Moore – Davis/Neimann/Cobb

Hoping it’s a 1 year deal for Pena and we trade for Rizzo. Wow, I can’t wait for that big 4 to be in action.

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

I am thinking 1B & DH will be filled by Carlos Pena and Juan Miranda (instead of Damon).  Plus, Rays will pursue Rizzo.  I also expect BJ Upton to be traded by spring training.

Tribefan15
3 years 7 months ago

The Indians NEED a bat like Beltran!
C’mon lets get it done!!!!

3 years 7 months ago

Anywhere but the home the of the WLB’s

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

Sounds like:
Cardinals have a 3 year offer
Jays have a 3 year offer
Indians may have 3 year offer but he vetoed a trade there last year
Rays have an offer but at a cheap cheap price but it is close to PR and he wants them to hike up the offer
Bosox no idea

Id say Cardinals or Rays have the best shot, that is if the Rays decide to make a ledgit offer 

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

Have you heard that or are those guesses? I agree with Boston, they seem set on just pitching.

The_BiRDS
3 years 7 months ago

They are guesses

Hermie13
3 years 7 months ago

Most reports said he never vetoed a trade to cleveland….simply that his agent said he wouldnt accept. The mets said they never presented an offer to beltran to go to cleveland

Hermie13
3 years 7 months ago

Do think cleveland is very unlikely though….

craigkimbrelfan
3 years 7 months ago

I wish we had some money…*sigh*

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

I hear ya.

3 years 7 months ago

St. Louis Post-Dispatch, in an update a few moments ago, are now saying Cards are “leading candidate” with talks progressing this morning, and a possible deal “well before the weekend.”

theguy17
3 years 7 months ago

Damn you Sabean!!!

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

I still have no idea why the Jays want Beltran. He used to be my favourite player, during the killer bees, but that was a while ago. The Jays are trying to build their players around youth. Beltran will be taking time away from Snider and Thames. 

This just doesn’t make sense, and is probably 100% Jon Heyman garbage aka Scott Boras garbage.

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

.389 wOBA (2011) switch hitter is not a bad idea for protecting Jose Bautista.  He is definitely a middle order hitter, a weakness for Jays last year.

Bautista and Lawrie had wOBAs over .400 last year.  EE was in .340s.  Everyone else below .340.  MLB avg is .333.

Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

I’m not saying he won’t be good, but we don’t need his age.

I would rather trade for protection, we have the depth in pitching prospects to get a hitter. Or sign Fielder, that would be the best option.

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

I am seeing the Jays being one or two years away from that position.  But, once there, your thinking makes perfect sense. AA probably shares your thoughts on what to do.  Just not on where they are presently.

Red_Line_9
3 years 7 months ago

I’m not sure the Jays front office is sold on Snider or Thames either. 

abbearden
3 years 7 months ago

For Blue Jays and Rays fans out there. Would knowing that Beltran has had surgery on his knee and other knee related issues worry you about him playing a full season especially when your field surface is turf? I know the new turf is much better than the old AstroTurf but for a guy with knee problems he might end up playing the DH role more often than expected. Thoughts?

johnsmith4
3 years 7 months ago

A solid hitting DH who can spot start in OF is good.

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

I think in both cases, he would DH, he would get the random starts (probably always on the road) to give the other guys a day off but he’s a DH with Toronto and Tampa.

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

out on beltran, in on gio gonzalez

off the tobin bridge

Madraider
3 years 7 months ago

Somebody in stats has gotta say, do we really want to give up top prospects for Dice K. 2.0?  Please please please, just keep the lines of communication open with either Oswalt or Edwin Jackson.

MaineSox
3 years 7 months ago

But it’s Cafardo, so it’s probably more like the opposite of that is true.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 7 months ago

I’m not really sure why the Red Sox were in on Beltran. Offense wasn’t the problem last year. If they brought in a solid complementary right handed bat like a Reed Johnson to platoon with one of their younger guys, they wouldn’t be losing much production at the bottom of the order.

Their main problem is closer/#3 starter.

MaineSox
3 years 7 months ago

They don’t need offense, but they have an opening in RF and he would be a better option than Reddick.

Hermie13
3 years 7 months ago

RF is a bit of a question mark though. Plus could use one (or both) of klish/reddick to get a #3 starter…..

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 7 months ago

The price on pitching is so steep prospect wise though. There’s plenty of guys like Edwin Jackson, Roy Oswalt, Hiroki Kuroda, that would only cost cash.

The Red Sox are very $$$ conservative this year, I’ve just got to think there’s a better way to spend money than on a bat they really don’t need.

3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think there’s anything standing in the Cards way now. I bet what’s holding them up is the years. I can see 2 years with a club option. Hopefully we don’t include a NTC. Because after this year I’d like to deal him to give Craig starting RF. Assuming, of course, that Craig has a productive year.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 7 months ago

After this year, first base is also open.  Craig can play there.

3 years 7 months ago

I’m anticipating Adams being up.

Randolph_Knackstedt
3 years 7 months ago

If it’s out of those 3 teams he’ll go to the Cardinals. Beltran has been vocal that he wants to win a championship. I wish the Giants could afford him, but that’s not going to happen.

cardsfan1988
3 years 7 months ago

If he doesn’t go to the Cardinals it will be about the money and not about winning, because he won’t do that on the Indians or Blue Jays. I’d be extremely shocked if the Cards don’t sign him if all reports are true

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

Sigh, not a shock but still, this is getting incredibly frustrating. Are we gonna find a way to make this offense even worse?!

3 years 7 months ago

I think jred is thinking in the right direction.  This is likely Berkman’s last year with STL.  If Beltran is picked up and Craig continues to produce, well it gets interesting.  Matt Adams is promising and wouldn’t be ready till 2013.  Oscar Taveras might be ready by 13′.  If that’s the case Craig, Adams or even convert Beltran to 1B if Taveras is ready.  Taveras is Harper caliber offense.

Red_Line_9
3 years 7 months ago

It’s always nice to just see the Cards roll along…never seem to have a deep farm system…yet they produce valuable talent for the big league roster.

Cardinals06
3 years 7 months ago

mmmm …. Cardinals do have a deep farm. if you looked at the 011 team, lots of their guys who they drafted helped them get there. Pujols, Molina, Chambers, Descalso, Boggs, Sanchez, Cruz, Motte, Schumaker, Garcia, Lynn, Craig, Jay, McClellan, Greene, and Dickson. All came up through the Cardinals minors as drafted by them in the past. And in the future … they have Miller, Carlos Martinez, Matt Adams, Oscar Taveras, and said to be future ss Ryan Jackson (if he keeps improving). Cards drafted him, knowing he had defense but, won’t sure about his offense. So far, Jackson has hit in the minors.

Red_Line_9
3 years 7 months ago

That’s what I was getting at.  They get the “wrap” of having a thin farm, though.  What some don’t realize is that it isn’t the job of player development to set out to win minor league championships.  While having successful minor league teams can mean there is real talent on the roster, it doesn’t necessarily indicate that any of the players are MLB caliber.

I’ll take 5 top level prospects over a AAA championship any season.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 7 months ago

I actually think they only signed Berkman as Pujols insurance this year.  If Pujols resigned, Berkman plays the year in right and Adams would have been traded.  Without Pujols, Berkman plays the year at first, and the Cardinals judge at the end of the year whether to bring up Adamsor convert Craig.

Berkman’s 2011 production was worth a two year deal, and had he pushed, he could have gotten it.  Cards were only looking for one.

3 years 7 months ago

I think jred is thinking in the right direction.  This is likely Berkman’s last year with STL.  If Beltran is picked up and Craig continues to produce, well it gets interesting.  Matt Adams is promising and wouldn’t be ready till 2013.  Oscar Taveras might be ready by 13′.  If that’s the case Craig, Adams or even convert Beltran to 1B if Taveras is ready.  Taveras is Harper caliber offense.

theguy17
3 years 7 months ago

2 years for 8M per?  And the Giants can’t afford that?  Way to spend 9.5 mil on Affeldt and Lopez instead Sabean.  Job well done. 

theguy17
3 years 7 months ago

2 years for 8M per?  And the Giants can’t afford that?  Way to spend 9.5 mil on Affeldt and Lopez instead Sabean.  Job well done. 

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

If Beltran signs for 2 years at 8 mil per, it’s going to be the first time in a while I will be very upset with Friedman and think he missed a great opportunity. He’s just gonna resign Damon and Kotchman, watch. I want Pena now but he would just be the next let down.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 7 months ago

Gotta agree there.  When I saw 2 years and only 8 per year, my first thought was “how the **** are the Rays out?”

theguy17
3 years 7 months ago

If he signs for that I hope Brian Sabean gets fired immediately. 

joeybw
3 years 7 months ago

If Beltran signs for 2 years at 8 mil per, it’s going to be the first time in a while I will be very upset with Friedman and think he missed a great opportunity. He’s just gonna resign Damon and Kotchman, watch. I want Pena now but he would just be the next let down.