Orioles, Cubs Discussed Alfonso Soriano

The Orioles and Cubs have discussed a trade involving Alfonso Soriano, according to Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported yesterday that a couple of teams have inquired about Soriano and at this point there's no indication that Baltimore GM Dan Duquette is close to adding Soriano to the left field/designated hitter mix.

Soriano posted a .244/.289/.469 line with 26 home runs last season and is under contract through 2014. There’s $54MM remaining on the 35-year-old left fielder's contract and his no-trade clause allows him to block trades. The Cubs would presumably have to absorb upwards of $40MM to facilitate a deal. Earlier in the week, they sent Carlos Zambrano to the Marlins, absorbing $15.5MM of his $18MM salary in the process.


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69 Comments on "Orioles, Cubs Discussed Alfonso Soriano"


MB923
3 years 6 months ago

Whoa

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

If you can save almost $5M per year, you have to jump on that.

danistheguy
3 years 6 months ago

Gross.

captainjeter
3 years 6 months ago

Soriano is so overpaid that it is not funny. I am so glad that Cashman traded  him to Texas when  he did.
I am so happy that we did not overpay this over rated player.

redsx968
3 years 6 months ago

I knew that contract was bad, but jesus. That’s absurd.

3 years 6 months ago

coming off the 40/40 year he had in washington it really wasn’t a bad contract at all.. but, now…. good lord its awful

stewie75
3 years 6 months ago

no it was bad back then too. my original thought when it was announced was “EIGHT YEARS???!!”

pennypincher
3 years 6 months ago

Actually 18 million a year for a guy who strikes out a lot, can’t really play defense and rarely walks is rarely, if ever, a good idea.

3 years 6 months ago

Please, please, please trade him!  I don’t care if you have to eat all but 1MM.  You’re saving money and getting that bum off the field.  He runs about an 8 second 40 these days.

3 years 6 months ago

Top Ten Things Lefty would take from Cubs instead of Soriano
1.)    I would have taken Zambrano
2.)    Lake Effect Snow
3.)    Wind
4.)    Strands of Ivy for the OPACY Outfield Wall
5.)    Kerry Wood
6.)    Blake DeWitt
7.)    Lifetime Supply of Chicago Bagel Dogs
8.)    8 Track Cassette of Harry Caray singing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame
9.)    Mike Ditka at least he would instill some toughness and discipline within the Oriole Organization. I know he was never officially a Cubbie, but he sang at Wrigley and is everything Chicago. So I will take him!
10.)  Wind and Snow Together

Mikey Roederer
3 years 6 months ago

Number 8 might be a collectors item and actually be worth more than Soriano….

0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

RE: 9

Added benefit, install Ditka as manager. Firing Buck Showalter is a proven recipe for success. No other manager in baseball history can make the claim that every manager immediately following him (Torre, Brenly, Washington) took his team to the WS. Firing Showalter for Ditka all but guarantees a Ditka Dynasty.

3 years 6 months ago

Zambrano – Agreed.
Snow – God no!
Ivy – It was only down for a year (maybe 2) to get rid of a disease it had.
Bagel Dogs – Yes Please.Wind & Snow – Why?   Just why.

plain_g
3 years 6 months ago

oriLOLes

cacavolante
3 years 6 months ago

never seen that one before…

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Kindergarten humor meets Mlbtraderumors

Zuidvogels
3 years 6 months ago

“at this point there’s no indication that Baltimore GM Dan Duquette is close to adding Soriano to the left field/designated hitter mix.”

Why is there a story then?

Triple Hawpes Brewed
3 years 6 months ago

I say this sometimes and get flamed. NO news is news here apparently. And why no word on the “Starlin Castro wanted for questioning in sexual assault?”

3 years 6 months ago

Don’t you mean, “disgust”? 

djones83
3 years 6 months ago

The Orioles should get a ton of money and some sucky sucky with that.

0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

They’d have to get Oakland involved in the trade talks then, Cherington already gave Beane Head.

(I am going to take this joke and run it into the ground at record speed)

Meh Sheep
3 years 6 months ago

Another low average, low OBP guy to add to the mix.  Why would this be an improvement over resigning Luke Scott?

3 years 6 months ago

This would be a good move for the Orioles. They would basically get a player for free, and have no hopes of contending. The worst that happens is he sucks, and they cut him. He’s an intense flyball hitter who still does have some power, and Camden is a HR park according to park factors. He’s a free version of Luke Scott.

randomkeys
3 years 6 months ago

Not quite. It says the Cubs would absorb $40MM of the $54MM remaining on Soriano’s salary. That means the Orioles would be on the hook for $14MM/3yrs. That’s not huge, but surely there are lower-risk/higher-reward options out there.

3 years 6 months ago

Luke Scott is a free-er version of Luke Scott

Thomas Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

10-14 million over the next two years is free? that is half of what Beltran is getting.

stewie75
3 years 6 months ago

3 years*

sourbob
3 years 6 months ago

Considering how low the payroll is going to be this year, this is the season to eat those bad deals. They can write off some/most of that $40MM against this year’s books and be out from underneath that deal for next year.

Casor_Greener
3 years 6 months ago

That’s some faulty accounting there fella…

sourbob
3 years 6 months ago

I”m not an accountant, but is it? Is there no way they can just cut a $40MM check this year and then be done instead of multiple checks for the next few years? It’s true, I can’t remember having seen it done that way, but then, most teams don’t have the ridiculous amount of slack the Cubs will have in 2012, given how much their payroll is dropping.

If nothing else, maybe they could structure it so that they send $17.5MM this year and next and just $5MM in 2014. That way, they’d be largely out from under it sooner, and would have more cash by the time they’d be looking to spend more seriously.

Casor_Greener
3 years 6 months ago

They basically have to write it off however it’s paid.  If they pay $14M a year then that’s what they show on the books.  Given that it’s a written contract it would be hard to write of the entire loss in one year.  Many companies write off major losses in one year and then give false statements about being profitable while they are still losing money (due to continuing to on things they had “written off”).

There are a few ways around it but generally it’s not advised.

Also, with time value of money, it’s usually better to spread out payments rather than pay a lump sum as money becomes less valuable in the long run. $40M now is worth more than $13.3M over 3 years.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

I’ve been suggesting this all along – for the Braves to look into this. If CHC is willing to eat a similar chunk of Soriano’s salary as they did with Zambrano, Braves should seriously consider it. Soriano/Prado could be in LF, while Soriano provides Heyward some relief in RF on occasion and LF when Prado needs to relieve Jones at 3B. Heck, Soriano could even relieve Uggla on occasion, though I’m not suggesting it.

Soriano has a .317 career AVG at Turner Field, .279/.347/.520 vs. LHP for his career, and can be counted on for at least 20 HRs (has hit 20+ since 2001).

BlueCatuli
3 years 6 months ago

Soriano can’t play second any more. You don’t want that to be an option.

3 years 6 months ago

As bad as Soriano was in 2nd I think he is far worse playing in the outfield.  He looks like he has zero clue where the ball is when its floating to left field.

brian310
3 years 6 months ago

Maybe he is talking about sticking Prado at second while still having a decent bat in left

randomkeys
3 years 6 months ago

“Heck, Soriano could even relieve Uggla on occasion, though I’m not suggesting it.”

…but, but… you just suggested it.

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Haha…give me a mulligan on that. I don’t know why I said that if only thinking that Uggla’s range isn’t much better. But, I was trying to get at 2B also being covered by Prado, if Soriano relieves him in LF. Sorry for the early morning confusion.

Thomas Wilson
3 years 6 months ago

Why wouldn’t you have Prado play 2B instead?

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

I failed to make a point about how valuable Soriano could be and wasn’t considering Prado. But yes, Prado, if any, should relieve Uggla at 2B.

Brv Rocks
3 years 6 months ago

Soriano is a terrible defensive LF, much less RF or 2B.  He would be a terrible option for the Braves. 

rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Without looking at the defensive stats, I was merely suggesting Soriano as a possibly alternative. This would allow Prado to be used in a utility role, while providing some insurance for Chipper, Uggla and even Heyward if they/when they go through a slump/injury. It looks as though Soriano, based on the outside chance CHC picks up a chunk of his final 3 years, could be had for less than Josh Willingham. Considering ATL wasn’t really keen on Willingham, who is also not good defensively, has more power, and plays LF, I can’t really see them taking that long of a look at Soriano anyway. 

If Soriano had 1-2 years remaining, I’d be all about that, but so would everyone else despite his defensive lapses. 

BrocNessMonster
3 years 6 months ago

Orioles and Dodgers chasing guys who make outs 70%+ of the time.

The Mythical One
3 years 6 months ago

Almost every hitter in baseball makes outs 70% of the time, and those guys hit .300.

Os84
3 years 6 months ago

Please stay far away from Soriano, O’s! 

I have a feeling these “talks” were initiated by the Cubs, not the O’s.

3 years 6 months ago

If it’s one thing that I know about the Orioles, they always take the Cubs’ garbage players.  Sammy Sosa, Corey Patterson, Felix Pie, Derrek Lee, and Kevin Gregg, to name a few.

Hope this trend continues…

Wrek305
3 years 6 months ago

66% of those players were trade involved. Gregg was never good to start his career. Pie he’s not a ML player he’s just on a horrible team.

Ry.the_Stunner
3 years 6 months ago

Derrek Lee didn’t come to the Orioles from the Cubs, and I hardly would’ve classified him a “garbage player”.  Sure, he’s on the decline now, but only a year previously he had hit .306/.393/.579 with 35 HR and 111 RBI.

Paul Shailor
3 years 6 months ago

The Orioles might trade Adam Jones.
The Orioles might get Soriano.

“According to sources the Orioles and Cubs are nearing a deal involving Adam Jones and Alfonso Soriano” -Buster Olney.

Chris Hess
3 years 6 months ago

No clue where you got this from. But if this did happen, DD would be picked up and thrown out of Baltimore by the fan base.

The Orioles refused Prado, Jurjjens, and a pitching prospect for Jones. Let alone a straight Jones-Soriano deal? No way in a million years.

The_Porcupine
3 years 6 months ago

Sammy Sosa all over again!!!  Haven’t we learned our lessons on the Cubs retreads yet?

WGFinley
3 years 6 months ago

That’s not a moving truck backed up to Wrigley, it’s a SEMI.