A.J. Burnett Rumors: Sunday

Yesterday we learned that four teams are in on A.J. Burnett, but the Yankees feel that the Pirates are the best match.  One of those four clubs is on Burnett's no-trade list, which reportedly includes ten West Coast clubs.  Here's the latest on Burnett and the Yanks..

  • New York is insistent on getting the "right players" in a Burnett trade, tweets Marc Carig of the New Jersey Star-Ledger. Carig's source notes that this is "not a give away" of Burnett, and says that the two sides intend to keep working toward a deal (Twitter links).
  • The Yankees likely will pay $19-23MM of $33MM remaining on Burnett’s contract and receive multiple minor leaguers in return, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions, writes Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  Those prospects would not be players on the Pirates’ 40-man roster, the source said.
  • Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter) guesses that two of the other teams in on Burnett are the Royals and Indians.  The Indians could defray some money by dealing Travis Hafner, who is owed roughly $15MM between 2012 and his '13 buyout. 
  • The Pirates are more concerned about prospects than money, so they're more likely to compromise on the amount of money they'll pay Burnett, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets.
  • It's doubtful that a deal will be completed today, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
  • The Yankees don't love the two minor leaguers that the Pirates offered for Burnett, tweets Heyman.  Heyman still thinks that a deal gets done with the Pirates paying $13-15MM of the $33MM owed to Burnett.
  • The Yankees know they can make a Burnett deal with the Pirates but they first want to make sure that nothing else is available before pulling the trigger, tweets Sherman.  All signs point to the Yankees moving Burnett in the coming days and trying to sign Eric Chavez and a left-handed DH with the money saved (Twitter link).
  • The Bucs and Yankees have a framework for a possible  deal in place, according to Buster Olney of ESPN.com (via Twitter).  The deal is not done but the two teams have a lot of common ground and Pittsburgh is still the frontrunner, Olney tweets.


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161 Comments on "A.J. Burnett Rumors: Sunday"


3 years 6 months ago

So long AJ, appreciate 2009!  I wonder if there is anything more included in this framework or if it’s simply AJ -> Pirates and they take on 35-50% of contract.

3 years 6 months ago

I think he’s making a bit too much for an Alex Rios-type unloading. Pirates must be taking some. Hopefully he won’t hurt them nearly as much, but I cannot wait to see him pitch in Cincinnati. Yikes.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

I know AJ has $33 mil reasons as to why he would get over any dispatch out of NY but I sort of feel for the guy. He genuinely seems like he enjoyed the clubhouse and teammates in NY and I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about him outside of his performance. Still, probably sucks to know that your employer desperately wants to get rid of you to the point that they are willing to pay someone else to take you off of their hands. If he ends up being traded then I’ll still wish him the best.

When the deal was signed the biggest risk was his ability to stay healthy. Almost no one could imagine the deal would end bad based off of performance. Thanks for 2009 buddy.

metsman
3 years 6 months ago

nice post.  I still remember when Farnsworth got his walking papers.  Here’s a guy who rearranged people’s faces on the diamond on national TV, now balling his eyes out.It puts into perspective how close these guys get sometimes. I felt really bad for him.

Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

well said sir

captainjeter
3 years 6 months ago

this would be the best thing for  both the Yankees and Burnett. This has been a  bad marriage  from the get- go. Time  for a divorce.

Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

If the Pirates are only picking up $8-12 MM, this’ll be a solid addition for them. Plus they wouldn’t have to start Kevin Correia anymore.

3 years 6 months ago

determining whether or not he is a solid addition has nothing to do with how much money either team becomes responsible for.  He has been virtually the worst starting pitcher in baseball for each of the last 2 years.  He’ll be in that category again this year regardless of who pays him and who doesn’t.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 6 months ago

Worst starting pitcher? John Lackey begs to differ. 

EarlyMorningBoxscore
3 years 6 months ago

Worst starting pitcher? John Lackey begs to differ. 

Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

No. Lackey’s 2010: 4.1 WAR. Lackey’s 2011: 1.5 WAR. Burnett was 1.4 and 1.5, respectively.

3 years 6 months ago

More like disrespectively AMIRIGHT?!

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

Fangraphs WAR for pitching is a joke. First of all it lists CC higher than Verlander in 2011, and second of all, there’s no way a pitcher with a 6.41 ERA is above a replacement level pitcher, let alone an entire win and a half

-1.2 WAR sounds about right (on B-Ref)

Burnett had -0.5 WAR in 2010 and 1.1 WAR in 2011
Lackey had a 1.8 WAR in 2010 and as I posted, -1.2 WAR in 2011. 

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 6 months ago

Personally, I think they should make a WAR system based off SIERA. Until then, simply using the middle ground between rWAR and fWAR makes the most sense.

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

That’s a fair way to do it.

3 years 6 months ago

Injurhan Santana begs to differ with you Lackey

johnsilver
3 years 6 months ago

Lackey was pitching all of last season needing surgery also. I (for one) am curious to see how well he does at Boston.. Fully healthy, as not even the nanny-always ragging and whiny press, such as Shaghnesy have ever given a athlete a break and that includes Yaz, Williams, Rice.. It’s like dig up dirt.. or flat out invent it if it’s not there..

If they were as diligent at digging up dirt in other areas, other than sports, most of those news rags may be better regarded.

Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

No he hasn’t. He had a WAR of 1.4 in 2010 and 1.5 in 2011. That’s better among qualified starters than Saunders, Leake, Richard, Lannan, Niemann, Wolf, Davis, Blackburn, and Arroyo. Plus, it’s better than Kevin Correia’s 0.0 WAR in each of the last two seasons.

Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

No he hasn’t. He had a WAR of 1.4 in 2010 and 1.5 in 2011. That’s better among qualified starters than Saunders, Leake, Richard, Lannan, Niemann, Wolf, Davis, Blackburn, and Arroyo. Plus, it’s better than Kevin Correia’s 0.0 WAR in each of the last two seasons.

3 years 6 months ago

ACTUALLY, aj has been pretty good for the Yanks

3 years 6 months ago

I wouldnt say pretty good, ok i mean he did start the collapse in boston after he beat the redsox in the first week of september and he only pitched a 5 and 2/3 innings in game 4 of the ALDS while only giveing up 1 run on 4 hits.

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

The Boston collapse started well long before that.

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

The Boston collapse started well long before that.

adropofvenom
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, but Olney also tweeted that they haven’t agreed on either PLAYERS or MONEY. 

Which basically means, they have nothing. 

3 years 6 months ago

Pitt you better be getting paid to take this mess off their hands!

3 years 6 months ago

A mystery west coast team? Woohoo. Gotta be the M’s. Figgins for Burnett. Figgins can be a utility guy leading off giving the Yankee geriatric core to have many days off at DH.

Burnett’s K/9 were still reasonable last year. He would fit well in Safeco.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

I’m sure the M’s are probably on his no-trade list since it was said the 10 teams were all on the west coast.

MetsEventually
3 years 6 months ago

Where are the trolls asking for Cole, Taillon and Bell? 

gocubs418
3 years 6 months ago

I like it for Pitt if they get him for cheap

HHHDMS
3 years 6 months ago

Aj will do better with a small market club. If he goes to the Bucs watch him have a good season. Hes become a headcase in NY , but he still does have great stuff. And he was great in 2009. 

blurnandez
3 years 6 months ago

“Hes become a headcase in NY” 

I’m pretty sure that started in FLA and carried through his career…

3 years 6 months ago

Pit is about to obtain one of the better starters in baseball. Its not enough to turn them around but they r headed in the right direction

TrollinPowell
3 years 6 months ago

Top 50th percentile

3 years 6 months ago

Pit is about to obtain one of the better starters in baseball. Its not enough to turn them around but they r headed in the right direction

levendis
3 years 6 months ago

Burnett for Alvarez, Tabata, and Andrew Mcutchen and 25 mill. Seems like a fair deal, dont you guys think so?

3 years 6 months ago

It’s not bad. I really think Pittsburgh should throw in Taillon and Bell, just to sweeten the deal

3 years 6 months ago

How much kool aid you drinking I wouldnt even trade Mc Cutchen for that headcase

Snoochies8
3 years 6 months ago

whoosh!

sharenski
3 years 6 months ago

 unless he was just way more sarcastic than all of you and you got ‘whooosh!”ed!

Henduck
3 years 6 months ago

If Dave Littlefield were still GM, that could actually happen.

Jason
3 years 6 months ago

The world will end before Mccutchen is shipped for burnett

3 years 6 months ago

whoosh!

domaug
3 years 6 months ago

hmm… it’s close, but i wouldn’t do that.  how about the Pirates throw in Taillon, Cole, and Bell and the Yanks throw in a bag of baseballs autographed by Derek Jeter?  i’d do that in a heartbeat… :)

Todd Smith
3 years 6 months ago

Maybe the Pirates can sign Xavier Nady real quick and flip him over in the deal for Burnett, Banuelos and Betances.  I know how much the Yankees love giving away prospects for Nady.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

ehh I wouldn’t exactly call him one of the best starters in baseball… Hes certainty better than people perceive him to be, but lets be reasonable now.

levendis
3 years 6 months ago

ehh I wouldn’t exactly call him one of the best starters in baseball… Hes certainty better than people perceive him to be, but lets be reasonable now.

3 years 6 months ago

He can eat innings—he may just be someone who isn’t cut out for a big market. Burnett is more Steve Trachsel than anything.

rockfordone
3 years 6 months ago

Why doesn’t Pitt go all in. Corria for Peavy. Make the money even.

3 years 6 months ago

burnett is their new ace. he has the capability of being that dominant too

3 years 6 months ago

He’s been a decent starter. He pitched in a hitter-friendly park in the AL East and had flashes of brilliance, but look where else he pitched – Dolphins Stadium and Rogers Centre. Two very pitcher friendly parks, so that probably helped AJ as much as anything. Not too familiar with PNC, but maybe the change of scenery clears his head.

As for what the Yankees get in return? Meh, maybe a C+ or C guy.

j6takish
3 years 6 months ago

 Rogers is a hitters park, and Sun Life/Whatever/Whatever/Whatever is pretty neutral

j6takish
3 years 6 months ago

 Rogers is a hitters park, and Sun Life/Whatever/Whatever/Whatever is pretty neutral

W. Michael
3 years 6 months ago

So, correct me if I’m wrong; this is primarily a salary dump by the Yankees and we shouldn’t expect anyone substantial in return

???
There’s been no mention of anything the Yankees will get for AJ who is a good pitcher, likely he’s just a guy who couldn’t cut it in NY, lots of them around.

3 years 6 months ago

Looking that way so far. I wouldn’t go getting excited about anybody we get in return unless it’s someone who’s very raw and has a miniscule amount of upside.

jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 I guess the yankees could always add a few prospects if they want an actual return.

3 years 6 months ago

They should salary dump him and sign Oswalt I would have said salary dump earlier and then get CJ Wilson  but its too late for that now

sam_lammert
3 years 6 months ago

i think the pirates know hes a good picture, but they might be worried about how good of a painting he is

3 years 6 months ago

Hahahaha

sam_lammert
3 years 6 months ago

i think the pirates know hes a good picture, but they might be worried about how good of a painting he is

3 years 6 months ago

The pressure of not being in New York, plus moving to the National League, can only help Burnett as I see it.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 6 months ago

This is a good deal for both teams.  The Pirates haven’t been unable to attract any FA pitchers this winter and AJ gives them a pitcher that can give them innings and will probably do well outside of the “spotlight” of NY Baseball (Media, Fans and pressure).  For the Yankees they get a little bit a salary relief and perhaps just as importantly they free up a roster spot.

ericc123
3 years 6 months ago

Who’d they get lol?

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

How do you call something a good deal when nothing is close to completed?

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 6 months ago

Would it make you feel better if I said “This would be a good deal for both teams”?

Just so you know, from my perspective any deal to move AJ Burnett is a “good deal” and since the 2nd bullet point from the bottom of the article in part states and I quote “The Yankees know they can make a Burnett deal with the Pirates…”  I wrote my initial comment from that perspective.

I hope that answers your question.

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

It would only be a good deal for the Yankees if the PIrates pay a good amount. I’d rather the PIrates pay more and get noboody in return than the Yankes pay about 1/3 and get 1 or 2 players in return.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 6 months ago

Obviously we have differing opinions on what would make this a good deal for the Yankees.  And there is nothing wrong with that.

3 years 6 months ago

“The Pirates haven’t been unable” uhh?

Yanks48
3 years 6 months ago

All Yankee fans have the same thought in their mind. “Get this deal done”