Indians, Roberto Hernandez Restructure Contract

4:09pm: Hernandez switched agencies and is now represented by Jorge Brito, a one-time employee of Hernandez's former agency, Proformance, Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.

11:57am: The Indians and Roberto Hernandez (a.k.a. Fausto Carmona) have restructured the right-hander's contract, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (Twitter links). His 2012 salary will now be "far less" than the $7MM he was scheduled to earn, and an option year in his contract has been eliminated.

The contract originally included a $9MM option for 2013 and a $12MM option for 2014. The Indians exercised Hernandez's $7MM option for 2012 last fall, before issues surrounding his age and identity emerged.


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33 Comments on "Indians, Roberto Hernandez Restructure Contract"


Josh Kortleve
3 years 5 months ago

will MLBPA allow this?

Cheeseballs
3 years 5 months ago

I would think the contract would be void anyhow if he signed a name of a person that didn’t exist

FacelessGeneralManager
3 years 5 months ago

Or the real Fausto Carmona is due a bunch of money!!

Kurisu Rg
3 years 5 months ago

 Well guys,  nice knowing you. I’m off to the Dominican to change my nam…. to enjoy the exotic scenery, yes, that’s it.

jwsox
3 years 5 months ago

Just because it’s restructured does not mean he is gettin paid less. If the overall amount changes yeah the mlbpa might have an issue. But the Indians can point to the identity fraud and win in any case. My guess is some of the money gets turned in to deferals

3 years 5 months ago

Did anyone else think “Roberto Hernandez” meant the pitcher who last pitched in 2007 with the Dodgers? (hernaro01)

Ricardo Elorza
3 years 5 months ago

 I did. Not helping in any way is the fact that he pitched with the Indians in 2007.

3 years 5 months ago

That’s why I clicked on the link…

3 years 5 months ago

I know Chris Perez went down but why are they paying so much for a 47 year old who has not closed in a decade and has been retired for 5 years.

johnsilver
3 years 5 months ago

I would LOVE to see the union dispute this one.. It could leade to one of their 1st loses at the table in years.. something they have no chance at winning.

Think

think about it, if nothing else? The one obvious reason above.. Incorrect name, meant to hide the actual name, to commit fraud in the 1st place to get more dollars originally.

Edit:

Hit the wrong key and submited by accident:

to finish:

he hid his age and gave his incorrect name on legal contract to commit fraud originally.

The owners lawyers would love to see the union dispute this one.. hernandez/carmona, whatever is on his own with this mistake of his own doing.

3 years 5 months ago

What I would like to see a team do down the line is to try to void a contract on these grounds.

ObamaDinoKiller
3 years 5 months ago

the guy has had exactly TWO decent years out of 6. i guess the team really has no better options than to keep him around and not completely nullify his contract

Kurisu Rg
3 years 5 months ago

They could’ve either kept him or nullified his contract and then traded for John Lannan or someone similar. So it was either paying him $4 mill (rough guess of what his new salary will be) or paying $ 5 mill to Lannan and giving up a couple of okay prospects. I guess the hassle of having to deal with the MLBPA’s outcry was the deciding factor here.

bedzboy12
3 years 5 months ago

They honestly should VOID his current contract and give him at least a Major League contract but pay hime the league minimus of $440K for all of this mess !

chico65
3 years 5 months ago

Did you get up on the wrong side of the bedz this morning or is your spelling usually this superb?

bedzboy12
3 years 5 months ago

They can do better than him. 

3 years 5 months ago

So how long until everybody doesnt have to say “aka Fausto” anymore?

bedzboy12
3 years 5 months ago

I wonder why after two seasons Mike decided to go with his origional first name, why not from the get go ??

HobokenMetsFan
3 years 5 months ago

There was an article that had him quoted as saying people always messed up the pronunciation all the way back to grade school and he just went with his middle name cause it was easier.

pennypincher
3 years 5 months ago

Maybe there are so many fans that think of the lefty reliever whenever Mike Stanton is mentioned, that masher Mike got annoyed, especially by questions like “I thought you were a LOOGY” 

crashcameron
3 years 5 months ago

there has often been cases of mispronunciation by media/announcers, most often for import players. happened in hockey lots. a guy named Walt Tkaczuk was an early import from then Czechoslovakia and it took him time to be comfortable enough to inform media/announcers/his team that it wasn’t pronounced “tay-chuk” but “ka-chook”

btw
BOZZCOE just gained troller status. he’ll have to operate under another name

Jason_F
3 years 5 months ago

I don’t know how you make it through the day with your head spinning from this all-to-confusing development.

jwsox
3 years 5 months ago

I know that. Which why I said if the OVERALL amount changes not just the 2012 salary. They are paying him far less this season yes but that money is probably still in his contract now just spread out.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 5 months ago

They also eliminated an option year.  Somehow, I don’t think the money was spread out.

Jason_F
3 years 5 months ago

Whew! Good thing you cleared that up. I’m glad people will now be able to understand what I was trying to convey.

crashcameron
3 years 5 months ago

did you purchase anything with MIKE STANTON on it? a childish argument that isn’t logical. maybe someday MIKE jerseys/cards will be more valuable because of that 

3 years 5 months ago

So…the MLB should force him to purchase all his baseball cards at market value right now, cards that will never be produced again and will likely be worth more in the future, as a punishment? 

sportsnut969
3 years 5 months ago

Mike Staton never signed a autograph Mike Staton if you go online you will see his auto on his 1st name is a Gilo then last name.

ellisburks
3 years 5 months ago

He isn’t changing his name. His name is Giancarlo. It is not Meta World Peace.

John McFadin
3 years 5 months ago

 Yea, because the Cleveland Indians financial mistakes have everything to do with “Bron” and his decision to take his talents to South Beach.

pennypincher
3 years 5 months ago

I think the quotation marks should be around Carmona, not keeping.

3 years 5 months ago

 No one is paying attention, so no problem there :)

Max Forstag
3 years 5 months ago

Lets review some of Mark Shapiro’s moves as Tribe GM:

2002: traded Bartolo Colon for Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee.

2002: traded Chuck Finley for Coco Crisp.
2002: traded Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese for Travis Hafner.
2006: traded Eduardo Perez for Asdrubal Cabrera.
2006: traded Ben Broussard for Shin-Soo Choo.
2008: traded Casey Blake for Carlos Santana.

Apart from the fact that Mark Shapiro is no longer the Tribe GM (Antonetti made the Jimenez trade), I’d say Shapiro did a pretty damn good job during his time here. The above trades all involved trading away aging talent for young studs in return. In every one of these trades, the players we got ended up being the cornerstones of our team at one point or another, while the ones we traded away had limited success.

The Sabathia and Lee trades haven’t worked out, but I think it was inevitable CC was going to leave, so better to have gotten something rather than nothing. It would sure be nice to still have Cliff Lee though…