Central Notes: Reds, Votto, Pirates, Indians

A look at items out of the Central divisions..

  • Reds first baseman Joey Votto told Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun that he wanted to become the highest-paid Canadian player in baseball.  Votto’s ten-year, $225MM extension not only made him the top earning Canadian baseball player, but made him the country’s highest-paid athlete.  There was talk about the Blue Jays targeting Votto down the line but the slugger said that it would be difficult to ever settle for a five-year deal as per their policy.
  • There’s been a lot of talk about the Braves‘ low-paying television deal but Bob Cohn of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review points out that the Pirates contract is also undervalued.  The Bucs are in the third year of a ten-year TV deal and will receive $18MM this year, according to industry sources.
  • Even though the Indians are in need of an impact bat, Paul Hoynes of The Plain Dealer isn’t sure that the club should trade Chris Perez to get that done.
  • Drew Stubbs has some level of trade value but the Reds wouldn’t get a whole lot back for him, tweets John Fay of Cincinnati Enquirer.


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10 Comments on "Central Notes: Reds, Votto, Pirates, Indians"


TophersReds
3 years 3 months ago

The Bucs contract undervalued? The Reds are getting $10M a year. Yes it is up in a few years, but $10M isn’t a whole lot compared to other deal right now.

3 years 3 months ago

 This is what happens when teams sign 10 or 20 year deals. A good value in the current year can look undervalued in 15, 10, or even 3 years. It’s the same thing with team sale prices and free agent contracts and anything else in baseball. Revenues and salaries have increased at ridiculous percentages when compared to the general rate of inflation and the stagnant economy.

johnsilver
3 years 3 months ago

I say again…

Guys.. Lets have a topic on teams TV deals here.. It’s worth a topic all to itself…

johnsilver
3 years 3 months ago

 Preemptive strike:

Lets not have any Stubbs to Boston talk.. To play for Boston, there has to be some semblance of plate discipline and he has -0-..

When a guy k’s as much as AGone and David Ortiz combined, yet has less power than Dustin Pedroia? You just ain’t worth much.

explodet
3 years 3 months ago

Stubbs’ career walk rate of 9% is higher than the Red Sox’s starting RF, LF, CF, C, and SS, and only .4% lower than Pedroia’s.
The problem is more that he doesn’t hit for average.

johnsilver
3 years 3 months ago

 “Stubbs has less power than Pedroia? According to who?”

According to XBH over the last 2 seasons (all Stubbs has played) that’s who.

Stubbs XBH 2010: 47
Pedroia:              36  (yes.. Pedy missed 80+ games with a broken foot)

Stubbs 2011 : 40
Pedroia:         61

There is no category, even really SB Stubbs bests pedey at… More than welcome to check baseball reference for yourself, then am sure you already have….

MetsMagic
3 years 3 months ago

Agreed. People are going to freak out about Stubbs because of the strikeouts which is an extremely overrated issue. He has so much speed that the strikeouts are mitigated by the fact that he’ll never hit into a double play and can always take the extra base. A very underrated player that the Reds should keep. 

johnsilver
3 years 3 months ago

Was just posting reasons for Boston to not go out and not try and acquire someone who does not fit their mold of patience and plate discipline and then mentioned 9off handedly) that Pedrioa has more XBH every season that stubbs has played.

Now.. I don’t think you want to go dragging up who is the better player here, not on what has been proven on the field, vs un proven talent. All that has been for Stubbs thus far is strikeouts and not to say he won’t ever be a successful player, but he hasn’t yet ever won a league MVP, GG (2x) AS (3x) SS.. The list goes on of course..

As said.. Made that original post that Boston does not generally go out and get people with poor plate discipline and when the have had them in the past, have worked with them to change it, but if they even go out and get a replacement player for Ells? It would be a patchwork player and not some team’s younger talent where the said team (Cincy here) would expect back some decent prospect in return.

johnsilver
3 years 3 months ago

 ” Those awards you mentioned are meaningless and don’t prove anything.”

This is getting quite funny now…

Now the punch line comes… I guess the only GM out there (or ex GM) would be Jim Hendry that would swap Stubbs for Dustin Pedroia? A top 2 2b in the game?

There is no way you can equate, in any terms whatsoever that Stubbs value is anywhere as close to Pedroia’s.. it just cannot be made to exists.. Period.. Pedey is under contract (quite affordable) until 2015 and is just… Tops at his position.. I am flabbergasted by this entire exchange quite frankly..

Wes Whitenack
3 years 3 months ago

His strikeout rate is Reynolds-like and can hardly draw walks, so his value gets really diminished.